Training to Join the Military - Featuring Ret. Marine Raider MSgt Cody Alford
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Two Marine Raiders answer your questions about training for the military. How should I train to join the military? What courses should I take? What level of physical fitness should I be at? How good should I be able to shoot guns?
Ret. Marine Raider MSgt Cody Alford and I discuss what you should be doing to prep to join the military.
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I remember when Cody first got to 2/1 scout Snipers I said get in the pool he jumped in and sank right to the bottom. I pulled him out and he said sorry SSGT i cant swim I said why did you jump in he said, " you said get in the pool and I will do what ever it takes to be a Scout Sniper."
That's pretty hardcore
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Wouldn’t he have learned in boot camp lol?
@@BKamin14 no they just float and pass....there were only 2 of us in boot that they made us WSQ as a requirement, they knew we were going 0311 ..I am a fish so all was great
Joel Miller weird
Advice from a Parris Island DI:
1. Listen to what we tell you, we are making you do it for a reason.
2. If you think you can or if you think you can't do something at boot camp, just do it and try it. If we are telling you to do it, you probably can.
3. Move fast.
4. When we tell you to fucking SCREAM, fucking SCREAM until your voice goes to shit.
5. Do not give up. If you want the title of Marine, or DI, or MARSOC Raider, or whatever, you won't give up.
Are you still there?
I’m looking forward to seeing you next year homie
Jay T. He’s not your fuckin boy
@Scott Page USMC nigga what gangsta shit😭 goofy ass
Sounds like some HSST list era drill instructor advice.
Basically, it's all about the grind and the mindset
And proper training.
For all the guys in highschool still, most highschools have competitive swim teams!
Its physical too, if you don't train you will not even make it past screening or primer. Push yourself now because no matter how much material you watch, you will never be mentally prepared for what you are about to go through. Just trust me on that
And your FEET.
"Nobody who gave his best regretted it."
I joined the USMC in 1958 -1962 just turned 17 and weight was 135 lbs 6 ' 1 " I had no problem passing all PT test actually the bigger guys had more problems and especially on long walks in the humidity and heat in the mountains of Okinawa some of our Sergeants were really out of shape of course they fought the Island wars and Korea and were starting to retire most were a great bunch of guys and all hero's to me. Thanks guys for your service " Salute "
I leave for parris island augest 2019. My top selected MOS is 1371 combat engineer 🤙🤘
I’m shipping there the same time, see you on the other side.
Godspeed & good luck Keeton from an old Navy vet.
@@light9906 You too son!
my DI was a combat engineer. Said he hated his life until he got a lat move. Choose your mos carefully because thats your life for the next 2 to 4 years.
As a former combat engineer I can tell you I loved it. Try to go to a division unit. That’s where it’s at. I was only able to be in a logistics unit. It wasn’t THAT bad but I feel that I would’ve been a way better engineer if I had been at a division unit.
Man, this brings back memories of the PJ pipeline. My mindset was “this class will graduate on (date), I will either be standing tall with my team or somewhere wishing I was. These courses have a different objective but the same purpose. Keep you in a place where you aren’t sure if you can make it for as long as your body can handle it.
Did you graduate with your team ?
Went into bootcamp 141lbs and came out at 168lbs. I ate EVERYTHING. I was freaking starving.
PS: you guys talked so highly of 0371 Combat engineer. Well I'm a combat engineer made me feel pretty proud with such good guys like you talking so highly of us!
amazing podcast. i didn’t want it to end
"What did I want more in life? Did I want excuses or did I want actions?"
Dude looks young as hell for a MSgt
gavin andres that’s what I was thinking
Youngster E- 11 ever only took him 11 years to get there
Hes the youngest MSGT in Morden Day Marine Corps
@@nickjohnson710 Cody is an E-8 brother
It takes a Marine normally 15 years to pick up E8
However Cody is no normal Marine
This was a great conversation bro! I especially like the part where you guys were talking about how folks say "well I was only..." and they short change themselves. It kinda breaks my heart when I hear that. If you raised your right hand and served, your a badass in my eyes because not everyone can do that. So I think that was a major great thing to point out. Great job!
Hey I was just wanted to say thank you! Because I got out of the marine corps last year for my family but all my buddies are still in going in country and I was feeling like I didn’t do enough with my time in and really bringing myself down. But what you talked about having courage just to serve really helped so thank you!
Sadly, I'm a "I was going to but" guy. Diagnosed with an incredibly rare kidney disease before I went to MEPS. But I'm still trying!
Andy Seif was an engineer before he became a CSO. He was that force multiplier you are talking about. He could not even walk across the FOB without someone calling him for help. A grate guy and a grate loss to MARSOC.
I was 6'3" 165 when I got out . Just about anyone can do the physical progressions to pass special forces training. The failure is usually due to the mental stress from the pace required while extremely fatigued to assimilate the material needed to succeed. How well can you mentally function when your physically crushed?
Spent 6 years as an 1833, did time with 3rd tracks and 4th AABn. At the time it did not seem like this badass job like what you may see on the posters but looking back at it I had a very cool and unique experience many do not get to experience. Plus it was hilarious sticking pennies on the top of the vehicle and getting a little extra water in the dungeon and seeing the grunts freak out!!!!
Im not military, but i can see how being open minded and having other skills can also help. I only have 13 years in the private security industry and been a medical assistant and a phlebotomist for 5 years. I work for pain management doctor, my observation skills have started paying off seeing people high, or lying. Im not to smart but seeing it from my perspective can help my personal development thanks.
17:50 to 18:00 made me proud to be "just" a marine reservist heavy equipment operator.
No way ur equipment operator? Thats what i want todo when i join. Same thing reserves. I felt the same way to ive been going back and forth with myself of how i really want to go active duty and like they say in the video and do cool shit. But at the same time i own a business at 18 and have so much that i don't wana walk away from. But like he says join then see how u feel. I understood that cause the grass i always greener and have figured out before the grass never is.
Same just enlisted in the reserves so as to continue my college education and pursue an officer commision once I got my bachelors and was just thinking about all the shit I'd get for being a network admin reservist and not making the active duty commitment but I don't care what people have to say but happy to know somebody got my back.
I was 1345 Equipment operator. That job has opened many doors for me outside of the Corps. I was in 1990-1994. The last 8 years I have made 80 to 100k working for a coal mining company. Don’t feel like your job isn’t as important as a infantry marine.
I’m absolutely awful at learning languages. I’ve tried twice and realized it is something I’ve struggle with. I didn’t realize until now that it could help me with Marines. Knowing that it is now a objective for me to figure out my shit and learn a language to get ready. Thanks for the video and advice
Love how you'll talking about how great of haveing a pog mos be for becoming a recon or raider soft skills are relly helpful guy's
I've been thinking about the military for a bit now. Not sure what branch. But airforce has crossed my mind alot. Just gotta drop some weight. This vid has helped alot. 🙂👍
Great conversation. I think we’ve all heard, and many of us understand that its “okay to fail”, but when it comes to the military / SOF selection, I make no room for failure in my own mind - even if I gave my all after having prepared as thoroughly as possible. It’s reassuring to hear from a couple of studs such as yourselves that you don’t have to fit the stereotypical mold to be a valuable member of society and potentially the SOF community as well. Thank you for starting this new channel, I’m looking forward to more interviews!
I wish it was possible to watch this before I signed up in 97.
I understand what your saying about different mos . But in my days 85-00, we were 03s some comm guys and docs, we all learned how to do everything, we learned engines, Hotwire vehicles, we did all the schools the training and missions . We also did all missions green, black and gray. You lifted on own time, running, swimming and long cards daily. Hand to hand 4 days a week. Plus we at 3rd Recon was a 6 day work week . But Plts. and Co. Deployed all the time, never just staying in Okinawa. Mine the DRP inserted into a different country for ops every 30 days. So as platoon we maybe spent 60 days out of year in OKINAWA
I’m an 0311 and I think like MSgt Alford, I don’t like it but I do, I don’t want to have to deal with the toxicity of the politics in the infantry because of my “popularity status” or whatever it may be. Plus the doing nothing is killing me, I just want to work but as an 03 and so I’m just trying to get in shape for ANS, and I’m going to shoot to be a raider.
Wyatt Savoy how do you like 0311? I plan on joining military, and everyone I’ve talked to is dead against being infantry.
Cotton Mouth guess it depends on your unit, when I was in, it felt like high school with guns. There were cliques, it was a popularity contest, pretty toxic environment sometimes, but like I said your experience might be different. The training is fun, I will say that lol
Being an 0311 you guys are definitely the cream of the crop yes I’m a marine but I never had what it takes to be one of you thank you for your service devil dogs!!
Never quiet! I my RIP class we had 7 guys at the end. After the last swim test in the pac ocean, the gunny told us we one last event to pick up our rucks and hump back to Telega. Three of pick up our rucks and just started hump. The gunny stop us and told us to get in the truck, you three made it. The four other whom didn’t start and complained were gone from First Recon. Recon 84-87
It should say never quit! Great spell check
I will say that while it's not for everyone I've never regretted joining the military and the route I've taken. It's been alot of fun and I've met so many truly awesome dudes.
I really enjoyed this, I leave for marine corps boot camp 11/19/18 my mos is security force and watching stuff like this really shows me there's soo many opportunities and I'm open to most of them. P.s some friendly criticism let your guests talk more and interrupt them a little less.
Don't take advice from these F'ing liars! These pussies are valor stealing, lying pieces of shit.
Good, it’s good to have that mindset of not necessarily positivity, but the willingness to weather the storm/ shit storm that is sometimes the corps. Security Forces is only for two years, then you PCS to the fleet. If your monitor for your MOS let’s you, you may be able to go back to security forces in a higher leadership position than you were before out of BSG. For your first time completing your security forces tour, you will get your 100 points towards your promotion, meaning you will be in a leadership position in the fleet. Security forces focuses on different things than fleet infantry does, so since you have been practicing different skills for two years, you will be a little behind on straight leg victor unit skills. That’s alright, just don’t focus on how special you are because you came from security forces, and be willing to learn new things and acknowledge people of a lower rank than you may know more than you. You have to rise to the occasion, especially as a nco. Also for security forces, you tend to focus more on defensive, cqb, non lethal, and use of force tactics. This means you don’t hike as much as regular grunts or learn their offensive, supporting arms, company and battalion level tactics and above (since security forces always operates in smaller teams than fleet infantry) knowledge. In general though, just know the Marine Corps only promises you one thing, and that is to be a Marine. Anything else after that is up to luck, and to you. Keep your head up, see the big picture, stay away from demotivated lance corporals, and realize the Marine Corps is special, so instead of focusing on yourself, focus on how you can help others and make the Marine Corps better than you left it.
@@cm-pr2ys dude thanks a lot I'll make sure to remember that, much appreciated
What exact part of Security Forces are you interested in? Yankee White (guarding the president/ Marine One-you never deploy or go anywhere or do much infantry training, but it looks great on your future resume), Personnel Reliability Program (PRP- either in Bangor, Washington State, or King’s Bay, Georgia. You also will never deploy since they guard nukes stateside), and Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST-probably the best option, since they usually go to Cuba, and each of their 3 companies go to either Rota, Spain, Yokosuka, Japan, or Bahrain.) I have heard that at BSG, there is no for sure way to get FAST unless you pass at the top of your class. If you don’t want to be at the top of your class, then I have heard the unofficial way to avoid PRP is to tell them you aren’t comfortable around nukes. I think any of the three options in Security Forces gives you a top secret clearance, and also, make sure the security forces contract you sign does NOT include Yankee White presidential guard IF that is not what you want. I have heard that if you qualify for a top secret clearance (based on a clean background check they run on you) AND pass the screening process for Yankee White, you WILL go Yankee White, bar none. Also, you will be OC sprayed in Security Forces , and everyone reacts differently, however, I can tell you it was the single worst pain I ever had in my life. Just to let you know. You will have to do it to pass the school. The school, called Basic Security Guard (BSG) school, is in Chesapeake, VA. It is about a month and a half currently, and i have heard it isn’t too bad, there is a lot of material but it isn’t too hard mentally or physically. After you complete it, you get your orders for either YW, PRP, or FAST. All the FAST companies are in Norfolk, and YW is obviously in DC. Don’t forget to focus on boot camp and itb first. If I told you something you aren’t sure about or you don’t like, please go and look it up on your own, or, ask someone like they said in this video. I have heard former security forces marines say it was a waste of time since all they do is set up concertina wire and practice “deadly force” instead of focusing on offensive infantry shit, and I have heard security forces marines say they got so much training and the rumored to be unprofessional FAST units are better than their fleet infantry unit, so it is a toss up on who your leaders in security forces are, really. Since security forces is only a two year tour, you don’t have a dedicated cadre of NCO’s to really mentor you and set the example, it is just SNCOS since everyone leaves so soon and corporals that are as boot as you are leading you. Finally, just know that even though it is peacetime and we might not be going to war so FAST can give you more training, security forces makes you have an EXTRA YEAR onto your entire active duty enlistment contract. So that means while all your buddies are eas’ing after 4 years, you have a whole nother year to serve.
@@cm-pr2ys so I for sure wanna go fast team route and I already signed my 5year contract no presidential guard in it, thank God. I have a few cousins in the marines 0311s so they help out a lot when it comes to advice. What's the best and worst thing about security forces and what are things I should and shouldn't do. Are classes hard?
Very informative - I've been out for three decades, lots of changes since my time. Thank you guys for sharing your experiences.
Iam from Germany. iam not in the military, but i want to apply to the german version of swat , so i watch these videos as fitnessmotivation ;)
Alpha Co 1st BN 4th MAR 94 - 98(Raiders).... Thank you for the show. Keep these younger generations in check and enlightened.
Nice video!👍 We had a saying in the Navy “choose your rate (MOS), choose your fate.” This holds true for all services, decide what you want to be and work towards that , one step at a time. You cannot step out into the forces and become a Raider or SEAL or officer if that is the goal, it takes baby steps and patience. If only your older wiser self could have given this advice to your younger self.
Yea I’m never going Raider/Scout Sniper/MARSOC but this shit was pretty motivational and educating
Funny boot camp story:
One of the recruits that came from Texas, grew up on a ranch. Grew up hunting his whole life. Knew everything about firearms. Bragged all cycle how he was going to shoot company high. Well once rifle qual. Day came, he was the only one in our 52 man platoon to shoot sharp shooter lol. Moral of the story, don’t worry about all the technical stuff. Weather it be boot camp, or recon, or even MARSOC. Just worry about being physically fit and everything else will fall in place.
Had a guy tell me one time....that Drill Sargent, that PT Instructor, that Weapons Tech, none of them can stop that clock. Just hang tough, keep digging and you’ll succeed.
This is the video that every “Billy Bad Ass” needs to see. It should be played at every recruiting station.
I leave for boot camp june 10, haha I have an infantry contract and I want to move to marsoc as soon as the Marine Corps Allows me, I guess i'll be that tank whippersnapper you were talking about!
Godspeed & good luck son.
Endurance, devotion, perseverance. Shoot for 100% if you fall short you are still above the standard. Even if you are at your peak situations will differ. Chaos will define you. Just go for it. A cheetah doesn't warm up before a hunt. Cody my brother.
Thanks guys! You two have walked thru hell and back. you deserve all the help you need.Real men ask for help when they need it. Good talk
The new channel is awesome!
So true. Met a Brazilian comm guy who spoke 4 in demand languages and monitor sent him to Marsoc straight out of MOS school. He was banking an extra $1000 a month.
Just wanted to say how much that I enjoyed this video. The advice, and general comments for young men and women just starting out, I think is so valuable in all walks of life. I didn't serve in the military, but chose the fire service instead, but I think that this advice and information would be great for anybody wanting to be a part of something bigger than themselves. P.S. My dad was a Vietnam veteran USMC 3rd Marines....so I have great respect and admiration for the Marine Corps! Thanks for what you do for us, God Bless!
That was very informative and well done.
You tube algorytm sent this ancient FMF Corpsman to your site. It would be appreciated f you could interview your Corpsmen. SF , Mike
I thank you for your service but one thing God has a plan for all of us. I was pre enlisted i had went to meps did physical the lil small swearing in but i ended up crushing L2,3,4 doing bench squats in the gym prepping for my ship date. So there are some buts i believe that are believable. My love was all in for the Corp. I was so devastated, it literally sent me into a tail spin with so much opiate intake that ended up almost costing me my life. But it never changed my patriotic love for this COUNTRY. I'd still go right now if i didn't have to train. Unfortunately i can't sit or stand for more than a hr at a time. But another thing the grace of God got me threw my addiction to opiates and over the depression. I'm praying for you, your message, and your channel. God bless
Best advice video I have seen. Especially the part about how you don't need to be infantry to go special operations.
Me too!! Bad COMPANY!!😒😒! Focus baby!! Focus !! Drive....& strive hard !!
I will say I signed up in May of 2006 and I wanted to go to war and I’ll say be careful what you wish for because I got way more then I wished for now I’m 100% p and t scared up fake hips and a lot wrong with me. Good job all you brothers and rip to the heros that didn’t make it back
Cody is so smart bro. Gotta listen to the podcast
Great advice 👍 Cody. Also, great advice as well Nick... Knew a Colombia Computer Science that was Cyber Enlisted. They repaid his school loans and he got a bonus. I think he went Air National Guard.....
This was really helpful, thanks. Trying to decide between infantry and SIGINT. That bit about MARSOC allowing any MOS to go through the screening really helped sway that decision, thank you!
John "Rip" Riley was a great Marine Recon and he was hanging on the bridge under through fierce battle for 3 hours and blew it up in Vietnam.
He was, then he did a exchange programme with Royal marine commando and passed the all arms commando course, then served with regimental recce,then went back to the US and started force Recon ,because of his time in recce troop
I agree, Cody! My whole life I told myself I would join the military. Senior year three of my friends did. That summer after high school my really close buddy came to me one day and said he signed with the Marines, I asked for the recruiters number and went and signed. Like I just did it, one day I woke up with no idea in my head of signing and did. It does take lots of bawls to sign with any military branch period! In total myself included have six of us all signed with the Marine corps! It's been a great experience so far and only going to get better.
I could listen to these two for days. Goddamn bad asses. Planning to go *cough* Army 19D and spend the next few years in a Bradley.
Just cuz you’re going 19D means you’ll go to a heavy unit and be in a Bradley. Just a heads up. If you go to a light infranty BCT you may not see a Bradley.
Good information. Wish I would have known some of it while I was in. My sister in law leaves for basic at the end of the month and she’s asked me 100 questions on what to expect. I just tell her, idk how the army does things, but the best advice I can give is exercise as much as you can now, so you will be ready. Other than that it’s all mental.
This opened my eyes thank you
saw yow your video.
Eye opening. keep pushing the envelope buddy. thank you!!!!!
Use common sense, be physically fit, ready to work, and be ready to learn.
Everyone should watch your videos and this one especially.
I have a good friend Felix Acosta "Pete" retired SgtMaj now. He was a Reconnaissance Marine for 16 years at 2nd Recon BN, then went on to be the SgtMaj for 3rd MSOB. I think he went on after that to be the SgtMaj for the Raider Regiment.
Hes got such a formidable appearance but, seems so relatable lol.
The thing is many Marines don't understand what these two Marines are saying until the end of their 1st tour. By that time if you don't have the proper mind set we get out instead of seeking more information to further your career. Semper Fi Brothers
Thanks.
Great info , sent this to junior ( at SOI now ) .. thx again Guys
Listened to an interview with Travis Hailey a couple years ago and he said the worst thing you can do if you wanted to be a force recon or marsoc dude is go in as an infantryman. You will never have time to physically prepare.
Just never give up.
Great video Marines, Semper Fi
Not entitled to the information, and embrace the experience 👌
I like how he said if you joined you’re my friend. I was airborne infantry and on my 18 month mark from joined I was shot 9 times bleeding on a mountain and everyone around me was dead very very traumatizing event and since one of the bullets went through my pelvis I was told I wouldn’t be allowed in the infantry or airborne or rangers or sf and after my deployment I was going to the rangers with my team leader and a couple other and they did passed deployed a bunch but I didn’t I didn’t even make it through one deployment then had brain surgery hip replacement and a couple others but I always say I was just airborne infantry but I’ve learned I did my part In 2007 when I deployed it was a rough one in the waygal valley kunar and nuristan Afghanistan shit was rough but I always wish I could have done more
Im recently serving in the US Army as a Cavalry Scout. And looking at the video I completely agree. Its the same in the Army. My goal is to serve at least 2 branches and the Marines is something i want but know is gonna be just as stupid. Im.doing it for the resume after college
NIGHT STALKERS DONT QUIT. nice.
Excellent discussion.
This was very informative. I’m shipping out to basic in March, chose mos 7051. My plan is to eventually try out for Marsoc.
Great video bro. I was in the corps and all this information I never even knew about MARSOC. In my time they where called recon . I had no idea that they where open to all MOS's .
Thanks guys, really needed to hear this
Worth noting - you don't get paid extra for ANY language, it has to be a language that is needed - e.g. Farsi, Russian, etc.
Nick and Cody, this may be my favorite video yet! I love the appreciation of other mos’s. As an old NBC guy no one wanted to do our stuff but the second your in the field we became one of the most popular people around. “Hey Cpl. so and so could you check my gas mask lol”
ypu guys were lucky when i has in 83 87 they put me in barracks duty .i tried to tranfor out to the fleet a couple times it didnt happen .thing must of changed sence i was in .i think the fleet would of been a better site then guarding gates for three and a half years.some guyes did good and trie out for recon they all made it. Semper fi brother your show is pretty cool keep them coming.
Great Podcast. Glad to see You on RUclips now.
That’s my biggest issue over the last half decade that seems to keep getting worse. I joined right after my seniors got back from Afghan and that was the last rotation to that area. I spent the next 4 years deploying on meus and training comparing myself to combat vets. That’s all I joined for was to go after bad guys and I never got to. This morning a buddy messaged in the group chat someone else just took their own life again. There’s at least 3 marines kill themselves whether it’s been because of that or something else. I always wonder if it’s just me.
Time takes time, good stuff.
Love this podcast dude , best regards from CR ¡
Lol the Swede😂😂
Old ref
I'm gonna love this.. Will this be available as a podcast too? Or just on RUclips? Subscribed anyway, but you know journey's to work and stuff.
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I really want to be a Force Recon Marine or a Marine Raider. I'm really happy to hear that my mos can be almost anything in the marines as long as I'm a unique asset to the team. I thought I can be: Infantry, Combat Engineer, Ground Intelligence Officer or Motor Transport. I really want to be a part of the Special Operations in the marines. If there is any tips that you guys can give me I'd gladly listen! Thank you for the informative video!
Anything in life worth having isnt easy and anything easy isnt worth having
Thanks so much for this great podcast learned a lot from listening to you both. I’m 19 going to join marines have a contract for recon. Been running 3 miles but not six I will amp up my training now. Thanks for your service sender fidelis
I airsoft and 100% agree with all of this. In my sport we acquire such bad habits, as well as over boost confidence, that it puts up a wall for learning more often than not. Besides what is there to lose in learning an extra skill? if the military does not pan out you did not fail; you still learned something new no matter how minor.
🙏🏾😅Great Advice I'm not American and not in the military ....but I really feel your message
Hey Nick and Cody thank you very much for creating this video! Super helpful and a lot of great wisdom that will help me!!
Question: I just enlisted in the Marines in June and I ship out in December, I haven’t sat down with my recruiter yet to pick an MOS or talk about it, the dream for me is to one day earn Force Recon and be apart of the team. You mentioned doing a non-03 MOS first before doing Recon selection, if I did Crash Fire/Rescue can I still go to Recon Selection down the road?
Out of curiosity how much did you weigh going into Marine BMT? I was surprised when you said you came out at 142 because sometimes I worry I don’t have the right build to become special forces, but that’s pretty much where I’m at, 6’ and 145 lbs. My body fat is about 19% and I’ve been strength training for the passed year or so, looking for a pool I can start going to for swimming practice. Just trying to gauge myself a little. Love the videos, really pushing me to be my best and work towards what I want in life.
Nick, I'm 55 years old and I want back in.
Michael 732 Check out the mercenary groups. I met a 60 year old who hung out at our reserve unit who was a Vietnam grunt. Bad ass fucking guy who supported the unit in spiritual development.
You mentioned this towards the end that members of your platoon within Force Recon were mostly other MOS rather than infantry. Therefore, don’t you have to get the MOS infantry designator in order to go into Force Recon? In the Army, you have to go through SOI in order to join Ranger Regiment or Green Beret as a baseline starting step.
Ima fuck around and find out man pray for me
I LOLed when they mentioned “The Sweed”.
So helpful
Wear your ear plugs and be aware of blasts
Hey Cody Long time no see my friend, looking good
Great talk.