This is one of the clearest and most concise demonstrations I've seen. I had a lot of questions at the beginning but all were addressed. Thank you, I'll be constructing something similar for my current project.
I have a similar build using the XR18. In my Rack I have the; - XAir XR18 - HA6000 6-channel headphone amp - x2 ULTRALINK MS8000 microphone splitter (to create "Isolated split") - Furman M-10XE Power Conditioner I would have preferred to have the X32 Rack (because of Dante & Channel count), but due to budget and availability, I had to go with the XR18 (and I was lucky to even get that cause they were all sold out 2 hours after I purchased mine). I remember when the X32 Rack was £700 during a sale a couple years ago, and I remember thinking "I don't currently need this now, so I'm sure it will be on sale in the future". The X32 Rack is currently £1,249, and has never dropped since.
i have an X32 rack system including the headphone amp. I feed the amp inputs with the AUX (1/4 outputs) and save the 8 XLR outputs for other purposes. Simple.
Es sei erwähnt, das Dante in der Kombi mit dem DVS einiges an Latenz hinzufügt. Wer’s richtig schnell braucht nutzt dann eine zusätzliche Dantekarte an seinem Rechner (die kann dann auch 128/128 In/Outputs)
Very useful video! Just wondering what exact model of headphones amplifier from Behringer did you get before this one (i wanna avoid that model since you say is is noisy)
Thanks for all the info. It was very helpful. But I did not catch how you get all the tracks to FOH now as your splitter was only usedvanlig for drums?
Hey Michael, Danke Dir für das Video, hat mir sehr geholfen. Ich habe zwei Fragen: 1. Was für einen Router Du für dein Rack benutzt und ob Du mit diesem zufrieden bist. Ich will mir für mein Rack einen zuverlässigen Router anschaffen der auch in größeren Venues und Outdoor problemlos funktioniert. 2. Machst Du die Kabel mit Kabelbindern an der Seite des Racks auch mit dem 3M Dual Lock fest oder benutzt Du dafür etwas anderes? Vielleicht hast Du einen Tipp, beste Grüße. (:
Der Router ist ein älterer TP Link Router, das genau Model weiß ich nicht. Es ist ein regulärer WLAN Router, zufrieden bin ich schon damit. Man sollte generell bei einem solchen Rack darauf achten dass man stabiles zuverlässiges WLAN hat. Die Kabel im Rack sind mit "Cable stand offs" befestigt - sowas in der Art: www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B08RMS5H25/ref=sr_1_19
please, I want to ask. if i have a personal monitor mixer p16 and i have an analog mixer but i do not have a direct out . So what should I do ? to change from insert to direct out.
You would need either an X32 mixer or the p16i. How you get your inputs to the p16i would be the question though, maybe you can do that with a splitter...
I can easily get 6 stereo in ear mixes using the xlr outs and 1/4 inch outs on the x32 rack itself right? Do I understand it correctly that outputs(xlr) and aux outs (1/4inch) work the same way (Granting I use TRS for the 1/4 inch outs of course), just different plugs?
Absolutely, we use it now as 5 stereo IEM + LR. But keep in mind that you have 16 busses on the X32, effects involved, so with 6 st inears + 4 FX sends you reach the limit
Kuhl Mann! Is ja noch etwas platz drin für whatever. Ich könnte nicht widerstehen, Blenden zu verwenden und evtl zwischen X32 und S16 1-2 He Platz lassen
Thanks for sharing! Does Dante expansion card increases input channel of X32 rack?? Because keys are not plugged in directly on XLR input jack. Just a doubt because I'm planning to get x32 rack and Dante card only, not S16 stagebox. Thanks for helping newbies:)
And is it possible to send all 32 channels input without FX we are using for IEM to FOH via Dante?? Not the FX and gain we set for IEM only direct clean sounds of vocals and instruments??
Hi, I'm not sure I understand your question fully. A few things: - Dante does not expand your channel count. With the Dante Expansion Card in the X32 your X32 still has 32 channels. Its just a different way of getting input (or output) into the board. You can basically select for each channel (or groups of channels) if you want to use the XLR input or Dante input - you can send every Dante Input also to FOH, regardless of what you do with it in the X32. One question though, how will you get your signals into the Dante network? Do you have a dante-capable interface or a breakout box or some Dante-stagebox?
@@michaelseebass Hi, thanks for answering yeah you have cleared my first doubt thanks again! Last doubt was, is it possible to send vocals and guitars to FOH through Dante expansion card, which are plugged in X32 rack input channel through XLR cables not Dante network?
@@christothegreat1 Keyboard is played via a Macbook with Mainstage that runs Dante Virtual Soundcard, so we can plug Ethernet directly into the Macbook
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How do you not step on and damage 16 xlr cables coming into the front of this rack, or the xlr input jacks themselves? It seems like you need to manage this with some proactive protection method.
We put the rack to the back or side of the stage, where no one walks in front of the rack, so thats not really an issue. If we wanted we could put the S16 at the bottom of the rack (I prefer the power outlets there though)
och man, wenn du schon auf englisch deine Videos machen willst, dann leg dir doch wenigstens einen vernünftigen Akzent zu.... and learn how to pronounce i.e. "with", it is not with an "f" at the end. Das ist ja schlimmer als Schulenglisch 7. Klasse.
Oh man, immer diese Nörgler. Es gibt Leute denen ist der Inhalt wichtiger als die Option eines perfekten Englisch. Wir sind nun mal Denglisher…. Video war super und das solltest Du erst mal besser machen, bevor Du dich so lehrerhaft aufspielst.
This is one of the clearest and most concise demonstrations I've seen. I had a lot of questions at the beginning but all were addressed. Thank you, I'll be constructing something similar for my current project.
Thank you, I'm glad to hear that! Good luck with your project too!
A big +1 on the 3M Dual-Lock. It's very nice to work with.
I have a similar build using the XR18.
In my Rack I have the;
- XAir XR18
- HA6000 6-channel headphone amp
- x2 ULTRALINK MS8000 microphone splitter (to create "Isolated split")
- Furman M-10XE Power Conditioner
I would have preferred to have the X32 Rack (because of Dante & Channel count), but due to budget and availability, I had to go with the XR18 (and I was lucky to even get that cause they were all sold out 2 hours after I purchased mine).
I remember when the X32 Rack was £700 during a sale a couple years ago, and I remember thinking "I don't currently need this now, so I'm sure it will be on sale in the future". The X32 Rack is currently £1,249, and has never dropped since.
i have an X32 rack system including the headphone amp. I feed the amp inputs with the AUX (1/4 outputs) and save the 8 XLR outputs for other purposes. Simple.
nice tip - 3m Dual lock! will start using that!
Your X32 mixer is having subtle shorts as seen on its screen. Use shielded cables for your AES50, Dante and Ethernet connections
Mix via “wife e””. Hahah. Love the info my man! Good vid
😅 Thank you!
Never heard of 3M dual lock before. Will definitely get some! We're doing a similar project for my band, using a presonus 32R
Yeah I would recommend to definitely try it then, and much success for your project!
3M dual lock is amazing. Unreal for pedal boards as well.
You may using USB cable for extra 17-32 channels... No additional fee, all external
Thank you. Love it
Do you have any issues with the router having it inside the rack? Wasn't sure if it would cause any signal issues. Thank you! Great demo
Es sei erwähnt, das Dante in der Kombi mit dem DVS einiges an Latenz hinzufügt. Wer’s richtig schnell braucht nutzt dann eine zusätzliche Dantekarte an seinem Rechner (die kann dann auch 128/128 In/Outputs)
Very clean cable management.
Thank you
I start my build this week. Good demo
Wow good luck with your build! Hope everything turns out fine
Well explained... Thank you...straight to the point...great video
Thank you
Thanks for lot of information
Very detailed review! Awesome job.
Great video.
Very useful video!
Just wondering what exact model of headphones amplifier from Behringer did you get before this one (i wanna avoid that model since you say is is noisy)
Thank you very much.
Welcome!
Thanks for all the info. It was very helpful. But I did not catch how you get all the tracks to FOH now as your splitter was only usedvanlig for drums?
Up until now only digitally (for example with a second X32 at FOH via AES50).
Thanks Michael for this great video. Which Router do you using?
I don't know the exact model but it's a TP link, a normal wifi router
Hey Michael,
Danke Dir für das Video, hat mir sehr geholfen.
Ich habe zwei Fragen:
1. Was für einen Router Du für dein Rack benutzt und ob Du mit diesem zufrieden bist.
Ich will mir für mein Rack einen zuverlässigen Router anschaffen der auch in größeren Venues und Outdoor problemlos funktioniert.
2. Machst Du die Kabel mit Kabelbindern an der Seite des Racks auch mit dem 3M Dual Lock fest oder benutzt Du dafür etwas anderes?
Vielleicht hast Du einen Tipp, beste Grüße. (:
Der Router ist ein älterer TP Link Router, das genau Model weiß ich nicht. Es ist ein regulärer WLAN Router, zufrieden bin ich schon damit. Man sollte generell bei einem solchen Rack darauf achten dass man stabiles zuverlässiges WLAN hat.
Die Kabel im Rack sind mit "Cable stand offs" befestigt - sowas in der Art: www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B08RMS5H25/ref=sr_1_19
@@michaelseebass Hey Michael, vielen Dank Dir!
please, I want to ask. if i have a personal monitor mixer p16 and i have an analog mixer but i do not have a direct out . So what should I do ? to change from insert to direct out.
You would need either an X32 mixer or the p16i. How you get your inputs to the p16i would be the question though, maybe you can do that with a splitter...
@@michaelseebass do you know to change from insert to direct output ? or adapter change from insert to direct ?
what is the name of splitter ?
I can easily get 6 stereo in ear mixes using the xlr outs and 1/4 inch outs on the x32 rack itself right? Do I understand it correctly that outputs(xlr) and aux outs (1/4inch) work the same way (Granting I use TRS for the 1/4 inch outs of course), just different plugs?
Absolutely, we use it now as 5 stereo IEM + LR. But keep in mind that you have 16 busses on the X32, effects involved, so with 6 st inears + 4 FX sends you reach the limit
(Technically 25, but the 6 matrices, the LR, and the center bus make up the rest)
@@csabislezak8485 Thanks!!!🙏🏻
ty!
Kuhl Mann! Is ja noch etwas platz drin für whatever. Ich könnte nicht widerstehen, Blenden zu verwenden und evtl zwischen X32 und S16 1-2 He Platz lassen
Wir hatten ein bisschen Platz gelassen für eventuelle Erweiterungen (zb. Wireless Empfänger)
How did he make that router stick to the top??
3M dual locks
@@michaelseebass thanks
Thanks for sharing!
Does Dante expansion card increases input channel of X32 rack??
Because keys are not plugged in directly on XLR input jack.
Just a doubt because I'm planning to get x32 rack and Dante card only, not S16 stagebox.
Thanks for helping newbies:)
And is it possible to send all 32 channels input without FX we are using for IEM to FOH via Dante??
Not the FX and gain we set for IEM only direct clean sounds of vocals and instruments??
Hi, I'm not sure I understand your question fully. A few things:
- Dante does not expand your channel count. With the Dante Expansion Card in the X32 your X32 still has 32 channels. Its just a different way of getting input (or output) into the board. You can basically select for each channel (or groups of channels) if you want to use the XLR input or Dante input
- you can send every Dante Input also to FOH, regardless of what you do with it in the X32.
One question though, how will you get your signals into the Dante network? Do you have a dante-capable interface or a breakout box or some Dante-stagebox?
@@michaelseebass Hi, thanks for answering yeah you have cleared my first doubt thanks again!
Last doubt was, is it possible to send vocals and guitars to FOH through Dante expansion card, which are plugged in X32 rack input channel through XLR cables not Dante network?
@@reshephgani9798 That should be possible
@@michaelseebass ohh okay thank you.
Does each musician with signals not using microphones plug into multiple direct boxes which output balanced signal to each x32 xlr input?
At the moment only bass and acoustic plug into DI boxes. Electric runs 2 xlrs directly out of the helix. Keyboards and backing tracks run via Dante.
@@michaelseebass How does your keyboards line outputs get to Dante ethernet?
@@christothegreat1 Keyboard is played via a Macbook with Mainstage that runs Dante Virtual Soundcard, so we can plug Ethernet directly into the Macbook
Nice! Thanks for sharing.
Sehr interessant, aber warum denn nichtig deutscher Sprache ????
Danke dir,
mein Kanal ist generell eigentlich englisch.
Ich mache Cover&Tutorials für deutsch-sprachige Songs auf deutsch, weil das mehr nur für die deutschsprachige Community interessant ist.
Generell aber englisch, auf Englisch verstehen es einfach mehr und das Video ist interessanter für mehr Menschen weltweit 🙂
How do you not step on and damage 16 xlr cables coming into the front of this rack, or the xlr input jacks themselves? It seems like you need to manage this with some proactive protection method.
We put the rack to the back or side of the stage, where no one walks in front of the rack, so thats not really an issue. If we wanted we could put the S16 at the bottom of the rack (I prefer the power outlets there though)
Weight? Total cost?
Have not calculated it. Everything is linked in the description so you can get an idea what the cost would be.
och man, wenn du schon auf englisch deine Videos machen willst, dann leg dir doch wenigstens einen vernünftigen Akzent zu.... and learn how to pronounce i.e. "with", it is not with an "f" at the end. Das ist ja schlimmer als Schulenglisch 7. Klasse.
Oh man, immer diese Nörgler. Es gibt Leute denen ist der Inhalt wichtiger als die Option eines perfekten Englisch. Wir sind nun mal Denglisher…. Video war super und das solltest Du erst mal besser machen, bevor Du dich so lehrerhaft aufspielst.