AoM Retold Beta Campaign | Voice Dialogues, Titan Difficulty, Completely Redesigned
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The actual gameplay of the campaign was really fun! I can't wait to see how they have changed it when the game releases!
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Game looks amazing, voice acting kinda hurts ngl. I think if no one played the original it can work. I hope they have an option that can switch it to original voices.
Wsit for the original voice mod
I completely agree. The portraits pack could have an addition with the original voices.
No
@@Ballistic-vn6em Yes?
they should've expect the backlash it happened in AOE2 DE as well
By trying to make the voice acting more authentic, they ironically made it that much worse. There were definitely come misses in the classics (Looking at you, General) but there were WAY more hits. That first cutscene with Arkantos and Krios perfectly captured the urgency of a city being invaded by pirates.
*PLEASE ADD THE OLD VOICE/DIALOGS PLEASE*
No
@@Ballistic-vn6emlol
Someone will mod it. Dont worry.
Will age of mythology theme (Boit’s version) be available on Spotify?
Oh no, poor Ajax. I feel like the actors weren’t given enough direction for this
I'd imagine its more of a voice direction problem given the issues are consistent across all the voices.
yeah, whoever was the director for this failed, same as art direction
@@ThiccomanThose huge mobile-ahh pictures of the characters look like some cheap free-to-play game tbh
You know, the campaign would probably be a really fun D&D campaign
14:47 maybe the hoplite got thrown into the dead area by a Kraken?
Ajax, black sails....
THE FINEST BLACK SALES AVAILABLE!!
28:37 0/10 Kamos, no bullish snort
7:12 Place not in Atlantis, but in my dreams :D . A small but big detail.
Best RTS campaign ever
13:49 I don't know why, but this cracked me up. Something about ESVO ESVO ESVO ESVO (BOOM)
13:01 boit why are you running the decorative trees 😂
Is it just me or does Arkantos sound like Shrek?
swapping the voice files will be one of the first mods available, I reckon. It is a really easy fix
Anyone here a fan of Blood Of Zeus on Netflix? The OG voice actor for Amanra voices Gaia in season 2 and it put a huge smile on my face hearing her
ETA on a original dialogue mod
The new voices are not inherently bad, but they could do better with more emotion into their lines. Although some people find it cheesy, having the voice actors over deliver on their lines allows them to paint a picture of how each character feels.
They are inherently bad
The problem is they did it with the intention of making it more authentic to the culture. And while’s many would agree the intention is not a bad thing, when you focus on that it usually comes at the expense of everything else.
no they are bad
My man said "let's get some micro happening here" in tutorial o.o
Gotta get the practice in when I can! 😂😂
oh god, the voice acting! It's not the accent, it's the tone! Athena is now just a random woman. The original voice was 100% immersive and befitting of a goddess. I mean it can work, but why the downgrade from perfection
I was pleasantly surprised to find out that the original Athena VA went on to voice Athena in the God of War series games.
@brendanspencer6735 really!? I hear many good things about GoW, maybe it's time I actually get the game :D
@@Thiccoman depends on which one you're getting. I recommend you start with the OG series first and not the reboot.
The old ones are mostly hack n slash while the new are mostly story/narrative driven as with most AAA PS titles in recent times.
So also depends on what genre you prefer but I'd still recommend you play the originals first.
I honestly really wouldn't mind if they added a higher difficulty level for the campaign. If the skirmish AI can go abouve Titan - surely the campaign can too - titan didn't offer much challenge in EE and neither does it here from what we were able to play so far ^^
Terminology has been downgraded in the the skirmish AI, the formula goes:
- Titan (+0% handicap) = old Hard
- Extreme (+50% handicap) = new interstage between old Hard and old Titan
- Legendary (+100% handicap) = old Titan
Although the new AI overall behaves *slightly* more intelligent, so the new version feels a little bit tougher than its old pendant.
The campaign feels more difficult than before not because of handicap, but because *for every mission* they manually adjusted the *rules* per difficulty tier. So for example the higher the difficulty, the more unit spawn, more frequent attacks, more upgrades already researched, etc. Adding more handicap won't help in a lot of missions (where AI has no economy). They would have to manually add rules for another difficulty tier, which is probably not worth the effort because whoever is that good at the game prefers other challenges than campaign.
@@ikosaeder3625 I will have to disagree with the last sentence there. Channels like GiantGrantGames - whose video on AoM has affected parts of Retold - are great proof that not only there's people of high skill who prefer campaign content and there's a big audience watching them.
I myself do not interact with PvP at all. I play the campaign and custom maps if there are any. Spend hundreds if not thousands of hours playing RTS campaigns over and over and over again
@@ikosaeder3625 They have also changed many maps, removed extra town centers in one of the first ones etc. So perhaps it will still be fun and a bit different but familiar. But you should go to the forums Rancor and suggest another difficulty setting. They are taking feedback and are planning to support this long term. So maybe they will consider it for those who needs that extra difficulty. I mostly play campaign myself and I think more options would only be beneficial.
I sincerely hope they will give us the option to put in the original voice lines at some point. I also want to enable the original god portraits. No need for AI art, when there is amazing handdrawn stuff to be had already.
The new voices feel phoned in, like the voice actors weren't talking to each other but just reading off a script and they used the first take. Also still no opinion from you on the AI art for the god portraits, I feel like creators need to be harsher about that. There is no excuse for AI garbage in a game.
Oddy's special is like the Scorpion unit from AoE2, pierces everything in a straight line
looks awesome - they can change the audio with a simple file swap
Im all for new voice work but this definitely needs some work. I will say it didnt help that they left the original Athena in then changed her, I got excited they just reused the old lines lol
I can't wait to hear and even worse version of "Its Kastor son of Arkantos"
Well, they thought Krios was right, so...
*ALSO PLEASE FIX THE WALKING, UNITS ARE SLIDING!!!!*
this, fr fr
Lol did the voice actors even play/see anything of the original? It's so baffling to understand how little love is put into remakes like this
Hey BoIt, really enjoyed watching this. I play AoM on an older laptop without much of a graphics card, do you know if they retold needs much higher system requirements? thanks
Yeah it is. You will need a graphics card sorry 😔
@@BoitTV thanks!
Kamos sounds like a super mutant from Fallout.
Yow the campaign I knew has change it became more amazing ❤
The maps are laid out differently, aren't they? Will get some getting used to, as I have played that campaign so goddamn often :D
Yeah it seems like it's all been redone from scratch.
Ok the voice acting was a big oof...
I hope they fix the dialogue on release
Dionysus looks like he is at a costume party
I think that the current VA is a little odd but if they can nail Gargarensis’s VA it can still work
The chance they will ruin Gargarensis is high. He was a poet, and they didn't nail the rest, so...
I have my doubts on the basis that in their attempt to be more authentic to the culture, you lost what made it fun.
Wasn't the UW cheese for the mission with Gargarensis digging for the gate to Erberus? Poseidon doesn't have access to UW
19:20 in the act of not spoiling it, we did spoil it
Btw, in Vanilla AoM - Brazilian Portuguese we say Kamos like in Retold
They didn't remove the cheese. They fixed the campaign storyline. You are Poseidon. Arkantos still thinks he is the good guy.
They need to add the new difficulty settings to the campaign, but mission 5 is well balanced and difficult
Difficulty curve is great! I hope it keeps getting more and more challenging!
If the delivery being bad on the voice lines wasn't enough, they don't even sound Greek a lot of the time. Odysseus literally says proseke instead of proseche which is literally how they say it in Greek. Like, what even is the idea they had with the voice acting? I have no idea. It literally doesn't work no matter how you look at it.
All i'm gonna say for this beta, is that the hearth(the gameplay), the body(the graphics) are there, but the soul( the voice acting) is so lost/gone. I really hope this is some a.i for betas sake and change it in the future, because when i heard arkantos butchering Kamos's name i couldn't believe it, and i really hope is not that they want to keep a lore accurate accent for a "more immersive" experience. The voice acting is so off that it i believe the voice actors( if they are real) didn't even looked at the original voice lines to have an impression
have them listen to the original dilog and then voice act based on that
They replaced the voiced actors 😭😭😭😭😭
funnn!!!
I would love it work on Mac
I hope they add a whole new campaign. this feels like just another reskin to me and as I play AOM mostly in single player, the extra cost of getting the game seems to not be worth it for me so far :(
Considering the amount of changes to the gameplay, its at the very least effectively a revamp of the campaign even if they just copied and pasted it.
@@Sone01TheFirst They did not copy it, they made every model, texture and animation from scratch. So you pay some bucks for the graphics upgrade, and also for some cool changes that make god powers and myth units more impactful.
@@ikosaeder3625 I talked about changes to gameplay. When I said "even if they just copied and pasted it" I meant the actual campaign, from unit placement to triggers. Also please note the *IF,* I've already noticed changes to the campaign such as the position of the Trojan Docks or the lack of a TC in mission 1.
Given that atlanteans are available at launch, its likely that the atlantean campaign will be available at launch too.
Given how they set up the main screen with its own section for campaign, it seems reasonable that they would go with the aoe2de mindset where any new pantheons would include a corresponding campaign
We know that they're redoing the chinese pantheon so it also seems likely that they'll redo that campaign as well, maybe in the vein of a journey to the west style campaign
@@AC-eb7kt Sure, but i still hope there will be completely new campaigns for all pantheons. I hoped for a continuation, not another rework.
Athena's voice is a bit too emotional for a deity. I liked the old one
is Greek boit, you always get the pronunciation wrong
I'm glad they changed some pronounciations (Kamos instead of Keymos) but other than that the voice acting is this game's weakest point, but I'm glad they made them act out the Greek accent!
I really don't get how giving the characters a greek accent is supposed to make it better, it makes no sense for them to speak english in first place, why do the accent thingy.
Agamemnon is the only new good VA but I think it's pushing it to call these new VA AI slope.
It's obvious that they wanted to have a more accurate accent which I do understand but they should've expect the community to not welcome these new VAs because this is what happened in AoE2 DE
you realize, the originals put more emotion into there work than the new ones did right? thats mean dude. plus, they are cutting each otehr off in teh cutscenes. thats not very good way to handle voice direcion. which questions the va work.
Terrible Voice acting. Arkantos sounds like a Wimp, not a General.
So glad they fixed athenas voice
Is that a DLC?
your mom's a dlc
It's an entire remake. The game has been remastered before, and now there will be a whole revamp from the ground up with new assets and voice acting.
My hope is, even the story campaign is changed somewhat, or the numerous expansions are integrated with one another more cohesively.
Looks like they got some random college interns doing the voice acting. How can any professionals be this poor? Impossible. Flat robotic voices, no tone of delivery at all.
Some of the worst voice acting I’ve ever heard. There’s no way they leave this in the final product.
I have a suspicion they will.
Stupider decisions have gone through due to the “we need to have Greeks voicing Greeks otherwise you’re a bigot” mentality.
I give it 50% chance the voice acting is AI-generated. Sounds okay, but I do *not* want generative AI in my AoM!
Gameplay-wise, this looks amazing!
I kinda don’t like the voices …
Holy crap the ovice acting is terrible. LIke they got it from fiver. Put the old voice lines with this graphcis and its perfect
The game looks awesome. I don't understand all the nitpicking. The voice actors are good, the characters look great. I don't understand the hate, it doesn't have to be exactly the same. Some voices are worse, like ajax and some are even better!
It's just a preference for me with the voice dialogue and the nostalgia of it.
@@BoitTV Yeah, that's understandable. I don't think you were too negative either, but I read some comments that exaggerate imo, "It hurts to listen to".
Pretty simple to just give us an option to have the old voice lines back...I can see that the voice lines are definetly rushed for the beta...and they might be better on official release, but come on, they should take the L and the critics to make it better, and also just add the option
It's a remake and there's no need to fix what isn't broke. Improvements? Sure. But then make sure they're actually improvements, not half assed and soulless.
@@jaro551 stop destroying original ips please. respect the originals visions.
To be honest I like the newer voice acting better, it sounds more authentic.