@@DerHarzDude yeah lol 😂 said right. It's mainly the work of mastering. Compared to her I like Lana del Ray, atleast she kept her vocals, some quit raw.
In GarageBand/Logic, you can do several takes of one part in a row and they automatically line up with eachother - you just have to try to sing on beat :)
Yes as a fellow musician i can confirm this is how it works. You either get it perfect in one take (very rare) or record the hell out of it (99% of the time)
Well Ive been adjusting my friend’s vocal for almost a month now because it sounds “metallic” amd I absolutely do not understand what the problem is and it fucks me off at this point because she gets the vocal every time yet she is insecure about it ffs
@@UltraCodex66If you're adjusting vocals with pitch correction, Melodyne is pretty transparent. Record at a high sample rate (96k) and you'll have more information present so you don't get that metallic sound. Adjust the vocal within a range of 20 cents and you should be pretty good. Or else just record again until it's near there. Best of luck.
Yes and also why live performances sound nothing like album you bought. I remember having this realization upon seeing live music at my first concert I attended. Also part of the reason why certain artists sound like crap live.
This is why the actually production of a song is so impressive because they have to make all of those different sections of vocals to blend together and sound like they all have the same level of volume and stuff like that.
that's not the impressive part, that's the easiest aspect of producing music. getting them the same volume isn't hard, that's all to do with mic placement and the singer singing at the same volume for each take, pretty easy. the difficult part is her ability to sing very , very quietly and have each note be more or less pitch perfect, i can't hear any vocal tuning on this track, now that's impressive.
@@TheNeverists666 I'd say there might be a bit of pitch correction in the breakdown bit. The "you call me again" section. But these vocals are very clean and well sung. I love that Finneas and Billie prefer taking a lot of takes instead of taking a few and tuning it like most artists nowadays.
@@sam_k i was only talking about this section, she definitely uses some pitch correction here and there but that's ok, she can reproduce it live very easily, 87 takes is a lot but she is singing extremely quietly so it is super difficult to nail the pitch at that volume. still i imagine there's a bit of perfectionism there, i believe she probably could have done a solid comp from four/five takes given her ability, i agree man it's better to do many as necessary to get the right one than to pitch correct , generally speaking. unless the take has the right emotion but just wavers a little in pitch or vibrato.
I assumed some artists do this, but I’ve never seen it until now. I started to notice when some artists leave in their breaths and some don’t and you’re singing along & it’s like “do you ever breathe??”
Not all songs are done like this. Heavily perfected pop music is thought. Some artists Def can pull off good enough takes and don’t need comping. 40 years ago you had to do it in one take and if someone messed up you had to start over again lol.
Correct again. That’s why I mix it as close to I can get to what I would perform live. And! After the song is done. It’s basically a new song again. So I have to practice it the way the song plays back. Again for live performances
I'm so happy Billie openly admits she is comping... When I first started recording vocals, I felt super insecure about the fact that I was doing it too, and it's a relief that even such talented singers as Billie are doing it too!
Comping is very useful and extremely common. Ariana Grande even comps breaths, don't feel insecure just look for the best results based on what you like and you will get there no matter what it takes.
@@afriendlyneighbor9624me too! I think I may have had more fun! The kids might be a little pissed off at me. They call me a fake fan 😢😂. I can enjoy what my money pays for!!!😅
Both Finneas and Billie are borderline musical geniuses. Finneas understands how to use sounds to completely transform a musical experience probably more than any other producer in the world. Billie, on the other hand, is essentially like 5 different types of singers in one tiny human. I’ve been a musician for over 30 years and as such, I tend to be able to recognize the mark of an extraordinary musical talent almost immediately when I encounter it. And over the years, I’ve recognized one feature that all of these artists tend to have, which is the ability to make something extraordinarily difficult and complex seem simple and easy. Billie has this quality in spades. It’s amazing.
@@akirathedog777and what exactly are you doing buddy? She is making millions with her talent and you just sit there and judge her and sb who expressed his honest opinion as a musican . Just shut up with all the negativity
I love how she reveals the process. I think it gives more credit to her hard working colleagues who help her and really show that celebrity vocalists names are an entire brand and group of people as opposed to a one man show. Even if one man shows are impressive, it’s nice to think a piece was made and performed by a coalition of effort rather than just always worshipping genius
@@lindajerez2193 nope. the "creation" part of all of their songs come from billie and finneas. only other production help they have are mixing and mastering which basically prepares the createf song for publishing. they have 1 person for mixing HTE, and 3 people who mastered the songs (2 of them mastered one song each while the other guy mastered the rest)
I agree . Props to Billie. I’m a big fan of her music and production but I never knew this or knew people did this. It really makes me appreciate their transparency, but also makes me question other artists and our worship of their “talent” and it further confirms my initial suspicions that a lot of artists electronically modify music, and the art is truly in the editing and production often.
God she and her brother are so talented. I’ve never not been in complete awe of how masterful they are at their craft. They were born to do this. We’re lucky to be alive at a time where we can listen to their music.
Amazing how ignorant people are impressed of this because “bad guy” has over a billion views. This is no talent. As a producer and musician this is 100% what you dont do lol. But oh well. Tiktok mentality i guess.
@@TS-xn1mc being unique is impressive, like when q tip makes beats with a record and needle drops, being too bad at singing to get a good take isn’t impressive.
This is why the value of quality live performances has increased in value over time. We have become used to artists creating in the studio using multi takes but a live performance is so much more ❤🎉
Many if not most high level touring acts are using all kinds of magic live to produce the same effects. Autotune, pre recorded tracks, drum samples, etc
Not really. This is insanely common. If you do any type of layering you will be doing take after take to get the sound and effect right. Partly to maintain any hope of keeping the takes harmonious, but also just to see if something outside of your original idea fits. He is very talented, but kind of overblown because of who his sister is.
@@NealBonesI think that’s likely too. You’d have to know how to do this for his job. But I also believe it does show he is a good one, and that many producers would probably rather work with someone they’d have to do less work for. And bc it’s his sister and they knew she was kinda a plant/would blow up, he does it for the money. And he loves her im sure
She's one of the most talented live singers in the world right now, them showing their process comping vocals doesn't detract from that, it is just them being open and honest about how things work these days
It all depends on if you make music for fame or just cause it's what you do. There is nothing wrong with recording something a thousand times, but using every single take is imo shitty and should be frowned upon like influencers photoshopping photos of themselves before putting them on instagram.
@@selfpromotion4976 Ozzy Osbourne is also severely damaged by drug abuse. and at this point 74 years old. How old is Billie Eilish again? about 17 or something? idk would you expect better or worse from her? Not saying she doesn't do drugs because that is pretty much a gimme in the industry, but she has not had nearly enough time to get to his level. Also yeah thats just a rumor, now what he actually does is he records full takes, then they add stuff on top to get the Ozzy osbourne sound, the slightly hollow reverby sounding voice comes from two takes on top of each other. Hey, the more you know.
@@Rasmustheforest yeah… it was on the show where they said that when he was recording something for someone. The clip was in his later years but he did say that was how he did it. 🤷♂️ personally I have recorded about 4 albums and each was different studios different processes. The fineas and Billie combo is great. The bedroom recording sound is always very intimate and comforting, easily enjoyable.
This is why alot of artists can't sing they song live correctly. It's too hard to breathe that quick between the verse chorus verse sometimes. Schoolboy q is a famous example
It's true that sometimes because of this artists cant perform their songs live but she actually can she's very consistent tbh, she's just very specific about her takes (how many oscillations there are in her vibrato for example) but yea I agree with you
Agreed. I only like singers that can belt out their songs without a microphone and do it justice. Otherwise I’m just listening to a “singer” featuring a computer that had to fix everything. Everyone sounds like robots now.
@@sjoo8 I kinda have a different perspective? I just listen to good songs I personally don’t care how skilled an artist is at replicating a studio recording live. I see the studio recordings as pieces of art, and I think that artists are allowed to use tools to polish them until they sound perfect. As long as it sounds good, anything goes. Singing amazing live is a bonus, and I feel like most people can improve in that with training - making good music is different
@@ishhaatt569 i feel like vocalist and singers are two very different things. my definition of a vocalist is having a good concept of technique, understanding your vocal ability and utilizing it to your fullest potential at that stage in your life wether you’re self-taught or classically trained by someone. some singers are natural vocalist like janis joplin or tina turner, most are trained in choirs like mariah carey & whitney houston, but any singer can work towards becoming a vocalist really.
A perfect, artfully and deliberately curated vocal comp containing 87 different takes and an imperfect, characterful single take are both SO beautiful and satisfying to listen to (and create!). Both approaches can produce magical results. You'd never pick it, but I'm not surprised this is how Billie's vocals are done because when you listen to her recordings, especially the ballad type ones, it feels like every note is deliberated over. The delivery of every detail is considered. Why not do it like that if you feel compelled to? It's a fun thing to focus in on!
The hardest part of making a song is actually deciding how you want to make it. Like being given one of those long balloons for balloon animals. you can make so many different animals in so many different ways but in the end you have to just choose one. I struggle so much deciding which animal to make and how to make it . I'm so jealous of what phineas and billie do together, It's amazing.
Pro tip: Just make something. Anything, even if it's shit. Then do it again, and again, and again, until you get better and understand what sounds, arrangements, and instruments you like and don't like.
This is actually the main reason I'm so amazed by the old musicians, specially Queen. Really. The amount of work they had to go through just to give us their masterpieces...is just incredible.
im sure billie worked hard on this song, but she will never be able to preform like artists who didnt rely on scapes like vocal comps, and the tech the engineer uses to help billy no sound like a pot head
I mean they still just did the exact same thing, it was just a hell of a lot more expensive so only the big acts could do it, now every kid with a laptop can
They could still cut. They just had to cut physical tape, but I hear ya. I will say I think it speaks to her consistency that she has so many edits but the final vocal sounds so authentic, and sounds like 1 or 2 takes.
well prince was one in a zillion lol. there’s no one like him and never will be. but we can still appreciate all the multiple takes to perfect a song as well
This is what happens with a professionally recorded music. That’s why so many singers sound so perfectly clear and crisp and their performances lack any blemishes. People often will say that the perfectly in-tune and inhumanly perfect voice people have in studio recorded songs is because of autotune, but usually it’s just because they can pick from hundreds of takes and string together all of the parts that are perfect. It is the singer’s real voice, it’s just all of their best bits put together, without their imperfections. (I’m not saying that i think there should be no imperfections in recorded music, just that that’s what’s considered desirable generally, and that’s the motivation behind doing it this way)
The pursuit of perfection in studio versions of songs is what makes all live performances pale in comparison. I’d love to see her sing this in one take like Whitney, Mariah and Celine Dione. There’s beauty in imperfection, you don’t always have to be on perfect to sound great as evident by Sia’s voice cracks which sound heavenly
It’s honestly so nice to know how many cuts there are 😭 as a self-producing songwriter I always wonder why I can never get a whole line recorded exactly how I want it
Actually this isn't the reason. As someone with a music studio . . . She literally wants to make it seem like she works harder and maybe she does . . . but she is just trying to go the elitist and pretentious route of going " Oh I didn't use autotune " and it's like . . . No, you didn't. You took a 100 x more difficult array of steps for the same end result. Because autotune is just pitch correction. The robotics and effects that people chum up to autotune aren't autotune. Fact is autotune is used on every professional album by a major label. It's just an ending step. Even people with 100 x more vocal talent use it. It's just a matter of how much you use it whether you've got talent or not. The reason why people don't sound the same live is MOSTLY due to volume equalizing. When you want certain tones or notes you'll have to project which means belting which means you're going to be louder and the volume between that and chest voice . . . especially if you're extending your vocal chords for higher notes is going to mean singing a lot louder. So some people don't like live music because they're used to studio versions tainting what is actually the human voice. In other words a lot of the music you listen to isn't sung how it sounds. Those notes they're reaching will be louder live and so the sound volume is a lot more up and down and not equalized to be less " Oh wow " when the shift into vocal placement happens.
@@ceciliacabrini I have a preference for it myself, hence why while I have nothing against Billie I'm not really a fan. But you bet your ass I'm going to see Florence + the Machine this tour! Ugh no one compares to that woman for me. I'm so happy.
@@iTeacupPanda great conspiracy… literally everyone uses comping literally EVERYONE. It’s a natural and intrinsic part of producing music, heck even people who record covers from their bedroom comp. It’s not that complicated literally any basic software has it
@@userjoao I know what comping is, you dense bitch. My point is NO ONE, including you does it in 2-4 secodn intervals on repeat. Let's say you sing a fucking 3 minute song. Within a 30 second section you shouldn't have 15 cuts in one line. The only way you should is if you're doing vocal layering. Which isn't the case because they're not staggered. Tell me would you have more than 4 sections you had to break together in a 15 second section? Or would you just record it all in one go for that 15 second interval? Maybe pop in a second one at a 3 second section or something. Done?
Literally Finneas is 90 percent of what makes Billie Eilish Billie Eilish, but people don’t wanna talk about that for whatever reason. Cause that would take away from her I guess. But it’s true. She’s just a voice.
comping to this level is really difficult, purely because you have to hide all the cuts, and the tone of your voice has to perfectly match the other takes. This is crazy impressive. They've talked about why this is necessary for their production before. They have a rule that they never use pitch correction (autotune, Melodyne, etc). This means that they just have to do a shit ton of takes until they have a perfect comped recording,. crazy stuff
For real, really proud of her, and actually their haters be wrong, i always saw comments like "depressed girl with microphone can't do music" but bro... This thing might be the biggest slap they rechieved from her
@@liandyogi I’ve tried comping multiple takes before, and just give up and keep recording until I get one take that’s really good. It is very difficult, hard agree. But it also removes some of the imperfect humanity for some artists, to make it sound so perfect. Imperfection is what makes it interesting to listen to. Billie Eilish is GREAT at putting soul in every take, that’s why I was so surprised to see this video. I was 100% sure she wasn’t comping.
Just finished recording my first album in Nashville, and it was absolutely amazing to me how they can punch in different places and blend the different takes together. It’s truly a skill to use all that technology
Seems awfully stupid tbh. If you're going to do 100 cuts why NOT use auto-tune? Autotune is used on EVERY professionally published album EVER since its creation. It's pretty much mandatory. Seems like a form of elitism to go " Oh well I didn't use autotune " , no you didn't. You just chopped your best 100 takes together and Frankenstein'd it for the same end result. Don't get me wrong she's talented but this is dumb. There are people a hundred times more vocally talented who use autotune. It's a matter of how much auto-tune you need of course but she doesn't need a ton either. Also I think people don't know what autotune really is and just chop everything up as autotune. It's just pitch correction really. You know it's impossible to have perfect pitch all the time. Perfect pitch is mathematical and a frequency. You actually can't decipher if it's perfect or not for a fair bit with the human ear. Most people are thinking of excessive reverb or vocoder or something else when they say autotune.
@@iTeacupPanda She definitely has used auto tune while producing, you can hear it in music when artists do. I think the public has a negative view on it even though every artist you have listened to since the late 90s has used it.
@@samanthaohx Yeah but you don't need nearly 100 takes for that. You really don't. I understand timbre and vocal tone, inflection. It's easier to just relisten to it and try to sing every lyric section with a couple takes and be like " Cool " and move onto the next. You'll actually take longer doing 100 4 second clips and trying to blend them together. Than if you broke the song into 5-6 sectors and say . . . rerecorded each one 25 times. ( Which would be a bigger number but obviously you delete the ones you don't like and they're longer sections so they get done faster. and you only have to blend like 5-6 sections of music compared to 87 or w.e. )
@@CenoriaWoah I feel like you're going to take the side that puts you on Billie's side no matter what tbh. No shit it works, but it's the dumbest and least effective way of doing things. I don't even think she works that way usually. This was for some pretentious art-kid " I work so hard, my brain work different. I'm so unique. " clout. Kimbra for example's work is a hundred times more complex sonically and she doesn't put herself through this and her work is entirely nuance, inflection and timber based. lmao Saying " It works " is like saying . . .well you could dig with a shovel or a teaspoon. Yeah the teaspoon will get you out eventually but you're gonna take a lot longer and it's gonna put you through a lot more work for the SAME result. What she is doing isn't improving her work and like I said I don't think she actually does it. It wouldn't surprise me. I mean people lie for pretentious reasons all the time. Look at Aurora.
as a full time producer, not really. he’s not chopping anything he’s looking at a drop down of the 87 tracks and highlighting which part of which take he wants to use. the only part of this that takes a long time is listening to 87 takes multiple times.
@@m0nst3r.x0x0 she does but her biggest talent is in populist songwriting. The production is pretty standard stuff and she’s obviously not a musical genius. Great singer though and great at writing for the current mainstream. Like Charlie Puth but without the perfect pitch and with a little more artistic vision and integrity.
The people who are hating obviously never made music before. You think an artist is gonna sing a full take in one breathe? Use your head.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Only a small group of people know how satisfying it is to cut separate audio files, especially of vocals, and seamlessly "suture" them together in a way that it sounds like it was all one take. It hits different.
@@ludwigvonn9889well if you look at it that way then yes, it can be super annoying and tedious to do. But I was talking more so in a smaller scale since I'm not a Billie Eilish-level singer and only recently did I start dabbling in some extremely basic mixing. So I was talking more in that sense, when you're working on something and you manage to nail it in a way that it sounds seamless and like 1 singular take, it's really satisfying (speaking from experience), that's all.
@@ludwigvonn9889 That's not what it's really about in context. That is a glimpse into how artists with true desire to make the best possible song for release work. It was a little vague regarding the 87 cuts. That did not mean she had to sing it 87 times, just that the recordings were cut/spliced that amount of times. It could have been 5 takes with 20 splices, or 10 with 10, or whatever way divide it up. She still goes live with about as close to a perfect rendition of her songs.
This is punching in on STEROIDDDZZZ… just for everyone wondering… most artists at least go line by line or some even the whole verse/chorus… it’s rare that words are this intricately done throughout.
i think that in some other video (maybe “the making of bad guy”? i’m not sure tho) she said that she is lowkey ocd when it comes to her recording the vocals in a way where she wants every second to sound “perfect” or artistically the way she precisely wanted. i think she did hundreds of that “duh” part until she got it exactly the way she wanted it to sound.
@@twiixie1654 that duh thing does makes sense. Sometimes a vocalist gets stuck at a word or a line and they have to do multiple takes in order to maks it perfect but it doesn't happen everytime. Like a few days back I was recording a female artist and we had to record and practice for like 2 hours just to get one word right where the rest of the song was recorded in 15 minutes
@@laravelisbullschitt3281fuck are you talking about?? It’s a totally normally thing for musicians to do. It’s how I recorded the drums for every song on my second album. Did the first album live, second album comped. Comping has nothing to do with having or not having talent. What a bullshit thing to say. Besides that, BE and her brother are clearly very talented. You can not like their music, but to say they lack talent is just stupid.
Idk if you’re joking but they’ve been comping for decades now, artists are often picky perfectionists, which is great because it shows their devotion to creating the best art possible
I'm learning music production on the computer and am inspired by Finneas and Billie. Lots of good ideas to think outside of the box. And not in someone else's box!
Thank god to know I’m not the only one with 87 takes on a verse. My singing is not always too consistent and so there’s so many takes. But now I know even at the highest levels, artists are doing almost a hundred punches to get that professional sound.
pro tools audio software, it's easy, you can fade each take into each other, you can edit out breaths and noises, you can add auto tune, compression, reverbs, etc.. simple stuff anyone can do
This is not a reason to be proud of the popularity of the top singers of our time, this is a reason to respect top singers before the era of digitalization.
Wrong. Multitrack recording was done on reel-to-reel tape long before digital recording. And before that, artists still recorded hundreds of takes and none of them were “perfect” - you only heard the version that they liked best. Billie could do the same thing and release her best single take (and it would still sound great to you) but this technology allows her to flex her creativity even MORE by weaving together a collage of all of her favorite segments & unique flourishes into one that best represents what she wants to express.
@Alyx Inwonderland the idea that autotune and pitch correction can turn a horrible take into an amazing take is a myth. It’s much easier to remove data surgically then it is to add data. If you sing like shit it’s not gonna be easy to make your sound better. Furthermore, they did the same thing with reels. Comping isn’t new, just evolved.
Was coming here to say this exact thing. Whatever happened to actual skill...I can do 100 takes and sound good, too...but all at once? Nope. Everyone praising her for no reason.
I love watching old clips of bands like The Hollies recording vocal tracks, they would stand side by side and harmonise live and record straight to tape. It's a skill that modern audio production has almost completely erased.
It’s all a creative choice, some artists like to do it in one take, some like to do many takes until they feel they’ve performed every line perfectly for the song, there’s no right answers and no best way to do it. Also I’m not familiar with that artist but if it’s a pop artist there’s a strong chance that one take has been subtly pitch corrected and edited. It’s pretty much the industry standard with vocals to ensure the cleanest possible finished product. In this case Billy Eilish is comping instead, as that’s how she likes to get the best possible sound. Music is about making things sound as good as they can to the artist’s ears, it’s not a sport or a competition. What works for Dio might not work for Billie’s ears and vice versa
Comping is cool and all for achieving a "perfect" version, but personally I prefer artists who let their imperfections shine through and add to their performance. Daryl Hall giving those magical single take performances, warts and all. Eddie Van Halen playing the wrong note and keeping it in the final version of the track. There is something special about being so talented that even your mistakes sound intentional
@My mother Gomunkul But you should really check out Billie Eilish if you've never heard of her because she is literally the only human being in the music industry that matters. I'm sure your Gomblybomblydoornob is great... BUT, you get on that Billie shit and you're hooked for life. The woman is beautiful, sharp as a nail, and unique to the teeth! Brilliant as a star should be and humble in her own elegance.
As I run out onto the lawn (in my tattered robe) with fist held high and yell “ I remember when Vocalist had to do it in one take with maybe a punch in the chorus!” 😂
Some ppl in the comments aren’t really familiar with recording music. This is literally what it looks like for every major artists (maybe not as many takes but same same) what they put out is what ppl remember. They want it to be perfect because it’s this ppl will be listening to often, not the live performances. So of course it’ll be made perfect
Right?? When I say I was SHOCKED to see this when I've been trying to do flawless one-takes of her songs and then I learn like every second word is a separate take? 🤯
@@aubrie_morgan It’s just hard when so many more talented singers can’t get a shot because of all of the production help other people are getting. She’s not the worst culprit - not even close. But most of the music on the top of Billboard is so heavily edited, smoothed out, and and pitch corrected that they’re selling people a lie. If you’re making millions as a singer, you should be able to sing at that level. It’s no wonder that shows like American Idol started being less popular… raw talent and skill became optional and that’s just sad.
You realize just about every artist and band does this in the studio right? And it’s not even new. Hell even the Beatles utilized multiple takes in their tracks
@@justinb864 False equivalency, though. The Beatles didn't have ghost writers while she does. Not only did the Beatles write their own songs they also played their own instruments. Billie Elfish has none of those qualities which is why a lot of modern music is trash. You're right about both subjects having to take 'multiple takes in their tracks' , though.
@@dailynews5683Billie writes her own music. All the instrumentation and editing in production is courtesy of her producer, her brother. If you really wanna be so anal about this than Billie and Finneas' being 2 people are able to do what took the Beatles 4 bandmates and a team of a dozen of producers. If this technology existed in the 60s in abbey road the Beatles would've used the hell out of it.
Some quick research basically says it’s just the pursuit of absolute perfection / a flawless vocal, that holds up with many repeat listens. Which makes sense.
The point is to make a flawless copy of the song so she can practice over and over to THAT recording of it, so she can copy the vocals live and make them as close to the perfect version as possible
Idk what you mean with my days and I think it’s great that technology has gotten this far so you can make it “perfect” but over 50 takes is far to much for me and it could be that musicians did not do it in one take and idk if you think the musicians in your days are better than the musicians now when you think that way then it’s not true some yeah but some now are better than some back then (I’m talking about talent)
Billie had to work so hard to be where she’s at. She started with absolutely nothing. All she had was wealthy parents with connects in the entertainment industry and a brother who wrote all her songs and made her music. Started from the bottom. Truly inspiring. To the people claiming her whole image is manufactured and she’s a plant are just dumb. She’d have ti have wealthy parents with contacts in the entertainment industry and a brother writing all her songs….oh wait
@Kirsten A yeah you absolutely could lol what a dumb statement. Connections HELP ALOT but it’s not needed 100 percent at all. But in music it will accelerate your career very fast.
And this is why her brother wins Grammy's as well. That takes a lot of talent.
Yeah! Most effort is definitely done from his brother. She is the picture and it's behind story is his brother.
It takes more talent to do it all in less then 87 takes! 😂
@@harmonybeats2024there's literally no way you can know who puts in "most" effort, that's really ludicrous and likely immeasurable even for them.
But thats just simple mastering, i should win an award too if that is all what it takes lol
@@DerHarzDude yeah lol 😂 said right. It's mainly the work of mastering. Compared to her I like Lana del Ray, atleast she kept her vocals, some quit raw.
Jeez getting those to sync perfectly seems like a task - wow
that’s actually the concept of “comping” that she mentioned!
Easier now than the days when tape had to be literally spliced together in order to comp a vocal or a guitar solo (or whatever).
In GarageBand/Logic, you can do several takes of one part in a row and they automatically line up with eachother - you just have to try to sing on beat :)
Actually the easiest part now that there are sound editing software back in the 80s it at all the be done analog.
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Yes as a fellow musician i can confirm this is how it works. You either get it perfect in one take (very rare) or record the hell out of it (99% of the time)
Well Ive been adjusting my friend’s vocal for almost a month now because it sounds “metallic” amd I absolutely do not understand what the problem is and it fucks me off at this point because she gets the vocal every time yet she is insecure about it ffs
@@UltraCodex66If you're adjusting vocals with pitch correction, Melodyne is pretty transparent. Record at a high sample rate (96k) and you'll have more information present so you don't get that metallic sound. Adjust the vocal within a range of 20 cents and you should be pretty good. Or else just record again until it's near there.
Best of luck.
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really? holy crap that makes me feel so much better fr, i thought i was just a horrible singer
@@UltraCodex66eq and compression learn mixing + mastering
This is why a live concert is amazing. Because every time is different, that's being human. ❤✌️
That's one aspect I like with punk rock music. I like when it's raw sometimes with no editing. I like the trash aspect of it.
Yes and also why live performances sound nothing like album you bought. I remember having this realization upon seeing live music at my first concert I attended. Also part of the reason why certain artists sound like crap live.
Except many big artists use live pitch correction in concert these days.
That is if they're not lip-syncing cause that's a thing too.
As long as they don't lip sync lol
This is why the actually production of a song is so impressive because they have to make all of those different sections of vocals to blend together and sound like they all have the same level of volume and stuff like that.
That's what a compressor is for :)
that's not the impressive part, that's the easiest aspect of producing music. getting them the same volume isn't hard, that's all to do with mic placement and the singer singing at the same volume for each take, pretty easy. the difficult part is her ability to sing very , very quietly and have each note be more or less pitch perfect, i can't hear any vocal tuning on this track, now that's impressive.
@@TheNeverists666 I'd say there might be a bit of pitch correction in the breakdown bit. The "you call me again" section. But these vocals are very clean and well sung. I love that Finneas and Billie prefer taking a lot of takes instead of taking a few and tuning it like most artists nowadays.
@@sam_k i was only talking about this section, she definitely uses some pitch correction here and there but that's ok, she can reproduce it live very easily, 87 takes is a lot but she is singing extremely quietly so it is super difficult to nail the pitch at that volume. still i imagine there's a bit of perfectionism there, i believe she probably could have done a solid comp from four/five takes given her ability, i agree man it's better to do many as necessary to get the right one than to pitch correct , generally speaking. unless the take has the right emotion but just wavers a little in pitch or vibrato.
@@TheNeverists666 100% agree with everything you just said
I assumed some artists do this, but I’ve never seen it until now. I started to notice when some artists leave in their breaths and some don’t and you’re singing along & it’s like “do you ever breathe??”
Lmao my struggle every time I sing with Ke$ha
@@Garlicbredqueen 🤣
Not all songs are done like this. Heavily perfected pop music is thought. Some artists Def can pull off good enough takes and don’t need comping. 40 years ago you had to do it in one take and if someone messed up you had to start over again lol.
Correct again. That’s why I mix it as close to I can get to what I would perform live. And! After the song is done. It’s basically a new song again. So I have to practice it the way the song plays back. Again for live performances
This kind of editing happens ALLLLL the time and not just in music. Film and tv audio as well.
I'm so happy Billie openly admits she is comping... When I first started recording vocals, I felt super insecure about the fact that I was doing it too, and it's a relief that even such talented singers as Billie are doing it too!
Comping is very useful and extremely common. Ariana Grande even comps breaths, don't feel insecure just look for the best results based on what you like and you will get there no matter what it takes.
It would be impossible for her to layer this many overtones if she wasn’t don’t be ashamed just depends on how you want your sound.
What are comps
What does comping mean
@@ShaniyahDarden it's literally in the video
I am a grandmother completely obsessed with her… such a good artist! A nice girl too!!
Yes I am a mother and recently took my daughter to her concert I’m obsessed with her too now 😮❤❤❤
Why does being a grandma matter lol?
@@afriendlyneighbor9624me too! I think I may have had more fun! The kids might be a little pissed off at me. They call me a fake fan 😢😂. I can enjoy what my money pays for!!!😅
Both Finneas and Billie are borderline musical geniuses. Finneas understands how to use sounds to completely transform a musical experience probably more than any other producer in the world. Billie, on the other hand, is essentially like 5 different types of singers in one tiny human.
I’ve been a musician for over 30 years and as such, I tend to be able to recognize the mark of an extraordinary musical talent almost immediately when I encounter it. And over the years, I’ve recognized one feature that all of these artists tend to have, which is the ability to make something extraordinarily difficult and complex seem simple and easy. Billie has this quality in spades. It’s amazing.
THIS!!
Hate to break it to you my guy but if youve been doin it for 30 years and you think billie eilish is a genious, youre probably pretty bad yourself.
@@akirathedog777not everyone wants to live a life fully in music.or in this way. That's ridiculous to say.
@@akirathedog777and what exactly are you doing buddy? She is making millions with her talent and you just sit there and judge her and sb who expressed his honest opinion as a musican . Just shut up with all the negativity
@@fionabubeqi9728 wow you really got mad huh?
Maybe you shouldnt place such importance on someone who doesnt even know you exist.
I love how she reveals the process. I think it gives more credit to her hard working colleagues who help her and really show that celebrity vocalists names are an entire brand and group of people as opposed to a one man show. Even if one man shows are impressive, it’s nice to think a piece was made and performed by a coalition of effort rather than just always worshipping genius
@@lindajerez2193 nope. the "creation" part of all of their songs come from billie and finneas. only other production help they have are mixing and mastering which basically prepares the createf song for publishing.
they have 1 person for mixing HTE, and 3 people who mastered the songs (2 of them mastered one song each while the other guy mastered the rest)
The beatles did the same thing. Michael Jackson did tje same thing. Whitney houston. Mariah carey.
Everyone does this.
I agree . Props to Billie. I’m a big fan of her music and production but I never knew this or knew people did this. It really makes me appreciate their transparency, but also makes me question other artists and our worship of their “talent” and it further confirms my initial suspicions that a lot of artists electronically modify music, and the art is truly in the editing and production often.
@jessie6600there is no way that no one else has ever or is currently contributing in any way to these careers. Big or small.
Not true
God she and her brother are so talented. I’ve never not been in complete awe of how masterful they are at their craft. They were born to do this. We’re lucky to be alive at a time where we can listen to their music.
They don’t do anything any other musicians or producers can’t do.
That doesn’t make it any less impressive lmao like what was the point of this comment? Just to be a hater?
Amazing how ignorant people are impressed of this because “bad guy” has over a billion views. This is no talent. As a producer and musician this is 100% what you dont do lol. But oh well. Tiktok mentality i guess.
@@TS-xn1mc it does but , i guess you clap when you see a tiktok of someone dancing. So that shows.
@@TS-xn1mc being unique is impressive, like when q tip makes beats with a record and needle drops, being too bad at singing to get a good take isn’t impressive.
This is why the value of quality live performances has increased in value over time. We have become used to artists creating in the studio using multi takes but a live performance is so much more ❤🎉
Yeah if they can't sing live I'm not interested. Celine Dion walked in sung My heart will go on in one take and left. 87 takes? Nah...
@@irishcountrygirl78Celine dion comps her vocals too homie
Live performance can be autotuned a lot. You can't tell the difference is it real sound or record
Many if not most high level touring acts are using all kinds of magic live to produce the same effects. Autotune, pre recorded tracks, drum samples, etc
The musicians were always comping over the years but i get what ur saying
“Thank you for caring” felt that to my soul
this just shows how impressive Finneas is as a producer
Not really. This is insanely common. If you do any type of layering you will be doing take after take to get the sound and effect right. Partly to maintain any hope of keeping the takes harmonious, but also just to see if something outside of your original idea fits. He is very talented, but kind of overblown because of who his sister is.
@@NealBonesI think that’s likely too. You’d have to know how to do this for his job. But I also believe it does show he is a good one, and that many producers would probably rather work with someone they’d have to do less work for. And bc it’s his sister and they knew she was kinda a plant/would blow up, he does it for the money. And he loves her im sure
This is the least impressive thing he can do.
This is standard procedure
I bet he can piss his pants, that's gotta be less impressive
The way she said "pay attention" I immediately was like "yes ma'am" 😂
Yes so true
"I'm sat"
Nobhead
I love it Billie eilish got a interview with David Letterman on her her music which I think is great like her brother too
Yea cause you simp
She's one of the most talented live singers in the world right now, them showing their process comping vocals doesn't detract from that, it is just them being open and honest about how things work these days
as another musician this makes me feel better about also recording 1000 takes lolll
It all depends on if you make music for fame or just cause it's what you do. There is nothing wrong with recording something a thousand times, but using every single take is imo shitty and should be frowned upon like influencers photoshopping photos of themselves before putting them on instagram.
Lmao… Ozzy does word for word… Like records one word at a time …
@@selfpromotion4976 Ozzy Osbourne is also severely damaged by drug abuse. and at this point 74 years old. How old is Billie Eilish again? about 17 or something? idk would you expect better or worse from her?
Not saying she doesn't do drugs because that is pretty much a gimme in the industry, but she has not had nearly enough time to get to his level.
Also yeah thats just a rumor, now what he actually does is he records full takes, then they add stuff on top to get the Ozzy osbourne sound, the slightly hollow reverby sounding voice comes from two takes on top of each other.
Hey, the more you know.
@@Rasmustheforest yeah… it was on the show where they said that when he was recording something for someone. The clip was in his later years but he did say that was how he did it. 🤷♂️ personally I have recorded about 4 albums and each was different studios different processes. The fineas and Billie combo is great. The bedroom recording sound is always very intimate and comforting, easily enjoyable.
@@Rasmustheforest you don't make no sense nobody gives a fuck if it's done in 1 take or a 1OOO, only the end result matters
This is why alot of artists can't sing they song live correctly. It's too hard to breathe that quick between the verse chorus verse sometimes. Schoolboy q is a famous example
It's true that sometimes because of this artists cant perform their songs live but she actually can she's very consistent tbh, she's just very specific about her takes (how many oscillations there are in her vibrato for example) but yea I agree with you
Agreed. I only like singers that can belt out their songs without a microphone and do it justice. Otherwise I’m just listening to a “singer” featuring a computer that had to fix everything. Everyone sounds like robots now.
Well not for Billie 😗
@@sjoo8 I kinda have a different perspective? I just listen to good songs I personally don’t care how skilled an artist is at replicating a studio recording live. I see the studio recordings as pieces of art, and I think that artists are allowed to use tools to polish them until they sound perfect. As long as it sounds good, anything goes. Singing amazing live is a bonus, and I feel like most people can improve in that with training - making good music is different
@@sjoo8 there can be a ton of audio corrections without it sounding like a robot you know that right?
And yet, when she sings it live she sound gorgeous and a lot like the recording. Billie never fails to amaze me
edit: these replies are interesting.
us vocalists are perfectionists lmao
@@intheskatepark you surely don’t know many vocalists then lmao
@@ishhaatt569 i only know me to be fair
@@ishhaatt569 i feel like vocalist and singers are two very different things. my definition of a vocalist is having a good concept of technique, understanding your vocal ability and utilizing it to your fullest potential at that stage in your life wether you’re self-taught or classically trained by someone. some singers are natural vocalist like janis joplin or tina turner, most are trained in choirs like mariah carey & whitney houston, but any singer can work towards becoming a vocalist really.
Her voice is amazing and her music is innovative and beautiful, yet I think her music is not that challenging to be hard to perform live
A perfect, artfully and deliberately curated vocal comp containing 87 different takes and an imperfect, characterful single take are both SO beautiful and satisfying to listen to (and create!). Both approaches can produce magical results.
You'd never pick it, but I'm not surprised this is how Billie's vocals are done because when you listen to her recordings, especially the ballad type ones, it feels like every note is deliberated over. The delivery of every detail is considered. Why not do it like that if you feel compelled to? It's a fun thing to focus in on!
The hardest part of making a song is actually deciding how you want to make it. Like being given one of those long balloons for balloon animals. you can make so many different animals in so many different ways but in the end you have to just choose one. I struggle so much deciding which animal to make and how to make it . I'm so jealous of what phineas and billie do together, It's amazing.
Pro tip: Just make something. Anything, even if it's shit. Then do it again, and again, and again, until you get better and understand what sounds, arrangements, and instruments you like and don't like.
@@diondredunigan5282 Yep, gotta dig through the dirt to get to the gold. I do that when I’m acting.
Terrible analogy
@@Finaggle haha my thoughts exactly. fuckin balloon animals
This is actually the main reason I'm so amazed by the old musicians, specially Queen. Really. The amount of work they had to go through just to give us their masterpieces...is just incredible.
im sure billie worked hard on this song, but she will never be able to preform like artists who didnt rely on scapes like vocal comps, and the tech the engineer uses to help billy no sound like a pot head
I mean they still just did the exact same thing, it was just a hell of a lot more expensive so only the big acts could do it, now every kid with a laptop can
They could still cut. They just had to cut physical tape, but I hear ya. I will say I think it speaks to her consistency that she has so many edits but the final vocal sounds so authentic, and sounds like 1 or 2 takes.
@@travisfaulkner4659Have you heard her live performances?
This is actually beautiful
Prince would publish songs with his first take. He kept all the imperfections to keep the song real and passionate.
Bullshit.
Prince also makes shit music so your point?
well prince was one in a zillion lol. there’s no one like him and never will be. but we can still appreciate all the multiple takes to perfect a song as well
@@ripdoggiehave you lost your damn mind. 😂
That's how most artists were back then.
Ya she'll sing it 100 times and takes the little parts she likes the most out of every take and make it its own perfect super take.
correct
Derp
She's passionated and sooo proud to share this with him, they are cute
Not lot of people get this experience thank you that ! I felt the same ✨♥️
Billie turned into a teacher the way she said pay attention 😂😂😂
Lmao. She's so funny sometimes
Haha yeah what a bitch eh, she's so unlikable and everything she says sounds so ignorant
This is what happens with a professionally recorded music. That’s why so many singers sound so perfectly clear and crisp and their performances lack any blemishes. People often will say that the perfectly in-tune and inhumanly perfect voice people have in studio recorded songs is because of autotune, but usually it’s just because they can pick from hundreds of takes and string together all of the parts that are perfect. It is the singer’s real voice, it’s just all of their best bits put together, without their imperfections.
(I’m not saying that i think there should be no imperfections in recorded music, just that that’s what’s considered desirable generally, and that’s the motivation behind doing it this way)
I like the way she talks about music and tics it's make me feel better with me.
😀🤧💞
The pursuit of perfection in studio versions of songs is what makes all live performances pale in comparison. I’d love to see her sing this in one take like Whitney, Mariah and Celine Dione. There’s beauty in imperfection, you don’t always have to be on perfect to sound great as evident by Sia’s voice cracks which sound heavenly
When someone really loves their music, it shows
This series that letterman does is so genuine and refreshing.
I was scrolling to find out if it was Letterman - thanks!
They all look so happy to be talking about this stuff with each other
comping a vocal is sooo tedious at times, but the results speak for themselves. Beautiful vocals.
It’s honestly so nice to know how many cuts there are 😭 as a self-producing songwriter I always wonder why I can never get a whole line recorded exactly how I want it
She is so beautiful
So when people are always obsessing over singing a song just like an artist there’s a reason why it doesn’t sound exactly like that live
Actually this isn't the reason.
As someone with a music studio . . .
She literally wants to make it seem like she works harder and maybe she does . . .
but she is just trying to go the elitist and pretentious route of going " Oh I didn't use autotune "
and it's like . . . No, you didn't. You took a 100 x more difficult array of steps for the same end result.
Because autotune is just pitch correction. The robotics and effects that people chum up to autotune aren't autotune.
Fact is autotune is used on every professional album by a major label. It's just an ending step. Even people with 100 x more vocal talent use it. It's just a matter of how much you use it whether you've got talent or not.
The reason why people don't sound the same live is MOSTLY due to volume equalizing.
When you want certain tones or notes you'll have to project which means belting which means you're going to be louder and the volume between that and chest voice . . . especially if you're extending your vocal chords for higher notes is going to mean singing a lot louder. So some people don't like live music because they're used to studio versions tainting what is actually the human voice.
In other words a lot of the music you listen to isn't sung how it sounds. Those notes they're reaching will be louder live and so the sound volume is a lot more up and down and not equalized to be less " Oh wow " when the shift into vocal placement happens.
@@iTeacupPanda it’s funny but I actually like live music better because of all of that, I usually find studio versions to be kinda flat to me
@@ceciliacabrini I have a preference for it myself, hence why while I have nothing against Billie I'm not really a fan.
But you bet your ass I'm going to see Florence + the Machine this tour! Ugh no one compares to that woman for me. I'm so happy.
@@iTeacupPanda great conspiracy… literally everyone uses comping literally EVERYONE. It’s a natural and intrinsic part of producing music, heck even people who record covers from their bedroom comp. It’s not that complicated literally any basic software has it
@@userjoao I know what comping is, you dense bitch. My point is NO ONE, including you does it in 2-4 secodn intervals on repeat. Let's say you sing a fucking 3 minute song. Within a 30 second section you shouldn't have 15 cuts in one line. The only way you should is if you're doing vocal layering. Which isn't the case because they're not staggered.
Tell me would you have more than 4 sections you had to break together in a 15 second section? Or would you just record it all in one go for that 15 second interval? Maybe pop in a second one at a 3 second section or something. Done?
We need to appreciate producers like the performers
Literally Finneas is 90 percent of what makes Billie Eilish Billie Eilish, but people don’t wanna talk about that for whatever reason. Cause that would take away from her I guess. But it’s true. She’s just a voice.
Loved this interview
comping to this level is really difficult, purely because you have to hide all the cuts, and the tone of your voice has to perfectly match the other takes. This is crazy impressive. They've talked about why this is necessary for their production before. They have a rule that they never use pitch correction (autotune, Melodyne, etc). This means that they just have to do a shit ton of takes until they have a perfect comped recording,. crazy stuff
For real, really proud of her, and actually their haters be wrong, i always saw comments like "depressed girl with microphone can't do music" but bro... This thing might be the biggest slap they rechieved from her
Yes it is super difficult to match the tone of the other takes
Its only cuz she sucks and cant do it in 1 take.
@@XpapricaX brilliant take, wow.
@@liandyogi I’ve tried comping multiple takes before, and just give up and keep recording until I get one take that’s really good. It is very difficult, hard agree. But it also removes some of the imperfect humanity for some artists, to make it sound so perfect. Imperfection is what makes it interesting to listen to. Billie Eilish is GREAT at putting soul in every take, that’s why I was so surprised to see this video. I was 100% sure she wasn’t comping.
I love watching artists break down their music and “comps” i find it v interesting
The beatles making a hole album in one take is crazy
I'm pretty sure Courtney Love was the one making the hole albums. Or Billy Corgan, if you believe the rumors.
The way you can’t even tell they’re spliced together is amazing editing and fluidity
So beatiful & breath takeing.
Just finished recording my first album in Nashville, and it was absolutely amazing to me how they can punch in different places and blend the different takes together. It’s truly a skill to use all that technology
What’s it called?
Commenting so I can see a reply to that person’s question
She is just a whole vibe love her❤
She made me c0m
More like 87 vibes put together if I understand the video 😅
And she backs up her raw talent in live performance, consistently. Iykyk ❤
Love Billie EILISH ; Finneas and of course David Letterman all in one room wow!
that’s also how they recorded ocean eyes with NO autotune. they’re very talented
Seems awfully stupid tbh. If you're going to do 100 cuts why NOT use auto-tune?
Autotune is used on EVERY professionally published album EVER since its creation. It's pretty much mandatory.
Seems like a form of elitism to go " Oh well I didn't use autotune " , no you didn't.
You just chopped your best 100 takes together and Frankenstein'd it for the same end result.
Don't get me wrong she's talented but this is dumb. There are people a hundred times more vocally talented who use autotune.
It's a matter of how much auto-tune you need of course but she doesn't need a ton either.
Also I think people don't know what autotune really is and just chop everything up as autotune. It's just pitch correction really. You know it's impossible to have perfect pitch all the time. Perfect pitch is mathematical and a frequency. You actually can't decipher if it's perfect or not for a fair bit with the human ear.
Most people are thinking of excessive reverb or vocoder or something else when they say autotune.
@@iTeacupPanda She definitely has used auto tune while producing, you can hear it in music when artists do. I think the public has a negative view on it even though every artist you have listened to since the late 90s has used it.
@@samanthaohx Yeah but you don't need nearly 100 takes for that. You really don't.
I understand timbre and vocal tone, inflection. It's easier to just relisten to it and try to sing every lyric section with a couple takes and be like " Cool " and move onto the next.
You'll actually take longer doing 100 4 second clips and trying to blend them together.
Than if you broke the song into 5-6 sectors and say . . . rerecorded each one 25 times. ( Which would be a bigger number but obviously you delete the ones you don't like and they're longer sections so they get done faster. and you only have to blend like 5-6 sections of music compared to 87 or w.e. )
@@iTeacupPanda Okay, that's nice. But she and her team are the professionals -- it clearly works.
@@CenoriaWoah I feel like you're going to take the side that puts you on Billie's side no matter what tbh.
No shit it works, but it's the dumbest and least effective way of doing things. I don't even think she works that way usually. This was for some pretentious art-kid " I work so hard, my brain work different. I'm so unique. " clout.
Kimbra for example's work is a hundred times more complex sonically and she doesn't put herself through this and her work is entirely nuance, inflection and timber based. lmao
Saying " It works " is like saying . . .well you could dig with a shovel or a teaspoon. Yeah the teaspoon will get you out eventually but you're gonna take a lot longer and it's gonna put you through a lot more work for the SAME result.
What she is doing isn't improving her work and like I said I don't think she actually does it. It wouldn't surprise me. I mean people lie for pretentious reasons all the time. Look at Aurora.
They're meticulous. I respect the level of work they put in to perfecting their music.
Musical genius..her tone blows my mind!
I LOVE BILLIE ❤SHE'S MY EVERYTHING. 87 tales are a lot of takes. Wow
Trust me, chopping these all together is one heck of a task. I've spent weeks on end
as a full time producer, not really. he’s not chopping anything he’s looking at a drop down of the 87 tracks and highlighting which part of which take he wants to use. the only part of this that takes a long time is listening to 87 takes multiple times.
I have to comp like 200 vocal takes for one song lol :(
I’m an audio engineer and this just makes me wanna cryyyy she’s so well versed and talented
To be honest, i started audio engineering for like 1 year now, but i gotta admit, no one could know if she wouldn't show it
Talent? You call 50 takes talent?
@@jellojoe00 you try it then... like what how does she not have some kind of base talent.
@@m0nst3r.x0x0 she does but her biggest talent is in populist songwriting. The production is pretty standard stuff and she’s obviously not a musical genius. Great singer though and great at writing for the current mainstream. Like Charlie Puth but without the perfect pitch and with a little more artistic vision and integrity.
Literally every vocalist on the planet earth knows about vocal comping
I was surprised to see this given how flawless her live singing is.
Dio: one take = masterpiece.
to be fair it's not really fair to compare others to literal god 😂
Still, Nothing compares to a nice quality organic live vocal singing that is done live in one go! 😊
I'd love to hear her sing dust til dawn
I love how real this is all the way around. N respect to her brother. I love her work.
This is actually a very common technic when recording, since you want every single note to be the best they can be
The people who are hating obviously never made music before. You think an artist is gonna sing a full take in one breathe? Use your head.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I prefer a band getting in the room together and playing live in one take…to tape. It’s glorious!
Billie and Fin can, but they're still trying to up their artistic game.
They are magical af ✨️
I wish she cover jazz songs she has jazz vocals 😍
😂
Only a small group of people know how satisfying it is to cut separate audio files, especially of vocals, and seamlessly "suture" them together in a way that it sounds like it was all one take. It hits different.
its shi*.. If a singer needs 100 takes for 1 line of text, shes being sacked 99% of the time..
@@ludwigvonn9889well if you look at it that way then yes, it can be super annoying and tedious to do. But I was talking more so in a smaller scale since I'm not a Billie Eilish-level singer and only recently did I start dabbling in some extremely basic mixing. So I was talking more in that sense, when you're working on something and you manage to nail it in a way that it sounds seamless and like 1 singular take, it's really satisfying (speaking from experience), that's all.
@@ludwigvonn9889 That's not what it's really about in context. That is a glimpse into how artists with true desire to make the best possible song for release work.
It was a little vague regarding the 87 cuts. That did not mean she had to sing it 87 times, just that the recordings were cut/spliced that amount of times. It could have been 5 takes with 20 splices, or 10 with 10, or whatever way divide it up.
She still goes live with about as close to a perfect rendition of her songs.
@@OpalChipp Keep at it, there are very few artists that just use a one-take for a release. It doesn't mean anything negative
FABRICATION of REAL TALENT .
The trick is being able to learn it and sing it perfect once you find the right mix.
This is punching in on STEROIDDDZZZ… just for everyone wondering… most artists at least go line by line or some even the whole verse/chorus… it’s rare that words are this intricately done throughout.
true dat, this is excessive, most artists can do their songs in a few takes
That’s what happens when uou have zero talent
i think that in some other video (maybe “the making of bad guy”? i’m not sure tho) she said that she is lowkey ocd when it comes to her recording the vocals in a way where she wants every second to sound “perfect” or artistically the way she precisely wanted. i think she did hundreds of that “duh” part until she got it exactly the way she wanted it to sound.
@@twiixie1654 that duh thing does makes sense. Sometimes a vocalist gets stuck at a word or a line and they have to do multiple takes in order to maks it perfect but it doesn't happen everytime.
Like a few days back I was recording a female artist and we had to record and practice for like 2 hours just to get one word right where the rest of the song was recorded in 15 minutes
@@laravelisbullschitt3281fuck are you talking about?? It’s a totally normally thing for musicians to do. It’s how I recorded the drums for every song on my second album. Did the first album live, second album comped. Comping has nothing to do with having or not having talent. What a bullshit thing to say. Besides that, BE and her brother are clearly very talented. You can not like their music, but to say they lack talent is just stupid.
This is the struggle of being an artist and I’m so glad she is putting it out there! Making music is a journey!
Idk if you’re joking but they’ve been comping for decades now, artists are often picky perfectionists, which is great because it shows their devotion to creating the best art possible
@@eatmeneat5035 it also kills the feel
I'm learning music production on the computer and am inspired by Finneas and Billie. Lots of good ideas to think outside of the box. And not in someone else's box!
And still and will always be one of my favorite artists
Shoutout to the motion designer that matched the text to the words so well ❤️
Thank god to know I’m not the only one with 87 takes on a verse. My singing is not always too consistent and so there’s so many takes. But now I know even at the highest levels, artists are doing almost a hundred punches to get that professional sound.
How do they even sync those takes into one and make them sound so flawless and smooth?? I am astonished… 😵💫
pro tools audio software, it's easy, you can fade each take into each other, you can edit out breaths and noises, you can add auto tune, compression, reverbs, etc.. simple stuff anyone can do
Why is this old man so adorable 😢
That's why it's so perfect!
This is not a reason to be proud of the popularity of the top singers of our time, this is a reason to respect top singers before the era of digitalization.
Hey you pretentious weirdo, people used to record and punch in with tape before digitalization too
Why can’t it be both
Billie is great live though... this is for studio perfection, that pop crispiness
Wrong. Multitrack recording was done on reel-to-reel tape long before digital recording. And before that, artists still recorded hundreds of takes and none of them were “perfect” - you only heard the version that they liked best.
Billie could do the same thing and release her best single take (and it would still sound great to you) but this technology allows her to flex her creativity even MORE by weaving together a collage of all of her favorite segments & unique flourishes into one that best represents what she wants to express.
@Alyx Inwonderland the idea that autotune and pitch correction can turn a horrible take into an amazing take is a myth.
It’s much easier to remove data surgically then it is to add data. If you sing like shit it’s not gonna be easy to make your sound better. Furthermore, they did the same thing with reels. Comping isn’t new, just evolved.
Artists who recorded 35+ years ago are rolling their eyes so hard they're looking at yesterday.
Her voice is beautiful ❤️
This is what made people like Freddie Mercury so great. It was all Freddie all the time. Queen's live performances were impeccable.
One perfect take in my days was the only thing needed. You sing or you don’t
Was coming here to say this exact thing. Whatever happened to actual skill...I can do 100 takes and sound good, too...but all at once? Nope. Everyone praising her for no reason.
@@Razalkarpshe could easily sing this in one take. Her voice is amazing.
@@Wideawake4 This is not about her voice. And if she could do it she would.
I love watching old clips of bands like The Hollies recording vocal tracks, they would stand side by side and harmonise live and record straight to tape. It's a skill that modern audio production has almost completely erased.
@@Sonnell wasn’t talking to you…
Dio comes in a recording session and nails it in one take.
It’s all a creative choice, some artists like to do it in one take, some like to do many takes until they feel they’ve performed every line perfectly for the song, there’s no right answers and no best way to do it. Also I’m not familiar with that artist but if it’s a pop artist there’s a strong chance that one take has been subtly pitch corrected and edited. It’s pretty much the industry standard with vocals to ensure the cleanest possible finished product. In this case Billy Eilish is comping instead, as that’s how she likes to get the best possible sound. Music is about making things sound as good as they can to the artist’s ears, it’s not a sport or a competition. What works for Dio might not work for Billie’s ears and vice versa
Hahaha! Yes!
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Raw power ✊
WRYYYYY
So basically give yourself some grace as live singers out there , it’s hard to replicate perfection like this
That seems so much more work than just singing it all good in one take lol
yes!
Work smarter not harder. Imo this is completely unnecessary. Just start off by where you last paused or took a breath in. 🤷🏻♀️
Comping is cool and all for achieving a "perfect" version, but personally I prefer artists who let their imperfections shine through and add to their performance. Daryl Hall giving those magical single take performances, warts and all. Eddie Van Halen playing the wrong note and keeping it in the final version of the track. There is something special about being so talented that even your mistakes sound intentional
Aww! This is such a cute audio.
I’m literally crying 😭💖
Billie will always have my undivided attention 😍😍😍
@My mother Gomunkul yeah, never heard of that.
@My mother Gomunkul But you should really check out Billie Eilish if you've never heard of her because she is literally the only human being in the music industry that matters. I'm sure your Gomblybomblydoornob is great... BUT, you get on that Billie shit and you're hooked for life. The woman is beautiful, sharp as a nail, and unique to the teeth! Brilliant as a star should be and humble in her own elegance.
As I run out onto the lawn (in my tattered robe) with fist held high and yell “ I remember when Vocalist had to do it in one take with maybe a punch in the chorus!” 😂
Some ppl in the comments aren’t really familiar with recording music. This is literally what it looks like for every major artists (maybe not as many takes but same same) what they put out is what ppl remember. They want it to be perfect because it’s this ppl will be listening to often, not the live performances. So of course it’ll be made perfect
To be fair, this is pretty excessive. Splicing up vocals usually happens per verse/chorus, not phrase.
Exactly !!!!! Excessive afffffff
Especially considering she isn’t singing something that’s particularly difficult for a skilled singer. That’s just nuts!
Right?? When I say I was SHOCKED to see this when I've been trying to do flawless one-takes of her songs and then I learn like every second word is a separate take? 🤯
Who cares. It sounds good.
@@aubrie_morgan It’s just hard when so many more talented singers can’t get a shot because of all of the production help other people are getting. She’s not the worst culprit - not even close. But most of the music on the top of Billboard is so heavily edited, smoothed out, and and pitch corrected that they’re selling people a lie. If you’re making millions as a singer, you should be able to sing at that level. It’s no wonder that shows like American Idol started being less popular… raw talent and skill became optional and that’s just sad.
that’s what makes this song so cool
Proof Billie owes her career to her editor
This person is so overrated it makes my skin crawl.
I think it’s her brother lol
You realize just about every artist and band does this in the studio right? And it’s not even new. Hell even the Beatles utilized multiple takes in their tracks
@@justinb864 False equivalency, though. The Beatles didn't have ghost writers while she does. Not only did the Beatles write their own songs they also played their own instruments. Billie Elfish has none of those qualities which is why a lot of modern music is trash. You're right about both subjects having to take 'multiple takes in their tracks' , though.
@@dailynews5683Billie writes her own music. All the instrumentation and editing in production is courtesy of her producer, her brother. If you really wanna be so anal about this than Billie and Finneas' being 2 people are able to do what took the Beatles 4 bandmates and a team of a dozen of producers. If this technology existed in the 60s in abbey road the Beatles would've used the hell out of it.
I actually learnt this when I met my boyfriend who makes music, I always wondered if they had to go back in and redo the whole song if they messed up😂
I don't understand why they need to do this when she sounds so good live
Yeah I’m like why 87
Right? It does seem a bit excessive (87?!) given how strong her natural / live voice is
Some quick research basically says it’s just the pursuit of absolute perfection / a flawless vocal, that holds up with many repeat listens. Which makes sense.
The point is to make a flawless copy of the song so she can practice over and over to THAT recording of it, so she can copy the vocals live and make them as close to the perfect version as possible
She's probably lip syncing live then?
Wow, I'd love to see more about this
In my day, the musicians recorded songs with one take.. no compression.. no auto-tune.. no filters.. just vocal cords
Pretty cool how far we've come to having different styles
Idk what you mean with my days and I think it’s great that technology has gotten this far so you can make it “perfect” but over 50 takes is far to much for me and it could be that musicians did not do it in one take and idk if you think the musicians in your days are better than the musicians now when you think that way then it’s not true some yeah but some now are better than some back then (I’m talking about talent)
What is this from? I’d love to watch it.
My Next Guest Needs No Introduction with David Letterman! S4 out now.
On Netflix.
Billie had to work so hard to be where she’s at. She started with absolutely nothing. All she had was wealthy parents with connects in the entertainment industry and a brother who wrote all her songs and made her music. Started from the bottom. Truly inspiring. To the people claiming her whole image is manufactured and she’s a plant are just dumb. She’d have ti have wealthy parents with contacts in the entertainment industry and a brother writing all her songs….oh wait
@Kirsten A riiiiight lmao, being a working actor in LA doesn’t make you any money! Makes sense!
@Kirsten A in music, connections are infinitely more valuable than money anyways.
@Kirsten A yeah you absolutely could lol what a dumb statement. Connections HELP ALOT but it’s not needed 100 percent at all. But in music it will accelerate your career very fast.
He sure can sing!