@@kk12181 You're in Death Valley,have a blowout which chews the rim up. It happens all the time. You're out of cell range and you're screwed. Why does a $38K vehicle not have even a space saver spare? Lame. I'd buy one in a second otherwise.
I got my 2023 CRV 9 days ago and I already get 48 MPG in combined driving...In only city I get 51 MPG. so I am very happy with this car..way better than advertised mileage--- wow and great car!
What speed you driving at to get those miles? 20mph? And only counting downhill? I find it really hard to believe... Please prove me wrong because I do want to get the CRV hybrid
@@nounta1016 From 76 to 25 mph. Perfectly normal driving. I drive for Lyft in fact n get from 47 to 51 mpg. I’m surprised as anyone. With a heavy foot tooo
I know you know your stuff, but it’s actually not a CVT transmission in this vehicle. It’s what they call an E-CVT which differs from a regular CVT transmission. As you probably know, a CVT transmission uses belts and pulleys where an E-CVT uses electric motors to control an infinite number of gear ratios based on its “smarts”, example; road conditions and driver input. Anyway. Enjoyed the video nonetheless. 🙂
Bought one today. It may not be 0-60 speedy, but I also own a CRV touring of the previous model and this new one feels much quicker putting around town because the low end torque from the electrics is notably quicker to respond, especially in sport.
Honda really does a disservice to itself by calling the transmission an eCVT. Personally I had written this vehicle off as I can't stand traditional belt CVT transmissions, no matter who builds it, due longevity issues. THIS CRV, on the hand, is NOT a traditional belt CVT which I found out after looking into Honda's Hybrid drive system. The system in this is all GEAR DRIVEN with a few clutch packs, though is does drive and fell like a CVT due to the dual motor setup at city speeds. I get why they call it a "CVT" but they are loosing potential customers by doing so. After driving a demo, I ordered one, and can't wait for it to arrive. 100% agree with "buttons and knobs", one of the many reason this mid 40's guy chose this over others in the class.
With that transmission, for best acceleration, you’re not supposed to slam the pedal to the metal. The transmission is not slipping, but it’s not accelerating as efficiently as when you press the pedal 1/2 way or 3/4 way. It’s counter-intuitive and I don’t know why it is so, but that’s just the way some transmissions are, and it seems to be the case here.
We just picked up ours. I bought it 9mths ago completely blind since not even the nonhybrid was yet available. We have had 2 previous ones and had complete faith on what is a legendarily good, solid, reliable car. Let's be frank, compared to an 8-year-old CRV (we missed the previous gen), the hybrid is a revelation, it's not better, it is superbly better in absolutely everything. It is orders of magnitude quieter. The ride is firm but supple and well controlled. Handling is superb for an SUV in this category. Driveability is also superb, not a race car, nor is it meant to be. It feels more than adequately powered in all conditions. On the highway at a steady 65 if feels as planted, quiet and composed as any Acura I've ever owned or driven, maybe even better! If you think of it as an Acura with a hybrid powertrain and a more utilitarian interior, you have the right idea. The exterior design is modern and elegant, without a doubt, the best looking CRV EVER. The interior design follows the same rules, perfect fit and finish with great design but more utilitarian than sumptous. The controls are PERFECT. Wonderful knobs, buttons and displays that are of positive feel and high tactile quality. The cloth seats are comfortable and spacious front and back. The CRV virtue of space for passengers and cargo with aplomb is here in spades. This a spectacularly fine car that belies its price in every dimension. I have driven a contemporary RAV 4, quite frankly, its not even worth comparing them, they seem to be in totally different categories. The RAV can barely "hang" with an HRV, here its not even a competitor.
TFL just doesn't get it. The hybrid does not have a CVT. It has a two-motor hybrid system, sometimes called an eCVT. Has not belts or bands like a regular CVT. They keep screwing this up!!!
@@eleanormassaro5195 exactly why I’m considering a Hyundai Tucson instead. It actually gets a 6 speed transmission, this CRV sounds like a hair dryer at WOT
Am I the only one who’s fine with the smaller screen? The bigger screens in economy cars always look cheesy and just slapped on. I’ll take a smaller screen and higher quality any day
Hybrids should have been the 'next step'. That would've increased mpg and not be susceptible to the issues currently have (bad range for towing, drastic range loss in extreme cold that much of the US sees in winter). Then the EVs could be rolled out more after the next gen batteries address the weight/range issue (and supply issues for materials)
Exactly. Despite Teslas success, all manufactures cannot jump on the EV train all at once. The electrical grid, and charge station are still a long way from being able to support it. As far as I know, they've not even implement standard power plugs in new homes and building construction. Building that infrastructure is still at least 2 decades away.
Absolutely agree. Toyota’s hybrids have been extremely reliable, really good power (except Prius) and of course fantastic fuel economy. The fact that my coworkers 21 Camry hybrid that drives as hard as a teenager gets 42mpg is incredible.
@@James-il3tq My 4Runner doesn't even get 20 mpg at 70 mph unladen, haha, so 20 mpg is great while towing. And you can extend your "towing range" with a 5 minute fuel stop, so it doesn't really matter.
I ordered one of these that came in yesterday. After looking at it in person I came back home in my 2020 touring. This new one doesn’t come with HomeLink to open my garage door. It also went back to having to get in to the backseat in order to drop the seats. My 2020 has convenient handles that I can just pull to drop the seat from the rear. I did enjoy my test drive, but I expect more from the top of the line. I don’t know why they would take away things that they had before. In addition my current car isn’t a hybrid and includes a spare tire. I’ve had Hondas since they were introduced in the 70s, but I might be done with them if they’re going backwards with convenience. I see they offer a mirror to upgrade to HondaLink, but with the top trim that shouldn’t be an add on.
Yeah the lack of Home Link was a major dissapointment when we brought ours home. Never even considered that the top model would not open garage doors. But I can replace the mirror with the Home Link model for under $200, and with everthing else we're very happy with it. So I'm not going to sweat another $200. But it is pretty stupid that it doesn't come with the car.
I have this model on order, have test-driven it, and viewed countless reviews. Yours was not only truly informative, but it was FUN to watch. I have had 7 leased high-end Accords in a row, 5 with V6s and the last 2 with the 2.0/10 speed drivetrain. I wanted to get the all new Accord, but that choice has been eliminated by the purely unnecessary 3+" Honda added to the car...which makes it 1" too long for my garage. End of story. I will miss the fantastic power in my Touring Accord (C & D sez 0-60 in 5.4) but, since the new Accord and CRV have the same engine and electric motors, the 8 fewer inches in vehicle length make this a no-brainer if I want to stick with Honda, which I do. The CRV is noticeably quieter than my 2020 Accord on coarse pavement, and cornered better than I expected...not like Accord, but very little body roll. The CRV is quite a bit slowER, but it's not truly slow. Besides, I'm getting old and should slow down! The Sport Touring CRV should have included the HUD display and ventilated seats I have in my Touring Accord. SIDEBAR: I love what I've seen about the 2023 Accord and I love C & D, but I think the new Accord doesn't deserve the 10 Best Selection this time around. Simply put, not enough performance and a big stepdown from the 2 liter turbo/10 speed. PLUS I just learned the Accord Hybrid octane recommendation is 91, not 87. Ugh.
Your acceleration issue is as bad as Tommy’s slip test fail issue in the previous video. I really wanted to like this new CRV but those two things are a big fail. Thanks for being the channel that points the negatives out as well as the positives!
Nathan, does your slow acceleration issue have to do with altitude? Several other YT auto journalists got much faster numbers at or near seal level at the new model reveal.
@@martinferreira1666 They have in the past stated that altitude robs NA motors of quite abit of power. And I believe that can be a factor where they are based. Although I would think the electric motor should help with some of that. I need to get around to watching Tommy's slip test so I can decide for myself if the AWD system is any good or not.
@@martinferreira1666 - they always take the altitude into account. The altitude is a big factor in NA motors and affects Turbocharged engines about 15%. The electric motor certainly could have a bit of a factor reducing quite so prominent of a difference, but I think it’s only 40 hp (I could be wrong on that, but it’s close). Honda has been less than impressive in this category for a while. They had engine issues not very long ago as well. The vast majority are perfect mechanically of course, but more than a normal quantity of CRVs definitely were a problem. Not for me, neither is the Toyota hybrid AWD. I like that there’s a plug in hybrid with Toyota, but I much prefer the set up in my wife’s Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe, same with the Wrangler 4xe she had before that. The motor and power is the same to all 4 wheels. They did quite well in the slip test and are amazing when it comes to acceleration. If getting into the class of the RAV4 and CRV I would choose a Toyota with just the 2.5 litre & AWD. To each their own of course so I drive trucks!!! 😂😂 and classic vehicles!! We also have a 2022 Mercedes 4x4 Thor van conversion. It’s a very nice way to cover the miles! Stop have a meal, maybe nap, and then keep on going. I had a Tahoe Premier DuraMax, which was 1 or 2 too many new vehicles, so have sold it for very near what I paid for it. It cost me about $1,000 CAD to drive it for 5 months and 5500km. Not too bad. A friend bought it & they have a family of 6. They are ecstatic about getting it! Oh yeah,, I put all new Michelin winter tires on it as well. There’s an almost unlimited amount of choice out there!!
I appreciate your thorough response. However I'm nearing retirement age and plan on buying and keeping an economic and relibale vehicle for a long time. Plan on doing lots of car camping while visiting our National Parks etc. IMO a hybrid vehicle makes the most sense. Both the RAV4 and CR-V are rated at or near 40 / 35mpgs and have mostly stellar reliability. I would consider Mazda and Subaru but they do not offer hybrid variants as of yet (Crosstrek PHEV is available in some markets but it's too pricey). Mazda is rumored to be working on a CX-50 and upcoming CX-70 hybrids. Several YT reviewers I trust (Alex on A, Kirk K, Matt Maran and Sofyan) have all given the CR-V Hybrid high marks however I have not yet road tested it myself. Happy New Year everyone. Cheers!
Why is everybody making such a big deal out of the spare? Do some research and see how many vehicles on the market today have repair kits rather than spares. You people act like this is something unique to the CR-V. And personally, the kits make more sense for 99% of the situations I might find myself in.
We have the 2023 Sport-Hybrid with no spare. I can count on one hand the number of times I needed a spare tire in 50 years of driving. The car comes with a 12 volt tire pump in a compartment in the rear as a backup along with tire sealant.
We have had a 2012 crv since new as my wife's daily driver. We love it and the 2.4l is bullet proof provided you do regular maintenance including a valve adjustment every 100k miles. Honda can keep the augmented sport mode, ours is pretty fast (much faster than this new model) 0-60 and the gas mileage is about the same with a LARGER naturally aspirated engine. It seems Honda changed over to a smaller turbo with no significant increase in mileage, that was dumb. We would absolutely consider a new one but wouldn't expect it to last as long as our current model.
Small plus turbo does really well on the EPA mileage test. Same with the engine stop/start systems. Optimized for the test, not for real life (mine at least).
We have a 2009 CR-V that we bought new, we now have 185,000 miles. This has been the most reliable vehicle we have ever owned, even more reliable than the Toyotas we have owned. Only one issue and that’s the sucky air conditioner.
His contempt for a vehicle that is going to be used as commuter by most buyers is mind numbing. “It has a slow 0-60 time” it’s a box on wheels. “It has meh mpg” again, it’s a box on wheels. Its what you get when you’re afraid to get an Accord because everyone else thinks they need a vehicle larger than a WW2 tank to go to Costco.
This has everything I want but I would pick RAV4 for better cargo space before folding down rear seats which I try to avoid having to do. Acceleration is not a turn off. I drive a Prius now and have no problem passing cars and I probably drive faster than most people on the road.
I don't get how these car journalists put so much emphasis on acceleration, 0 to 60 times as if that's the number one selling point! I'm with you, I have no problem passing in my accord
Supposedly, the RAV4 has tons more cargo space than a CX-5 with the seats up. Well, earlier this year my wife got rear ended in our 2021 CX-5. The rental we had while it was getting fixed was an AWD RAV4. During this period we took a longer trip and had to load up for four people. My wife complained that the RAV4 had less space before I told her it technically had more. She said "no, it doesn't". RAV4 does have more passenger room. Much of the cargo space measured is the space from the top of the rear seats and up and not used most of the time. Put stuff there and you cannot see out of the rear view mirror. From the top of the rear seats on down, I see very little difference in the cargo volume. Regarding other storage spaces, the CR-V and RAV4 are far ahead of the CX-5.
Just looked at this car yesterday. I am seriously considering, however there is a big BUT I wish you had mentioned. It lacks a spare tire! It might be a deal breaker for me and other people
We have the 2023 Sport-Hybrid with no spare. I can count on one hand the number of times I needed a spare tire in 50 years of driving. The car comes with a 12 volt tire pump as a backup along with tire sealant.
@@stevekeyes9402 I had to replace a flat twice in the last 6 years... I might be unlucky... anyway it's a personal preference, I was just leaving this info here for others since he didn't mention it in the video. I just can't stomach the possibility (even if remote) of being stuck on a road trip with a flat that can't be sealed..
Hopefully most viewers by now have found out that the transmission in this car is not a true CVT. It's not a CVT at all, even though Honda markets it as such.
the extruded volume button is really convenient during driving. I wish android player to have this kind of extruded button instead of touch button for volume control.
You did not adequately describe the hybrid CR-V's transmission - you called it a CVT, but it is NOT a CVT in any meaningful sense of the word. Though Honda calls it "eCVT", there are no belts involved with transmission of power to the wheels. Everything is solid state.
Was heat/AC turned off? We need an apples to apples understanding - when the power to the wheels is electric and we are draining the electric (think electric heat/ ac/ fan) then the short term available power to the electric motor is choked. Would like to see acceleration figures every accessory off as well...like in Kirk K's review of the CRV-Hybrid - dramatic difference...also, as pointed out below, cold makes a difference to the battery as well.
I have complaints with the new model, which I may be alone in thinking. I had a '18 crv ex and now have a '22 accord touring hybrid. I would love to go back to CRV however the top trim is still missing ventilated seats, heated rear seats, and they even got rid of the side levers to drop the rear seats from the hatch. I understand these are considered luxury to most but not to me. Why should I only be able to go from a hybrid sedan that gets about 50 mpg to a v6 3 row suv, Pilot, that gets 23 mpg combined in order to keep top trim features. There is no middle ground anymore. Toyota at least spreads the love throughout their models, even the new top trim prius has more features than the crv. I'm a Honda lover so I won't be going anywhere, its just frustrating. Sure I could move up to Acura but why should I? If the RDX can have these things, a CRV can
44 mpg in town on my Sport L. I’m in love. It’s smooth and it can get out of its own way. Couldn’t care less about screen size. Why car reviewers obsess on this fact is beyond me. The CRV is a Civic on stilts….so it handles well too. Traded in an MDX and honestly it’s a vast improvement in terms of efficiency and comfort. 👏👏Honda.
I don't know what you're doing wrong with that 0-60 measurement, but the hybrid CR-V does 0-60 in about 7.6 seconds. Did you have your left foot on the break?
The trunk is big because of the way it’s measured. The window line is high, the cover is high as well. The volume is calculated up till the cover. So without the cover the story becomes as exciting as CR-V’s AWD 😂
Good vid. You forgot to mention the fact that there is no place to stow a spare tire if you like me, decided to buy spare tire and throw it in the trunk! It is annoying the hella of me that Honda don't even think about at least create a space to put it in if they decided to NOT giving spare tire!
We have the 2023 Sport-Hybrid with no spare. I can count on one hand the number of times I needed a spare tire in 50 years of driving. The car comes with a 12 volt tire pump in a compartment in the rear as a backup along with tire sealant.
@@stevekeyes9402 Exactly, you can only count on one hand, but you do still can count on your one hand! That is my point of why you should have a back up. Because if you live in a remote area like me and your main tire just fubar, it is a difference between going to the next town and to stay at the side of the road and spent the night there!
If you did this review in Colorado you at around 5000 feet above sea level. There is a power loss when you the far above sea level. I live about 1000 feet above sea level. Where I live in Canada the list is $51K plus several other costs
I have taken both the 2022 and the 2023 Honda CRV ( non-hybrid) for a test drive, and there is a major improvement in quality, comfort, and esae of use for the infotainment screen. It is much better than the previous model and is on my list of possible furure pirchase, along with the Toyota Rav4 and the Subaru outback. Whilr the Mazda CX-50 was part of my original considerstion and has some nice features, heads-up display, I hated the infotainment, which uses a rotary dial instead of a touch screen.
@@ffsolutions9442 II may have considered it, but the reliability of Hyundai/Kia iis poor. Their engines fail and could possibly catch on fire. It will be many years before I can trust them.
@@jaimieconroy36 The engine issues only apply to the 2.5l in the US. That`s why I said, look into the hybrid, as it has the European powertrain and I already owned the previous gen with the same 1.6l Turbo and it has been dead reliable and no issues reported with it for 60k miles over 3 years of ownership. Its now with a new and happy owner as we bought the new gen. The hybrid also has a 6 speed torque converter which is very robust and smooth, without any dual-clutch jerkiness. I also did some mild offroading last weekend and the car did not slip a tire, climbing entirely on battery and when the engine was running, which was about 50% of the time on a 4 mile course, it seems like it was running as a generator to just add more power into the battery which was the main source for controlled movement. I hope the hybrid becomes more popular in the US overall as it is their bets powertrain at the moment, and it also helps them improve on the reputation after the 2.5l issues.
@@gmfitzg the hybrid is AWD only but as I understand it uses FWD for normal driving. not 100% sure on this - just my understanding. The mpg is currently exactly 42.8 - the transition from gas power to electric while driving is super smooth. the car has been and remains worry free.
My CR-V Hybrid Touring is on order. Hoping to get mid-February. I looked at all the competition and this was my heads up favorite. I’m selling my 2011 Subaru Forester (which I’ve loved) for this one. I wish Subaru would get better gas mileage on their top of the line Forester and I would’ve considered it. But Mazda, Toyota, and Kia did not match up to this in my opinion.
I got lucky, today I waled into to a Bay Area Honda dealer and they found one in my color, red Hybrid AWD Sport - it was on its way from the manufacturer to LA and will get shipped from there to the Bay Area and be here in 4-5 days. The new CRV is fantastic.
Ok, so we bought one of these. A sport touring hybrid in the dark grey color. We are in Texas. We bought the CRV late December, so at the time of this comment it's about 3 months old. The hybrid battery has already gone out and needs to be replaced. It's currently at the dealership for the next 5 days while they order and install it. Oh, and no loaner vehicle available because our local dealership only has 2 and they're both taken. Very disappointed.
Why make a vehicle with low profile tires (prone to pot hole sidewall splitting) and not have a spare tire? Honda should have put 17" rims on the hybrids, not 19" rims. Would it hurt sales if the window sticker showed a (more accurate) combined MPG of 32, for this Hybrid? This CRv has been out long enough that buyers are posting actual MPG and it's between 11% and 20 % less than advertised, maxing out at 35.5 on a good day, not 43.
Now in all fairness...your issue only occurs if you brake torque it. If you just step on the accelerator pedal, it mimics shifting and sounds normal to most drivers expectations. Toyota hybrids always whine by comparison. Also, I wish reviewers would stop saying it has a CVT. It does NOT have a traditional CVT with belts and pulleys varying ratios. In most situations it has a gas engine driving a generator that then powers the traction electric motor that drives the wheels. So it is more like drving an electric vehicle. It does have a low and high range lockup where the gas engine does also drive the wheels. I love the "B"mode which makes deceleration natural and helps regain battery charge. The amount of regen can be changed easily using the + and - paddles on the steering wheel. Under normal day to day driving, this CRV Hybrid is extremely quiet, smooth and a pleasure to drive.
How Is the Honda Direct Injection Engine (DIE) compared with Hyundai/KIAs that are failing in catastrophic numbers? Apples and Oranges comparison perhaps but how's Honda when it comes to longevity?
I've followed Honda for a long time and knew that as soon as they first showed off the 2023 CRV earlier this year. It was going to have the same power trains despite being a larger and heavier vehicle. It's honestly lucky the mpg hasn't suffered as well.
I sincerely don't understand why so many reviewers love a shift knob rather than pushbutton transmission. I've driven an Acura RDX for 4 years with pushbuttons and it is far superior. I especially like that it shifts into park when I turn off the engine. Since the shift lever is only really activating electrical switches I find a shift lever to be as unnecessary as using a lever that size to control the fan speed or temperature.
That's a deal killer for sure. My BMW has what they call a no flat tire that you can drive on if it has a puncture. I regret it though. On some surfaces that tire makes allot of road noise. Just had to replace one and they are very expensive. Over 500 dollars for one. Yikes. BMW makes them with spares as well. If I could go back I'd get one with a spare.
@@HiPlains1 I have the 2021 crv hybrid, and do you know how stupid you look explaining to someone helping you out with a flat in the middle of the night that your brand new $40k car has no spare tire?
@@TobiHamed apparently it was because the current gen did not have space for the battery since it came out b4 the hybrid. But they should use no flat tires instead of a gimmicky can of air which probably won't work anyways lol. I'm surprised this is even legal. Yeah that would be embarrassing. They should just mount the spare on the rear door like they did with the second gen. Which was their best CRV they ever made.
I just bought one. High on the list is to go to the junkyard and grab a donut tire and jack that will fit so I can keep them in the back. Slightly annoying that it doesn’t come with that I guess.
There is NO CVT in the Honda hybrid system. The electric motor powers the front wheels directly up to a certain speed (around 45 to 50 I think). At highway speeds the ICE takes over and directly powers the wheels at a set ratio comparable to a 6th gear. For reasons unknown Honda calls it an eCVT but there is NO transmission. There are many video available that explain this.
I like the knobs also. have the volume knob on my 2023 Santa Fe Calligraphy. I like the button transmission, different strokes for different folks. I like the 0-60 times on the Santa Fe. .
To sum up Roman‘s review of Honda CRV hybrid. Compared to dodge demon Toyota Prius is slower but the up side is that it’s also more quiet and saves more gas.
This was resolved nearly a year ago on this and other sites by me. I got a personal note from the editor in chief of CARandDRIVER that it was a typo on their part in an early CRV review.
Seems like a lot of steps both forward and back. On one hand the aesthetics are a bit nicer, the phone spot is actually big enough to hold a modern phone, and there's a towing capacity now... on the other hand, they made the already-chunky CR-V have a bigger footprint and mass, which also slows it down, and furthermore the thing is silly expensive now. And honestly, while the interface upgrade for the centre console is welcome, I would kind of miss the digital-forward feel of the previous generation's dashboard.
I owned a 2018 Civic Touring, with 1.5 liter. engine. great car but in winter 1.5 was not enough to warm up the interior when it was -20 Celsius outside and this is a regular winter temperature in Canada. Small-volume CR-V engines were the only reason why I didn’t buy a Honda.
They always screw it up with something, wished the horse power was at least 220 ish instead 202, considering that you have 247 lb ft of torque, it would have sold like crazy
I like the knob on the radio, on the other hand if I were in a accident not sure if my eye socket would miss that sticking out or not. I like the fake fog light area..indicating that something that isn't there should be but it ain't even an option because they opted out without a vote from the people. Last time I was in a ford it dropped the transmission at 36.000 miles.. not kidding. so Ill take the CVT please.
It's not a CVT, Honda just calls it "E-CVT" because apparently they like confusing people. At urban driving speeds, it's basically operated like an EV with a weak battery, and power supplied by an onboard petrol generator when needed. The engine only gets used like an engine on fast roads or highway speeds - it used to be only at like 100mph on the original CR-V hybrid but the new design adds a second speed to the parallel-drive clutch.
What are some of you folks averaging in your CRV Hybrid for gas mileage on the highway? Just curious - I've seen some people complain that it's quite a bit worse than they expected.
The loss of the base models will be a problem for Honda as interest rates skyrocket. Higher interest rates increases payment differentials for options/higher trims. Since there is no lesser trimmed CRV, customers will have to go elsewhere to get a vehicle with payments they will qualify for.
Only couple of g's in price separated the base LX model with the next trim level EX model. If that little difference in price is disqualifying anyone then they are buying too much car to begin with.
There are numerous problems with the new CR-V that are hard to overlook: missing features on the top trim, poor acceleration, poor hybrid fuel economy, and poor AWD system. The thing that really bothers me is that the CR-V doesn't get the digital driver display that the Civic and Accord have nor does it get the 12.3" infotainment display the Accord gets
Man, how come nobody talks about the biggest issue with the Honda CR-V? The front seats don't go back far enough. Even at only 6 feet with long legs I can't get into a comfortable driving position in my girlfriend's CR-V. I can't even fully extend my legs while riding in the passenger seat. Most of the other vehicles in this class go back much farther and they don't kill my knees on long drives. Even the bigger Passport doesn't go back far enough. Just put longer seat rails in Honda! We tried the 2023s cause they were supposed to be a bit bigger, but they still have the same issue.
Do not trust the EPA estimates. Everyone seems to think that the Tucson hybrid and Rav4 hybrid get better mpg, wrong. I have owned the 2022 Tucson for 10 months and my brother owns the Rav4 for about 6 months. In 11000 miles of driving in Las Vegas I average 30 mpg and he averages 34 mpg. My 0-60 is almost 10 seconds. So this CR-V is a hell of a lot better. Oh, and my Tucson was $42,000. What a rip off.
I like it alot.. I like that Honda isnt trying to kil you on price.. even tho 38k is alot. For what it has and offers .. it is perfect for me in flat hot Florida - I dont need it to climb a cliff or go through the Sahara at 120 MPH.
I would love to see this... Toyota is really skilled at building larger vehicles with tiny interior dimensions and questionable ergonomics. It's a wonder, actually.
@@NukePooch1 Major competitors are building cars that cater specifically to American and Canadian sized people. Since the introduction of Toyota New Global Architecture with the Prius in 2016, Toyota seems to be aiming at a globalized, one size fits all model that will cost them customers in the long run. The new Prius has accelerated this shrinking with ludicrous reductions in headroom and cargo volume. The Crown has less headroom than a Camry and a smaller trunk.
Rav4 provides adequate leg and head room for my 6 foot frame up front. Adults fit comfortably in rear if front seats moved up a smidge. Cargo room 69 cu ft very good especially for for 182 inch long vehicle (less then new CRV). Yes TNGA is a bit smaller but new Rav4 opted for less rear leg room for large cargo area (which I personally prefer)
@@James-il3tq Not adequate for me. I have more headroom in the 2022 Corollas than in the 2022 RAV4s (work fleet)...both of which are incredibly uncomfortable for me to be in (especially in passenger side front of RAV4). I am 6'3", yet have inches more headroom in my Honda Fit then in pretty much any current Toyota shy of the Sequoia/Tundra/Sienna.
Honda didn't put their A-game for this new generation CR-V. It still lacks features from what other competitors is offering and it's the most expensive entry compact SUV in the segment at $32k. You will pay more to get less with Honda. Although their rival Toyota Rav4 is getting a little dated in exterior styling, at least they are paying attention what's on demand in features and technology. And for the life of me, why Honda offers a full digital cluster on the Civic and a 12.3 inch infotainment on the new 2023 Accord. But the new CR-V gets a half digital cluster, while both the new Pilot and CR-V gets a 9 inch infotainment screen? It's the inconsistency of technology and features, that will have Millenials and Gen Z buyers take notice when they are cross-shopping for their families. The only one that really don't care about all of that, is Honda brand loyalists that are Baby Boomers and Gen X.
@@allentoyokawa9068 If you think $32k is fine for entry price when other competitors has hybrid options at an affordable price, then YOU are the problem...CLOWN! 🤡
I think they are trying to copy Toyota because the first thing I thought when I saw the new cr-v is it looks a lot like the Rav4 but not as stylish. I guess the cr-v's new body style is already dated.
Another issue buyers should note: no spare tire in the hybrid. Not necessarily a show stopper, but it's important to be aware of that.
So I ended up buying AAA membership.
I owned my Escape for 7 years, found out yesterday the supplied lug wrench doesn’t fit the lug nuts. I bought the CRV today 🎉
@@kk12181 Or... Honda offers 3-year roadside assistance for free with the purchase of the CRV hybrid (Touring, at least).
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I didn’t know this. Mine is Sport. Not Sport Touring.
Thanks for letting me know!
@@kk12181 You're in Death Valley,have a blowout which chews the rim up. It happens all the time. You're out of cell range and you're screwed. Why does a $38K vehicle not have even a space saver spare? Lame. I'd buy one in a second otherwise.
I got my 2023 CRV 9 days ago and I already get 48 MPG in combined driving...In only city I get 51 MPG. so I am very happy with this car..way better than advertised mileage--- wow and great car!
Excellent fuel economy, are you a hypermiler?
I got my 23 crv hybrid,8 days ago,12 hundred on clock,29mpg.
Did you drive down hill,all the time.?
what is the market now? Did you pay below, above, or at MSRP? I want to buy a new car but am not in hurry to pay above MSRP. Thanks for your input.
What speed you driving at to get those miles? 20mph? And only counting downhill? I find it really hard to believe... Please prove me wrong because I do want to get the CRV hybrid
@@nounta1016 From 76 to 25 mph. Perfectly normal driving. I drive for Lyft in fact n get from 47 to 51 mpg. I’m surprised as anyone. With a heavy foot tooo
I know you know your stuff, but it’s actually not a CVT transmission in this vehicle. It’s what they call an E-CVT which differs from a regular CVT transmission. As you probably know, a CVT transmission uses belts and pulleys where an E-CVT uses electric motors to control an infinite number of gear ratios based on its “smarts”, example; road conditions and driver input.
Anyway. Enjoyed the video nonetheless. 🙂
Bought one today. It may not be 0-60 speedy, but I also own a CRV touring of the previous model and this new one feels much quicker putting around town because the low end torque from the electrics is notably quicker to respond, especially in sport.
Honda really does a disservice to itself by calling the transmission an eCVT. Personally I had written this vehicle off as I can't stand traditional belt CVT transmissions, no matter who builds it, due longevity issues. THIS CRV, on the hand, is NOT a traditional belt CVT which I found out after looking into Honda's Hybrid drive system. The system in this is all GEAR DRIVEN with a few clutch packs, though is does drive and fell like a CVT due to the dual motor setup at city speeds. I get why they call it a "CVT" but they are loosing potential customers by doing so. After driving a demo, I ordered one, and can't wait for it to arrive. 100% agree with "buttons and knobs", one of the many reason this mid 40's guy chose this over others in the class.
With that transmission, for best acceleration, you’re not supposed to slam the pedal to the metal. The transmission is not slipping, but it’s not accelerating as efficiently as when you press the pedal 1/2 way or 3/4 way.
It’s counter-intuitive and I don’t know why it is so, but that’s just the way some transmissions are, and it seems to be the case here.
Sometimes you’re better off at peak torque, not peak power for around town driving.
We just picked up ours. I bought it 9mths ago completely blind since not even the nonhybrid was yet available. We have had 2 previous ones and had complete faith on what is a legendarily good, solid, reliable car.
Let's be frank, compared to an 8-year-old CRV (we missed the previous gen), the hybrid is a revelation, it's not better, it is superbly better in absolutely everything. It is orders of magnitude quieter. The ride is firm but supple and well controlled. Handling is superb for an SUV in this category. Driveability is also superb, not a race car, nor is it meant to be. It feels more than adequately powered in all conditions. On the highway at a steady 65 if feels as planted, quiet and composed as any Acura I've ever owned or driven, maybe even better! If you think of it as an Acura with a hybrid powertrain and a more utilitarian interior, you have the right idea. The exterior design is modern and elegant, without a doubt, the best looking CRV EVER. The interior design follows the same rules, perfect fit and finish with great design but more utilitarian than sumptous. The controls are PERFECT. Wonderful knobs, buttons and displays that are of positive feel and high tactile quality. The cloth seats are comfortable and spacious front and back. The CRV virtue of space for passengers and cargo with aplomb is here in spades. This a spectacularly fine car that belies its price in every dimension. I have driven a contemporary RAV 4, quite frankly, its not even worth comparing them, they seem to be in totally different categories. The RAV can barely "hang" with an HRV, here its not even a competitor.
Nice comment. Reminded me of reading a military fitness report. We love our CR-V as well.
Just bought one and will be picking it up in two days, thanks for the positive review.
TFL just doesn't get it. The hybrid does not have a CVT. It has a two-motor hybrid system, sometimes called an eCVT. Has not belts or bands like a regular CVT. They keep screwing this up!!!
That may be so, but it sounds awful at WOT! Ugh!
@@eleanormassaro5195 Yes, that's the engine making that noise.
Alex on Autos is the only one who clearly tells that.
Honestly their truck channel is cool but they really just glaze over these car reviews.
@@eleanormassaro5195 exactly why I’m considering a Hyundai Tucson instead. It actually gets a 6 speed transmission, this CRV sounds like a hair dryer at WOT
I have gotten 7.3 seconds 0 to 60 on Econ mode. It sounds like a pure EV. I think the economy mode is quicker. This is a major upgrade from 2022.
Couple factors to consider though. We don’t know how much juice the hybrid battery had in it and they are 1 mile above sea level.
Why would the Economy mode be quicker than Sport mode for example?
Man, am I with you on the tactile feedback. I miss that so much, and Honda was always the best at switch feel.
Am I the only one who’s fine with the smaller screen? The bigger screens in economy cars always look cheesy and just slapped on. I’ll take a smaller screen and higher quality any day
Same. Watching the video, my first thought was yeah I'm fine with a 7-in screen.
9” is the sweet spot for the screens
Love that they took the climate controls out of the infotainment system. My biggest complaint of the last gen.
Im with you I like the switchs and knobs for commonly used itens.
Hybrids should have been the 'next step'. That would've increased mpg and not be susceptible to the issues currently have (bad range for towing, drastic range loss in extreme cold that much of the US sees in winter). Then the EVs could be rolled out more after the next gen batteries address the weight/range issue (and supply issues for materials)
Agree however hybrids also suffer from poor towing range. My 2019 Rav4 hybrid gets 40mpg but under 20mpg towing @ 70mph.
@@James-il3tq you dont have low towing range...
Exactly. Despite Teslas success, all manufactures cannot jump on the EV train all at once. The electrical grid, and charge station are still a long way from being able to support it. As far as I know, they've not even implement standard power plugs in new homes and building construction. Building that infrastructure is still at least 2 decades away.
Absolutely agree. Toyota’s hybrids have been extremely reliable, really good power (except Prius) and of course fantastic fuel economy. The fact that my coworkers 21 Camry hybrid that drives as hard as a teenager gets 42mpg is incredible.
@@James-il3tq My 4Runner doesn't even get 20 mpg at 70 mph unladen, haha, so 20 mpg is great while towing. And you can extend your "towing range" with a 5 minute fuel stop, so it doesn't really matter.
I ordered one of these that came in yesterday. After looking at it in person I came back home in my 2020 touring. This new one doesn’t come with HomeLink to open my garage door. It also went back to having to get in to the backseat in order to drop the seats. My 2020 has convenient handles that I can just pull to drop the seat from the rear. I did enjoy my test drive, but I expect more from the top of the line. I don’t know why they would take away things that they had before. In addition my current car isn’t a hybrid and includes a spare tire. I’ve had Hondas since they were introduced in the 70s, but I might be done with them if they’re going backwards with convenience. I see they offer a mirror to upgrade to HondaLink, but with the top trim that shouldn’t be an add on.
Yeah the lack of Home Link was a major dissapointment when we brought ours home. Never even considered that the top model would not open garage doors. But I can replace the mirror with the Home Link model for under $200, and with everthing else we're very happy with it. So I'm not going to sweat another $200. But it is pretty stupid that it doesn't come with the car.
I have this model on order, have test-driven it, and viewed countless reviews. Yours was not only truly informative, but it was FUN to watch. I have had 7 leased high-end Accords in a row, 5 with V6s and the last 2 with the 2.0/10 speed drivetrain. I wanted to get the all new Accord, but that choice has been eliminated by the purely unnecessary 3+" Honda added to the car...which makes it 1" too long for my garage. End of story. I will miss the fantastic power in my Touring Accord (C & D sez 0-60 in 5.4) but, since the new Accord and CRV have the same engine and electric motors, the 8 fewer inches in vehicle length make this a no-brainer if I want to stick with Honda, which I do. The CRV is noticeably quieter than my 2020 Accord on coarse pavement, and cornered better than I expected...not like Accord, but very little body roll. The CRV is quite a bit slowER, but it's not truly slow. Besides, I'm getting old and should slow down! The Sport Touring CRV should have included the HUD display and ventilated seats I have in my Touring Accord. SIDEBAR: I love what I've seen about the 2023 Accord and I love C & D, but I think the new Accord doesn't deserve the 10 Best Selection this time around. Simply put, not enough performance and a big stepdown from the 2 liter turbo/10 speed. PLUS I just learned the Accord Hybrid octane recommendation is 91, not 87. Ugh.
dear sir, i knew you are a very meticulous person....
if i can be half as good as you with my evos and subies....
So shouldn't the CRV have the same Octane 91 recommendation since they both have the same engine and batteries according to you?
The whole 91 octane is a non-issue every one is using regular 87 octane with zero issues.
Your acceleration issue is as bad as Tommy’s slip test fail issue in the previous video. I really wanted to like this new CRV but those two things are a big fail. Thanks for being the channel that points the negatives out as well as the positives!
Don't forget the massive price increase with this redesign (approaching Lexus NX prices) that makes it uncompetitive in its class.
Nathan, does your slow acceleration issue have to do with altitude? Several other YT auto journalists got much faster numbers at or near seal level at the new model reveal.
@@martinferreira1666 They have in the past stated that altitude robs NA motors of quite abit of power. And I believe that can be a factor where they are based. Although I would think the electric motor should help with some of that. I need to get around to watching Tommy's slip test so I can decide for myself if the AWD system is any good or not.
@@martinferreira1666 - they always take the altitude into account. The altitude is a big factor in NA motors and affects Turbocharged engines about 15%. The electric motor certainly could have a bit of a factor reducing quite so prominent of a difference, but I think it’s only 40 hp (I could be wrong on that, but it’s close). Honda has been less than impressive in this category for a while. They had engine issues not very long ago as well. The vast majority are perfect mechanically of course, but more than a normal quantity of CRVs definitely were a problem.
Not for me, neither is the Toyota hybrid AWD. I like that there’s a plug in hybrid with Toyota, but I much prefer the set up in my wife’s Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe, same with the Wrangler 4xe she had before that. The motor and power is the same to all 4 wheels. They did quite well in the slip test and are amazing when it comes to acceleration. If getting into the class of the RAV4 and CRV I would choose a Toyota with just the 2.5 litre & AWD. To each their own of course so I drive trucks!!! 😂😂 and classic vehicles!! We also have a 2022 Mercedes 4x4 Thor van conversion. It’s a very nice way to cover the miles! Stop have a meal, maybe nap, and then keep on going.
I had a Tahoe Premier DuraMax, which was 1 or 2 too many new vehicles, so have sold it for very near what I paid for it. It cost me about $1,000 CAD to drive it for 5 months and 5500km. Not too bad. A friend bought it & they have a family of 6. They are ecstatic about getting it! Oh yeah,, I put all new Michelin winter tires on it as well.
There’s an almost unlimited amount of choice out there!!
I appreciate your thorough response. However I'm nearing retirement age and plan on buying and keeping an economic and relibale vehicle for a long time. Plan on doing lots of car camping while visiting our National Parks etc. IMO a hybrid vehicle makes the most sense. Both the RAV4 and CR-V are rated at or near 40 / 35mpgs and have mostly stellar reliability. I would consider Mazda and Subaru but they do not offer hybrid variants as of yet (Crosstrek PHEV is available in some markets but it's too pricey). Mazda is rumored to be working on a CX-50 and upcoming CX-70 hybrids. Several YT reviewers I trust (Alex on A, Kirk K, Matt Maran and Sofyan) have all given the CR-V Hybrid high marks however I have not yet road tested it myself. Happy New Year everyone. Cheers!
The target market for this likely doesn’t care about having extra “power”. The lack of a spare tire is strange and wasn’t noted in the video.
Why is everybody making such a big deal out of the spare? Do some research and see how many vehicles on the market today have repair kits rather than spares. You people act like this is something unique to the CR-V. And personally, the kits make more sense for 99% of the situations I might find myself in.
@@jreagins1 when is a kit easier than swapping a tire?
We have the 2023 Sport-Hybrid with no spare. I can count on one hand the number of times I needed a spare tire in 50 years of driving. The car comes with a 12 volt tire pump in a compartment in the rear as a backup along with tire sealant.
There is no spare tire because the battery lives there.
We have had a 2012 crv since new as my wife's daily driver. We love it and the 2.4l is bullet proof provided you do regular maintenance including a valve adjustment every 100k miles. Honda can keep the augmented sport mode, ours is pretty fast (much faster than this new model) 0-60 and the gas mileage is about the same with a LARGER naturally aspirated engine. It seems Honda changed over to a smaller turbo with no significant increase in mileage, that was dumb. We would absolutely consider a new one but wouldn't expect it to last as long as our current model.
Small plus turbo does really well on the EPA mileage test. Same with the engine stop/start systems. Optimized for the test, not for real life (mine at least).
We have a 2009 CR-V that we bought new, we now have 185,000 miles. This has been the most reliable vehicle we have ever owned, even more reliable than the Toyotas we have owned. Only one issue and that’s the sucky air conditioner.
@@stuartstuart866 I had to replace the compressor on my 08. Has been working great since
The hybrid version is not turbocharged.
The gage sweep is part of a masterclear/circuit and lamp check type program, done every time a modern computerized doodad starts up.
I wish they mixed this CRV with the Passport. They have to be able to combine the two. The CRV with legitimate umph and transmission would be perfect.
Thats just a honda pilot
His contempt for a vehicle that is going to be used as commuter by most buyers is mind numbing. “It has a slow 0-60 time” it’s a box on wheels. “It has meh mpg” again, it’s a box on wheels. Its what you get when you’re afraid to get an Accord because everyone else thinks they need a vehicle larger than a WW2 tank to go to Costco.
I would buy a accord. but the dash sucks.
I just test drive this Honda. Coming from a Toyota Tacoma 4 cylinder without power,.. this was REALLY FUN! It’s all perspective 😃
This has everything I want but I would pick RAV4 for better cargo space before folding down rear seats which I try to avoid having to do. Acceleration is not a turn off. I drive a Prius now and have no problem passing cars and I probably drive faster than most people on the road.
I don't get how these car journalists put so much emphasis on acceleration, 0 to 60 times as if that's the number one selling point! I'm with you, I have no problem passing in my accord
@@lpete531 They should show how maneuverable it is in a crowded Costco parking lot, that has a lot more relevance to most CRV buyers.
CRV has more cargo space with seats up than the Rav4 does. 37.6 v. 39.3. cubic feet
@@ronn9853 this TFL video says cr-v has 36 cubic feet.
Supposedly, the RAV4 has tons more cargo space than a CX-5 with the seats up. Well, earlier this year my wife got rear ended in our 2021 CX-5. The rental we had while it was getting fixed was an AWD RAV4. During this period we took a longer trip and had to load up for four people. My wife complained that the RAV4 had less space before I told her it technically had more. She said "no, it doesn't". RAV4 does have more passenger room. Much of the cargo space measured is the space from the top of the rear seats and up and not used most of the time. Put stuff there and you cannot see out of the rear view mirror. From the top of the rear seats on down, I see very little difference in the cargo volume. Regarding other storage spaces, the CR-V and RAV4 are far ahead of the CX-5.
Just looked at this car yesterday. I am seriously considering, however there is a big BUT I wish you had mentioned. It lacks a spare tire! It might be a deal breaker for me and other people
^this
We have the 2023 Sport-Hybrid with no spare. I can count on one hand the number of times I needed a spare tire in 50 years of driving. The car comes with a 12 volt tire pump as a backup along with tire sealant.
@@stevekeyes9402 I agree. I have only installed a spare tire once in the last 30 years.
@@stevekeyes9402 I had to replace a flat twice in the last 6 years... I might be unlucky... anyway it's a personal preference, I was just leaving this info here for others since he didn't mention it in the video. I just can't stomach the possibility (even if remote) of being stuck on a road trip with a flat that can't be sealed..
Be forever happy and buy a RAV-4!
Hopefully most viewers by now have found out that the transmission in this car is not a true CVT. It's not a CVT at all, even though Honda markets it as such.
the extruded volume button is really convenient during driving. I wish android player to have this kind of extruded button instead of touch button for volume control.
Just a note that Front Wheel Drive CR-V hybrids are total unicorns. You may be able to order them, but none are on dealer lots.
You did not adequately describe the hybrid CR-V's transmission - you called it a CVT, but it is NOT a CVT in any meaningful sense of the word. Though Honda calls it "eCVT", there are no belts involved with transmission of power to the wheels. Everything is solid state.
That thing sounds like my grandpa’s pontoon boat with an Evinrude outboard.
"That thing doesn't sound as good as my grandpa’s pontoon boat with an Evinrude outboard." Fixed it for you. 🙂
Consider mazda cx5, and maybe it will put a smile on you while accelerating and how it pulls when driving uphill😊
Maxda still uses a 6 speed gear box and better motors then this tiny over boosted oil burning/oil dilution turd.
Was heat/AC turned off? We need an apples to apples understanding - when the power to the wheels is electric and we are draining the electric (think electric heat/ ac/ fan) then the short term available power to the electric motor is choked. Would like to see acceleration figures every accessory off as well...like in Kirk K's review of the CRV-Hybrid - dramatic difference...also, as pointed out below, cold makes a difference to the battery as well.
The 12 volt system powers the heating and cooling - like a conventional CRV. The LiIon battery is reserved for power only
I have complaints with the new model, which I may be alone in thinking. I had a '18 crv ex and now have a '22 accord touring hybrid. I would love to go back to CRV however the top trim is still missing ventilated seats, heated rear seats, and they even got rid of the side levers to drop the rear seats from the hatch. I understand these are considered luxury to most but not to me. Why should I only be able to go from a hybrid sedan that gets about 50 mpg to a v6 3 row suv, Pilot, that gets 23 mpg combined in order to keep top trim features. There is no middle ground anymore. Toyota at least spreads the love throughout their models, even the new top trim prius has more features than the crv. I'm a Honda lover so I won't be going anywhere, its just frustrating. Sure I could move up to Acura but why should I? If the RDX can have these things, a CRV can
44 mpg in town on my Sport L. I’m in love. It’s smooth and it can get out of its own way.
Couldn’t care less about screen size. Why car reviewers obsess on this fact is beyond me. The CRV is a Civic on stilts….so it handles well too.
Traded in an MDX and honestly it’s a vast improvement in terms of efficiency and comfort. 👏👏Honda.
I don't know what you're doing wrong with that 0-60 measurement, but the hybrid CR-V does 0-60 in about 7.6 seconds. Did you have your left foot on the break?
In Colorado you will loose power due to elevation
The trunk is big because of the way it’s measured.
The window line is high, the cover is high as well. The volume is calculated up till the cover.
So without the cover the story becomes as exciting as CR-V’s AWD 😂
Have a good day everyone ✌️ Nathan 👏👏👏
I wish it had a 360 camera and a panoramic roof for that price point, but everything is a compromise.
Ventilated seats as well
Good vid. You forgot to mention the fact that there is no place to stow a spare tire if you like me, decided to buy spare tire and throw it in the trunk! It is annoying the hella of me that Honda don't even think about at least create a space to put it in if they decided to NOT giving spare tire!
We have the 2023 Sport-Hybrid with no spare. I can count on one hand the number of times I needed a spare tire in 50 years of driving. The car comes with a 12 volt tire pump in a compartment in the rear as a backup along with tire sealant.
@@stevekeyes9402 Exactly, you can only count on one hand, but you do still can count on your one hand! That is my point of why you should have a back up. Because if you live in a remote area like me and your main tire just fubar, it is a difference between going to the next town and to stay at the side of the road and spent the night there!
There is no spare tire because that's where the battery lives.
The volume knob is there because the previous touch volume was terrible and most reviewers complained about it.
If you did this review in Colorado you at around 5000 feet above sea level. There is a power loss when you the far above sea level. I live about 1000 feet above sea level. Where I live in Canada the list is $51K plus several other costs
I haven't watched this channel in such a long time. I missed hearing your voice Nathan.
And I also just bought one yesterday, I pick it up on monday..
I have taken both the 2022 and the 2023 Honda CRV ( non-hybrid) for a test drive, and there is a major improvement in quality, comfort, and esae of use for the infotainment screen. It is much better than the previous model and is on my list of possible furure pirchase, along with the Toyota Rav4 and the Subaru outback. Whilr the Mazda CX-50 was part of my original considerstion and has some nice features, heads-up display, I hated the infotainment, which uses a rotary dial instead of a touch screen.
Check the Sportage hybrid. You won’t look back
@@ffsolutions9442 kia? 🤣
@@ffsolutions9442 II may have considered it, but the reliability of Hyundai/Kia iis poor. Their engines fail and could possibly catch on fire. It will be many years before I can trust them.
@@jaimieconroy36 The engine issues only apply to the 2.5l in the US. That`s why I said, look into the hybrid, as it has the European powertrain and I already owned the previous gen with the same 1.6l Turbo and it has been dead reliable and no issues reported with it for 60k miles over 3 years of ownership. Its now with a new and happy owner as we bought the new gen. The hybrid also has a 6 speed torque converter which is very robust and smooth, without any dual-clutch jerkiness. I also did some mild offroading last weekend and the car did not slip a tire, climbing entirely on battery and when the engine was running, which was about 50% of the time on a 4 mile course, it seems like it was running as a generator to just add more power into the battery which was the main source for controlled movement. I hope the hybrid becomes more popular in the US overall as it is their bets powertrain at the moment, and it also helps them improve on the reputation after the 2.5l issues.
@@ffsolutions9442 Until the engine blows up or it catches itself on fire...
Our 2022 CRV Hybrid gets 43mpg in around town driving and long range journeys (sorry no trips to mountain states).
is it FWD or AWD though? Most people getting those good numbers are FWD only unfortunately
@@gmfitzg the hybrid is AWD only but as I understand it uses FWD for normal driving. not 100% sure on this - just my understanding. The mpg is currently exactly 42.8 - the transition from gas power to electric while driving is super smooth. the car has been and remains worry free.
My CR-V Hybrid Touring is on order. Hoping to get mid-February. I looked at all the competition and this was my heads up favorite. I’m selling my 2011 Subaru Forester (which I’ve loved) for this one. I wish Subaru would get better gas mileage on their top of the line Forester and I would’ve considered it. But Mazda, Toyota, and Kia did not match up to this in my opinion.
I got lucky, today I waled into to a Bay Area Honda dealer and they found one in my color, red Hybrid AWD Sport - it was on its way from the manufacturer to LA and will get shipped from there to the Bay Area and be here in 4-5 days. The new CRV is fantastic.
Ok, so we bought one of these. A sport touring hybrid in the dark grey color. We are in Texas. We bought the CRV late December, so at the time of this comment it's about 3 months old. The hybrid battery has already gone out and needs to be replaced. It's currently at the dealership for the next 5 days while they order and install it. Oh, and no loaner vehicle available because our local dealership only has 2 and they're both taken. Very disappointed.
How is it going now? Any additional issues?
@@sbg3189 We just weren't happy overall with the Honda and indeed up selling it back and bought a Tesla Model Y which I am VERY happy about.
Yeah, Honda's the best ergonomics but the AWD system didn't do well on Tommy's test.
Come to ND and I will give you a real test with snow and cold.
Why make a vehicle with low profile tires (prone to pot hole sidewall splitting) and not have a spare tire? Honda should have put 17" rims on the hybrids, not 19" rims.
Would it hurt sales if the window sticker showed a (more accurate) combined MPG of 32, for this Hybrid? This CRv has been out long enough that buyers are posting actual MPG and it's between 11% and 20 % less than advertised, maxing out at 35.5 on a good day, not 43.
Now in all fairness...your issue only occurs if you brake torque it. If you just step on the accelerator pedal, it mimics shifting and sounds normal to most drivers expectations. Toyota hybrids always whine by comparison.
Also, I wish reviewers would stop saying it has a CVT. It does NOT have a traditional CVT with belts and pulleys varying ratios. In most situations it has a gas engine driving a generator that then powers the traction electric motor that drives the wheels. So it is more like drving an electric vehicle. It does have a low and high range lockup where the gas engine does also drive the wheels.
I love the "B"mode which makes deceleration natural and helps regain battery charge. The amount of regen can be changed easily using the + and - paddles on the steering wheel.
Under normal day to day driving, this CRV Hybrid is extremely quiet, smooth and a pleasure to drive.
Not supposed to be class leading MPG. It has a mechanical AWD unlike the rave 4's electric AWD.
How Is the Honda Direct Injection Engine (DIE) compared with Hyundai/KIAs that are failing in catastrophic numbers? Apples and Oranges comparison perhaps but how's Honda when it comes to longevity?
I've followed Honda for a long time and knew that as soon as they first showed off the 2023 CRV earlier this year. It was going to have the same power trains despite being a larger and heavier vehicle. It's honestly lucky the mpg hasn't suffered as well.
The hybrid has increased lb ft of torque hence increased power
The engine/ecvt has been redesigned for smoother performance
I sincerely don't understand why so many reviewers love a shift knob rather than pushbutton transmission. I've driven an Acura RDX for 4 years with pushbuttons and it is far superior. I especially like that it shifts into park when I turn off the engine. Since the shift lever is only really activating electrical switches I find a shift lever to be as unnecessary as using a lever that size to control the fan speed or temperature.
Can someone please talk about the spare tire situation? It's all fun and games until you're stranded in the middle of the night without a spare
I think the Hybrid has NO spare tire!
@@chrisb9478 that's what I'm saying sir
That's a deal killer for sure. My BMW has what they call a no flat tire that you can drive on if it has a puncture. I regret it though. On some surfaces that tire makes allot of road noise. Just had to replace one and they are very expensive. Over 500 dollars for one. Yikes. BMW makes them with spares as well. If I could go back I'd get one with a spare.
@@HiPlains1 I have the 2021 crv hybrid, and do you know how stupid you look explaining to someone helping you out with a flat in the middle of the night that your brand new $40k car has no spare tire?
@@TobiHamed apparently it was because the current gen did not have space for the battery since it came out b4 the hybrid. But they should use no flat tires instead of a gimmicky can of air which probably won't work anyways lol. I'm surprised this is even legal. Yeah that would be embarrassing. They should just mount the spare on the rear door like they did with the second gen. Which was their best CRV they ever made.
I just bought one. High on the list is to go to the junkyard and grab a donut tire and jack that will fit so I can keep them in the back. Slightly annoying that it doesn’t come with that I guess.
There is NO CVT in the Honda hybrid system. The electric motor powers the front wheels directly up to a certain speed (around 45 to 50 I think). At highway speeds the ICE takes over and directly powers the wheels at a set ratio comparable to a 6th gear. For reasons unknown Honda calls it an eCVT but there is NO transmission. There are many video available that explain this.
Yes it would be fun with the 2.0L turbo. I am buying the sport touring, thought it was fairly quick in sport mode.
The acceleration time is nearer to 7.5 secs. TFL times are always slow
AFAIK, it is 2.0 NA engine.
I like the knobs also. have the volume knob on my 2023 Santa Fe Calligraphy. I like the button transmission, different strokes for different folks. I like the 0-60 times on the Santa Fe.
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To sum up Roman‘s review of Honda CRV hybrid. Compared to dodge demon Toyota Prius is slower but the up side is that it’s also more quiet and saves more gas.
15yrs ago every limited suv of this size would boast a 300hp v6 that lasted forever
Nowadays we upgraded to whats the voltage you running on your vehicle.😂😂
Ugh 220..😂😂😂
This was resolved nearly a year ago on this and other sites by me. I got a personal note from the editor in chief of CARandDRIVER that it was a typo on their part in an early CRV review.
Seems like a lot of steps both forward and back. On one hand the aesthetics are a bit nicer, the phone spot is actually big enough to hold a modern phone, and there's a towing capacity now... on the other hand, they made the already-chunky CR-V have a bigger footprint and mass, which also slows it down, and furthermore the thing is silly expensive now. And honestly, while the interface upgrade for the centre console is welcome, I would kind of miss the digital-forward feel of the previous generation's dashboard.
I am waiting for you to build cars.
I need help with Road noise on passenger seats.
Mazda CX5 Turbo Signature vs Honda Sports L Hybrid AWD?
Which has better sound deadening?
I owned a 2018 Civic Touring, with 1.5 liter. engine. great car but in winter 1.5 was not enough to warm up the interior when it was -20 Celsius outside and this is a regular winter temperature in Canada. Small-volume CR-V engines were the only reason why I didn’t buy a Honda.
Nice review - love Nathan's honesty!
That is a gorgeous gear lever!
Not a cheap knob…. Like a Jeep or crappy buttons …. Looking at you Honda!!
Lowering the volume by twisting a knob?! Honda's really out here innovating
It's called being logical when Hyundai and VW are putting in slideypads
This or the Venza? which do you like more? I wish there were more comparisons for the two..
Why did Honda have to decide to put exhaust tips in the front? I just can’t get over that. Maybe they’ll change that in a mid cycle refresh.
They always screw it up with something, wished the horse power was at least 220 ish instead 202, considering that you have 247 lb ft of torque, it would have sold like crazy
I like the knob on the radio, on the other hand if I were in a accident not sure if my eye socket would miss that sticking out or not. I like the fake fog light area..indicating that something that isn't there should be but it ain't even an option because they opted out without a vote from the people. Last time I was in a ford it dropped the transmission at 36.000 miles.. not kidding. so Ill take the CVT please.
It's not a CVT, Honda just calls it "E-CVT" because apparently they like confusing people. At urban driving speeds, it's basically operated like an EV with a weak battery, and power supplied by an onboard petrol generator when needed. The engine only gets used like an engine on fast roads or highway speeds - it used to be only at like 100mph on the original CR-V hybrid but the new design adds a second speed to the parallel-drive clutch.
"Sounds like an unhappy Cuisinart" 😂 that was funny
Kudos for the volume KNOB!!!!!!!!
What color was this one? I have the canyon river blue on order but may like this one better.
Sounded like an old school vacuum cleaner when you pinned it. lol
What are some of you folks averaging in your CRV Hybrid for gas mileage on the highway? Just curious - I've seen some people complain that it's quite a bit worse than they expected.
well Alex on Auto's tested it couple yrs ago and when going up and down a mere few K's feet elevation, it's pretty bad
It needs the 2.0Liter Turbo or another 50hp for the Hybrid & a better Awd system before I’d buy one. We’ll stick with our Outback XT. 😎
The CRV doesn't compete with Outback. The CRV competes with thw Forester
@@Blank00 I know that
Why don’t you get RDX
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Even the base RDX is more expensive & smaller than our loaded Touring XT.
Your Outback XT is far away from 50 Mpg
I have Honda 2023 Sport, I hear wind noise over 80kmph. It's fine below 70kmph
Headphone warning - geez - control the volume people
The loss of the base models will be a problem for Honda as interest rates skyrocket.
Higher interest rates increases payment differentials for options/higher trims. Since there is no lesser trimmed CRV, customers will have to go elsewhere to get a vehicle with payments they will qualify for.
Only couple of g's in price separated the base LX model with the next trim level EX model. If that little difference in price is disqualifying anyone then they are buying too much car to begin with.
There are numerous problems with the new CR-V that are hard to overlook: missing features on the top trim, poor acceleration, poor hybrid fuel economy, and poor AWD system. The thing that really bothers me is that the CR-V doesn't get the digital driver display that the Civic and Accord have nor does it get the 12.3" infotainment display the Accord gets
Meaning to say. Its better Toyota Rav4 2023 than Honda Crv 2023?
Only the exterior design is outstanding but
- No panoramic roof
- No fog lights
- No spare tire
- No rear seat folding button
Deal breaker.
@@allentoyokawa9068 stop being so rude!😡
-so what
-so what
-so what
-so what
Man, how come nobody talks about the biggest issue with the Honda CR-V? The front seats don't go back far enough. Even at only 6 feet with long legs I can't get into a comfortable driving position in my girlfriend's CR-V. I can't even fully extend my legs while riding in the passenger seat. Most of the other vehicles in this class go back much farther and they don't kill my knees on long drives. Even the bigger Passport doesn't go back far enough. Just put longer seat rails in Honda! We tried the 2023s cause they were supposed to be a bit bigger, but they still have the same issue.
CVT? or eCVT? There's a huge difference between them.
Driven by the electric motor which Honda calls eCVT. There is no transmission at all.
How will it do in mountain driving in snow? Need to move on be from my dear Subaru here in Truckee Ca
Wow, that sound during WOT was very disturbing.
@@allentoyokawa9068 now, now let's keep it nice.
Mall haulers don’t care about fun. I however agree with you
Do not trust the EPA estimates. Everyone seems to think that the Tucson hybrid and Rav4 hybrid get better mpg, wrong. I have owned the 2022 Tucson for 10 months and my brother owns the Rav4 for about 6 months. In 11000 miles of driving in Las Vegas I average 30 mpg and he averages 34 mpg. My 0-60 is almost 10 seconds. So this CR-V is a hell of a lot better. Oh, and my Tucson was $42,000. What a rip off.
I love to push buttons!!! Thank you Honda. I have had 3 CRVs in my life.
Love Nathan's reviews
If you want a fast/fun car....buy a Corvette/Mustang. If you want a mid-priced people moving SUV, don't expect it to perform like a race car.
I like it alot.. I like that Honda isnt trying to kil you on price.. even tho 38k is alot. For what it has and offers .. it is perfect for me in flat hot Florida - I dont need it to climb a cliff or go through the Sahara at 120 MPH.
Only if you can get it at that price, being sold for 43k at least by dealership mark up, the last place I went, I was told 45k in PA
Can it handle going up a hill?
man 0-60 under 9 sec is a real breaker.
I think his test was flawed. Other people have recorded a much faster 0 -60 without being in sport mode.
Hybrid battery can cost upto $8K. So, you get a saving then after 8 years you have to buy a new battery or get rid of the CRV.
Nathan, I hope the next RAV4 can match the CR-V's generous interior dimensions.
I would love to see this... Toyota is really skilled at building larger vehicles with tiny interior dimensions and questionable ergonomics. It's a wonder, actually.
@@NukePooch1 Major competitors are building cars that cater specifically to American and Canadian sized people. Since the introduction of Toyota New Global Architecture with the Prius in 2016, Toyota seems to be aiming at a globalized, one size fits all model that will cost them customers in the long run. The new Prius has accelerated this shrinking with ludicrous reductions in headroom and cargo volume. The Crown has less headroom than a Camry and a smaller trunk.
Rav4 provides adequate leg and head room for my 6 foot frame up front. Adults fit comfortably in rear if front seats moved up a smidge. Cargo room 69 cu ft very good especially for for 182 inch long vehicle (less then new CRV). Yes TNGA is a bit smaller but new Rav4 opted for less rear leg room for large cargo area (which I personally prefer)
@@James-il3tq Not adequate for me. I have more headroom in the 2022 Corollas than in the 2022 RAV4s (work fleet)...both of which are incredibly uncomfortable for me to be in (especially in passenger side front of RAV4). I am 6'3", yet have inches more headroom in my Honda Fit then in pretty much any current Toyota shy of the Sequoia/Tundra/Sienna.
@@NukePooch1 The last genuine Toyota Yaris sold here had more headroom than today's RAV4.
People buy hybrids for the mpg. Could you guys comment on that?
I did mention MPG…
Incredible fuel economy and impressively quick! 💨
Nobody will be using “ Sport mode” in a soccer mom mover. 🙈
8.0/10 ✅
Amazing 👍
Can it go EV only for a certain range?
Honda didn't put their A-game for this new generation CR-V. It still lacks features from what other competitors is offering and it's the most expensive entry compact SUV in the segment at $32k. You will pay more to get less with Honda. Although their rival Toyota Rav4 is getting a little dated in exterior styling, at least they are paying attention what's on demand in features and technology. And for the life of me, why Honda offers a full digital cluster on the Civic and a 12.3 inch infotainment on the new 2023 Accord. But the new CR-V gets a half digital cluster, while both the new Pilot and CR-V gets a 9 inch infotainment screen? It's the inconsistency of technology and features, that will have Millenials and Gen Z buyers take notice when they are cross-shopping for their families. The only one that really don't care about all of that, is Honda brand loyalists that are Baby Boomers and Gen X.
@@allentoyokawa9068 If you think $32k is fine for entry price when other competitors has hybrid options at an affordable price, then YOU are the problem...CLOWN! 🤡
@@allentoyokawa9068 Don't get all defensive when I'm speaking facts! Defending mediocrity says a lot about your personality.
I think they are trying to copy Toyota because the first thing I thought when I saw the new cr-v is it looks a lot like the Rav4 but not as stylish. I guess the cr-v's new body style is already dated.