Programming Ascending Back Off Sets

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • There are many strategies that can be implemented in regards to back off sets, but a current one I have been finding really good utility with is ascending back off sets. In this method, after your top set you are taking a decent drop back, and then re-ascending back up in weight to another "top set" or somewhat heavy back off set. This is nothing new by any means, but in my latest RUclips video I break down the full reasoning behind this. I discuss the 4 main reasons I may program this based on characteristics with responses I see from individual lifters. I look at how to program ascending back off work and why I bias to an RPE approach with this strategy. And lastly I take a look at some data breaking down the actual performance of one of my lifters in regards to their performance with ascending back off sets vs a % drop from their top set and how this decreased the strength drop off we saw, increased their quality of back off work, and decreased their intra set fatigue accumulation.
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Комментарии • 34

  • @derekrunnels978
    @derekrunnels978 Год назад +12

    hardest part of this would be putting the weights on the bar and then taking them off and then putting them back on and then taking them off 😅

  • @JoeStanek
    @JoeStanek Год назад +6

    Steve why was I thinking about exactly this today and you just happen to post a video

  • @quentindooley1410
    @quentindooley1410 Год назад +6

    I genuinely think about this and why it’s done versus decreasing weight and the logic behind it. I now understand 🤯

  • @guyfrowny
    @guyfrowny 8 месяцев назад +3

    I've recently starting using this strategy with great success in my lifting. For some reason it changes my perceived difficulty tremendously. I am not sure on this idea but it also feels safer for joints and connective tissue.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  8 месяцев назад +2

      That perceived difficulty just comes back around to the psychological component, likely keeping you more engaged with each set.

  • @vcorkleth
    @vcorkleth Год назад +4

    This video has great timing. I was planning on experimenting with this concept that's basically you're first example of hitting a top set with the competition lifts and then pyramiding back up to a down-set with a close variation.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Год назад +1

      Awesome, hope that goes well, that definitely and example where I think this setup would be of benefit.

  • @powerlifter1450
    @powerlifter1450 Год назад +2

    When you program the back-off sets with the % drop -in your sample programs - what kinds of RPE do you assume they will be about? I don't think I've had one set that's been over a 5 RPE and I'm almost done with block 2 of the 2022 program. Would you recommend the ascending sets of the %s back-offs are "too easy"? Thanks!

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Год назад +2

      I’ll talk about that more I’m the Powerlifting Now video. But the gree program is a template, 1 person might say all back offs feel super hard and some might say they ever go above a 5 RPE.

  • @shakedaviman10
    @shakedaviman10 11 дней назад +1

    what else do i need to watch or read if I didn't understand the video?

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  11 дней назад +1

      Muscle and strength pyramids by Eric helms for a baseline of programming knowledge

    • @shakedaviman10
      @shakedaviman10 11 дней назад

      @@PRsPerformance thats the blue cover right?

  • @Hassan__Sobh
    @Hassan__Sobh 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this video, trying this on one of my clients training cycles!

  • @StephColbertsonStrength
    @StephColbertsonStrength Год назад +3

    I feel like I’m a lifter that could benefit from something like this. My backdown work tends to suffer quite a bit from a top set but perhaps using a few sets for recovery might work well.
    Almost like if your were doing intervals as a runner; those lower exertion sets are your recovery jog before hitting the next interval.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Год назад

      Yep sounds like this might be able to help!

    • @VCCrescit
      @VCCrescit Год назад +4

      As the actual guinea pig in this video, I agree that it feels like getting a bit more room to refocus and regroup before the next "hard set" / second top set. Still trying to focus the best I can on each set, but having that first easy backoff almost brings more recovery than it costs fatigue - kind of like having an easy squat session between 2 harder ones if you look at a weekly structure, if that makes sense
      So could be worth a try for you as well!

  • @kellybardwell3290
    @kellybardwell3290 Год назад +1

    When would you implement this? Strength block ? :)

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Год назад +1

      Any time, if its relevant to what the lifter needs.

  • @rishabhjayasimha4788
    @rishabhjayasimha4788 11 месяцев назад +1

    Is it feasible to program backoffs as ascending sets into my top set instead of after my top set? I feel like my injury flares up only on my backoffs and never on my topsets

  • @kapoioBCS
    @kapoioBCS Год назад +1

    I think if the last back of set is an AMRAP it works very well and it is easier psychological and you get quite nice mental and confident boost with a lot of stimulus (for bench)
    For squats and deadlifts is another whole beast.

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Год назад

      I will occasionally use amraps on bench, my only kick back is I typically wanted to control volume a bit more with dry rep ranges personally. Amraps can start to vary the per session tonnage based on individual performance on them.

  • @saz1471
    @saz1471 Год назад +1

    video production quality has gotten really awesome

  • @rainjango4410
    @rainjango4410 Год назад +1

    Hey, I've heard that some programs go topset rpe 5-8 for 3 reps one block and then rpe 6-9 the next block for 3 reps.
    Then back to rpe 5-8, 2 reps etc.....
    My question - as an intermediate, is there any point in doing this?
    Is this for advanced lifters only?

    • @PRsPerformance
      @PRsPerformance  Год назад

      That is a perfectly fine strategy for anyone.

    • @rainjango4410
      @rainjango4410 Год назад

      @@PRsPerformance you're very good at staying neutral!
      But is it optimal?

  • @retardedfroggo
    @retardedfroggo Год назад +1

    If I subscribe to powerlifting now, do I get access to all previous videos? Or just videos from upcoming months?