I was all aboard the "Kill Chiz" train but I actually found his defence very convincing. But I'm also convinced he would have been able to be that convincing as an Evil player.
i just heard that defence and im utterly unconvinced - mostly because he tried claiming that someone in the noble ping is just as likely to be evil as anyone else... if its a summoner game the noble pings are TWICE as likely to be evil as anyone else (1/6 vs 1/3) and if its not summoner its 1/4 vs 1/3 - the noble pings are pretty much always more likely to be evil
These guys are just so good at this game that I don't see how you can ever guess what's ever actually happening. Tunneling is just so easy to do, especially when a couple dominoes fall in a direction. Sheesh.
I genuinely never understand why anyone ever tries to do social reads, it literally never works. All these players are just too good at lying for it to ever be more effective than random guessing.
Ben when he draws VI: not too much responsibility. Pick a a player learn something, take a note of it. Ben when he draws Virgin: Ohh no! That means I will have to keep track of things and have a lot of responsibility.
@24:51 Things work better in chrome because chrome is so ubiquitious that devs often don't worry about making 'thing work' for anything that isn't chrome. It's not that chrome is better, it's that it's (unfortunately) so much more popular that people don't bother making sure that things work for firefox which creates the illusion of chrome being better.
@@total_dk6517 Oh sure, if you either don't account for or are okay with google tracking everything you do on the internet so that they can build an uncannily¹ accurrate model of who you are as a person to then selling that profile about you specifically to advertisers so that they can beam targeted ads at you, chrome is better. I'm personally not okay with that and think that Chrome has become, through a combination of legal if morally questionable competative practices and proven illegal monopolist's tactics, the single most popular piece of spyware in the world. Which is why I use firefox, because even though some websites are unfortunately sub-optimized for firefox, my privacy's more important to me than any webapp. Tangentally related, I quit league of legends forever the moment they made it so that to playing the game requires you to run an intrusive anti-cheat software that sees every program your computer is running even when league of legends is closed. I was never fidna cheat, but I'm not giving any company that much access to me or data about me. ¹The advertising panopticon has successfully served 'for your new baby' ads to people who were pregnant but didn't yet themselves know they were preggers. That's how good it is at drawing disperate data and building a profile from it.
Its not better. Once upon a time, maybe, but now? Its a bloated privacy nightmare. As a browser it has security issues, tracking issues, privacy issues, as well as being a resource hog on top of that. It is closed source (which means its impossible to know exactly what the browser is doing in the background) - and Google are pushing to implement Manifest v3 with the intent to break stuff like adblockers by not allowing "remotely hosted code" to run in the browser - which adblockers, and quite a lot of other extensions, use to function. The reason why its so popular isn't because its better - Its just being pushed by google and that is what is increasing its popularity tenfold. Its installed as default on chrome books and android phones and since most people are lazy, they just use whatever the default option is - which is often Chrome.
The village idiot might be my favorite experimental character the game has added. It almost seems too powerful, vut then the opportunity for shenanigans are endless. Great game!
I think I remember watching this stream! I don't remember the end of the game, but I remember there is a very clear moment in the game when Ben decides exactly how to go.
I was ready to be outraged at people preferring mayo to ketchup with their chips, but then that meant I'd have to side with the person that uses mayo for breakfast food so I just had to let it go
I was so confused when Iris said mayonnaise is a breakfast food because I've never heard of that anywhere in North America. Turns out Norwegians sometimes just sound like native English speakers.
while the welfare state and norwegian oil money is great, don't worry, scandinavian caviar is NOT what you're thinking of hahaha. We call that "russian caviar" and it's expensive as hell here too :p scandi caviar is like a paste of smoked, salty cod roe. There's even a section on the wikipedia page for popular swedish brand "kalles kaviar" detailing the controversy and confusion in naming the sandwich stuff "caviar". and also this absolute gem of a sentence: "In the 21st century, the Swedish sandwich caviar market has fractured". lol.
I don't understand the benefit of killing damsel as assassin. If it's been found out, wouldn't you just public guess it and win? Or were they just 'oh this would be too boring, lets get it out asap'
It's definitely an unusual choice, but it does let you indirectly communicate with the Demon by choosing night kills, which can yield some interesting responses from said Demon. - Ben
@@BloodontheClocktower Also, Philoing a Lunatic makes the Lunatic ability not work, causing the (now philo-drunk) Lunatic player to know that they are the Lunatic. Edit: This is an interpretation of the Lunatic ability and not confirmed or denied by an official ruling afaik. The general consensus seems to disagree with this interpretation. (Read my comment below.)
@@kittens4021 From Googling a bit, it seems that the general consensus is opposite of what I said (Lunatic doesn't learn that they're the Lunatic). I was basing by comment off of what my (quite experienced) ST friend has done in the past. There is no official ruling afaik. That said, the demon doesn't learn who the Philo-drunk Lunatic picks anymore (as that is part of the Lunatic ability that no longer works), so in that way they will likely figure it out quickly.
Yeah, the Lunatic isn't informed they're the Lunatic just because they're drunk/poisoned, in much the same way as the Drunk doesn't learn they're the drunk if they become drunk/poisoned. - Ben
I definitely prefer ketchup with any fried-potato-based side dish. Mayo goes great on sandwiches, burgers, chicken salad, etc, though. As long as it doesn't have lemon in it. Lemon-mayo can go straight in the garbage for all I care.
depends on the mayo - some nice garlic mayo is absolutely superior to ketchup by far though a nice currysauce or a salsa beat both easily and joppiesauce might be absolute top tier
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I was all aboard the "Kill Chiz" train but I actually found his defence very convincing. But I'm also convinced he would have been able to be that convincing as an Evil player.
i just heard that defence and im utterly unconvinced - mostly because he tried claiming that someone in the noble ping is just as likely to be evil as anyone else... if its a summoner game the noble pings are TWICE as likely to be evil as anyone else (1/6 vs 1/3) and if its not summoner its 1/4 vs 1/3 - the noble pings are pretty much always more likely to be evil
These guys are just so good at this game that I don't see how you can ever guess what's ever actually happening. Tunneling is just so easy to do, especially when a couple dominoes fall in a direction. Sheesh.
Summoner games are especially hard to unpack
I genuinely never understand why anyone ever tries to do social reads, it literally never works. All these players are just too good at lying for it to ever be more effective than random guessing.
they're also really good at being able to tell when other people are lying, especially the people that they play with on a weekly basis
do you want to know a secret? we're not all that good at the game. we just have fun and accuse each other of lying for two hours
Ben when he draws VI: not too much responsibility. Pick a a player learn something, take a note of it.
Ben when he draws Virgin: Ohh no! That means I will have to keep track of things and have a lot of responsibility.
Was there a banshee announcement? Cuz if there was that wasn't kept in through edits.
This.
That really confused me.
Ah yeah, I must have skipped that when editing. Apologies. - Ben
I love seeing Jojo’s kid grow up on stream. They’ve gotten so much bigger!
@24:51 Things work better in chrome because chrome is so ubiquitious that devs often don't worry about making 'thing work' for anything that isn't chrome.
It's not that chrome is better, it's that it's (unfortunately) so much more popular that people don't bother making sure that things work for firefox which creates the illusion of chrome being better.
But by that definition, Chrome *is* better.. Just not due to how it's made, but instead how it's used. The 'truck analogy' falls apart there though.
@@total_dk6517 Oh sure, if you either don't account for or are okay with google tracking everything you do on the internet so that they can build an uncannily¹ accurrate model of who you are as a person to then selling that profile about you specifically to advertisers so that they can beam targeted ads at you, chrome is better.
I'm personally not okay with that and think that Chrome has become, through a combination of legal if morally questionable competative practices and proven illegal monopolist's tactics, the single most popular piece of spyware in the world.
Which is why I use firefox, because even though some websites are unfortunately sub-optimized for firefox, my privacy's more important to me than any webapp.
Tangentally related, I quit league of legends forever the moment they made it so that to playing the game requires you to run an intrusive anti-cheat software that sees every program your computer is running even when league of legends is closed. I was never fidna cheat, but I'm not giving any company that much access to me or data about me.
¹The advertising panopticon has successfully served 'for your new baby' ads to people who were pregnant but didn't yet themselves know they were preggers. That's how good it is at drawing disperate data and building a profile from it.
Its not better. Once upon a time, maybe, but now? Its a bloated privacy nightmare.
As a browser it has security issues, tracking issues, privacy issues, as well as being a resource hog on top of that. It is closed source (which means its impossible to know exactly what the browser is doing in the background) - and Google are pushing to implement Manifest v3 with the intent to break stuff like adblockers by not allowing "remotely hosted code" to run in the browser - which adblockers, and quite a lot of other extensions, use to function.
The reason why its so popular isn't because its better - Its just being pushed by google and that is what is increasing its popularity tenfold. Its installed as default on chrome books and android phones and since most people are lazy, they just use whatever the default option is - which is often Chrome.
I'm always hopping on that train when Ben is in a tunnel. Choo-choo!
The village idiot might be my favorite experimental character the game has added. It almost seems too powerful, vut then the opportunity for shenanigans are endless. Great game!
Every single game makes me feel more that I want to buy and play this game so bad
I think I remember watching this stream! I don't remember the end of the game, but I remember there is a very clear moment in the game when Ben decides exactly how to go.
I’m glad to see Chiz enjoys the magician as much as I do lol.
If I ever see mayo on the breakfast table I'm going to wonder what horror movie I'm in
Chiz literal begging 😂
I was ready to be outraged at people preferring mayo to ketchup with their chips, but then that meant I'd have to side with the person that uses mayo for breakfast food so I just had to let it go
This was a fun game. I’m glad Village Idiot Con had a big turnout!
1:14:50 Samantha "This is a lot of hands!"
No, it's exactly enough hands lol
Alejo lives in Amsterdam?? Are they Dutch? WHAT THE FUCK IS IRIS NORWEGIAN?
Iris is Norwegian but speaks better English than half of England. Alejo lives in the Netherlands, but is originally from England. - Ben
@@BloodontheClocktower Iris' accent is wild, that's actually blowing my mind. I was certain she was American/Canadian
I was so confused when Iris said mayonnaise is a breakfast food because I've never heard of that anywhere in North America. Turns out Norwegians sometimes just sound like native English speakers.
Wow as a Canadian if she said she was born and raised here I’d believe her. I know people who’ve live here for half a century who aren’t as fluent 😮
@@phtowneveryone I've ever met who grew up in Scandinavia speaks perfect English, getting movies with subtitles like they do over there really helps!
9:40 Alex talking about nonsense???? I’m shocked! Shocked I say
"Seafoam" is neither mild or beautiful.
Dude where's my car?
Appropriate to discuss old weed movies when playing Village Idiot.
CAVIAR is common breakfast food in Norway??? Damn I wish I lived in a welfare state
It's usually cod roe in a tube, to be fair. It's quite tasty but not fancy. There's a couple brands available internationally.
while the welfare state and norwegian oil money is great, don't worry, scandinavian caviar is NOT what you're thinking of hahaha. We call that "russian caviar" and it's expensive as hell here too :p scandi caviar is like a paste of smoked, salty cod roe. There's even a section on the wikipedia page for popular swedish brand "kalles kaviar" detailing the controversy and confusion in naming the sandwich stuff "caviar".
and also this absolute gem of a sentence: "In the 21st century, the Swedish sandwich caviar market has fractured". lol.
What a game!
I don't understand the benefit of killing damsel as assassin. If it's been found out, wouldn't you just public guess it and win? Or were they just 'oh this would be too boring, lets get it out asap'
I suspect they didn't know they were the Damsel. - Ben
Why would a Philo choose Lunatic?
It's definitely an unusual choice, but it does let you indirectly communicate with the Demon by choosing night kills, which can yield some interesting responses from said Demon. - Ben
@@BloodontheClocktower Also, Philoing a Lunatic makes the Lunatic ability not work, causing the (now philo-drunk) Lunatic player to know that they are the Lunatic.
Edit: This is an interpretation of the Lunatic ability and not confirmed or denied by an official ruling afaik. The general consensus seems to disagree with this interpretation.
(Read my comment below.)
@@total_dk6517 How does that work exactly? That is, how would an ST run a drunk Lunatic differently than a sober one?
@@kittens4021 From Googling a bit, it seems that the general consensus is opposite of what I said (Lunatic doesn't learn that they're the Lunatic). I was basing by comment off of what my (quite experienced) ST friend has done in the past. There is no official ruling afaik.
That said, the demon doesn't learn who the Philo-drunk Lunatic picks anymore (as that is part of the Lunatic ability that no longer works), so in that way they will likely figure it out quickly.
Yeah, the Lunatic isn't informed they're the Lunatic just because they're drunk/poisoned, in much the same way as the Drunk doesn't learn they're the drunk if they become drunk/poisoned. - Ben
I forgot that I watched this live!
Good script, yes.
Smoking on the new idiot pack of zaza
I definitely prefer ketchup with any fried-potato-based side dish. Mayo goes great on sandwiches, burgers, chicken salad, etc, though. As long as it doesn't have lemon in it. Lemon-mayo can go straight in the garbage for all I care.
saying mayo is better than ketchup with chips is complete madness
Yeah, everyone knows you have to mix them together first for the ultimate sauce
depends on the mayo - some nice garlic mayo is absolutely superior to ketchup by far
though a nice currysauce or a salsa beat both easily
and joppiesauce might be absolute top tier