Honestly, I like the philosophy "plan for failure." When your life is on the line, you want backups, and backups for your backups. It's the whole point of wearing armor _and_ carrying trauma gear, if everything goes perfectly, you shouldn't get shot; If you get shot, your armor takes it. But Murphy happens, and even the best armor can fail. Teaching a posture that minimizes exposure, allows multiple _easy_ responses to finding a threat (engage, bail, etc.), maximizes armor coverage of exposed areas, and has built-in fail-safes for the worst-case scenarios, is exactly what is needed.
Jay Corcoran totally agree! I’ve noticed all the fellas that utilize real world, and especially force on force feedback, to actually refine and learn from them, are the most fluid and competent
Lots of people in comments saying dynamic entry still works, but it doesn’t work if there are 6 guys on the other side of the door waiting, plus civilians mixed in. Add lack of intel to the equation and limited penetration is the only option, especially in law enforcement scenarios, more so than MOUT stuff, where intel reports no civilian presence. I think project gecko is doing good work for solving the specific problem. Limited penetration is safer for the clearing team in my opinion than dynamic entry. Dynamic entry and surprise/overwhelm seems to only be good if you have prior intel on enemy positions inside a room or building and have time constraints.
There are other factors as well. Dynamic entries overseas were curtailed when operators were constantly running into booby traps or IEDs. We still use dynamic for certain situations on our team but it’s not always the correct answer. People get too hung up on the “correct way” when there’s usually a different solution for every unique problem.
As a elite sofa team 6, gotta give a praise to this, cuz whether I go on play airsoft, or going to some force on force training, this tips works every time.
In all of my combatives classes I stress the idea and tactic of "feet first" If you have proper foot position and movement then your body will be in the correct position and your hands will be able to do what they need to do from a strong foundation and base. Thanks for the additional info on this topic as it is vital for survival.
The hips to the wall (balls to the wall) sets your feet up so that when you enter the door, you can breach left with a single step, the back leg allowing you to step past the door frame.
Thank you very much, i discover your channel with UF PRO. You're amazing, i'm not a professionnel in any way. But i really your lessons, you've maybe create a vocation. Best regards
It is a litle bit ood by i have experience a lot of what you say playing airsoft cqb herw in Portugal , so because of that and the rest that make sense to me, many congrats, great job I was military guy , but another time another very old diferent, tecniques, :) , again great job man
Not sure if this is intentional, but the footwork very much reminds of the foundational footwork of Pekiti-Tirsia Kali. It's the best footwork system I have come across so far, and works for open hands, edged weapons, impact and firearms. Would love to train with you in the US if you come here.
at 02:57, I've always wondered if the shooter's momentum to the right can be derailed by the other shooter, going to his right, just by counter-active direction; which leads to him going to his left, while the first shooter still shifting to his right. So with all of that being said; would that, in anyway, cause disruption to the shooter's constant shifting to the right?
@@ProjectGecko Hm, good point. I felt like if you were to go the opposite direction of which the opponent isn't shooting, that would cause confusion for the shooter. But good stuff, brother!
I really like your videos because all of them are so informative and professional! Just a quick question, whats your opinion on choosing the right plate carrier as I have ordered a large plate carrier (11X14 or around 28cm X 35CM) mainly for playing paintball games and Im 176cm tall and 71KG. Basically, its frontal carrier can cover up most of my body area (nearly 85-90% I think). Whats your thought on this? Thanks!
May I ask as an airsofter only. I want to get better with tactics. I watch your videos here and ufpro etc. man. What’s best advice for me to train reloading quickly gun manipulation smoothly and shooting from both sides. I have 3 yrs experience of doing it now but I wanna be you guys level bad ass. So any pointers? Drills? Videos I should go back and watch? Thanks I’m advance.
Wow. Makes me wonder how I survived the dozens of live room clearances I did in Iraq with the 'wrong' foot position. I take it all of your teaching is from experience in combat, right? I assume you've seen people die or be seriously wounded from not moving their feet in the prescribed way?
The prudent gunfighter will always be open to learning new things. Any class or training is akin to acquiring tools - some are great and you use them routinely, while others may not work for you and your project. Nowhere in the video did the guy say anything to the effect of "If you don't do this you will die." You sound like a pathetic attention seeker. Congrats, you went to Iraq and didn't die. You got your overseas ribbon, so stop acting like you haven't been recognized for your actions. If you don't agree with what's in the video, then make an actual point; otherwise, stop showing your ass to the world, you're embarrassing. Sincerely, Another combat veteran.
@@Johnny_Cash_Flow My point is that there are soo many I'd these guys around teaching the right and wrong ways to do this stuff with little or no actual experience to back up what they say. They say things like 'I see so many people doing such and such and its wrong' when in the real world it makes exactly fuck all difference. My remark about my experience isn't a boast. I'm not a 'gunfighter' (what ever that is). I'm just a guy with lots of time being shot at on the army. There are hundreds of thousands who have done as much or more. It is about how so many things these guys put so much stock into selling actually doesn't matter. I get it, the guys are trying to advertise their business and teaching new things is how they get feet through the door. Unless you are training constantly to embed the muscle memory, all of this fancy footwork stuff goes out the window, or you are too busy concentrating on where your feet are instead of what's down the hall.
@@PaddyInf btw, there is alot of empirical research and validation behind what we teach or practice. There were few studies about the survivability of this techniques plus our own studies we currently work on. Coming into the room yelling "but for me it worked in xxxx entry" has no weight until you actually experienced resistance during the application of the SOP.
@@PaddyInf nope. Don't try to advertise anything. I'm giving knowledge out here for free. Just like on ufpro channel. I guess it's very wrong to have an opinion now day. Always someone who has to be better....did better...and got to tell that to everyone. Lolz.
nothing wrong with airsoft. T.REX ARMS made a video that perfectly validates using airsoft to translate to firearm skill, which is used with angles like these. (Obviously dry firing, but regardless it translates if you put in the effort)
Maybe try a duck in on your slice of pie then step to straighten up your stance instead of stepping in first and secondly when approaching entry of a door before you tank it you could try stepping with one foot forward and remains in front of your weighted foot with the foot in front facing sideways to your body so if the door is open and your heading towards exposure you have the option of quickly changing direction and you won't expose your foot in the doorway if I think of anything else I'll let you know and thanks for the tips so far
Proper foot movement is huge in CQB, but slicing the Pie can only do so much. Most walls are not rated for bullet stops. So slicing a door way when surprise is compromised is nothing more than a bandaid and a recipe for getting shot. This is gimickey for RUclips videos. And on top of that those multiple steps are moving your reticle for a critical shot. This video is airsoft gamer junk
First, no one here at any point advised working around a threshold when the surprise is compromised. next, if id follows your logic, if someone was in a position to shot me prior to entry, he would shot me during the entry - the difference - in slice you could bail, work from the depth, while in dynamic...well, you run in with nothing but plate. read it again. next, "moving your reticle" - seriously using a reticle at 3m during a slice? who advised that? how you could even ID at that point? anyway acute stress response will prevent the initial use of sights, and point shooting will be the primary. and as to getting shot.... i have 3 years worth of FOF documentation with this technique across swat, sof and regular. this data is composed of over 500 runs against nonscripted threat, with data segments that describe hit locations, lethality, etc, in addition to more empirical research which reinforce our material and is publicly available.
Most walls do not stop bullets so stack right against it then put your whole body in the doorway, hooah? Don't fight from the threshold when you can walk into a muzzle. LEARN TO LOVE door ambushes.
@@GreysUniverse you rest your case? More like your case got laid to rest. Do you have any idea how bad it is in Israel? It's literally modern day Sparta.
@@tjhaze204 I'm guessing because of 'reservist' comment. Despite Eli having an Israeli SOF background, he wants to change the goalposts. Dick Brownie is a real sweet name for him though. What a dick.
@@tjhaze204 not enough people understand that, sad. I was a standard soldier, in intelligence gathering force on enemy lines (for obvious resons i just want to make it clear - I dont know nothing and cant remember my service or any info what so ever ) .. kinda "badass" thing to be in, but nothing compared to units like this guy came from. The knowledge and experience he got over the years is way too much to even explain in a comment. He probanly been through shit, much shit.
No, gunfathermilsim attended High Threat Systems LLC (88 Tactical) CQB course. They teach limited penetration, too. Eli, Trevor, Aaron and Devin all know each other.
Honestly, I like the philosophy "plan for failure."
When your life is on the line, you want backups, and backups for your backups. It's the whole point of wearing armor _and_ carrying trauma gear, if everything goes perfectly, you shouldn't get shot; If you get shot, your armor takes it. But Murphy happens, and even the best armor can fail. Teaching a posture that minimizes exposure, allows multiple _easy_ responses to finding a threat (engage, bail, etc.), maximizes armor coverage of exposed areas, and has built-in fail-safes for the worst-case scenarios, is exactly what is needed.
Took the words right out my mouth.
this is the best and only method because it was born of the real world experience, and those are the lessons we should be working on.
Jay Corcoran totally agree! I’ve noticed all the fellas that utilize real world, and especially force on force feedback, to actually refine and learn from them, are the most fluid and competent
This is the best and only method because it’s NOT used by the premier Hostage Rescue & assault forces in the world lol.
Ian0311 yup
@@Ian0311 what other way is better than what he shows? Left foot forward or feet isoscoles? How do the best do it?
@@ryean1_aus Using terms from his new vid, nice. I'm subscribed to UF PRO too.
Thanks, Eli, now my grandmother won't stand a chance when I'm clearing rooms with my Nerf gun!
Be careful with head peeking. She will get a heart attack
I hope your grandma isnt a ranger. She will not like you standing I the fatal funnel!
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Nice
@@danieltenoriolucero4965 wat? Stfu
Lots of people in comments saying dynamic entry still works, but it doesn’t work if there are 6 guys on the other side of the door waiting, plus civilians mixed in. Add lack of intel to the equation and limited penetration is the only option, especially in law enforcement scenarios, more so than MOUT stuff, where intel reports no civilian presence. I think project gecko is doing good work for solving the specific problem. Limited penetration is safer for the clearing team in my opinion than dynamic entry. Dynamic entry and surprise/overwhelm seems to only be good if you have prior intel on enemy positions inside a room or building and have time constraints.
Agree
+1
There are other factors as well. Dynamic entries overseas were curtailed when operators were constantly running into booby traps or IEDs. We still use dynamic for certain situations on our team but it’s not always the correct answer. People get too hung up on the “correct way” when there’s usually a different solution for every unique problem.
I agree. If there's a possible civilian presence a water impulse breach/dynamic entry would be a very dangerous move.
This is critical for someone who draws comics and values biomechanics.
As a elite sofa team 6, gotta give a praise to this, cuz whether I go on play airsoft, or going to some force on force training, this tips works every time.
In all of my combatives classes I stress the idea and tactic of "feet first" If you have proper foot position and movement then your body will be in the correct position and your hands will be able to do what they need to do from a strong foundation and base. Thanks for the additional info on this topic as it is vital for survival.
Best footwork explanation I’ve ever seen! Thank you so much Eli ❤
This helped me a lot, I'll be referring back to this for practice. Thank you as always for what you do and putting it out there for free
Eli deserves way more subs and likes! Come on guys SHARE this content!!
The hips to the wall (balls to the wall) sets your feet up so that when you enter the door, you can breach left with a single step, the back leg allowing you to step past the door frame.
More videos like this one please. The details are what matters.
Really important info that very few guys talk about. Thanks!
Thank you very much, i discover your channel with UF PRO. You're amazing, i'm not a professionnel in any way. But i really your lessons, you've maybe create a vocation. Best regards
Nice video, all my questions was answered.
You're the best man. I totally agree with your methods
This is incredible training! Tiny details make huge differences!
What a great explanation! Thanks for sharing this!
Im one of those long leg dudes 🤣 but I was scenario 3 with your opening statement
Thanks Eli great video
It is a litle bit ood by i have experience a lot of what you say playing airsoft cqb herw in Portugal , so because of that and the rest that make sense to me, many congrats, great job
I was military guy , but another time another very old diferent, tecniques, :) , again great job man
Teaching this to my sons! Your training is EXCELLENT! When are you coming to the USA to teach?
Great analogy on the airbag talk. Makes sense.
Thanks for the video. 42 people dislike good footwork
The propositioning is correct not just for the apex but if he needed to flinch
אלי יש לך במקרה סרטוני הסברה בעברית גם? אשמח לעזרה
Remember..
Whatever you do, do with style.
Not sure if this is intentional, but the footwork very much reminds of the foundational footwork of Pekiti-Tirsia Kali. It's the best footwork system I have come across so far, and works for open hands, edged weapons, impact and firearms. Would love to train with you in the US if you come here.
at 02:57, I've always wondered if the shooter's momentum to the right can be derailed by the other shooter, going to his right, just by counter-active direction; which leads to him going to his left, while the first shooter still shifting to his right. So with all of that being said; would that, in anyway, cause disruption to the shooter's constant shifting to the right?
Its not such a big problem but it should.be conditioned. Its called extracting angles. Slicing in reverse.
@@ProjectGecko Hm, good point. I felt like if you were to go the opposite direction of which the opponent isn't shooting, that would cause confusion for the shooter. But good stuff, brother!
That was instructive !
I really like your videos because all of them are so informative and professional! Just a quick question, whats your opinion on choosing the right plate carrier as I have ordered a large plate carrier (11X14 or around 28cm X 35CM) mainly for playing paintball games and Im 176cm tall and 71KG. Basically, its frontal carrier can cover up most of my body area (nearly 85-90% I think). Whats your thought on this? Thanks!
Obrigado !
How do we get in on your training?
May I ask as an airsofter only. I want to get better with tactics. I watch your videos here and ufpro etc. man. What’s best advice for me to train reloading quickly gun manipulation smoothly and shooting from both sides. I have 3 yrs experience of doing it now but I wanna be you guys level bad ass. So any pointers? Drills? Videos I should go back and watch? Thanks I’m advance.
Great info thanks!
Beautiful
Surprisingly, these technique works well with Wing Chun and Karate.
VERY GOOD VIDEO...... EXCELLENT....... 100% GOOD TO KNOW.....
been lurking into your vids. but still this footwork makes me feel a goofy stance even in range.
are there courses for those who are interested in learning?
What’s the plate carrier?
wait you are the same guy from UF pro
I thought the same xd
@@maedhros0111 he has the same patch and chest rig so I would assume so
Yes, Eli.
I just sprint and hold B to slide entry
I really need to work on my foot work 😞
Good technique
Who makes those pants with the sewn kneepads?
UF Pro
the guy from uf pro badass beast
Sub títulos in espanish ?
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EXCELLENT!🇮🇱🙏✌
i bait my prosthetic legs
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Wow. Makes me wonder how I survived the dozens of live room clearances I did in Iraq with the 'wrong' foot position.
I take it all of your teaching is from experience in combat, right? I assume you've seen people die or be seriously wounded from not moving their feet in the prescribed way?
The prudent gunfighter will always be open to learning new things. Any class or training is akin to acquiring tools - some are great and you use them routinely, while others may not work for you and your project.
Nowhere in the video did the guy say anything to the effect of "If you don't do this you will die." You sound like a pathetic attention seeker. Congrats, you went to Iraq and didn't die. You got your overseas ribbon, so stop acting like you haven't been recognized for your actions. If you don't agree with what's in the video, then make an actual point; otherwise, stop showing your ass to the world, you're embarrassing.
Sincerely,
Another combat veteran.
@@Johnny_Cash_Flow My point is that there are soo many I'd these guys around teaching the right and wrong ways to do this stuff with little or no actual experience to back up what they say. They say things like 'I see so many people doing such and such and its wrong' when in the real world it makes exactly fuck all difference. My remark about my experience isn't a boast. I'm not a 'gunfighter' (what ever that is). I'm just a guy with lots of time being shot at on the army. There are hundreds of thousands who have done as much or more. It is about how so many things these guys put so much stock into selling actually doesn't matter.
I get it, the guys are trying to advertise their business and teaching new things is how they get feet through the door. Unless you are training constantly to embed the muscle memory, all of this fancy footwork stuff goes out the window, or you are too busy concentrating on where your feet are instead of what's down the hall.
@@PaddyInf no need to go emotional. Are you aware that by footwork, we are referring to the LP methodology? Most western armies go dynamic or IEs.
@@PaddyInf btw, there is alot of empirical research and validation behind what we teach or practice. There were few studies about the survivability of this techniques plus our own studies we currently work on. Coming into the room yelling "but for me it worked in xxxx entry" has no weight until you actually experienced resistance during the application of the SOP.
@@PaddyInf nope. Don't try to advertise anything. I'm giving knowledge out here for free. Just like on ufpro channel. I guess it's very wrong to have an opinion now day. Always someone who has to be better....did better...and got to tell that to everyone. Lolz.
Airsoft enthusiasts = 90 % of the comment section...
nothing wrong with airsoft. T.REX ARMS made a video that perfectly validates using airsoft to translate to firearm skill, which is used with angles like these. (Obviously dry firing, but regardless it translates if you put in the effort)
Use mics
I want Eli 🥰
Maybe try a duck in on your slice of pie then step to straighten up your stance instead of stepping in first and secondly when approaching entry of a door before you tank it you could try stepping with one foot forward and remains in front of your weighted foot with the foot in front facing sideways to your body so if the door is open and your heading towards exposure you have the option of quickly changing direction and you won't expose your foot in the doorway if I think of anything else I'll let you know and thanks for the tips so far
is he spanish?
Eli is SOF, of the Israeli Defence Force.
lol who did this caption 😂
Here's a better idea of room clearing it's so simple just throw a granada in into the room or building
J Kroll lmfao cuz not all situations call for a fuckin grenade dipshit lmao
movie stuff lol
@@E7VZ
castellano
Thought this guy was john lovell
Today's lesson: how to walk
Proper foot movement is huge in CQB, but slicing the Pie can only do so much. Most walls are not rated for bullet stops. So slicing a door way when surprise is compromised is nothing more than a bandaid and a recipe for getting shot. This is gimickey for RUclips videos. And on top of that those multiple steps are moving your reticle for a critical shot. This video is airsoft gamer junk
First, no one here at any point advised working around a threshold when the surprise is compromised. next, if id follows your logic, if someone was in a position to shot me prior to entry, he would shot me during the entry - the difference - in slice you could bail, work from the depth, while in dynamic...well, you run in with nothing but plate. read it again. next, "moving your reticle" - seriously using a reticle at 3m during a slice? who advised that? how you could even ID at that point? anyway acute stress response will prevent the initial use of sights, and point shooting will be the primary. and as to getting shot.... i have 3 years worth of FOF documentation with this technique across swat, sof and regular. this data is composed of over 500 runs against nonscripted threat, with data segments that describe hit locations, lethality, etc, in addition to more empirical research which reinforce our material and is publicly available.
Most walls do not stop bullets so stack right against it then put your whole body in the doorway, hooah? Don't fight from the threshold when you can walk into a muzzle. LEARN TO LOVE door ambushes.
@@ProjectGecko where can one find this information?
@@CallofWar5 we will release a study soon.
Wow, everyone’s an operator these days 🙄 Jesus!
That guy served nine years in the Israeli Defense Forces and is still an active reservist.
Haramasch Abrasir I rest my case
@@GreysUniverse you rest your case? More like your case got laid to rest. Do you have any idea how bad it is in Israel? It's literally modern day Sparta.
@@tjhaze204 I'm guessing because of 'reservist' comment. Despite Eli having an Israeli SOF background, he wants to change the goalposts. Dick Brownie is a real sweet name for him though. What a dick.
@@tjhaze204 not enough people understand that, sad.
I was a standard soldier, in intelligence gathering force on enemy lines (for obvious resons i just want to make it clear - I dont know nothing and cant remember my service or any info what so ever ) .. kinda "badass" thing to be in, but nothing compared to units like this guy came from. The knowledge and experience he got over the years is way too much to even explain in a comment. He probanly been through shit, much shit.
Your just ripping off gunfathermilsim video. Not nice to steal.
No, gunfathermilsim attended High Threat Systems LLC (88 Tactical) CQB course. They teach limited penetration, too. Eli, Trevor, Aaron and Devin all know each other.
lmao.
So actually gunfathermilsim ripped off Trevor. HAHA. BUT OK BUDDY.