First Look at the Street Fighter 6 Season 2 Balance Changes!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- So in Japan right now there is an event called the Real Life Battle Hub where NO PICTURES OR VIDEO IS ALLOWED but people can get hands on with Akuma and the season 2 build of Street Fighter 6! Naturally info trickles down, and now we have some ideas of the changes that are coming for s2 of sf6, so lets break down what we know!
Check out the followup video with even more changes found here: • Even more Street Fight...
0:00 - Patch Preview & Akuma
2:28 - Drive Reversal change
4:54 - Big Ryu changee
7:12 - Jamie gets fun stuff
8:24 - Meter nerfs for some
10:07 - Aki living large
12:47 - The Assassination of Edmond Honda
16:58 - Season 2 is near!
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***EDIT*** A followup video with more changes is now live! Check the vid description for the link
So here we are with a first look at some of the upcoming changes to Season 2 of Street Fighter 6! The event where we have found out the info so far is no pictures or video allowed so... don't expect either of those. This is trickle-down info, so theres a chance some of it could be either incorrect or a bit off base, this is not official patch notes in anyway shape or form, nor should you expect official patch notes just yet. The main event of Akuma + Season 2 drops on May 22nd so patch notes probably just before then! That all said its fun to get info when we can, so here's what we know!
Damn Luke's pretty good? Better nerf Honda.
Not a major part of the video or anything, but seriously please stop complaining about throw loops. They are good for balance and if anything basically every character should have them, they shouldn't be removed.
You’re hilarious. You had me crine about Luke 😂😂😂. He remains on the box lol
If you main E Honda in Street Fighter 6, you may be entitled to financial compensation
Money money - yeah yeah.
Lmao.
😂
I have sunk almost 400 hours into Honda - eagerly awaiting Capcom to nerf his nonsense and buff other parts of his kit to make him, you know - a regular character.
I am very sad. I really, really am holding out hope.
@@jamiemc2313I absolutely agree with you I love Honda but he is just far too brain dead atm.
I’m praying there are a bunch more buffs coming to make him a real character
You guys missed out on the Kim buffs:
•Full air invincibility on meterless tatsus
•her grounded OD tatsu now cancels into level 2
•heavy elbow into OD air grab now combos
•level one super has an option to decide whether or not to use spray cans
heavy elbow into OD air grab sounds REALLY FUN!
Man, I switched to Cammy cause of how bad Kim was about a month ago. I might switch back now if those buffs are real.
@@DragonK-rt3uh Hopefully, they made some good changes to her Normals too
I'm gonna spam ranked matches with Kim so bad before they revert all this broken stuff back
Ooohhh 👀🔥
That all makes me think that Capcom actually gave Broski's "Rebalancing SF6, but with only two changes per character" video a watch- This ryu change was something he mentioned- And I'm sure he's incredibly happy about those A.K.I. changes, very needed
I want to say something
1. I never get tired of roofle saying hello and welcome. Very satisfying and each video he said it is heartwarming.
2. Is it Jamie really ban from evo tournament? He can’t be that OP
3. I want in this patch that each character get at least 2 or 3 new moves (JP with muda muda rush and the bison giant from sfv)
if you caught me saying jamie was banned from evo on twitter, it was very much me joking lol.
@@rooflemonger joking? Phew you scare the hell out me, Jamie may not be my main but I love his moves, story and character so much. We talking about a Jackie Chan character being “ban” from evo. But that’s ok 🤣😅
Banned ? no one picked him, that's all.
@@amidoo6637 no one except Daigo “the beast” umehara and thanks to him he is showing Jamie how good is becoming
Lmao, people actually use the battle hub?
That Ryu change is pure gold. We've wanted that from day 1! It's a happy day
Ill keep my hopes up for Manon
I believe the event where this is happening is lasting a few days, so expect more info to trickle down in time. Trickle down info is no replacement for patch notes, but it is indeed better than nothing. It won't paint a full picture though, so while admittedly im not too happy with what we are learning about Honda right now, theres a good chance theres lots of buffs people don't know to look for.
I Hate fighting Honda, but that headbutt nerf seems excessive, like its going to kill the move completely.
Let them cook
Fr, especially if they didn't touch Blanka ball, which is objectively a worse offender for being mindless and unpunishable
Good.
Might have to only use it sparingly for combos or anti air. Been trying honda lately but seems I chose the worse time since hes getting nerfed lol.
If Zangief got Lariat to hit on both sides, faster startup on his crouching FP to make it decent as an anti-air, stomps to be useful as more than framekills, and Tundra Storm to work on all mid attacks, I would wake up to see that none of that happened and he got nerfed.
This! All of this! The lariat is almost useless as is. The EX version is ok, but only hitting front takes away a lot of the utility it had in previous titles.
I'd like those. I would also take a DRC for st.mp or cr.mk, better cr.hp combos, or decreased knockback on a bunch of normals.
Even a combo route like 2mp juggles so we don't awkward hellstab -> SA combos.
Hopefully we get something
@@Mandydeththis!!
Some of the easier pressure on the corner is St. mp for gief, but the insane knockback he has makes it where you cant even combo 80% of the time.
Unlike good characters like ken which he literally jumps forward making sure he dont miss the TC
Tbh I'm happy with just 5MP always linking if you get the counter hit and it doesn't whiff just because your at a certain range, and Lariat being usable.
@MrRyamEros f*ck no. Gief is already a wall. He doesn't need lariat to hit behind.
That Ryu change is huge!
Honda players: ok you can nerf headbutt and buttslam but can we please get buffs in other areas please
Capcom: headbutt and buttslam nerfs, got it.
😞
Obviously they are going to buff him in other areas. Right now you can get to master using only headbutt and butt slam, that's just how good those moves are. If they buff him without nerfing those moves he would be broken. So seeing these nerfs i am confident Capcom is going to buff him massively in other areas.
Next patch: Honda removed
@@skychaos87💯
@@skychaos87if you lose to a Honda that is only using Headbutt and Buttslam, that is on you. Once you reach Plat 4 both of those moves are unsafe on anyone that knows how to play the game.
I lol'd at the zoom-in on Aki, Noo Wake up Options
They dont want Honda be good, another hit for Honda nation.
cowards have always feared hondas honesty.
Good
They don’t want Honda or Blanka to be good. It doesn’t matter because they will always lose to Guile and Dee Jay anyways. 🙄🙄🙄
How is he not good? He’s one of the most annoying ones
They say brain power must be spent to use him now lol
As a Gief and Sim main, wakeup DR is a huge buff.
Aki mains too
I thought you meant drive rush for a sec and got mad confused lol. Would make for an interesting wakeup option though 😂
The game just got even more boring.
i play the same two and yes it is
The Denjin change is something i thought Ryu needed since the betas
Akuma's always been the ultimate pixie shoto. Dude's squishy because he has EVERYTHING, and I love it.
Terrible balancing.
May 22 will be capcom's answer to Gief mains thinking of dropping him , and I'm betting it wont be a nice answer
Being a Japanese game, you would think they would help their guy out. 🖐
Lol
They helped Ryu
Aki changes do look great. I was always hoping her stance punch would be invincible to projectiles. Finally you can use it outside of combos
The Aki's venomous fang 1st frame projectile inv is a huge buff, it can finally be a reliable anti fireball tool!
Thank you as always rooflemonger!!
If they don’t give him no sumo spirit buffs even though he REALLY needs it and it’s something that made his low game scary in SFV then ima be really upset
I really hope that Honda's overall changes make him something other than only a scrub-killing gimmick. I hated him playing the game the first month, and then after I learned the matchup I have lost two or three sets against a similar skill-rank Honda player. I would love him to be an actual character, your excellent "Buff Honda" video might have set my hopes too high though.
Thank you for putting this together! I was going crazy reading reddit/twitter threads
I’m convinced Honda could heal the opponent on hit and the scrublords supremes of rank uranium would still sue for Honda nerfs.
Yup meanwhile they're playing characters that have the best buttons, specials, throws, and supers all at the same time LOL
@@slipperysnake3822 what’s crazy is that NOW THEYRE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT! People talking about how it’s too much rush down and aggression in these newer fighting games like oh my god, pick a fucking struggle.
The second I learned how to counter headbut and sumo slam he literally became a nothing burger match up
Honda mains when they can't spam 2 moves to get to master anymore:
@@slipperysnake3822seriously, its like characters like luke juri jp dont even exist in this game. But you know what, it is better this way, playing footsies with the big guy and beating them without using headbuttslams at all is a whole other world of fun & salt
The Denjin buff makes Ryu viable
He is already viable
Bro was great after his last patch changes
Viability isn't the issue, it's that Ken and Luke do what he does plus a more. It's uniqueness that's the issue.
Thats not the issue with Ryu. Not having enough “new” ways to open the opponent is. Everyone knows his gameplan so there you go
They didn’t do enough though. It’s his fireballs that should make him stand out. This Denjin change certainly helps, but they need to make his FB game uniquely different than everyone else’s.
Appreciate you Roof , you always come through with the content
Jamie buffs 💪🏽🍶#drinkingresponsibly
Thanks for putting in the work for this Roof 🦍
Akuma drops the day after my birthday… it’s a good time to be a gamer 😂
And 2 days before Combo Breaker
Lets go Gemini
Will be awesome if Ryu's Denjin stacked with OD Shoryuken, OD Tatsumaki and OD Donkey Kick by doing Electrics with these special moves ⚡
Ryu compared to Ken it lacks in special effects department
Exactly. Why does Ken’s have a fire shoryuken and HK while Ryu has to charge to get lightening only for the fireball? Is it cuz he’s a Japanese character? Lol
Think Ryu being able to decide when he cash in his charge is going to be huge for him.
Really hope every character gets something cool
Thanks for the great vid as per your usual!
Ryu should have more health he looks tanky feels tanky give him more health. He needs a niche. Hes been worst shoto too long. Give him more parry stuff and maybe armor i dunno hes just been lowest tier shoto for too long.
I like how measured some of these changes are. Can't wait to hear who else is coming in Season 2!
Yes, good old slight changes after a year wait
Love me some minor tweaks after 365 days of jack and shit
Denjin buff is all Ryu really needs, he already has the sauce, he just needed a way to be able to use it practically
You don’t think he needs some more mix up ability?
@@theultimatedisciple7974 that would be nice, sure. But I don't think it's a very pressing concern. He's meant to work with basic tools and hit hard, and the denjin buff lets him do that much more often now
I like the idea of the Honda changes but I wish he would have received more buffs to his normals so Honda doesn’t just spam.
Dude... that ryu change makes me so happy omg😭
I can't believe they would do this to the man that saved the earth from a meteor
Been waiting for this
With these honda nerfs they could’ve just left him out of the game . Put Dudley or Ibuki in that spot.
I hope Gief gets some love. Poor guy. He certainly does not need nerfs.
I mean Blanka ball is way more reactable than headbutt, I pretty reliably get a dp on that compared to headbutt
why do you only have 225k subs? you are THE DEFINITIVE fighting game channel. that baffles me
Thank you very much for this video and analysis, but I wanted to ask about Chun Li, Hifight in his X account published that Back medium punch or fwd medium punch is nerfed also... is this correct or only lvl 2 and recovery in fireball H only? thank you so much
I'm about to go hard With those heavy palm buffs
Jamie Cr. MP +5 on hit means he can also link into jab and thus his target combo LV1. That's nice!
I think they're straight up sacrificing Honda, top players don't use him and low ranks find him annoying and unmanageable so he's just being used to get to Master quickly, so Capcom just threw him into the slaughterhouse.
I definately agree with you on the "Akuma Invalidates Ryu" point. because I was looking at the akuma trailer and some of my immediate thoughts were: "Wow, they said that ryu mastered the power of nothing and they sure as hell meant it... This man aint learn NOTHING compared to Akuma"
I like the Ryu change, it sets him up as being a counterpart to Akuma, given he is free of the Dark Hado burden.
It reinforces his proficiency in fireballs over Ken too.
Its probably going to be a menace in lower leagues where some Ryus just spam fireball, but that shouldn't be too much trouble.
Fingers crossed Honda gets something else good out of his primary tools getting nerfed a bit.
Man, i never liked how DR was two bars on top of whatever gauge chip you received so getting a flat two bar reversal nice
I dont really care about the headbutt or buttslam. I want him to have an actual neutral.
That Ryu denjin buff sounds awesome. Glad to have more options, especially since Akuma can throw fireballs of different strengths and at different angles.
How do you even do a wake up drive reversal? Dont you need to block to do the DRev?
Honda was pretty good when he came out in SFV. Good enough to be plenty of fun. And the world didn't come to an end. Daigo loved playing him.
So what is Capcom afraid of??
Really happy with the aki buffs. Only thing I really wish was there and am hoping is in the patch notes is better air invul on heavy lash. Also I think the combo isn’t on light lash it’s on the lash follow-up to her fireball: 214lp > 6p
Aki is cool I hope the venomous fang F1 FB invincible frame is real
Manon need some safe moves.
Buffs to my two mains (AKI and Jamie)...yeah I'm thinking I'm back.
good stuff
I’ve never noticed Honda’s abs before. That’s scary 🥲
Glad that throw loops stay. They are the essence of fighting games distilled. And I am glad that they dont put in janky anti fun rules like they did in SF3
welp, hope zangief gets something but i still think the dev team just doesn't know how to play against grapplers and are afraid of a mid tier grappler in their game
Just fix his issues and that'll be cool
The most minimal buff he could get is if crouching medium kick is cancelable
Is it too much to ask for every hit of MP target combo to hit.
@@zaneseibert you mean even on not CH or that sometimes the first hit doesn't combo into the second hit? Because if it's the later, I totally agree, that definitely should work. If it's the first, I also think it's quite reasonable.
That would instantly make him high mid tier @@TheMrdemitri14
The E. Honda section name sounds like a video essay title
Woo they did the ryu change we've been wanting
I think a buffed standing strong that moves forward better might be better. If it moves forward enough it might be a large buff. I think if you neutral jump a headbutt you got called out and you deserve the counter. A high mobility slap is kinda sounding nice.
Bro this is day one and we've already got this much info? This event is gonna be enlightening.
Is drive reversal as fast as eds dp? If so then we all are gonna use cause only light punches can punish it
As an AKI main, the Japanese generally thinking she's bottom 1 seems like it is going to be very beneficial to me. I think she's middle tier'ish, but whatever. The stance punch being frame 1 invincible is a huge deal, and she already wasn't bad against projectiles. Still want an hp lash buff though, but maybe it's in there too.
My son was Mike Begum aka Brolylegs he passed away 3/19/24 . He was on of the best chun Li in the world 🌎. He loved fighting games .
Jamie Palm Gang rises!
Does Blanka's SA2 also block any meter increase?
“I hope Honda got justice.”
Turned into: “I can’t wait to play Akuma.”
when will we see character pass season 2.
I don't understand how building in a possible vulnerability for one specific Honda move is good design, but I don't write fighting game characters. The buttslam distance makes sense but if I'm being honest I'm not going into an Oicho throw from a buttslam unless they're already in the corner, I'm going for a 2LP+2LP poke to make sure they're paying attention.
Plzzzzz super buff Lily and Manon ❤❤❤❤
I swear that soon even Chiwavas will be able to beat Honda in 1 vs 1
i have to get this out there: there is a other fighting game that got new stuff announced in evo japan:
Iron saga VS. No one in the yt fgc seems to be covering it. Hope ya give it a look sometime!
Drive reversal being minus 6 means you can still punish counter with a MP depending on the character still. Deff more than a Jab, Drive Reversal on wakeup is a great change though
No major changes to Jamie's drink system? Damn. I was hoping you could retain a drink level if you maxed it the round before.
Ngl the beginning of sf6 reminds me of the beginning of sf4 since it had the world warriors and new characters
So does this mean Anti-Air Headbutt is gonna be incredibly riskier now considering Honda Headbutt’s new property?
Can you maybe do a vid about why Capcom doesn't want Honda to be good? I mean, there has to be a reason right? His kit would break the game or something? I would really be interested in your perspective on this roofle
Welp.
I've been playing ranked SF6 off and on for the last year, not really fully pushing into Master with anybody, but it looks like it's time to to push that final bit to get Honda from Platinum to Master before I might not be able to.
NGL, was hoping for Lilly or Manon news.
Whoa, I'm super early!
Why do i read this in beowolf's voice?🤣🤣🤣
"stuck in their feelings" 😭
⚠newbie here⚠
Can someone explain why when i look up the official winrates for all characters Honda is on top right now but everyone says he's really bad? Do I missread the winrates and he's actually the worst right now? Same for Lily, I heard she was really weak but when I looked at her winrates she seemed actually pretty decent. Or do their winrates not matter because they get picked so rarely?
So if akuma is now season 2 but I paid for the season 1 pass do I no longer get akuma in my current pass?
? He's a season 1 character
He closes season 1 and season 2 starts.
Ah okay then. Other games like strive have the final dlc character come out THEN later the new season will start. The way roof said it made me think that Capcom ended season 1 early. That makes sense. Thanks friends
@@2CoffeeBlack3 That's just a matter of using video titles to get more attention for the videos.
I'm not going to lie Honda is one of those characters I forget is in the game with the way he is now
I hope he gets stuff to put him back in
I'm happy for Ryu 's Denjin change and think it should have been that way all along. But, as a Gief main, I feel like I've encountered more issues against Ryu players than from other characters you might expect, like Guile, so here's hoping that Gief gets buffer than he already is
You are right, as an AKI player those changes got me smiling lmao. I only hope Juri doesn't get hit too hard
Season 2 is going to be sick i wonder if Chun is getting any other changes, that nerf seems really minor im cool with that
I think basically evey nerf here makes perfect sense. But I think some other characters needed big buffs to really balance out the patch. Like Gief's lariat should hit both sides or maybe give him oki off of Siberian Express and Honda should get buffs to go along with his nerfs. I mean headbutt and buttslam were belligerent moves so I get the nerf but you can't just nerf his gameplan and not compensate *at all.*
Hope dhalsim gets a buff too 😌
Hope they nix the one patch a year experiment and dont let their game stagnate another whole year after this
And as a honda main im alright with those changes but i think they should buff his walk speed, i feel like thats the main problem with his neutral.
Honda main here. I’m hoping there’s a lot more buffs that counter these nerfs. Also, MAYBE, just maybe, they buff that MP forward movement to counteract the buttslam pushback. If the opponent tries to throw out a button after buttslam, Honda will be able to punish counter with the new MP forward movement.
AKI gang rise up.