I think that for practical, real and autonomy purposes, it is much better and cheaper to buy the Ioniq 5 RWD since the AWD front motor is only used in acceleration and regen when I-Pedal is selected. I suppose it will make sense to invest in an AWD in very severe conditions, such as countries or areas of countries where it rains heavily and for a long time, with freezing temperatures and persistent snow.
Ya I agree, the rear motor provides plenty of power (enough for most people). It's definitely cheaper and in most climates it does the job. For me, the AWD made sense with my climate like you said (snow in the winter, lots of hills where I live). Plus I'm in that group of people that is addicted to more power haha. The Ioniq 5 blends being a great practical car with surprising performance.
It makes a big difference on how hard you mash the pedal whether the front motor kicks in. From a standing stop, it always kicks in if you are coast under 15 mph as long you are still moving and you start to speed up the front motor will not kick in
Yup that's how normal mode behaves. Eco mode will disengage front motor even if you mash the pedal above 15mph. Sport mode will keep front motor on even if you are gentle above 15mph.
Yes! I agree, so i've been using the Level 3 and then the left paddle for stopping. it's been a fun game either way to see if i can brake enough to come to a stop before i hit the car in front of me... without actual brake help haha
Ya for some reason it's just a very satisfying feeling when you time it perfectly only using the paddles and bring the car to a complete stop right where you wanted. 2 months in and I'm still braking like this pretty frequently, hasn't gotten old hah.
Great video. Any idea if both motors are used for regen braking? I wonder if AWD can slow the car more using regen or recapture more energy if you're going down a long grade?
Thanks! Darn I should have addressed the regen braking with AWD as that's come up a few times now since the video went up. 100% in ipedal regen you get both motors doing regen. The rest depends on drive mode and regen level you are using. There are some rules in place just like when accelerating. Rule of thumb is if you want to capture maximum energy then you want to be in ipedal regen which will ensure that both motors are engaged and using regen.
Good info. The only question I have is at highway speed, eco mode, no ipedal (rwd) can it get similar range to RWD only models? I was surprised by the size of the range difference between RWD and AWD models.
Thanks Kurt that's my biggest question now too. I feel like it should be pretty close range wise as the only difference at this point under those driving conditions is that the AWD model is carrying about 200 extra pounds. Essentially an extra passenger. I'd love to test that out with another RWD owner but pretty sure any Ioniq 5 owner in my area would be AWD.
@@CarsJubileeI think you’d be always spinning the axel shafts so that might use some energy. I don’t know how they disengage the front motor. If it just spins without being powered that could cause some losses. If you’ve got some time let us know what your highway range is in RWD mode!
It definitely feels like there is some kind of disconnect as when I switch from eco to normal or even sport there's a little delay before I see power sent up front. But like you said I'm not sure how much power is still in use. It varies so much with changes in elevation, outside temp, avg speed etc. But once we get steady warm temps maybe that will give me a better idea of range or at least avg m/kwh for highway stretches.
I am sure the range difference is actually nearly non existent. Yes the AWD has some additional weight based on the motor, but I think that the numbers were actually never considering that the Ioniq will detach the front motor dynamically. I guess the range tests always consider the use of all available motors
I would argue not to use the i-Pedal mode. Compared to level 3 it is only the last meters to stop that differs. In so low speeds the regen is not very strong anyway (the ampunt of power that goes back to the battery) and it is a good idea to use the friction brakes daily to avoid rust and so forth.
It's nice that we have the choice to use what we want. I still like using it to come to a stop over the friction brakes but that's just personal preference. Just like some people don't care too much about maximizing efficiency and prefer the simple one pedal driving. Putting the Regen into level 0 will result in the car automatically doing some kind of cleaning process of the friction brakes (possibly just very light braking). It's somewhere in the manual, I forget exactly what it says.
Thanks for the video. I've been enjoying i-pedal and will now miss using it. Question: what's the point of i-pedal in AWD? After watching your video it seems like there is no use for it.
You're welcome! Please still use i-pedal whenever you want haha it's your car, you paid for it so drive it however you want! Just thought it was important that people understood how i-pedal and the awd system were working together. To answer your question, I still use i-pedal in stop and go traffic where I'm staying below 15 mph. At that speed even if I'm not in i-pedal mode the car is still sending power to front and rear because that's the way they set up the system. So stop and go traffic would be scenario #1 where personally I would use it. Reason #2 is that i-pedal can bring the car to a complete stop without any brake pedal input. If you look at my newest video about the 1 feature that no other competitor has (part 2 coming soon that might help you understand it better), i-pedal plus the other regen levels allow me to execute smooth foot-less braking. Reason #3 is some people want that simple driving experience of not really needing the brake pedal anymore. and they don't mind the efficiency loss. I'm definitely guilty of that on occasion where I'm on a work call while driving and I don't have the focus to deal with the paddles. I end up putting it into ipedal sometimes because that removes the need of switching between the 2 different pedals if braking is needed. At the end of the day, the engineers/designers did a great job of creating a flexible system where we can choose how we want to drive/brake. So if you want to maximize efficiency you can do that or if you want the most simple driving experience you can do that too. Hope that helps!
@@CarsJubileeI'm assuming that while you may lose some efficiency with i-pedal, you'll save wear on your brakes. I-pedal is the closest I've seen to the Model 3 I traded for an Ioniq 5 Limited last Saturday.
Like your content! Hoping you or someone else can help me out with a question. I own a I5 limited. When powered down, the door lock buttons located on the driver side and passenger side doors do not work (works while vehicle is powered).Only the unlock button functions. I can't figure out why. Have you had any experience with this? Or is this unique to my ioniq 5? Thanks!
Thanks Rick! I have full lock unlock capability when the car is off. I've not checked to see if maybe that's an option in the settings so I'd start there to make sure it's not an option that can be toggled on/off. That's a weird one so if you can't find a setting for it I'd try the dealer next. Does it still work with the remote?
@@CarsJubilee It works with the remote, and I can lock it with the app. The salesman thought it was the car sensing the key inside. But I checked that and it still wouldn't work with the key removed far away
@@rickv4701 I took a quick look in the car settings and can't find anything that might be doing what your seeing. Definitely seems like a glitch, hopefully the local dealer can diagnose. Let me know if they are able to figure it out, very curious what's going on!
Hey! Talked to the dealership and they said it is as designed. Just to clarify with you. When your IT is off in your door is open. You can press the lock button in the car will lock?
I can lock and unlock at any time except for when driver door is open (didn't test with other doors). When driver door is open I can unlock but cannot lock.
Unfortunately I don't, but I can make an educated guess. Since I switch to I-Pedal eventually during most of my braking, I technically am engaging both motors for regen. But in reality, you use the braking as needed and whether that means using the different regen levels where appropriate or using I-Pedal, I imagine it would end up about the same between RWD and AWD if the driver understands the braking system. Theoretically, person in the RWD model would know to just start braking earlier since their I-Pedal regen won't slow the car as quickly whereas the person in the AWD model would know to start their braking later since their I-Pedal regen will slow the car much quicker thanks to both motors in recovery. So in that scenario one brakes earlier and the other brakes later, I imagine it would even out to be pretty close. Maybe you are driving down a mountain, in that case maybe the RWD I-Pedal isn't enough to slow the car down to a reasonable driving speed and you have to use friction brakes. In that scenario the AWD model would definitely recover more energy but that's a more extreme example. I imagine in most scenarios the RWD model I-Pedal should be enough.
Hey Doug, it's definitely personal preference but I don't like the auto setting for my mostly city driving so I've done no testing with it. I like to coast whenever possible and in auto in the city I believe it's sensing the cars in front and never letting me coast like I can manually in level 0. Even if I am maintaining a safe distance and the car ahead is actually going the same speed or faster, it just won't quite go to level 0. My guess is that it's not activating both motors except for when you are in max regen in auto mode where you hold down the left paddle.
@@CarsJubilee Thank you for the great videos and reply. I'm trying to get as much good info I can for my customers and these types of videos help. While I get to do some of my own "testing" on the vehicles at some point it just starts to look like I'm joyriding. Which also isn't wrong.
No problem at all and glad you are doing your own research to help customers out! And I would totally be trying to joyride as frequently as possible in your shoes =)
Yes agreed! There is the 200 pound penalty the AWD model is carrying around but if that's the only penalty then the range drop should be minimal in those driving conditions. Same as carrying a passenger vs no passenger essentially.
My personal guess ist that the difference in range between the AWD is actually based on the testing process. The official tests are probably estimating the use of both motors when in real world usage, the Ioniq will actually detach the front motor dynamically. I don’t think the motor weight has such an impact
Do you know or does anyone know how far away you can be from your car to use the locate vehicle on blue link? I tried using it and it did some weird stuff love the videos
Thanks! Hmm that's a great question, I just tried and it worked for me but I'm only about 25 ft away from the car. I'll test when I'm across the country in a few weeks. Theoretically it should work from anywhere since Bluelink is using Hyundai's server connection and not Bluetooth. I do feel bluelink is a bit glitchy so maybe it needs a restart?
So, I drive usually in the city (with medium traffic) and sometimes on the highway. According to this, Which is the best setting I should use for maximum range?
I can't say for sure which regen level is THE best as I haven't spent enough time playing around with all of them. But if you were planning to just pick one level and stick with it, maybe level 3? It's okay to use ipedal, and you should when you need max regen braking. Even accelerating 0-15 mph is fine with ipedal since our AWD system forces power front and back. It's only above 15mph where it matters. I'll have to do more testing to see which is the most efficient if I were sticking to one level but my guess is level 3.
@@CarsJubilee keep us posted about that high pitch sound. I haven't noticed it on mine yet but my hearing at high frequencies isn't that great. But my wife and kids don't hear anything. I'm curious to know what this complaint is and what the resolution is to it. Also I think you should do a video that demonstrates the cool sounds this car makes at 18mph and below. Apparently the feds mandated EVs after 2018 make some kind of noise at low speeds. This car sounds so cool at low speeds. At first I thought it was the drive train but then I realized they artificially produce it. I wonder if it's some sort of external weather proof speaker under the hood or what.
@@LichaelMewis will do! Yes hah I was actually thinking about a 'sounds from the ioniq5' video since most prospective buyers probably will not know what they are like going into it. I actually kind of wish they had customizable acceleration sounds, I think it would have been a fun and quirky thing that matches this car's vibe though I'm sure many people prefer it without any extra fake noise.
@@CarsJubilee I'm sure they can easily release an update for that feature. But I find the sound that they put in it at low speeds sounds extremely cool but calming at the same time. Same thing with the reverse sound.
Does you car have the whining noise from the motors? I can sort of hear it. There have been quite a few complaints about that noise on the AWD models because some people have that noise and others don’t.
I haven't heard anything abnormal to my ears so hopefully there's no whining noise. All I hear is the synthetic sound that's being projected at lower speeds plus what I thought was typical electric motor noise similar to what I've heard in another AWD model I test drove and a model 3 that I drove for a week, just motor whirring sounds.
No problem! I've heard some people mention the regen level braking is too aggressive and causes slides in icy conditions. I haven't had the chance to drive in snow yet, probably not till next winter. Yes the AWD model does have regen from all 4 wheels if I use I-pedal regen mode in ECO. It's also available in the other modes as long as you are not in level 0 regen.
What makes you say it doesn't hurt efficiency? It's true that cruise control disables it. But if you drive around all the time with ipedal, that's forcing the car to use 2 motors constantly vs when it can often run using just one. Most owners, myself included have seen efficiency increases when we stop using ipedal at speeds higher than 15mph. Another way to think of it is AWD vs RWD. Why does the RWD have a higher epa rating? Because it's running one motor vs two. You get better efficiency running just one motor.
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I think that for practical, real and autonomy purposes, it is much better and cheaper to buy the Ioniq 5 RWD since the AWD front motor is only used in acceleration and regen when I-Pedal is selected. I suppose it will make sense to invest in an AWD in very severe conditions, such as countries or areas of countries where it rains heavily and for a long time, with freezing temperatures and persistent snow.
Ya I agree, the rear motor provides plenty of power (enough for most people). It's definitely cheaper and in most climates it does the job.
For me, the AWD made sense with my climate like you said (snow in the winter, lots of hills where I live). Plus I'm in that group of people that is addicted to more power haha. The Ioniq 5 blends being a great practical car with surprising performance.
It makes a big difference on how hard you mash the pedal whether the front motor kicks in. From a standing stop, it always kicks in if you are coast under 15 mph as long you are still moving and you start to speed up the front motor will not kick in
Yup that's how normal mode behaves.
Eco mode will disengage front motor even if you mash the pedal above 15mph.
Sport mode will keep front motor on even if you are gentle above 15mph.
Yes! I agree, so i've been using the Level 3 and then the left paddle for stopping. it's been a fun game either way to see if i can brake enough to come to a stop before i hit the car in front of me... without actual brake help haha
Ya for some reason it's just a very satisfying feeling when you time it perfectly only using the paddles and bring the car to a complete stop right where you wanted. 2 months in and I'm still braking like this pretty frequently, hasn't gotten old hah.
Great video. Any idea if both motors are used for regen braking? I wonder if AWD can slow the car more using regen or recapture more energy if you're going down a long grade?
Thanks! Darn I should have addressed the regen braking with AWD as that's come up a few times now since the video went up.
100% in ipedal regen you get both motors doing regen. The rest depends on drive mode and regen level you are using. There are some rules in place just like when accelerating.
Rule of thumb is if you want to capture maximum energy then you want to be in ipedal regen which will ensure that both motors are engaged and using regen.
Good info. The only question I have is at highway speed, eco mode, no ipedal (rwd) can it get similar range to RWD only models? I was surprised by the size of the range difference between RWD and AWD models.
Thanks Kurt that's my biggest question now too. I feel like it should be pretty close range wise as the only difference at this point under those driving conditions is that the AWD model is carrying about 200 extra pounds. Essentially an extra passenger.
I'd love to test that out with another RWD owner but pretty sure any Ioniq 5 owner in my area would be AWD.
@@CarsJubileeI think you’d be always spinning the axel shafts so that might use some energy. I don’t know how they disengage the front motor. If it just spins without being powered that could cause some losses. If you’ve got some time let us know what your highway range is in RWD mode!
It definitely feels like there is some kind of disconnect as when I switch from eco to normal or even sport there's a little delay before I see power sent up front. But like you said I'm not sure how much power is still in use.
It varies so much with changes in elevation, outside temp, avg speed etc. But once we get steady warm temps maybe that will give me a better idea of range or at least avg m/kwh for highway stretches.
I am sure the range difference is actually nearly non existent. Yes the AWD has some additional weight based on the motor, but I think that the numbers were actually never considering that the Ioniq will detach the front motor dynamically. I guess the range tests always consider the use of all available motors
@@kmschwem they physically detach the e front motor so no usage of energy when not in use :)
I would argue not to use the i-Pedal mode. Compared to level 3 it is only the last meters to stop that differs. In so low speeds the regen is not very strong anyway (the ampunt of power that goes back to the battery) and it is a good idea to use the friction brakes daily to avoid rust and so forth.
It's nice that we have the choice to use what we want. I still like using it to come to a stop over the friction brakes but that's just personal preference. Just like some people don't care too much about maximizing efficiency and prefer the simple one pedal driving.
Putting the Regen into level 0 will result in the car automatically doing some kind of cleaning process of the friction brakes (possibly just very light braking). It's somewhere in the manual, I forget exactly what it says.
Thanks for the video. I've been enjoying i-pedal and will now miss using it. Question: what's the point of i-pedal in AWD? After watching your video it seems like there is no use for it.
You're welcome! Please still use i-pedal whenever you want haha it's your car, you paid for it so drive it however you want!
Just thought it was important that people understood how i-pedal and the awd system were working together.
To answer your question, I still use i-pedal in stop and go traffic where I'm staying below 15 mph. At that speed even if I'm not in i-pedal mode the car is still sending power to front and rear because that's the way they set up the system. So stop and go traffic would be scenario #1 where personally I would use it. Reason #2 is that i-pedal can bring the car to a complete stop without any brake pedal input. If you look at my newest video about the 1 feature that no other competitor has (part 2 coming soon that might help you understand it better), i-pedal plus the other regen levels allow me to execute smooth foot-less braking. Reason #3 is some people want that simple driving experience of not really needing the brake pedal anymore. and they don't mind the efficiency loss. I'm definitely guilty of that on occasion where I'm on a work call while driving and I don't have the focus to deal with the paddles. I end up putting it into ipedal sometimes because that removes the need of switching between the 2 different pedals if braking is needed.
At the end of the day, the engineers/designers did a great job of creating a flexible system where we can choose how we want to drive/brake. So if you want to maximize efficiency you can do that or if you want the most simple driving experience you can do that too. Hope that helps!
@@CarsJubilee Thank you for the thoughtful reply. :)
@@kayoung604 you're welcome!
@@CarsJubileeI'm assuming that while you may lose some efficiency with i-pedal, you'll save wear on your brakes. I-pedal is the closest I've seen to the Model 3 I traded for an Ioniq 5 Limited last Saturday.
OBD2 dongle will show front motor RPM and rear motor RPM, probably you should see regen on both axles.
Ya I'd be curious if the OBD2 reading shows the same as what I'm seeing on the car's driving force distribution page, I would hope so =)
@@CarsJubilee OBD2 dongle will show much more :) ruclips.net/video/nxIzXf1PDy4/видео.html
Like your content! Hoping you or someone else can help me out with a question. I own a I5 limited. When powered down, the door lock buttons located on the driver side and passenger side doors do not work (works while vehicle is powered).Only the unlock button functions. I can't figure out why. Have you had any experience with this? Or is this unique to my ioniq 5? Thanks!
Thanks Rick!
I have full lock unlock capability when the car is off. I've not checked to see if maybe that's an option in the settings so I'd start there to make sure it's not an option that can be toggled on/off.
That's a weird one so if you can't find a setting for it I'd try the dealer next. Does it still work with the remote?
@@CarsJubilee It works with the remote, and I can lock it with the app. The salesman thought it was the car sensing the key inside. But I checked that and it still wouldn't work with the key removed far away
@@rickv4701 I took a quick look in the car settings and can't find anything that might be doing what your seeing. Definitely seems like a glitch, hopefully the local dealer can diagnose. Let me know if they are able to figure it out, very curious what's going on!
Hey! Talked to the dealership and they said it is as designed. Just to clarify with you. When your IT is off in your door is open. You can press the lock button in the car will lock?
I can lock and unlock at any time except for when driver door is open (didn't test with other doors). When driver door is open I can unlock but cannot lock.
Wait so if i put the awd in eco modo on motorway driving it should get the same range as the rwd version ?
No because the front motor adds weight so the car is heavier than the rear wheel drive model
Do you have any information on regenerative braking recovery level between rwd /awd ?
Unfortunately I don't, but I can make an educated guess. Since I switch to I-Pedal eventually during most of my braking, I technically am engaging both motors for regen. But in reality, you use the braking as needed and whether that means using the different regen levels where appropriate or using I-Pedal, I imagine it would end up about the same between RWD and AWD if the driver understands the braking system.
Theoretically, person in the RWD model would know to just start braking earlier since their I-Pedal regen won't slow the car as quickly whereas the person in the AWD model would know to start their braking later since their I-Pedal regen will slow the car much quicker thanks to both motors in recovery. So in that scenario one brakes earlier and the other brakes later, I imagine it would even out to be pretty close.
Maybe you are driving down a mountain, in that case maybe the RWD I-Pedal isn't enough to slow the car down to a reasonable driving speed and you have to use friction brakes. In that scenario the AWD model would definitely recover more energy but that's a more extreme example. I imagine in most scenarios the RWD model I-Pedal should be enough.
Have you done any testing with the "Auto" regen setting?
I wonder if it has any effect.
Hey Doug, it's definitely personal preference but I don't like the auto setting for my mostly city driving so I've done no testing with it. I like to coast whenever possible and in auto in the city I believe it's sensing the cars in front and never letting me coast like I can manually in level 0. Even if I am maintaining a safe distance and the car ahead is actually going the same speed or faster, it just won't quite go to level 0.
My guess is that it's not activating both motors except for when you are in max regen in auto mode where you hold down the left paddle.
@@CarsJubilee Thank you for the great videos and reply.
I'm trying to get as much good info I can for my customers and these types of videos help.
While I get to do some of my own "testing" on the vehicles at some point it just starts to look like I'm joyriding. Which also isn't wrong.
No problem at all and glad you are doing your own research to help customers out! And I would totally be trying to joyride as frequently as possible in your shoes =)
This observation may help reduce the drop in range between the RWD and AWD when cruising on the highway at 70 mph. Needs to be tested.
Yes agreed! There is the 200 pound penalty the AWD model is carrying around but if that's the only penalty then the range drop should be minimal in those driving conditions. Same as carrying a passenger vs no passenger essentially.
My personal guess ist that the difference in range between the AWD is actually based on the testing process. The official tests are probably estimating the use of both motors when in real world usage, the Ioniq will actually detach the front motor dynamically. I don’t think the motor weight has such an impact
Would love to see some real testing done with this info!
Do you know or does anyone know how far away you can be from your car to use the locate vehicle on blue link? I tried using it and it did some weird stuff love the videos
Thanks! Hmm that's a great question, I just tried and it worked for me but I'm only about 25 ft away from the car. I'll test when I'm across the country in a few weeks. Theoretically it should work from anywhere since Bluelink is using Hyundai's server connection and not Bluetooth. I do feel bluelink is a bit glitchy so maybe it needs a restart?
So, I drive usually in the city (with medium traffic) and sometimes on the highway.
According to this, Which is the best setting I should use for maximum range?
I can't say for sure which regen level is THE best as I haven't spent enough time playing around with all of them. But if you were planning to just pick one level and stick with it, maybe level 3?
It's okay to use ipedal, and you should when you need max regen braking. Even accelerating 0-15 mph is fine with ipedal since our AWD system forces power front and back. It's only above 15mph where it matters.
I'll have to do more testing to see which is the most efficient if I were sticking to one level but my guess is level 3.
No wonder why i-pedal is removed as default when you restart the car!
I love i-pedal but I'm glad to know not to use it when trying to save electrons.
My thought exactly, perhaps they did know better after all!
@@CarsJubilee keep us posted about that high pitch sound. I haven't noticed it on mine yet but my hearing at high frequencies isn't that great. But my wife and kids don't hear anything. I'm curious to know what this complaint is and what the resolution is to it. Also I think you should do a video that demonstrates the cool sounds this car makes at 18mph and below. Apparently the feds mandated EVs after 2018 make some kind of noise at low speeds. This car sounds so cool at low speeds. At first I thought it was the drive train but then I realized they artificially produce it. I wonder if it's some sort of external weather proof speaker under the hood or what.
@@LichaelMewis will do! Yes hah I was actually thinking about a 'sounds from the ioniq5' video since most prospective buyers probably will not know what they are like going into it.
I actually kind of wish they had customizable acceleration sounds, I think it would have been a fun and quirky thing that matches this car's vibe though I'm sure many people prefer it without any extra fake noise.
@@CarsJubilee I'm sure they can easily release an update for that feature. But I find the sound that they put in it at low speeds sounds extremely cool but calming at the same time. Same thing with the reverse sound.
Ya I really hope so, agreed about those sounds.
Does you car have the whining noise from the motors? I can sort of hear it. There have been quite a few complaints about that noise on the AWD models because some people have that noise and others don’t.
I haven't heard anything abnormal to my ears so hopefully there's no whining noise. All I hear is the synthetic sound that's being projected at lower speeds plus what I thought was typical electric motor noise similar to what I've heard in another AWD model I test drove and a model 3 that I drove for a week, just motor whirring sounds.
4wd regen? I tested a rwd in ice conditions with i-pedal mode and it sended the rear out when I lifted off the pedal!
Sorry fore bad spell!!!😉
No problem! I've heard some people mention the regen level braking is too aggressive and causes slides in icy conditions. I haven't had the chance to drive in snow yet, probably not till next winter.
Yes the AWD model does have regen from all 4 wheels if I use I-pedal regen mode in ECO. It's also available in the other modes as long as you are not in level 0 regen.
@@CarsJubilee Thanx for fast answer👍
@@BYP333 you're welcome!
There is a snow mode for slippery conditions.
I pedal doesn't hurt efficiency. Cruise control disables ipedal anyway.
What makes you say it doesn't hurt efficiency?
It's true that cruise control disables it.
But if you drive around all the time with ipedal, that's forcing the car to use 2 motors constantly vs when it can often run using just one.
Most owners, myself included have seen efficiency increases when we stop using ipedal at speeds higher than 15mph.
Another way to think of it is AWD vs RWD. Why does the RWD have a higher epa rating? Because it's running one motor vs two. You get better efficiency running just one motor.