F-5E Tiger vs Mig-21bis Fishbed: Which Is The Best Dogfighter? | DCS WORLD

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @Danofcanada
    @Danofcanada 3 года назад +6

    Would of the two even have a dogfight of any kind if there was a war during that era?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 года назад +10

      ruclips.net/video/9zUvMEnwvW8/видео.html

  • @crossonyx8463
    @crossonyx8463 3 года назад +8

    Last time I was this early the Red Baron was still flying above the western front.

  • @flighttherapybullisticfpv133
    @flighttherapybullisticfpv133 3 года назад +8

    Ooooh Can we pls get a Skyhawk vs Fishbed comparison? I think the new flight model makes it at least a viable video

  • @sheeplord4976
    @sheeplord4976 3 года назад +8

    The delta wing of the MiG-21 allows it to very quickly get nose on target at the cost of speed. This makes it exceptional for missile fights and snapshots. It is not very good in an extended fight like the one shown.

    • @CAL1MBO
      @CAL1MBO 10 месяцев назад

      It is very good in extended fights too. Has a very high thrust to weight ratio. Just needs a competent pilot.

  • @TheFanatical1
    @TheFanatical1 3 года назад +3

    Loving the F-5E being shown off. Hands down one of my favouite planes.

  • @B61Mod12
    @B61Mod12 3 года назад +4

    27:05 Why would anyone reverse their turn in a single circle fight like this? He just gave up any angle he had on his opponent and totally invited that missile shot, which was unlucky to have not ended him.

  • @madaxe606
    @madaxe606 Год назад +2

    The AIM-9P5 is a MUCH better missile than the R-60M. I expect that if this test had been AIM-9B/AIM-9P against R-3S/R-60, this would have been a lot less lopsided.

    • @CAL1MBO
      @CAL1MBO 10 месяцев назад

      They should have done R13 vs AIM-9B. Agreed.

  • @AXL4LIFE229
    @AXL4LIFE229 3 года назад +2

    Going to comment b4 I watch the out come.. I'm personally partial to the F-5. It's one of my top five Aircraft I love to pilot In the game. So I'm rooting for it.. JS.

  • @reichenwald-gm4qd
    @reichenwald-gm4qd 3 года назад +12

    Please do the Mig 19 against F5 next. It’s a very interesting fight in my opinion because the planes are very different

  • @Pookybr
    @Pookybr Год назад

    This might be a good what if. F20 tigershark vs Mig21. Seeing that we have seen the F5 vs Mig21.

  • @einar8019
    @einar8019 3 года назад +1

    max aoa for the draken at 350kmh is about 24 degrees per second sustained. if youre fancy you could do a cobra and get a 90 degree aoa

  • @palwanar
    @palwanar Год назад

    That's a lot of effort, thanks guys.

  • @ricardomartinez1871
    @ricardomartinez1871 3 года назад +1

    Let me share my Eureka moment during this video: Soviets didn't want that their pilots have a chance at defending themselves according to the design of the cockpit and the mirror to watch the rear section. Luckily that doctrine changed 180°.

  • @julianviefers6703
    @julianviefers6703 3 года назад +1

    Really looking forward to the f5a in warthunder and see how itll pair against the mig21.
    dont have a pc so itll have todo for me :D

  • @fernandorosati9450
    @fernandorosati9450 3 года назад +2

    Hello, very good channel, I wanted to ask you if you could reproduce the combat of Giora Epstein in the Dagger (M2000C) against 11 MIG-21 on the Sinai in 1973?

  • @slowhornet4802
    @slowhornet4802 3 года назад +2

    Hi Cap, maybe you could test the following scenario: Let the F-15, F-14, F-16, F/A-18 defend the fleet: incoming Bombers launching streams of anti-ship missiles.
    Is the F-14 superior in this scenario? Could the other aircraft defend the fleet at all? (Fleet close to shore so F-15/F-16 could land and rearm).
    "Fleet" should be just a carrier (no anti air ships). Scenario with and without Aim-120.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 года назад

      Are we shooting down bombers or missiles?

    • @slowhornet4802
      @slowhornet4802 3 года назад

      I would say primarily the bombers, but in the end it is up to the interceptors whether or not they want to go for the bombers or the missiles.
      If number of bombers is high enough it might be more important to knock out the bombers, but especially with Aim-7 it might be an issue.
      # of interceptors should also be limited, so landing + rearming would be a challenge.
      F-16 fast but only 6 missiles. F/A-18 slow but more missiles. F-15 fast with 8 missiles... Tomcat with the longest punch.
      Airforce or Navy?

  • @blackhatch46
    @blackhatch46 3 года назад +2

    You cant deploy flares and just keep flying straight. You have to break phase and plane.

  • @ptrisonic
    @ptrisonic 3 года назад +1

    Cap, can you prepare a plan for a quick pre-emptive strike on the HQ of the SNP? ;)
    Good to see "Tail" back in the F5 once more..

  • @kotor1892
    @kotor1892 3 года назад +3

    Can't wait to see fulcrum vs falcon and flanker vs hornet! Do you take bets :D?

    • @koekiejam18
      @koekiejam18 3 года назад

      I think best counterpart to the hornet is the flanker D, (naval flanker essentially)

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 года назад +3

      16 vs 29 done. REALLY good.

    • @slowhornet4802
      @slowhornet4802 3 года назад +1

      "Do you take bets?" At least Cap as an Englishman physically could not answer "no". Betting is hardcoded in their genes.

    • @kotor1892
      @kotor1892 3 года назад

      @@grimreapers Go go GR!!

  • @baron1c
    @baron1c 3 года назад +2

    F15 vs F16 guns and fox 2s.

  • @Decrepit_biker
    @Decrepit_biker 3 года назад +2

    Might 21 vs mig 28 1980s soviet test footage, colourised

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 3 года назад

    Woudl imagine it would be difficult for an F5 to get a MiG21to overshoot - huge delta wing would alow it to dump speed quickly.

  • @Thetequilashooter1
    @Thetequilashooter1 2 года назад +3

    No doubt that the F-5 would win . A Soviet pilot who got to test a F-5 after it was left by US forces in Vietnam said that the F-5 won every time in dogfights against the Mig-21 and Mig-23.

    • @saltMagic
      @saltMagic 2 года назад

      They have the F-5 way too toned down imo.

  • @JTelli786
    @JTelli786 3 года назад

    21:44 minor mistake but I can't help but point it out lol. You labeled the pilot of the Mig21 as Penguin when it was Pilatus

  • @jamesnorth7318
    @jamesnorth7318 3 года назад +1

    No talking through the tac view instead cap? Tbh I think that was a better way or maybe I'm commenting too early in the video

  • @stanpan4126
    @stanpan4126 3 года назад +5

    Can you plz make a video on what you need to play dcs as well as the best plane to buy for beginners as I am in the market for the game I just need to know what I need to get.

    • @koekiejam18
      @koekiejam18 3 года назад

      Go watch his buyers guides, as far as equipment ive seen people play dcs with just a keyboard, but just an xbox controller will work a little bit better. And in the end make sure you buy a plane that you like otherwise youll never be motivated to learn it.

    • @starwarsisajoke
      @starwarsisajoke 3 года назад

      @@koekiejam18 my xbox controller can work on my laptop? I'll have to try that. Keyboard is so difficult.

    • @stanpan4126
      @stanpan4126 3 года назад

      @@koekiejam18 thx

    • @koekiejam18
      @koekiejam18 3 года назад +1

      @@starwarsisajoke keyboard might be difficult (but ive seen people fly all the planes with ease using it, just takes alot of time to get used to) and xbox controller definitly works, altough you might have to use your cable if your laptop doesnt have bluetooth

    • @graht1
      @graht1 3 года назад +2

      ruclips.net/video/9Tpp0pnR498/видео.html

  • @jamesnorth7318
    @jamesnorth7318 3 года назад +1

    Yea I think the others were better without the cinematic view and just talk over the tac view

  • @jamesnorth7318
    @jamesnorth7318 3 года назад +2

    Can we get the Aussie guy back on that knows what he's talking about more? He describes the fights very well.
    Cap I think you need to draw on your wall a one circle and 2 circle
    Nose to tail is not a one circle fight.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 года назад

      LB? Yeh def would want him back.

    • @jamesnorth7318
      @jamesnorth7318 3 года назад

      @@grimreapers yay you replied lol. It's bloody confusing sometimes lol I'll give you that. Anyway even though I'm yapping, I should be thanking you for the hours and hours of content and entertainment you've provided.
      Thankyou.

  • @SurelyYewJest
    @SurelyYewJest 4 месяца назад

    How did NATO come up with "Fishbed"?

  • @Skybolter
    @Skybolter Год назад

    F-5E Tiger II Rules.

  • @mrsirkosky7618
    @mrsirkosky7618 3 года назад +1

    This one's easy
    Mirage

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  3 года назад +2

      Mirage goes twice as fast as it should in certain configurations, too arcade to be serious sim aircraft.

    • @mrsirkosky7618
      @mrsirkosky7618 3 года назад

      @@grimreapers I am just teasin' you a bit.
      Edit: does this speed-problem sill occur in newer versions of the plane? Because I have bought it last fall and I never encounterd this.

  • @Mrv9019
    @Mrv9019 3 года назад +1

    mig 21