South Africans are not given easy entry in to any country in the African continent or abroad without a valid passport or work permit then why should South Africa be an exception?
When we visited Zambia recently, we had to wait at the border post for almost 3 hours before getting clearance of entering the said country although it one of the SAIDC countries.
@@KaniahNarrainsamy Exactly, my friend runs a business which has branches in Lesotho. He always has to present a passport at the border and his business is registered according to Lesotho laws and pay taxes. This is a 100% SA mosotho man,but he understands that just because he shares a culture and language with them, he is from a different nation. Yet you have people who have zero in common with us feeling so entitled to our country
Yes they are a burden, a huge burden. SA laws they are not enforced in general, and they need to be reviewed and changed and enforced, including the constitution.
The major problem when it comes to this topic is that South Africans are to be blamed. Tell you why I say so, we are the ones working at DHA, we are the ones in control ( or not so in control) of our borders, we are the one who are not patriotic and under skilled. Let’s talk about the police receiving bribes, the DHA officials letting them on the system for a back hand fee, the border control allowing them in for a bribe. Labour department not doing the work to raid companies who are employing illegally to cut costs. There are so many players on this. Look at the mines who prefer to hire people from Lesotho because of their breathing capabilities, the Zimbabweans who will work for less than what a local will not settle for etc…. The Government is to be blamed. There are many loopholes and they are not willing to accept that they made a boo boo.
I don't know what to say , infect the working permit and the citizenship permits are issued by South Afrcan officials . What do they do to see tò it that the permits they have issued to those people are serving the real purpose . You cannot issue permits after permits and fold your arms . Monitoring is so important . Asylum seekers visit their relatives on vacations , visitors don't go back to their countries when their permits , No one cares except ordinary citizens that are experiencing high crime . It is ridiculous . Issuing permits is easy but monitoring is difficult ,why ? It is better not issuing permits .
An enormous one..especially to our health sector!!! Their women are pregnant and unemployed without documents.. What's even worse these women are UNEMPLOYED..they can afford to be housewives 😢😢 Those who work are selling tomatoes and doing odd jobs that don't contribute to the fiscus. This is glaring and I don't understand why the government doesn't see this
Hi! What ppl aren't talking about is that it's not good to keep ppl that don't have documents when they die in our country it's not easy to trace from which country they belong some times thre mortuarys are full of unclaimed bodies
Thats a reason we as South Africans voted for the DA to try and save our country before foreigners took over our country fully ,,,ANC was just relexed ,,now we have DA we have a big hope that there will be change in our country
@@FrancinaBuda we got South Africans working in other countries , they are using visas or passports ,,, the problem that we have ,, is illegal foreigners that's all , legal foreigners with skills , who will contribute to the skills of improvement , and pay tax ,,,they are ok as we have South Africans who are working abroad who are doing so
How I love this young patriot Kwena she never step back for fighting for social ills facing fellow South Africans ✊🏿🇿🇦she has been attacked so many times by foreign nationals to fight back 🙏🏿
Obviously there is no way SA can accommodate the livelyhoods of illegal immigrants. SA needs a complete economic overhaul to provide jobs for its own citizens.
South Africans are so disciplined they prepare themselves prior to,to pay a visit to other countries eg having passport, visas etc and why people don't want to do things in a proper manner to have proper papers shows your identity who you are recognition anything can happen how can you be identified lets grow up and be matured and stop corruption short cuts like risking your life buying IDs to be the person you. are not fooling yourself no no correct this behaviour
...which immigrant receiving country doesn't have a backlog?...ln the US, people take 10years before their applications are attended...same in many countries of the West...
Hayi! These foreign nationals are exaggerating what is happening in their own different countries. This is an exaggeration, nje!!! The ANC and EFF let South Africans down from a long time ago regarding the influx of foreign nationals in South Africa!!! 95 Libyans, 70 Ethopians, 45 Mozambicans in a blue, 70 Mozambicans in two different taxis, and a crowd of Zimbabweans who are already in the country! Kunzima, neh. EFF must fall more and more South Africans!!!!
There is no need even to discuss the issue. In South Africa everything is negotiable. Instead of working,people are in meetings discussing useless issues.
To those who don't know that South Africa as a union began to exist in 1910 created by Jan Smuts primarily for Europeans and was a British colony from 1884 for Europeans.. The only chance to undo the burden caused by Colonial interests will be solved by a united state of Africa
I don't think you should use illegal and burden in the same sentence as if they two equate. There should not be any illegal immigrants anywhere...burden or not
ANC has all reasons to keep us away from employment opportunities, and we also have reasons to keep them away from the office, day they decide to defend our jobs, we will also defend their ruling job
If you are really serious about this matter as all of us are you can't have a social media influencer as somebody who has solutions for this 😂😂😂this is a serious matter that is done intentional by the governments of all the countries citizens involved a social media influencer will use emotions and get people angry from both sides and a war will start,we witnessed it in 2008 alot of people died South Africans and foreigners again in 2016 it was the case if people continue using emotions this will not end well for both parties so instead of having a social media influencer,have an expect instead who will use the common sense because with social media common sense is no longer common
No because certain politicians state that.the Continent of Africa must be a One State of Government , One Currency and. Open Borders. If it is problem to govern our country then how on earth would the above plan work ?
@@siyabonganxumalo4574EFF made I clear that they want anarchy and to destroy the current South Africa. They have no shame. One day ordinary South Africans will retaliate to EFF provocation. They will regret poking us South Africans
The problem is that no one will go to those countries except South African defence force who went there during appartheid and brought HIV to our country
@@sshipalana7667 Are there fences and walls that separate provinces, neighbourhoods, villages, zones like in Soweto? Is there a wall and fence that separate USA from Canada or the States of USA?
Mabanikwe ama documet ngamagama akubo ukuze benga bank kumatras banezingane la ngeke ukwazi ukuvalela umuntu njengenkomo e iD isiaza kubugebengu asheshe a tholakale akhokhe ne tax lmale eningi iyalalheka 2 abasafika babhoshwe 3 yaers noma bakhokhìswe 10 000 bazòsaba ukungena la deporting no no no ngina 50 yaers olld kudepotwa till today bayabuya ukumocha lmale ening
What an ignorant conversation?. Did Albert Lethuli have a passport ? .Where are the passports for all Xhosa, Zulu and Sotho who are now settled in Zimbabwe?. If these Indians got citizenship how did south africa forget to give citizenship to its people living outside south africa after 1994. Mozambique, Angola, Lesotho, Botswana and Zimbabwe they are all south africans change the name of the country.
They are Southern Africa states not South Africa, we are fine with the name, stop imposing on SA, allow us to do things our way at our own pace, we don't have to think with your mind
@@ndwekazim4881 Amazing how they want to dictate to SAns how to deal with SA matters, yet we don't tell them what to do in their countries. Their entitlement is astounding.
Thanks sisters ke nnete we refuse to be replaced as South Africa's period 😏
Yes, they are a burden
South Africans are not xenophobic we were told by the foreigners that we are xenophobic
Kkkkk really?
“South Africans are told by foreigners that they are xenophobic, and they believe it.” - Thabo Mbeki
Hhayi nje 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 there is not such thing .
South Africans are not given easy entry in to any country in the African continent or abroad without a valid passport or work permit then why should South Africa be an exception?
STOP LYING go get your Xhosa and Sotho still living in Zimbabwe after 1994 they never left Zimbabwe.
Perhaps these people have mining rights in that country of which they are denied in their country of birth.
When we visited Zambia recently, we had to wait at the border post for almost 3 hours before getting clearance of entering the said country although it one of the SAIDC countries.
@@KaniahNarrainsamy Exactly, my friend runs a business which has branches in Lesotho. He always has to present a passport at the border and his business is registered according to Lesotho laws and pay taxes. This is a 100% SA mosotho man,but he understands that just because he shares a culture and language with them, he is from a different nation. Yet you have people who have zero in common with us feeling so entitled to our country
Yes they are a burden, a huge burden. SA laws they are not enforced in general, and they need to be reviewed and changed and enforced, including the constitution.
U hope so? 😜😜😜
The major problem when it comes to this topic is that South Africans are to be blamed. Tell you why I say so, we are the ones working at DHA, we are the ones in control ( or not so in control) of our borders, we are the one who are not patriotic and under skilled. Let’s talk about the police receiving bribes, the DHA officials letting them on the system for a back hand fee, the border control allowing them in for a bribe. Labour department not doing the work to raid companies who are employing illegally to cut costs. There are so many players on this. Look at the mines who prefer to hire people from Lesotho because of their breathing capabilities, the Zimbabweans who will work for less than what a local will not settle for etc…. The Government is to be blamed. There are many loopholes and they are not willing to accept that they made a boo boo.
I don't know what to say , infect the working permit and the citizenship permits are issued by South Afrcan officials . What do they do to see tò it that the permits they have issued to those people are serving the real purpose . You cannot issue permits after permits and fold your arms . Monitoring is so important . Asylum seekers visit their relatives on vacations , visitors don't go back to their countries when their permits , No one cares except ordinary citizens that are experiencing high crime . It is ridiculous . Issuing permits is easy but monitoring is difficult ,why ? It is better not issuing permits .
We answered this question too many times. We want strong borders and strong policing towards foreigners. And South Africa at large
Mbalula is only saying it to seem as if they care He's failing to defend South Africans in calling things as they're.
I love your insight on this on this matter. You have just knocked the nail on it's head .
Of course they are a burden. This is a world problem
An enormous one..especially to our health sector!!! Their women are pregnant and unemployed without documents.. What's even worse these women are UNEMPLOYED..they can afford to be housewives 😢😢
Those who work are selling tomatoes and doing odd jobs that don't contribute to the fiscus. This is glaring and I don't understand why the government doesn't see this
That question should never even being asked.
Exactly ''' well explained sis'''' Actually most countries in the world are faced with this problem'''
Hi! What ppl aren't talking about is that it's not good to keep ppl that don't have documents when they die in our country it's not easy to trace from which country they belong some times thre mortuarys are full of unclaimed bodies
Im a Basketball coach and ref in Johannesburg i have less opportunities compared to someone that who cross boaders its sad very sad
Thats a reason we as South Africans voted for the DA to try and save our country before foreigners took over our country fully ,,,ANC was just relexed ,,now we have DA we have a big hope that there will be change in our country
We are sober, they will go the same way they came.
We voted DA for a change, now as we see, DA is talking about visas for the foreigners,it put foreigners first 😢😢,ipray to. God for SAs😢
@@FrancinaBuda we got South Africans working in other countries , they are using visas or passports ,,, the problem that we have ,, is illegal foreigners that's all , legal foreigners with skills , who will contribute to the skills of improvement , and pay tax ,,,they are ok as we have South Africans who are working abroad who are doing so
Yes those South Africans are legal and follow that countries laws
They have my vote. DA will have my vote. I'm happy with their progress
Well said my sister
Asylum seekers..do they go to their home countries ???????? 😮
They are
Yes they are real
How I love this young patriot Kwena she never step back for fighting for social ills facing fellow South Africans ✊🏿🇿🇦she has been attacked so many times by foreign nationals to fight back 🙏🏿
Well say sister
Yes they are we need to face reality it over due for this topic.And their Countries are not saying anything thing.
Yes they do
Obviously there is no way SA can accommodate the livelyhoods of illegal immigrants. SA needs a complete economic overhaul to provide jobs for its own citizens.
South Africans are so disciplined they prepare themselves prior to,to pay a visit to other countries eg having passport, visas etc and why people don't want to do things in a proper manner to have proper papers shows your identity who you are recognition anything can happen how can you be identified lets grow up and be matured and stop corruption short cuts like risking your life buying IDs to be the person you. are not fooling yourself no no correct this behaviour
Very true my darling well said
The news anchor is so knowledgeable same goes for the guest
...which immigrant receiving country doesn't have a backlog?...ln the US, people take 10years before their applications are attended...same in many countries of the West...
You waisting your time discussing this action needs to be taken,less talking and more action this issue is boring we not safe in our country
Not only Illegal immigrants even though they have papers they must go back even if they where born in South Africa they must still go back period.
Hayi! These foreign nationals are exaggerating what is happening in their own different countries. This is an exaggeration, nje!!! The ANC and EFF let South Africans down from a long time ago regarding the influx of foreign nationals in South Africa!!! 95 Libyans, 70 Ethopians, 45 Mozambicans in a blue, 70 Mozambicans in two different taxis, and a crowd of Zimbabweans who are already in the country! Kunzima, neh. EFF must fall more and more South Africans!!!!
Why are you asking that can't you see by your self
There is no need even to discuss the issue. In South Africa everything is negotiable. Instead of working,people are in meetings discussing useless issues.
To those who don't know that South Africa as a union began to exist in 1910 created by Jan Smuts primarily for Europeans and was a British colony from 1884 for Europeans.. The only chance to undo the burden caused by Colonial interests will be solved by a united state of Africa
Never
Of course
People moving as far as Pakistan to South Africa and we are surprised by a person from Lesotho?
I don't think you should use illegal and burden in the same sentence as if they two equate. There should not be any illegal immigrants anywhere...burden or not
True DAT, FACTS
ANC has all reasons to keep us away from employment opportunities, and we also have reasons to keep them away from the office, day they decide to defend our jobs, we will also defend their ruling job
If you are really serious about this matter as all of us are you can't have a social media influencer as somebody who has solutions for this 😂😂😂this is a serious matter that is done intentional by the governments of all the countries citizens involved a social media influencer will use emotions and get people angry from both sides and a war will start,we witnessed it in 2008 alot of people died South Africans and foreigners again in 2016 it was the case if people continue using emotions this will not end well for both parties so instead of having a social media influencer,have an expect instead who will use the common sense because with social media common sense is no longer common
Fast you can go your canary
No because certain politicians state that.the Continent of Africa must be a One State of Government , One Currency and. Open Borders. If it is problem to govern our country then how on earth would the above plan work ?
Malema is not in government.
And also, all these politicians who say these things, they're houses have fences that serve the same purpose a border serves to a country
@@siyabonganxumalo4574EFF made I clear that they want anarchy and to destroy the current South Africa. They have no shame. One day ordinary South Africans will retaliate to EFF provocation. They will regret poking us South Africans
The problem is that no one will go to those countries except South African defence force who went there during appartheid and brought HIV to our country
@@sshipalana7667
Are there fences and walls that separate provinces, neighbourhoods, villages, zones like in Soweto?
Is there a wall and fence that separate USA from Canada or the States of USA?
Yes, go home guys
Name a camp in Zambia
Why do you go and settle there with the foreign country that you they are expect according to you
Mabanikwe ama documet ngamagama akubo ukuze benga bank kumatras banezingane la ngeke ukwazi ukuvalela umuntu njengenkomo e iD isiaza kubugebengu asheshe a tholakale akhokhe ne tax lmale eningi iyalalheka 2 abasafika babhoshwe 3 yaers noma bakhokhìswe 10 000 bazòsaba ukungena la deporting no no no ngina 50 yaers olld kudepotwa till today bayabuya ukumocha lmale ening
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What an ignorant conversation?. Did Albert Lethuli have a passport ? .Where are the passports for all Xhosa, Zulu and Sotho who are now settled in Zimbabwe?. If these Indians got citizenship how did south africa forget to give citizenship to its people living outside south africa after 1994. Mozambique, Angola, Lesotho, Botswana and Zimbabwe they are all south africans change the name of the country.
You're crazy, SA is a sovereign country with laws. The are 54 countries in Africa all with their laws and borders.
They are Southern Africa states not South Africa, we are fine with the name, stop imposing on SA, allow us to do things our way at our own pace, we don't have to think with your mind
Try imposing on crocodile, u will be gone in a jiffy.
@@ndwekazim4881 Amazing how they want to dictate to SAns how to deal with SA matters, yet we don't tell them what to do in their countries. Their entitlement is astounding.