Hogan was pissed at the Royal Rumble because he got booed heavily and Sid got cheered heavily. The fans cheered when he got eliminated. Apparently the WWE network edited the crowd reaction, but people who were there said it was a lot different.
Yo, Beyond The Mat, if you've never seen it, is amazeballs. It was my first step into the real truth of wrestling and I gotts say, all this has done is make me like wrestling more.
One could also look at it as him having guts and showing how much he cares about the business and his friends Being that he had these encounters because of the two The fact Hogan acknowledged Jericho wanting to close out his brief feud with Goldberg and apologized for supporting against him getting it says a LOT
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As like a 7 year old kid ... I was glad when it was over ..... even though he never said I quit somehow someway they were able to play it over the speakers
Same goes for Hell In A Cell match between Undertaker and Mankind at KOTR 1998. There are parts of the match Foley doesn't remember even after seeing them televised.
Even Mick Foley nearly walked out of the then WWF after Montreal from what I've heard! Jim Cornette said that he got out of there early that night to avoid the backstage blowups as soon as he saw what happened. And as far as Taker's actions are concerned, didn't he basically use his Locker Room Leader status to tell Vince, 'make it right with Bret, or you won't have a company tomorrow,' with the clear implication that he'd be leaving and taking most of the roster with him? The supposed fact that Bret would later tell Vince that if he was still there after he got out of the shower, [Bret] would punch him out, and McMahon responded by taking the blow... Doesn't make up for the screwjob, or any of his many other dishonorable actions over the years, but I respect it. He knew he deserved it, and he took it.
@@fangsabre in all fairness, it’s Shawn’s fault for telling Brett he wouldn’t put him over 2 months before survivor series. All Shawn had to do was shut his mouth and have a match but his ego led to Vince and Brett’s blowup. Vince had the power to change it but Shawn was so hysterical he would have just jumped to wcw to be with Nash and hall. Vince couldn’t afford to lose 2 top guys especially when they were in the championship picture. Vince placated Shawn and screwed bret as it was the path of least resistance.
The red head dude with the glasses (sorry I cant remember your name of top of my head) but hes funny as hell. The video ranking all the times Hogan was actually pinned was fucking hilarious
Indeed it really helps that there’s not only so many stories about his attitude, but the fact many are credible sources (like Vader and Undertaker), but there’s the fact Shawn practically acknowledges just about all of them And has stated he himself is not happy recalling how much of a complete a-hole he was back then
I respect that about HBK. The fact that he's acknowledged his asshole behavior and appears to genuinely regret it and has worked to make amends. Not an easy thing to do, especially in a business with such huge egos.
**The story actually goes** Titus O'Neil grabbed this McMahon's arm out of chivalry for Stephanie McMahon He said he felt Stephanie should walk before Vince seeing that she's a woman, out of respect he grabbed Vince McMahon's arm to allow Stephanie to walk ahead of Vince......and that's what happened..
But vince seen it as he seen him as an old weak man and needed an arm grab to help him walk or something. It is his ego jumping to conclusions. Funny thought that he thinks women should walk first but in middle East women walk behind the men
@@cutekanjii to be fair, Vince is the main man and her dad so he should walk ahead of her. It is another thing if he allows her to walk ahead, but the thing that a women should walk ahead is pure crap.....you don't deserve special treatment just because you're a women
Regardless of the reasons why everyone knows the sort of person McMahon is the man don't like you sneezing that alone is enough for anyone to see you don't touch him 🤷🤷
I try to imagine Vince talking to Mick after that cell match. Vince: Mick please, you cannot do anything like that again it's too much. Mick: Ok Mr. Easter Bunny I'll never do what I just did ever again, but I probably won't remember it.
To be honest, he was a polarizing figure even in the late 80s (88-89) and people started disliking him further during the earlier 90s. There were at least two incidents where the crowd actually cheered for the Heels when they either eliminated or defeated Hogan. The first example is when Jake the Snake Roberts supposedly hit Hogan with a DDT and was cheered so loudly that Hogan threw a ruckus and refused to work with Jake again. The same thing happened in one of the royal rumbles where Sid eliminated Hogan and the crowd cheered it - the commentators were fed lines by Vince to hide this fact and the video taping removed the cheers and replaced it with Boos.
@@aswinastro Exactly my point. Being either-or about Hogan isn't new in the slightest. And there are plenty of stories from wrestlers about him being unbearable to work with.
@@pacopaco897 Id recommend checking out their WWE Network subscription for at least one month. And go back and watch old Raws and PPVs you can skip to certain parts. I just relived 1998 and had a blast doing it, even tho I don't watch current WWE stuff cause it infuriates me how underwhelming most matches are now.
I'll always respect Shawn Michaels (Michael Hickenbottom lol) the most as a person because when he returned after 5 years he was a completely different person and it was obvious even in the ring. He put people over by taking a loss or pulling magic out of people (Shelton Benjamin on raw)
He still had his moments though (see Hogan in 2005, or his tantrum after his Mania match with Cena in 07). But overall, I'd say he probably was different.
Nevermind the voicemail from mick, how bout the unprotected chair shots the rock gave him in front of Mick's crying family, especially after mick had them sit ringside to show his kids he'd be okay after they seen him fall from the top of hell in the cell.... TWICE!!! I'm sorry but how did mick think his kids were gna react?!?! Love mick and I know he's a great father but damn!!!
Rock took it waaay too far and went beyond the agreed amount. There's being a heel to get heat, but he literally put Mick's life in danger. The Rock/Dwayne is a pos.
@@Deadpool_64 He only did more than planned because they weren’t where they were supposed to be after the planned amount so he asked Mick if it’s ok to do more and Mick said yeah to make it seem realistic and not have him just get up and walk to the top of the stage which is where they were supposed to end up at
@@JDot_9 Same goes for the spot at the Hell In A Cell match between Undertaker and Mankind where Taker threw Mankind off the top of the cage. Taker was very reluctant to do that,Foley had to talk him into it.
He’s not tiny. Just short. And honestly, it never bothered me. HBK isn’t very tall either, and he did pretty well. Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit: all were short, and all were great.
Brock Lesnar is a former NCAA D1 wrestler and UFC heavyweight champion. Also, listen to Jericho tell the full story of the Goldberg incident. It’s not as badass as it seems.
He doesn’t appear tiny. All these guys were cranked out of their tree off the sauzule in the 90’s early 2000’s. The rock had gyno to the point where he had to wear that black jacket
@@trevorrovert3103 maybe not but I find that more reapectable. Chris Jericho goes far beyond to make sure its safe for everyone. And to stand up to someone 2 or 3 timea his size like Brock Lerner is imperessive.
I remember seeing the Rumble ppv and the cheers when Sid tossed Hogan out, and the anouncer saying "there are no friends in the Royal rumble, it's every man for himself". Then the next day watching the highlights on the monday show the crowd booed when Hogan was tossed and the anouncer's scrip was changed to "what a creep Sid Justice turned out to be".
@@SMPMS8389 so did Undertaker apparently. Apparently Taker actually tracked down Vince and told him too man up or you won't have a company by tomorrow.
After Undertaker’s match at Elimination Chamber where he got burned by the entrance pyro he told Vince he didn’t care what McMahon did to the pyrotechnics tech but if he got his hands on him he’d kill him. Vince fired him on the spot.
exactly. all that happened was because he was black. edit: irdc what y'all have to say, attack me all you want but after Vince said the N-word and pulled that crap i have to assume he's racist, period. y'all are a bunch of keyboard nerds who have nothing to do but attack teenagers in comment sections.
@@kaylalaufeyson8828 No. That's plain wrong and stupid to say. He was suspended because Vince has a history of being sexually abused as a child. These kind of people don't always handle situations like this like you expect. They react harshly when touched unwanted. He threw a fit, because he was legit triggered, but let others talk him down. It didn't happen because he was Black. Being black LITERALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO with the suspension. It happened because Titus made a mistake he couldn't know about. Don't touch abused people without consent or you will get drastic reactions.
@@kaylalaufeyson8828 Trust a racist to see color in a situation where an old man's mind is simply failing him and causing him to overreact to the demons of his own past. Well done ma'am...
You need to be really dumb to grab your bosses arm like that, specially when we're talking about Vince McMahon! I'm surprised Titus O'Neil manages to enter a ring without tripping or falling, so dumb
Scott Steiner “attacked” me and my friends in the parking lot in Yakima, WA after his big bad bootie daddy promo on that Nitro. We jumped in the car with my buddies dad and took off.
In your house 4 did suck. Vince really thought Mabel was going to be the next big thing. He thought he could move around like Yokozuna. It wasn't until Mabel faced Undertaker who could have a match with anyone that Vince lost hope in him. The rest of the crowd did earlier. Now I am not trying to talk I'll of the dead. Yes he broke Undertaker's orbital bone but The Undertaker gave him another chance. But the Name had to change and the look. And he became part of the Ministry. He did get a little better this time and people liked his gimmick. If Undertaker had to get onto Big Show alot then He really had to get onto Mabel.
Shawn probably just wanted to make sure Bret didnt pull a Hogan at Mania 6 after losing to the Warrior. Hogan was supposedly handing the torch to Warrior but made Warrior's title win celebration about himself. Bret even said he didnt think Shawn shoulda gone over. So Shawn was making sure Bret didnt flub up his torch moment.
Watched some vader stuff last night Michael's pushing him out of the ring after summerslam big pos move.vader would have broke Michael's in half could literally see the fear in his eyes when he was about to get powerbomed he shit his pants
And it’s fitting cause while he’s not acknowledged as being as terrifying to deal with then the likes of Andre the Giant, Meng, or Harley Race Vader is a guy you legit don’t mess with even though he’s generally a great guy I mean it’s telling that egomaniac Inoki of all people let Vader beat him clean in Tokyo for his IWGP Title during his personal reign of terror (depending on who you ask regarding the time Inoki had a stranglehold on his company’s top title)
@@arashitendou5941 even Andre the Giant was scared of Harley Race, that is proven if you look into it. Harley was also one of the few to slam Andre before Hogan did at Mania 3
You gotta give Vince credit. Cutting the feed on the pet project of a person known for killing media figures, because of a payment dispute? The Man has balls.
I don't see Jericho challenging Brock as a moment of insanity. Jericho is a legit badass whose toughness is overlooked because of his size. I believe he could hold his own against Lesnar in a street fight.
@@chaoticdays which is even worse for Jericho because nobody would break up the fight when getting pounded, street fights are dangerous, you can get knocked out and somebody can keep hitting you, which is not cool, that would put Jericho in even more danger on the street
@@derekbonin4996 not necessarily. Brock would overpower him no doubt, but since there are no rules Jericho would fight dirty to survive. In a street fight, the most vicious usually has the upper hand and I think Jericho could be more vicious than Brock if required.
She was my celebrity crush back then. Mind you, she was holding her own with the likes of Jennifer Lopez and Britney Spears at her peak in my view. Early McMahon-Helmsley Stephanie was even better with her talent at playing a heel (she must have inherited that from Vince).
I see both sides of that thing with Titus. Teddy Long said it perfectly when he was asked about it. Titus Plays Too Much. That was not the time. Even if it was true that it was so he would let Stephanie go through first that wasn't his place. All that was too serious for him to be screwing around. But I do agree Vince's reaction was WAY over the top. Suspending him for 3 months so he misses Wrestlemania and having to be talked down from not firing him? That is over kill. Take him off tv a couple of shows let that hit to his wallet be his lesson.
I love when z Simon is not on screen because he has problem with his arms. I didn't know arms can go in those directions . At least he scares me so I i escape to a better host.
And reason number 3 as to why no one outside of Vince and those who support him on this matter are happy with the Saudi deal regardless of the money involved
Simon, love your videos but a quick question. Why, in number one, did you not mention how it screwed us in Buffalo, New York out of a proper Smackdown the night after? I mean, we're already screwed for living in Buffalo. That was something that just wasn't needed.
I know Shawn's attitude problem. But the Mania 12 fiasco is understandable. You just wrestled for 1 hour and you don't know how much time you got before the feed cuts (see Raw in 97) to celebrate. So he may have phrased it wrongly, but I see his point.
@@supersasukemaniac Bull. Why was the cage breaking apart in that spot, with zip ties falling to the mat? Pro wrestling cages are not held together with zip ties. He was lying to his wife because he knew he'd get a ton of heat at home. It was OBVIOUSLY a planned spot. What, do you think they were just going to gingerly climb down together when the were done fighting up there? Was Undertaker going to pin Mick up there? Would the referee have climbed up to count, or just do it by looking up? Don't be so gullible.
Nah, the old man is obviously sinking into dementia and a single unwanted touch flashes him back to the numerous unwanted touches he had when he was a kid- historical fact. Losing touch with reality as he grows old can't be a good experience for a man that was once the greatest mind in wrestling.
Well if you fire a dude for just congratulating your wife on her bid for governship, like Abraham Washington did, I’m not surprised he freak out an try to fire a guy for just wanting to physically acknowledge his boss during a generally heartwarming scene
Nah, both of y'all are wrong Titus O'Neil grabbed this McMahon's arm out of chivalry for Stephanie McMahon He said he felt Stephanie should walk before Vince seeing that she's a woman..
I don’t feel that Jericho is crazy for possibly wanting to commence w the good hands w Lesnar, just because you’ve someone has done MMA that they can’t get handled outside of it......anybody can get got. Ask Batista about how he got got by Booker T as well as ask Lesnar about the late Curt Henning
Jericho had the better of Goldberg in a fight as well. I think Brock would win but it wouldnt be as straight forward as some might think. I bet Jericho can take a beating as well. Hed just keep getting back up.
What’s crazy is the bump from the top of the ladder to the stack of tables taken by bubba ray and the undertaker is talked about way less but was a lot worse than foley falling off the 16’ he’ll in a cell onto one table
Honestly it's the second fall from the cell, or rather through the cell, that's really hard to watch. The one onto the announce table is more visually shocking but the other one wasnt planned and he took a chair to the head on the way down, that's why he was so out of it afterwards
The Randy no sale reminds me of the night after wrestlemania in Seattle when Goldberg debuted and spared the Rock before the show went off air right after the Rock went up to a little kids in the front row and did the if your small what the Rock is cooking gimmick with him
If Shawn Michaels and Taker want to have some beers after a match that incredible, so fucking what. Those brews were hard earned, can I get a hell yeah?
It helps he repeatedly acknowledges his actions and has admitted to really hating how much an a-hole he was in the 80s-90s When you constantly do this and accept when it’s brought up in conversation, especially with how much he’s done, you can’t help but appreciate the fact he accepts it and allows it to be constantly brought up and explained The fact he probably can’t go a single interview without at least one incident being brought up and rolls with it speaks volumes
and, when you're pretty much the FEATURED storyline... d× every Monday, the last thing you probably want to hear is ideas from fans, other wwe 'folks' talents and maybe even creative, hey I got an idea 4u.... he's the best thing going at the time, don't need to tell him how to do his job
The Hart family curse should be an episode. By far the best technical wrestlers Bret and Owen were the most talent wwf wrestlers. Bulldog, Jim Neidhart 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Titus: never understood why people don’t understand Vince’s reaction. There’s something especially infuriating when another man: 1. Implies he’s Mr. Chivalry, 2. Implies YOU are in need of a “how to treat women” class, taught by him, 3. Does this all in front of other people. 4. Does this in front of a woman you’re interested in. Nine times out of ten, it’s a guy “going into business for himself” to look like the babyface. It’s the most enraging thing. I’ve seen a decent bar fight started by this exact And it’s not just about sex/romance. If another guy did the above with a female relative, I’d get almost as pissed, because again he’s (in your head) diminishing your manhood to exaggerate his own. “oh no, YOU obviously don’t know how to behave, does he gals? Let me demonstrate for you.” So, all that and it being on national television, I understand where Vince was coming from, though obviously Titus is just a good guy and didn’t mean any of the above. I’m not saying Vince was right, just that his out of proportion reaction makes some sense.
The Undertaker thing isn't very accurate, as he even said outright that Vince was already on the way down to talk to Bret. He didn't force him to do it and they kind of just walked back together before it turned into Vince and Bret screaming at each other
At this point between shawn and bret at mania 12, they agreed on the f*** outta my ring shtick to work the boys into thinking they had heat. Shawn and Bret have said many times they were reporting in the dirt sheets there were problems before they really were.
Undertaker is cool asf, but it's wise not to get on his bad side and I highly believe that's what Vince was avoiding all these years. But now I see why certain and current wrestlers left WWE to AEW or Impact, WWE Backstage Drama that'll never be discussed on live television.
Shawn Michaels : Tell him to get the f*** out of my ring.
Bret Hart : I heard that.
That's heat! Big time!!!
Hogan was pissed at the Royal Rumble because he got booed heavily and Sid got cheered heavily. The fans cheered when he got eliminated. Apparently the WWE network edited the crowd reaction, but people who were there said it was a lot different.
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He was screaming like a hysterical woman apparently
It’s funny how hogan became the way he was when he was trained by matsuda same as lugar
Sick of wwe editing shit
@Cb Bu Try 5 years til the NWO stuff
I think it shows how much shawn has changed and bettered himself compared to this 90's self, he was just chilling with taker after the match.
The Jericho Lesnar story was literally on WWE Storytime
Gallows and Anderson's telling of the Saudi Arabia trip is excellent! "They're gonna kill the mid-card for christ's sake!" lmaoooo
Mick Foley is extraodinary human being
No, he's a moron.
Jericho and Taker are indeed the truest Chads
Now I feel like watching Hitman Hart Wrestling with Shadows but Beyond the Mat is a close second
Lol I was just watching wrestling with shadows this morning
I highly recommend them both. Gives a perspective of wrestling behind the scenes.
...what?
@@BreakingNVain huh
Yo, Beyond The Mat, if you've never seen it, is amazeballs. It was my first step into the real truth of wrestling and I gotts say, all this has done is make me like wrestling more.
So Jericho picks a fight with Goldberg in WCW and Brock in WWE.
Rock on Y2J, you masochistic bastard.
One could also look at it as him having guts and showing how much he cares about the business and his friends
Being that he had these encounters because of the two
The fact Hogan acknowledged Jericho wanting to close out his brief feud with Goldberg and apologized for supporting against him getting it says a LOT
Actually both altercations were in WWE.
Squaring up to Brock is either brave or dumb, probably both. Goldberg on the other hand, I'd pick my missus to beat him in a real fight.
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I like how Brodie Lee was held hostage in Saudi Arabia chilling lol
Jericho stood up to both Goldberg and Lesner. Canadians love to fight
Like we love Timmy’s and hockey 😂
Haa!
I guess so. 😄👍
My dad always told me, “You never have to worry about physically big men. It’s those little ones you have to watch.”
Jericho is actually American by birth, born in Mass.
And here we thought Canada had the "nice people" stereotype lol
No.6 - the real reason Vince reacted that way is because his body goes into shock when he comes into contact with anything with decency.
Mick was so out of it after the "I quit" match that he doesn't remember the Rock coming in to check on him despite it being on film!
As like a 7 year old kid ... I was glad when it was over ..... even though he never said I quit somehow someway they were able to play it over the speakers
Yea that happens when you take 11 unprotected chair shots when you were only supposed to take 1 or 2
It was a tape
Same goes for Hell In A Cell match between Undertaker and Mankind at KOTR 1998.
There are parts of the match Foley doesn't remember even after seeing them televised.
Even Mick Foley nearly walked out of the then WWF after Montreal from what I've heard! Jim Cornette said that he got out of there early that night to avoid the backstage blowups as soon as he saw what happened.
And as far as Taker's actions are concerned, didn't he basically use his Locker Room Leader status to tell Vince, 'make it right with Bret, or you won't have a company tomorrow,' with the clear implication that he'd be leaving and taking most of the roster with him?
The supposed fact that Bret would later tell Vince that if he was still there after he got out of the shower, [Bret] would punch him out, and McMahon responded by taking the blow... Doesn't make up for the screwjob, or any of his many other dishonorable actions over the years, but I respect it. He knew he deserved it, and he took it.
The only respectable thing about Vince in that whole affair
And Mr McMahon was born
Taker wasnt going to leave. Theres no way the entire roster would just quit.
@@fangsabre in all fairness, it’s Shawn’s fault for telling Brett he wouldn’t put him over 2 months before survivor series. All Shawn had to do was shut his mouth and have a match but his ego led to Vince and Brett’s blowup. Vince had the power to change it but Shawn was so hysterical he would have just jumped to wcw to be with Nash and hall. Vince couldn’t afford to lose 2 top guys especially when they were in the championship picture. Vince placated Shawn and screwed bret as it was the path of least resistance.
The roster wasn't going anywhere over Bret losing Vince's belt and who was going to make 3 million a year in WCW lol.
I'm a simple man! I see a WhatCulture Wrestling video, I click to hear if it's Simon and stay or some other and go.
Same!
Jules is great too! You should give him a chance.
Jules and the black dude are great as well
The red head dude with the glasses (sorry I cant remember your name of top of my head) but hes funny as hell. The video ranking all the times Hogan was actually pinned was fucking hilarious
Exactly!
I believe Bret Hart’s story of Shawn Michaels cussing him out after their Iron Man Match. I heard Shawn was difficult to work with back then.
Saying Shawn Michaaels was difficult to work with back then is akin to saying infernos were once warm...
Indeed it really helps that there’s not only so many stories about his attitude, but the fact many are credible sources (like Vader and Undertaker), but there’s the fact Shawn practically acknowledges just about all of them
And has stated he himself is not happy recalling how much of a complete a-hole he was back then
I respect that about HBK. The fact that he's acknowledged his asshole behavior and appears to genuinely regret it and has worked to make amends. Not an easy thing to do, especially in a business with such huge egos.
@@totz_the_plaid9625 exactly and him being put in backstage assistance with NXT by Triple H has shown
Shawn admits it himself so obviously it happened.
The fall that really hurt Foley was the one from the top of the cage to the mat, the one that shot his tooth out his nose.
So separating his shoulder doesn't count as an injury?
Chris Jericho is brave and insane
With a small dash of stupidity that I doubt he would argue about
**The story actually goes** Titus O'Neil grabbed this McMahon's arm out of chivalry for Stephanie McMahon He said he felt Stephanie should walk before Vince seeing that she's a woman, out of respect he grabbed Vince McMahon's arm to allow Stephanie to walk ahead of Vince......and that's what happened..
But vince seen it as he seen him as an old weak man and needed an arm grab to help him walk or something. It is his ego jumping to conclusions. Funny thought that he thinks women should walk first but in middle East women walk behind the men
@@cutekanjii to be fair, Vince is the main man and her dad so he should walk ahead of her. It is another thing if he allows her to walk ahead, but the thing that a women should walk ahead is pure crap.....you don't deserve special treatment just because you're a women
If I was Titus, I would have quit after getting $5000 fine and 60 day suspension.
Regardless of the reasons why everyone knows the sort of person McMahon is the man don't like you sneezing that alone is enough for anyone to see you don't touch him 🤷🤷
@@williamregal873 big incel vibes here.
Man, to be a fly on the wall in that get together with taker, Shawn and JR. Getting goosebumps just thinking about it !
I try to imagine Vince talking to Mick after that cell match.
Vince: Mick please, you cannot do anything like that again it's too much.
Mick: Ok Mr. Easter Bunny I'll never do what I just did ever again, but I probably won't remember it.
"Today, the Hulkster is a polarizing figure." Sure, *just* today. Uh huh.
To be honest, he was a polarizing figure even in the late 80s (88-89) and people started disliking him further during the earlier 90s. There were at least two incidents where the crowd actually cheered for the Heels when they either eliminated or defeated Hogan. The first example is when Jake the Snake Roberts supposedly hit Hogan with a DDT and was cheered so loudly that Hogan threw a ruckus and refused to work with Jake again. The same thing happened in one of the royal rumbles where Sid eliminated Hogan and the crowd cheered it - the commentators were fed lines by Vince to hide this fact and the video taping removed the cheers and replaced it with Boos.
@@aswinastro Exactly my point. Being either-or about Hogan isn't new in the slightest. And there are plenty of stories from wrestlers about him being unbearable to work with.
F the hulk. What a selfish douche bag of a person. I stopped watching wwe the min he came back, and thankfully we dont have to see him anymore.
I don't watch wwe today as much if I flip through the channels and come across wwe I might stop and watch
@@pacopaco897 Id recommend checking out their WWE Network subscription for at least one month. And go back and watch old Raws and PPVs you can skip to certain parts. I just relived 1998 and had a blast doing it, even tho I don't watch current WWE stuff cause it infuriates me how underwhelming most matches are now.
I'll always respect Shawn Michaels (Michael Hickenbottom lol) the most as a person because when he returned after 5 years he was a completely different person and it was obvious even in the ring. He put people over by taking a loss or pulling magic out of people (Shelton Benjamin on raw)
He still had his moments though (see Hogan in 2005, or his tantrum after his Mania match with Cena in 07). But overall, I'd say he probably was different.
@@ajk Hogan deserved the HBK treatment, that was hilarious. But I'm curious what happened after his match with Cena?
Uh...not if you ask people who worked with him. He quit taking pills and stopped drinking. That's it.
@@Rjensen2 I think he stopped giving McMahon rim jobs too.
Love hearing all the behind the scene dirt 😆
It’s like hearing human nature in action but instead of poor people; it’s rich people acting like primates.
Nevermind the voicemail from mick, how bout the unprotected chair shots the rock gave him in front of Mick's crying family, especially after mick had them sit ringside to show his kids he'd be okay after they seen him fall from the top of hell in the cell.... TWICE!!! I'm sorry but how did mick think his kids were gna react?!?! Love mick and I know he's a great father but damn!!!
Rock took it waaay too far and went beyond the agreed amount. There's being a heel to get heat, but he literally put Mick's life in danger. The Rock/Dwayne is a pos.
I didn't know that, then the rock took liberties with micks life, it has me looking at him in a different light, smh, what an asshole
@@ericanate3155 it's true. Rock is lucky he wasn't arrested that night.
@@Deadpool_64 He only did more than planned because they weren’t where they were supposed to be after the planned amount so he asked Mick if it’s ok to do more and Mick said yeah to make it seem realistic and not have him just get up and walk to the top of the stage which is where they were supposed to end up at
@@JDot_9 Same goes for the spot at the Hell In A Cell match between Undertaker and Mankind where Taker threw Mankind off the top of the cage.
Taker was very reluctant to do that,Foley had to talk him into it.
To this day, Titus still jokes about his trip at Greatest Royal Rumble.
I heard Hunico/Sin Cara is also one not to take shit from anyone. It’s not unusual that jobbers are actually tougher than main eventers.
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What the video shows is that Vince McMahon is usually the center of any shitstorm. Not a coincidence.
Literally just clicked because of the thumbnail 😂
Jericho may appear tiny, but he took out Goldberg once...so you would never know...maybe Vince saved Brock from the wrath of Jericho
He’s not tiny. Just short. And honestly, it never bothered me. HBK isn’t very tall either, and he did pretty well. Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit: all were short, and all were great.
His dad was a hockey player right? They fight an S ton lol, he probably never even had the fear to fight if need be
Brock Lesnar is a former NCAA D1 wrestler and UFC heavyweight champion. Also, listen to Jericho tell the full story of the Goldberg incident. It’s not as badass as it seems.
He doesn’t appear tiny. All these guys were cranked out of their tree off the sauzule in the 90’s early 2000’s. The rock had gyno to the point where he had to wear that black jacket
@@trevorrovert3103 maybe not but I find that more reapectable. Chris Jericho goes far beyond to make sure its safe for everyone. And to stand up to someone 2 or 3 timea his size like Brock Lerner is imperessive.
Simon, your the man, man. Keep up the great vids and ill keep watching!!
Jericho fears no one. People don't know him that well. He's a maniac.
I remember seeing the Rumble ppv and the cheers when Sid tossed Hogan out, and the anouncer saying "there are no friends in the Royal rumble, it's every man for himself". Then the next day watching the highlights on the monday show the crowd booed when Hogan was tossed and the anouncer's scrip was changed to "what a creep Sid Justice turned out to be".
'Shawn told bret to get the flub out of his ring but he didn't use the word flub' Brilliant
Pretty sure Foley talks about wanting to go in and quit after the screw job. Believe he talks about it in his book.
Yep he does.
JR talked him out of it
@@SMPMS8389 so did Undertaker apparently. Apparently Taker actually tracked down Vince and told him too man up or you won't have a company by tomorrow.
Bret talked him out of it from what I've heard.
He no-showed the Raw the day after.
After Undertaker’s match at Elimination Chamber where he got burned by the entrance pyro he told Vince he didn’t care what McMahon did to the pyrotechnics tech but if he got his hands on him he’d kill him. Vince fired him on the spot.
That was the day Vince McMahon saved a life.
Titus was did so wrong, he brings nothing but a great look for wwe💯
exactly. all that happened was because he was black.
edit: irdc what y'all have to say, attack me all you want but after Vince said the N-word and pulled that crap i have to assume he's racist, period. y'all are a bunch of keyboard nerds who have nothing to do but attack teenagers in comment sections.
Facts.
@@kaylalaufeyson8828 No. That's plain wrong and stupid to say.
He was suspended because Vince has a history of being sexually abused as a child.
These kind of people don't always handle situations like this like you expect. They react harshly when touched unwanted. He threw a fit, because he was legit triggered, but let others talk him down.
It didn't happen because he was Black. Being black LITERALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO with the suspension.
It happened because Titus made a mistake he couldn't know about.
Don't touch abused people without consent or you will get drastic reactions.
@@kaylalaufeyson8828 & Vince wrongfully over exaggerated it’s clear to see
@@kaylalaufeyson8828 Trust a racist to see color in a situation where an old man's mind is simply failing him and causing him to overreact to the demons of his own past. Well done ma'am...
I’m pretty convinced it was jose lothario, hbk asked to get out the ring....watch that moment again
Chris Jericho is a true legend in the wrestling business 💯
The only real time it was okay to bring up "The Curtin Call" and it was not brought up lol
Probably because it's so well known.
He grabbed Vince’s arm so that Linda could go first not to lift the mood
Wasn't it Stephanie
Vince a boss he should've minded his business
Vince perceived it as he thought he was weak and needed steadying or something
You need to be really dumb to grab your bosses arm like that, specially when we're talking about Vince McMahon!
I'm surprised Titus O'Neil manages to enter a ring without tripping or falling, so dumb
If I was Titus, I would have quit after getting $5000 fine and 60 day suspension.
Between you guys, watch WWE, and Wrestlelamia, I don't honestly know how there's anything left to be said about the past 20 years.
Jim Cornette once said in one of his podcasts if he were to fight Brock,he'd bring a gun.
I'd bring elite striking, take down defense......and a gun.
You know I'm a pretty handsy guy. But I would also bring a gun 100%
I'd bring Cain Velasquez
@@chrish6734 Speaking of Cain,I legitimately wonder if Brock brought him into WWE solely to avenge his UFC loss to him.
@@colindaniels945 possibly, Brock seems the type that doesn't let anyone get one over on him.
Hogan was upset the fans cheered sid instead of booing him
Scott Steiner “attacked” me and my friends in the parking lot in Yakima, WA after his big bad bootie daddy promo on that Nitro. We jumped in the car with my buddies dad and took off.
context?
@@jahfayne we were talking shit. He ran up to the fence to talk some shit but we hightailed it. Lol. 4th grade.
@@jpatricksurg How does a 4th grader talk shit?
In your house 4 did suck. Vince really thought Mabel was going to be the next big thing. He thought he could move around like Yokozuna. It wasn't until Mabel faced Undertaker who could have a match with anyone that Vince lost hope in him. The rest of the crowd did earlier. Now I am not trying to talk I'll of the dead. Yes he broke Undertaker's orbital bone but The Undertaker gave him another chance. But the Name had to change and the look. And he became part of the Ministry. He did get a little better this time and people liked his gimmick. If Undertaker had to get onto Big Show alot then He really had to get onto Mabel.
Is it wrong that after this I now want Simon to do a Retro Ups and Downs for In Your House 4?
We had him do one for Heroes of Wrestling
So no I’d not be surprised that doesn’t come up very soon now
12 Brown Downs
Shawn probably just wanted to make sure Bret didnt pull a Hogan at Mania 6 after losing to the Warrior. Hogan was supposedly handing the torch to Warrior but made Warrior's title win celebration about himself. Bret even said he didnt think Shawn shoulda gone over. So Shawn was making sure Bret didnt flub up his torch moment.
Watched some vader stuff last night Michael's pushing him out of the ring after summerslam big pos move.vader would have broke Michael's in half could literally see the fear in his eyes when he was about to get powerbomed he shit his pants
And it’s fitting cause while he’s not acknowledged as being as terrifying to deal with then the likes of Andre the Giant, Meng, or Harley Race
Vader is a guy you legit don’t mess with even though he’s generally a great guy
I mean it’s telling that egomaniac Inoki of all people let Vader beat him clean in Tokyo for his IWGP Title during his personal reign of terror (depending on who you ask regarding the time Inoki had a stranglehold on his company’s top title)
@@arashitendou5941 even Andre the Giant was scared of Harley Race, that is proven if you look into it. Harley was also one of the few to slam Andre before Hogan did at Mania 3
So next weeks retro ups and downs is going to be in your house 4 right?
superb work
8:50 And Vince didn’t even stay with the wrestlers until they got out, he got in his private jet and left them.
As did Brock
Love how you present your videos.
You gotta give Vince credit. Cutting the feed on the pet project of a person known for killing media figures, because of a payment dispute? The Man has balls.
I don't see Jericho challenging Brock as a moment of insanity. Jericho is a legit badass whose toughness is overlooked because of his size. I believe he could hold his own against Lesnar in a street fight.
Yeah Jericho can compete with UFC heavyweights 😁😂 haha yeah right
@@derekbonin4996 you need to understand the difference between a street fight and a regulated fight with rules.
@@chaoticdays which is even worse for Jericho because nobody would break up the fight when getting pounded, street fights are dangerous, you can get knocked out and somebody can keep hitting you, which is not cool, that would put Jericho in even more danger on the street
@@derekbonin4996 not necessarily. Brock would overpower him no doubt, but since there are no rules Jericho would fight dirty to survive. In a street fight, the most vicious usually has the upper hand and I think Jericho could be more vicious than Brock if required.
Will never forgive WWE for not letting JR call the taker vs Michael’s match !💯
Geez steph was so cute back in 98-99
She was my celebrity crush back then. Mind you, she was holding her own with the likes of Jennifer Lopez and Britney Spears at her peak in my view. Early McMahon-Helmsley Stephanie was even better with her talent at playing a heel (she must have inherited that from Vince).
A good pump up the knickers indeed yes.
Ew
I see both sides of that thing with Titus. Teddy Long said it perfectly when he was asked about it. Titus Plays Too Much. That was not the time. Even if it was true that it was so he would let Stephanie go through first that wasn't his place. All that was too serious for him to be screwing around. But I do agree Vince's reaction was WAY over the top. Suspending him for 3 months so he misses Wrestlemania and having to be talked down from not firing him? That is over kill. Take him off tv a couple of shows let that hit to his wallet be his lesson.
Vince was just pissed off about whatever that night he suspended Titus. Probably just on his rag.
I think Vince just thinks of him self as some kind of god and us peasants shouldn't be allowed to touch him
I always though Shawn was saying it about Jose Lothario and not Bret.
Same
imo that was brace from jericho. it shows he will stand up to anyone and isn’t scared of them either.
I love when z Simon is not on screen because he has problem with his arms. I didn't know arms can go in those directions . At least he scares me so I i escape to a better host.
The older Vince gets, the more he looks like Parker from Thunderbirds.
that saudi thing was pretty scary like shit couldve hit the fan
And reason number 3 as to why no one outside of Vince and those who support him on this matter are happy with the Saudi deal regardless of the money involved
Simon, love your videos but a quick question. Why, in number one, did you not mention how it screwed us in Buffalo, New York out of a proper Smackdown the night after? I mean, we're already screwed for living in Buffalo. That was something that just wasn't needed.
I live in buffalo NY too
I know Shawn's attitude problem. But the Mania 12 fiasco is understandable. You just wrestled for 1 hour and you don't know how much time you got before the feed cuts (see Raw in 97) to celebrate. So he may have phrased it wrongly, but I see his point.
The Mick Foley fall was his own idea.
The fall to the Table yes, the fall through the cell wasn't planned.
@@supersasukemaniac Bull. Why was the cage breaking apart in that spot, with zip ties falling to the mat?
Pro wrestling cages are not held together with zip ties. He was lying to his wife because he knew he'd get a ton of heat at home.
It was OBVIOUSLY a planned spot. What, do you think they were just going to gingerly climb down together when the were done fighting up there? Was Undertaker going to pin Mick up there? Would the referee have climbed up to count, or just do it by looking up?
Don't be so gullible.
Titus o Neil gave Vince a hug when he wasn't allowed to touch him.
Insane.
The answer is Jericho is INSANE
Wwe should stay the hell out of middle east.
Titus scared the shit out of the boss that's what almost got him fired that's what I want to believe
Nah, the old man is obviously sinking into dementia and a single unwanted touch flashes him back to the numerous unwanted touches he had when he was a kid- historical fact. Losing touch with reality as he grows old can't be a good experience for a man that was once the greatest mind in wrestling.
Well if you fire a dude for just congratulating your wife on her bid for governship, like Abraham Washington did, I’m not surprised he freak out an try to fire a guy for just wanting to physically acknowledge his boss during a generally heartwarming scene
Nah, both of y'all are wrong Titus O'Neil grabbed this McMahon's arm out of chivalry for Stephanie McMahon He said he felt Stephanie should walk before Vince seeing that she's a woman..
@@jfthereaper927 titus the simp o neal
@@jfthereaper927 he shouldn’t have touched Vince in the first place. They aren’t friends, you aren’t friends with your boss.
Oh Jericho is definitely insane
Undertaker throwing mankind off the hell in the cell is literally like one of the times I said holy shit
Goldberg throwing a tantrum after Armageddon 2003
I don’t feel that Jericho is crazy for possibly wanting to commence w the good hands w Lesnar, just because you’ve someone has done MMA that they can’t get handled outside of it......anybody can get got. Ask Batista about how he got got by Booker T as well as ask Lesnar about the late Curt Henning
Jericho had the better of Goldberg in a fight as well. I think Brock would win but it wouldnt be as straight forward as some might think. I bet Jericho can take a beating as well. Hed just keep getting back up.
What’s crazy is the bump from the top of the ladder to the stack of tables taken by bubba ray and the undertaker is talked about way less but was a lot worse than foley falling off the 16’ he’ll in a cell onto one table
Honestly it's the second fall from the cell, or rather through the cell, that's really hard to watch. The one onto the announce table is more visually shocking but the other one wasnt planned and he took a chair to the head on the way down, that's why he was so out of it afterwards
The Randy no sale reminds me of the night after wrestlemania in Seattle when Goldberg debuted and spared the Rock before the show went off air right after the Rock went up to a little kids in the front row and did the if your small what the Rock is cooking gimmick with him
Bernice's Girdle Hurdles
When The Undertaker got arrested in 1999 but they didn’t tell us why he got arrested next day on Raw Is War
Taker is such a powerhouse that he even had Vince sh!tting his pants after Taker stood backstage waiting for him after the Bret Hart incident.
If Shawn Michaels and Taker want to have some beers after a match that incredible, so fucking what. Those brews were hard earned, can I get a hell yeah?
The gang gets held hostage in Saudi Arabia
Chris Jericho is a boss
Backstage post match: undertaker vs mohammad hasan
With every new negative story its amazing anyone works for Vince
And then number 1 happens. Holy fucking shit I forgot about that
WWE just seems like a horrible place to work in.
The “Lion Heart” Chris Jericho!!!
Jim Cornette threatened to shoot Lesnar
Well....... That's a big dude..
No he didn't. You don't even know what he said, it's obvious.
Chris Jericho is bravely insane.
In your house 4? No wonder the WWE never does TV in Winnipeg
Shawn Michaels was a real prick back in the day. Yet somehow we all really love him. Including me❤
It helps he repeatedly acknowledges his actions and has admitted to really hating how much an a-hole he was in the 80s-90s
When you constantly do this and accept when it’s brought up in conversation, especially with how much he’s done, you can’t help but appreciate the fact he accepts it and allows it to be constantly brought up and explained
The fact he probably can’t go a single interview without at least one incident being brought up and rolls with it speaks volumes
Agree
and, when you're pretty much the FEATURED storyline... d× every Monday, the last thing you probably want to hear is ideas from fans, other wwe 'folks' talents and maybe even creative, hey I got an idea 4u.... he's the best thing going at the time, don't need to tell him how to do his job
The Hart family curse should be an episode. By far the best technical wrestlers Bret and Owen were the most talent wwf wrestlers. Bulldog, Jim Neidhart 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Smoking crack isn't a curse
10 things WhatCulture doesn’t want you to know about Adam from WhatCulture👀
Which one?
Keegan loves you
08:31 Rest In Peace. ❤️
Titus: never understood why people don’t understand Vince’s reaction. There’s something especially infuriating when another man: 1. Implies he’s Mr. Chivalry, 2. Implies YOU are in need of a “how to treat women” class, taught by him, 3. Does this all in front of other people. 4. Does this in front of a woman you’re interested in.
Nine times out of ten, it’s a guy “going into business for himself” to look like the babyface. It’s the most enraging thing. I’ve seen a decent bar fight started by this exact
And it’s not just about sex/romance. If another guy did the above with a female relative, I’d get almost as pissed, because again he’s (in your head) diminishing your manhood to exaggerate his own.
“oh no, YOU obviously don’t know how to behave, does he gals? Let me demonstrate for you.”
So, all that and it being on national television, I understand where Vince was coming from, though obviously Titus is just a good guy and didn’t mean any of the above. I’m not saying Vince was right, just that his out of proportion reaction makes some sense.
The Undertaker thing isn't very accurate, as he even said outright that Vince was already on the way down to talk to Bret. He didn't force him to do it and they kind of just walked back together before it turned into Vince and Bret screaming at each other
At this point between shawn and bret at mania 12, they agreed on the f*** outta my ring shtick to work the boys into thinking they had heat. Shawn and Bret have said many times they were reporting in the dirt sheets there were problems before they really were.
I cant believe I haven't watched stuff like beyond the mat
I've seen it. Give it a watch.
I've never met a legend before
It's compelling stuff. Although the Jake the snake stuff is a bit depressing
It's not that good...HIGHLY overrated.
Hogan and Shawn really was selfish
Undertaker is cool asf, but it's wise not to get on his bad side and I highly believe that's what Vince was avoiding all these years. But now I see why certain and current wrestlers left WWE to AEW or Impact, WWE Backstage Drama that'll never be discussed on live television.