Before you return it: check if the fan speed control for the radiator fans are controlled by the cpu temperature. This would make no sense. Check if you can configure them to a fixed speed or to the coolant temperature. Instead set the pump speed control to the CPU temperature (or a medium-to-high speed). The high thermal mass of the coolant and radiator takes care of the rest.
Good point! I've never used liquid cooling before, so not even sure how you'd know the liquid temperature. All I know is the CPU is being kept cool even on extreme loads.
@@otakuspirit maybe there‘s a tool from the AIO manufacturer to download. For example, with my trusty Corsair cooler, theres software to select pump speed from three speeds. Middle setting is fine even for my slightly overclocked R2700. It’s a Frieren PC, so it has to be kept cool after all 🤪🥶
Are there actually fans on the back side in that area with the lighted Frieren banner? Can't say I've seen something like that. If there aren't any fans there, the excess heat due to the lack of cooler air that would normally come through that fan area would help explain why your PC is running hot and has to speed up your fans.
@@otakuspirit I'd recommend you download some kind of software that allows you to adjust the fan curves for the radiator, if you're fine with higher temps for the benefit of less noise it might be a good option. Could also look into replacing the fans on the radiator with some nice quiet noctua fans.
@@otakuspirit You should be able to configure it in Bios with fan curves, otherwise as others have mentioned, there might be a program for your AIO that's installed where you can also turn the fan curves down a bit.
The problem is not the AIO and buying a new one won't fix your problem. The problem is the type of case. This case is build for maximum airflow, which means you have optimal cooling and the lowest temparatures possible and so the best performance. Therefore no noise reduction at all. But that is normal, people just never speak about it. And a new AIO, new fans and all of that won't change anything. What does help is a custom fan curve, because your CPU doesn't always need to be super cool, so it is ok to be a little warmer and your fans spinning at lower rpm when you don't do heavy work. What also reduces niose is undervolting, and don't worry, you won't loose much performance since the clock speed stays the same. Still, looks amazing. I hope figure it out and have a lot of fun it.
An AIO should be quieter than an air cooled PC. This could be an issue with the fan curves in the bios being set to aggressively. You can use one of these apps, HWMonitor, SpeedFan, MSI Afterburner, or NZXT CAM, to check fan speeds and temps. Some of those apps include clock speeds for the CPU and GPU but if not you can use CPUz and GPUz to see clock speeds. You can see if the fan speed is because the PC is actually working hard and needs to run the fans or if there is just a configuration issue you can correct. At idle the fans should hardly be spinning for both the AIOs and the Case fans. The GPU fans should also be low RPM or even stopped if you're not running a game or using a productivity app that utilizes the GPU for something. A bit of investigating should find the problem. Not sure if you got an AMD CPU or an Intel CPU. Generally an AIO is overkill for most AMD cpus since they generally run cooler overall. If it's an intell 13 or 14th gen i9 CPU (and possibly the i7 as well) make sure all the patches and bios updates have been applied (should have been done by Starforge before they shipped it). There is a bug with those two generations of intel CPU that makes them pull more power than they should which causes the CPU to become unstable and eventually fail. Intel extended the warranty on those models for that reason.
For sure I figured it's something I can resolve over time, which is why I'm happy with it as is for now. After they have me run some temp checks, I'm at least confident the hardware is being thoroughly cooled properly (no seating/thermal issues) It is an AMD. I've never used liquid cooling before, so wasn't really sure how well adjusting a lot of the fan curvatures would work, since I think the bios goes based on the cpu temps rather than the liquid/radiator temps.
I love unique PCs. This one is particular is so gorgeous. For the loud fans, I'm 100% sure that the fans are set in DC mode instead of PWM. Do that and you won't hear anything, and since it's a tempered glass it should be quite in the first place.
Since those are Acrylic Posters, wouldn't it be better to get some sort of Backlight frame or something for them, so that the light from the back could counter the front reflection?
I use to use Tom's Hardware for PC parts recommendations. The last PC I built had an 8000-series CPU so it's been a while and I don't know their current reputation for parts and full-computer reviews. I build one PC (the 8000-series referenced above) that was liquid cooled. After about a year the pump failed and I replaced it with a really quiet air-cooled solution. I didn't realize it for a while (the pump was still working but the impeller wasn't moving) until I started getting sever thermal throttling. I decided to go back to air-cooled because either the damn fan is spinning or it isn't.
Ever since Linus Tech Tips said the Starforge emblem looks like a space pee pee when they reviewed their PC, I can't see it as anything else. Congrats on the space pee pee PC. Also, you might want to try 3M Command strips to hang that art. It's an adhesive that'll keep it on the wall, but also allow you to take it down without damaging the wall.
That looks like a 360mm AIO, which is on the high end in terms of CPU coolers. Starforge seems to use their own custom 120mm fans, which can get very loud at higher RPMs. If the fans ramp up really loudly when doing something as simple as launching apps, it means the fan curve is tied to the CPU and is too aggressive. Luckily, this is something you can easily adjust yourself. The best fix would be through the motherboard BIOS. Motherboards have various "fan headers," which is where the fans plug into the motherboard. Start by finding the CPU fan header in the motherboard BIOS and adjust its speed. The settings vary depending on the motherboard vendor, but there are usually presets such as quiet, normal, max, etc. If, after adjusting the CPU fan header, the problem persists, it could mean that the fans are being controlled by another fan header. In that case, try adjusting the remaining fan headers. Or there may be software in Windows controlling the fans. If so, you'll need to find that software and adjust the fan curve there or delete the app. Another quick test you can do is to ensure that the fans are correctly oriented. The bottom case fans should be pulling fresh air into the PC, and the top radiator fans should be exhausting hot air out of the case. You can check this by feeling the airflow with your hand.
You might be able to find a frame with a matte finish frontplate to reduce the glare for the prints. And IF the frame should happen to cover up the Starforge logos.....🤷♂
Rest assured you wont have to have your pc on the other room, there are many solutions for this. 1. Make sure what is making the noise, is it the radiator fans? GPU fans? 2. Use this software Fan Control, should be easy to find. It will allow you to read temps and tune your fans however you like.. 3 enjoy... unless something is going over 100ºC, in which case contact support.
download fan control and just set the fans to a set speed when doing things that requires minimal noise . i keep mine at 30% fan speed for everything and temps still stay relatively cool even under a heavy load
Nah if Asmongold made it you would have mold in it or molding pieces! Have you not seen his house tour? That man literally lives in mold and garbage, it’s crazy
Haha! Definitely not a big RGB fanatic (despite my single line of them on ceiling for ambient light), but all of them are adjustable I believe with a program.
Regarding your noise problem, check the temprature curve in the bios. Perhaps, if you don't wanna set it via bios you can use the software for AIO or the motherboard to have temperature use a silent mode or optionally set up your own temperature curve. Depending on what the CPU installed is the AIO will have a hard time with it on full load, but this would be only the case for something like rendering your videos. And there is no cooling other then customized to not ramp up to deal with the heat produced. In any case you may wan't to download some freeware like core temp to check temperatures. Under idle the any CPU should not take in much current and produce not much heat, that should be extracted with the AIO running minimum RPM. So if the temperatures are rather high maybe something with the application of the thermal paste between CPU and Coolerblock is wrong.
I've done MSI's fan controls for silent and smart fan settings in bios. My next step is to adjust the curve myself. All I do know is that the CPU temps are good, even on high load, so at least it's doing its job.
I am also actually building a PC myself but i've been waiting for the Lian Li 217 case for a while. I will at least get a frieren Desk matt, because the case itself it's pretty expensive and I don't know if i'm going crazy but I used to think that i've seen you before and in IT as a matter of fact.
That sucks bud! My Geforce 3070 RTX is insanely quiet and passive cooling most of the time. I have REBAR setup and can boost lock with zero noise escalation 6 core tweaked to 4.2GHz - -nothing really pins this, certainly not a download lol....
Naaaah, AIO-s don't have anything to do with this. Actually they are somewhat quieter than air coolers. Also it shouldn't go berserk just from downloading something. Especially while cooling an AMD CPU, they run a lot colder than Intels. My AIO doesn't even spin up unless i start a game, can easily keep 50-60 celsius just by circulating the coolant without the fans. Others already gave you advice how to set the fan control. If it still keep doing it you should contact Starforge again
If I see it correctly, you don't have any airflow right now. The ones at the bottom pull the air out just like the ones at the top. This causes the warm air to build up in the case. This means the aio have to rotate faster (louder). It's best to turn the fans at the bottom so that they can pull in fresh air. The side with the frame is always the airflow direction for the fans + Check the fan speed in the BIOS
So Chibi Reviews and Otaku Spirit have the same PC now.
That was my first thought
Samesies!
Thought the same
If the PC came with that smug smile like in the thumbnail I would have got one too. 😊
Haha, that would be great!
Before you return it: check if the fan speed control for the radiator fans are controlled by the cpu temperature. This would make no sense. Check if you can configure them to a fixed speed or to the coolant temperature. Instead set the pump speed control to the CPU temperature (or a medium-to-high speed). The high thermal mass of the coolant and radiator takes care of the rest.
Good point! I've never used liquid cooling before, so not even sure how you'd know the liquid temperature. All I know is the CPU is being kept cool even on extreme loads.
@@otakuspirit maybe there‘s a tool from the AIO manufacturer to download. For example, with my trusty Corsair cooler, theres software to select pump speed from three speeds. Middle setting is fine even for my slightly overclocked R2700.
It’s a Frieren PC, so it has to be kept cool after all 🤪🥶
Are there actually fans on the back side in that area with the lighted Frieren banner? Can't say I've seen something like that. If there aren't any fans there, the excess heat due to the lack of cooler air that would normally come through that fan area would help explain why your PC is running hot and has to speed up your fans.
@@otakuspirit I'd recommend you download some kind of software that allows you to adjust the fan curves for the radiator, if you're fine with higher temps for the benefit of less noise it might be a good option. Could also look into replacing the fans on the radiator with some nice quiet noctua fans.
@@otakuspirit You should be able to configure it in Bios with fan curves, otherwise as others have mentioned, there might be a program for your AIO that's installed where you can also turn the fan curves down a bit.
The problem is not the AIO and buying a new one won't fix your problem. The problem is the type of case. This case is build for maximum airflow, which means you have optimal cooling and the lowest temparatures possible and so the best performance. Therefore no noise reduction at all. But that is normal, people just never speak about it. And a new AIO, new fans and all of that won't change anything. What does help is a custom fan curve, because your CPU doesn't always need to be super cool, so it is ok to be a little warmer and your fans spinning at lower rpm when you don't do heavy work. What also reduces niose is undervolting, and don't worry, you won't loose much performance since the clock speed stays the same. Still, looks amazing. I hope figure it out and have a lot of fun it.
An AIO should be quieter than an air cooled PC. This could be an issue with the fan curves in the bios being set to aggressively. You can use one of these apps, HWMonitor, SpeedFan, MSI Afterburner, or NZXT CAM, to check fan speeds and temps. Some of those apps include clock speeds for the CPU and GPU but if not you can use CPUz and GPUz to see clock speeds. You can see if the fan speed is because the PC is actually working hard and needs to run the fans or if there is just a configuration issue you can correct. At idle the fans should hardly be spinning for both the AIOs and the Case fans. The GPU fans should also be low RPM or even stopped if you're not running a game or using a productivity app that utilizes the GPU for something. A bit of investigating should find the problem.
Not sure if you got an AMD CPU or an Intel CPU. Generally an AIO is overkill for most AMD cpus since they generally run cooler overall. If it's an intell 13 or 14th gen i9 CPU (and possibly the i7 as well) make sure all the patches and bios updates have been applied (should have been done by Starforge before they shipped it). There is a bug with those two generations of intel CPU that makes them pull more power than they should which causes the CPU to become unstable and eventually fail. Intel extended the warranty on those models for that reason.
For sure I figured it's something I can resolve over time, which is why I'm happy with it as is for now. After they have me run some temp checks, I'm at least confident the hardware is being thoroughly cooled properly (no seating/thermal issues) It is an AMD.
I've never used liquid cooling before, so wasn't really sure how well adjusting a lot of the fan curvatures would work, since I think the bios goes based on the cpu temps rather than the liquid/radiator temps.
I love unique PCs. This one is particular is so gorgeous. For the loud fans, I'm 100% sure that the fans are set in DC mode instead of PWM. Do that and you won't hear anything, and since it's a tempered glass it should be quite in the first place.
I saw this on sale a few weeks ago. WAY outta my price range even though I want one so badly! even the case itself is making my wallet cry.
Would love the case but I would not be able to display it properly so where I and others could see its beauty.
Since those are Acrylic Posters, wouldn't it be better to get some sort of Backlight frame or something for them, so that the light from the back could counter the front reflection?
You bought a good thing!
Congratulations! For the loudness issue maybe get a Noctua cooler, or check for a "silent" profile on the fan settings
Chibi's PC is actually nice so congrats on the PC.
I use to use Tom's Hardware for PC parts recommendations. The last PC I built had an 8000-series CPU so it's been a while and I don't know their current reputation for parts and full-computer reviews.
I build one PC (the 8000-series referenced above) that was liquid cooled. After about a year the pump failed and I replaced it with a really quiet air-cooled solution. I didn't realize it for a while (the pump was still working but the impeller wasn't moving) until I started getting sever thermal throttling. I decided to go back to air-cooled because either the damn fan is spinning or it isn't.
I don't need the components inside the case but I really want that case...
The noise kinda defeats the whole purpose of buying the "frieren" themed computer lol
Fan curve issues on the AIO. Can just download a fan control program online and set the curves so it doesnt ramp so high on basic tasks
Need more smug elf energy so maybe Frieren Slayer mode would be awesome too
try to adjust the fan curves. it will probably run hotter, but also be quieter
Ever since Linus Tech Tips said the Starforge emblem looks like a space pee pee when they reviewed their PC, I can't see it as anything else. Congrats on the space pee pee PC. Also, you might want to try 3M Command strips to hang that art. It's an adhesive that'll keep it on the wall, but also allow you to take it down without damaging the wall.
Thanks for the suggestion!
That looks like a 360mm AIO, which is on the high end in terms of CPU coolers. Starforge seems to use their own custom 120mm fans, which can get very loud at higher RPMs.
If the fans ramp up really loudly when doing something as simple as launching apps, it means the fan curve is tied to the CPU and is too aggressive. Luckily, this is something you can easily adjust yourself.
The best fix would be through the motherboard BIOS. Motherboards have various "fan headers," which is where the fans plug into the motherboard. Start by finding the CPU fan header in the motherboard BIOS and adjust its speed. The settings vary depending on the motherboard vendor, but there are usually presets such as quiet, normal, max, etc.
If, after adjusting the CPU fan header, the problem persists, it could mean that the fans are being controlled by another fan header. In that case, try adjusting the remaining fan headers. Or there may be software in Windows controlling the fans. If so, you'll need to find that software and adjust the fan curve there or delete the app.
Another quick test you can do is to ensure that the fans are correctly oriented. The bottom case fans should be pulling fresh air into the PC, and the top radiator fans should be exhausting hot air out of the case. You can check this by feeling the airflow with your hand.
It looks amazing, so cool. I really need a PC, I only have a laptop, which I rarely use haha.
9:07 you might want to try just replacing the fans with fans from Be Quite.
You might be able to find a frame with a matte finish frontplate to reduce the glare for the prints. And IF the frame should happen to cover up the Starforge logos.....🤷♂
Rest assured you wont have to have your pc on the other room, there are many solutions for this. 1. Make sure what is making the noise, is it the radiator fans? GPU fans? 2. Use this software Fan Control, should be easy to find. It will allow you to read temps and tune your fans however you like.. 3 enjoy...
unless something is going over 100ºC, in which case contact support.
download fan control and just set the fans to a set speed when doing things that requires minimal noise . i keep mine at 30% fan speed for everything and temps still stay relatively cool even under a heavy load
Thanks for the suggestion!
i started watching this anime today owo
Nah if Asmongold made it you would have mold in it or molding pieces! Have you not seen his house tour? That man literally lives in mold and garbage, it’s crazy
Haha, I figured he was visiting the warehouse that day!
He's the millionaire hobo.
oh god this thing is gorgeous (despite all that white and too much RGB)
Haha! Definitely not a big RGB fanatic (despite my single line of them on ceiling for ambient light), but all of them are adjustable I believe with a program.
Regarding your noise problem, check the temprature curve in the bios. Perhaps, if you don't wanna set it via bios you can use the software for AIO or the motherboard to have temperature use a silent mode or optionally set up your own temperature curve. Depending on what the CPU installed is the AIO will have a hard time with it on full load, but this would be only the case for something like rendering your videos. And there is no cooling other then customized to not ramp up to deal with the heat produced. In any case you may wan't to download some freeware like core temp to check temperatures. Under idle the any CPU should not take in much current and produce not much heat, that should be extracted with the AIO running minimum RPM. So if the temperatures are rather high maybe something with the application of the thermal paste between CPU and Coolerblock is wrong.
I've done MSI's fan controls for silent and smart fan settings in bios. My next step is to adjust the curve myself. All I do know is that the CPU temps are good, even on high load, so at least it's doing its job.
I am also actually building a PC myself but i've been waiting for the Lian Li 217 case for a while. I will at least get a frieren Desk matt, because the case itself it's pretty expensive and I don't know if i'm going crazy but I used to think that i've seen you before and in IT as a matter of fact.
Haha, maybe! Or it was my doppelganger.
@@otakuspirit It was in boston btw in case you're curious.
Otaku spirit, when you post a video like this you gotta give the specs...
my problem is that im Team Red (AMD) 🤣🤣
They let you choose intel or amd. I got the AMD one. Was too afraid of messing with the current Intel issues.
@@otakuspirit ya i heard their power supply issue
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I am in a new market for a new PC .... Send me one please!
Ah frehren 🤣
That sucks bud! My Geforce 3070 RTX is insanely quiet and passive cooling most of the time. I have REBAR setup and can boost lock with zero noise escalation
6 core tweaked to 4.2GHz - -nothing really pins this, certainly not a download lol....
Naaaah, AIO-s don't have anything to do with this. Actually they are somewhat quieter than air coolers. Also it shouldn't go berserk just from downloading something. Especially while cooling an AMD CPU, they run a lot colder than Intels. My AIO doesn't even spin up unless i start a game, can easily keep 50-60 celsius just by circulating the coolant without the fans. Others already gave you advice how to set the fan control. If it still keep doing it you should contact Starforge again
Oh wow that’s annoying, so you can’t even look at the beautiful PC, needs to be in another room.
I wouldn't support Starforge anymore after they fired asmon
it's free-ren :)
How are you still not able to mention the name of the series and its lead?
If I see it correctly, you don't have any airflow right now. The ones at the bottom pull the air out just like the ones at the top. This causes the warm air to build up in the case. This means the aio have to rotate faster (louder). It's best to turn the fans at the bottom so that they can pull in fresh air. The side with the frame is always the airflow direction for the fans + Check the fan speed in the BIOS
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Gross. Asmongold.