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Savage Axis 2XP VS Remington 783: which one is the best budget?
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2022
- Remington 783 the Budget Workhorse
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OR the Savage Axis 2
two top competitors for the best budget hunting rifles
In this video we compare the Remington 783 in all its facets to the Savage Axis 2XP
both of these rifles dominate the hunting industry because they are at a price point that everyone can afford and they work.
Is the 783 the budget hunting rifle you should buy or is it a hard pass? well one thing might push you in one direction or another right away... caliber selection, the Remington 783 currenlty (according to their website doesn't come in 6.5 Creedmoor and no .223) the rem 783 comes in 243win/.308 win/270win/30-06springfeild/300 win mag
and the savage comes in: 6.5cm/223/243/25-06/270/30-06/308/350 Legend/ 7mm-08Rem
in this video we were using the following:
-Warne Mountain tech scope rings
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Mambamag! yes now you can finally have a 10 round magazine for your rifle!
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info from the website:
AXIS II XP
The redesigned AXIS II XP offers hunters even better out-of-the-box performance at the same affordable price. In addition to improved ergonomics, the package rifle is loaded with features that deliver tack-driving accuracy on every shot, including the user-adjustable AccuTrigger, thread-in headspacing, and a factory-mounted, bore-sighted Bushnell Banner 3-9x40mm scope. The button-rifled barrel is well balanced with the tough composite stock.
FEATURES
Rugged synthetic stock
User-adjustable AccuTrigger
Improved ergonomics
Button-rifled barrel
Bushnell Banner 3-9x40mm scope
Detachable box magazine
Thread-in barrel headspacing
Specs:
SKU Number 57093
MSRP $529.00
Action Bolt
Barrel Color Black
Barrel Finish Matte
Barrel Length (in)/(cm) 22 / 55.880
Barrel Material Carbon Steel
Caliber 6.5 CREEDMOOR
Magazine Quantity 1
Magazine Capacity 4
Hand Right
Length of Pull (in)/(cm) 13.75 / 34.925
Magazine Detachable Box Magazine
Overall Length (in)/(cm) 42.5 / 107.950
Rate of Twist (in) 1 in 8
Receiver Color Black
Receiver Finish Matte
Receiver Material Carbon Steel
Type Centerfire
Stock Color Black
Stock Finish Matte
Stock Type Sporter
Weight (lb)/(kg) 7.38 / 3.35
info from Remington's website:
IT'S NOT DRESSED TO IMPRESS, IT'S DRESSED FOR WORK.
Custom-grade accuracy is now within reach of virtually every hunter. Building upon expertise that's dominated bolt-action technology for more than 50 years, our engineering team started from a clean drawing board and combined their most advanced, accuracy-enhancing features to create an all-new platform.
The black synthetic stock is built around a dual pillar bedded platform that free floats the barrel, and contains a high nylon fiber content, which promotes superior strength and rigidity for shot to shot consistency. Also helping deliver those inherently tight groups is a precision button-rifled barrel. For shot control, it's equipped with the crisp new CrossFire™ trigger system that's user adjustable to suit your preferences.
The 783 features a steel detachable magazine with a steel latch. Standard calibers have a four round capacity and magnum calibers hold three rounds. Like with all Remington bolt actions, expect a lifetime of rock-solid reliability. From the next generation in a legendary bloodline.
Specs:
CALIBER 308 Win
SKU R85837
MAG. CAPACITY 4
OVERALL LENGTH 41 5/8"
AVG. WT. (LBS.) 7 1/2
BARREL LENGTH 22"
BARREL MATERIAL Carbon Steel
BARREL FINISH Matte Blue
STOCK MATERIAL Synthetic
STOCK FINISH Matte Black
TWIST RATE 10
LENGTH OF PULL 13 3/8"
DROP (COMB) 1 5/8"
DROP (HEEL) 1"
for the full individual reviews:
savage Axis 2 review:
• Remington 783 Review: ...
Remington 783 review
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I have both and that 783 even out shoots my 700. Ridiculously consistent groups
Had a Remi 783 a good while ago, after I transformed into a dependable rifle (less than 1K invested) and used mostly for shooting practice due to a shoulder accident it became one of my favorites of the 308s I owned. When I fist got it I saw a lot of potential so I decided to invest on it. One of the issues I had was that the stock was made out of some kind of plastic, that by itself is an issue, and the OEM magazine was not feeding properly. So I got an MTD stock with their magazines and that took care of those issues! I went ahead and reloaded some rounds for it and I tell you what, that thing shot straight like an arrow! After that initial tuning, in some occasions, I took it to the range just to verify zero and most of the time shot 3 rounds and put it away, it was right there! Since I had some other weapons to shoot I shot those instead, but yeah paid 259 USD at academy sports a while back, and sold it after a few years for 1500 USD, they guy came back from a hunting trip and sent me pictures of the hunt and seemed very happy with the rifle. Sold many others with the same results. I just like getting cheap stuff to work better somehow! Working on a little Savage 64 Precision 22lr ATM and already making changes, issues with feeding again! Savage knows about these issues but still sells the same stuff w/o a fix! Shame on you SAVAGE! Please reply to my email, I'm getting too old waiting on a reply! Had a Marlin 795 22lr and that thing was smoking, and shot straight like an arrow, never has any issues with it and looked sexy with the Boyd's TactiCool stock! 😅🤣😂 good show by the way!👍 AR15 S&W Did a few of those too!,
On both my Axis and 783, I used JB Weld mixed with a bunch of hard plastic craft beads to fill the voids in the stock forend. Stiffens them right up and cheap. On the 783, I just glued a penny under the follower of the mag between it and the spring to make it feed reliably.
Thanks for the review... looks like Savage are making some good upgrades to their Axis
I own 2 of 783s (270, 300 win mag). Love them. Both are tack drivers. Upgraded the 300 with a timney trigger and a boyd stock. I could use it in long distance matches if I wanted.
i bought a 243 win in 783 rem. and amazingly it is a shooter sub moa at 100yards, very impressed, bbl a bit heavy but very confortable to shoot, shoot 95 gr hornady in it and it responds very well, my grand-son is very happy
I have a 783 in 6.5 Creedmoor with a thin 22" barrel I have switched to an MDT Oryx Chassis and Vortex Crossfire II 6-24X50 SFP scope consistant .300-.350 inch groups at 200 yds with Factory Ammo Fiocchi 142gr. Sierra Matchking
Cabelas did a black friday deal on the Savage Axis 2 with camo stock and a weaver 3x9 scope for $350, $299 if you had Cabelas credit card. All the common hunting calibers available. They were selling like hotcakes, guy behind me bought 4 of them.
I have a savage axis xp. I kept it for over a year before I had a chance to take it to the range. Probably 18 months or so. I had some small machining debris around the locking lugs in front of the chamber. (Didn't know at the time) chambered a round and gouged the inside of the chamber. I did a basic clean and grease lube on the bolt before taking it out, but didn't get inside the chamber all too much. I called them about it. They said "just ship it with the address provided and they got it back to me in about 3 weeks. Not bad. Although I did pay for shipping. Took it out finally.. with some cheap hunting 150 grain, I was able to get an average of 1.5 MOA, with winchester ammunition without the accu-trigger and a crappy weaver scope. With federal 150gr soft point cheap blue box, i was able to get 1-1.25 MOA. All shots were 3rd groups taken about 2 minutes apart to keep the barrel cool. Wind was not a factor.
I have an accu-trigger I was able to get on ebay. I will install that soon. Also a vortex 50mm scope.
I may also take a Dremel and shave down the sides of the fore grip on the stock around the barrel and pour some epoxy inside to try and stiffen the end of the stock. Hopefully this will help me get tighter groups next time 🤞. Ammo is crazy expensive.
MCARBO sells some upgrades for the Axis; trigger spring kit and a fore end stiffener. Not expensive at all either.
Savage. Much better qc. Perhaps this will change in the future but I have an axis I in 308 that i purchased with a 270 in the same model for 74 dollars a piece. I routinely shoot sub moa with well over 4k rounds. Only thing I've changed is the bolt lift, nikon scope I got on clearance for 50 bucks, and trigger weight reduction kit for 15 bucks through Mcarbo. Mine is a hardwood.
The Remington 783 is available in 6.5 Creed. Also in .243 with 1 in 8 twist FWIW.
only in their heavy barrel version from what i see on their website
Nice review as always my friend.
You should do one on the Sig Sauer Cross, would love to see what you have to say about that rifle
i did one. wasnt impressed with it
Did i post this yet? No questions ask warranty, had a crack inside our axis xp 2 stock, where the screws go and they sent another no charge. We purchased in tan/adult length and asked for a replacement in black/youth length, they sent it
I can't speak to Remington's warranty, but I can say that Savage is excellent. I had an issue with a used Savage 110. Savage sold me a new stainless 110 for about half the price of a new Savage. The issue was not Savage's fault.
Thanks
I own 2 Savage Axis 2. One in 243 and one in 223. Both have no problems in the accuracy department. However, cost and weight savings in some of the components have lead to reliability issues. Both use aftermarket stocks.
What kind of reliability issues ?
@@armorboy24 Small parts of the action break. I’ve had to replace my firing spring, extractor, and the entire trigger group. They’re cheap and easy to replace. But, it could spoil a hunt.
Does the Axis have a bolt shroud/gas deflector sufficient to turn gas from a failed cartridge 90 degrees at the bolt head, like the 783? Looks like it does in the picture…..
There are many reviews out there on the 783 that don't align with your accuracy assessment. Some claim that the 783 can hold its own against some more expensive custom jobs. It also appeared on your video that you had the camera zoomed in more when you fired the 783 on the paper. This would give the illusion of a larger grouping. The 783 borrows some from the savage action, so you would think they would be somewhat similar.
hi Micheal, I can only compare my overall results. and i usually mention how large of groups it get with each rifle so wether or not im zoomed in or not its still just going to represented in inches. also whats important to keep in mind with these rifles, these rifles/ barrels are the cheapest and most mass produced results will vary. for example the mossberg patriot no one seems to get one that group well. mine odly enought was capable of half moa, and a sample size of one really isnt all that indicative of a rifle
@EpikArms
I don't think there has ever been a glaring epidemic of Remington rifles (783 or otherwise) being abnormally produced to the point of enormous accuracy differences. In fact, Remington has been known to produce very accurate rifles. It is my understanding that when they designed the 783, it was their goal to keep production cost low (hence the savage style rceiver) but not sacrifice in the accuracy department. Many of the reviews I have read are reporting varied (but not greatly) results from various factory loads. Many of which are in the 1 inch or less range at 100 yards. With some research or hand loading, they have reported sub MOA groups with the 783's. Anyway, both Savage Axis and Remington 783 are excellent rifles. I think often, though, its a matter of personal preference or perception.
I will keep my 783Rem thank you 😊
I looked at 4 different savage axis 2 rifles, all new, and they all had some form of rust on the barrel. I looked at 3 783s and did not see any form of rust on the barrel.
I have the 783 in a 223rem 😮,,But mine is wood stock and I love it 😀
I have a Remington 783 chambered in 223. But it does not like Tula ammo I had to take my cleaning rod and knock the Spent Cartridge out of the receiver. I also broke my extractor because of the Tula ammo. But I Fixed it and I only shoot brass cartridges. I'm out to 600 yards with this rifle. I have a 4X12X40 Centerpoint On it It holds zero And tracks true I've had the rifle for about 7 years With the same scope. And the scope Has Kept zero ever since. It Tracks back to zero every time I manipulate the scope. I've killed a lot of deer. I gave it to my son and he's killed a lot deer with it also. Talk about a budget rifle lol
Also comes in 7mm rem mag the 783
Im trying to get the od green savage arms axis
Yes it does come in 6.5 creedmoor I have a 783 in that caliber
I live in the desert 250 yard's and out to 700 yard's for Antelope hunting or oryx in white sands park in my state of New Mexico USA. Savage axis XP 2 is my favorite out of 783 Rem. If is not Free floating barrel just get sand paper and a wood dowel will fix that in 2 minutes.🤫 New barrel cast the same as a new rifle.🤔
Finally a GOOD Savage review
The savage axis stock in know of cracking i would upgrade
Savage as a company is great. I purchased a 110 high country with a factory muzzle break. I called Savage to purchase a thread protector to match the barrel and they sent me one for free.
Something you failed to mention is that those aftermarket chassis/magazines are only for the SA 783. No available LA options unfortunately. *cries in 300winmag*
Review that Mauser m18 bro
I had a light firing strike on opening day. Has anyone else experienced this with their 783?
I have a Savage 110m 22-250 and like it.too. But not as nice as the 783Rem.They say they don't make 783 in 22-250,,😢
holy! is that in cornwall? i think i saw you there🤔
Yep its the cornwall handgun club
I have both rifles in 223. Both are accurate but the Remington is more accurate. Trigger is nicer on the Remington.
I have 2 783
in 30-06 and .308, both work amazing and hold grouping around the 2" ,acceptable for me.
both my rifles have seen over 500 rounds at this point and work like a charm.
What bullet grain and brand do you put through you 30-06?
@@Bruce991 180gr remingron green/yellow box
@@punkb3209 haha what a coincidence that’s what I shoot. I may need to practice more. I can’t seem to get 2 inch groups past 100 yards.
@@Bruce991 try more powerful scope
that’s good news for me i won a 783 in 30-06 in a raffle i’m excited to get it!
The best rifle of the two is NOT the whistles and bells, it is that it hits consistantly what you are shooting at. The Target itself will tell you which is the better rifle. does your shots group tightly. Are you able to adjust your point of aim and still hold a tight shot group. The target will tell you where to look for problems. Does your bullets sting or scatter etc etc. Most reviews do not show the target after shooting ....
The axis you fire looks to be a wood stock why did you not us a Woodstock on the rem.
Yep I did. It's just bot in this footage. I represented both rifles printing their best groups. The best group with the rem just so happened to not be with the wood stock
Why didn't you show your groupings on targets?!?
783 also comes in a 7mm08
Which Mambamags are compatible with Savage Axis 2? I can't find any Savage rifle in the list of supported by Mambamags.
Ah you are right. I was sure they had one made. It's likely going to happen soon then
Not claiming to know anything here but isnt the 783 pretty much based on the Savage anyway? Just looking at the the barrel, barrel nut and receiver, they look like the same rifle
The 783 is a Marlin design. Remington bought Marlin and made a few changes to it and I think it is better. They closed up the ejection port some and it made the action more rigid. The Marlin was an excellent rifle and was made much like a Savage. Savage builds good stuff, Remington builds good stuff.
@@davejensen8882 Honest to goodness, other than the after market support for the remmy 700, Im having a really hard time picking the stock 700 adl over the 783. What a great rifle
Can you compare them to CZ600
is that a joke? lol
any CZ is 10 x better than these two rifles... CZ is on par with Tikka, not savage axis lol
@@peterhrkal8165 never tried a cz 600 put good to know planing on getting a cz or tikka thank u
@vincebelmonte7710 I have 4 CZs. A 527 and a 3 557s
Best they are basically as quality as Tikka and Sako. I know someone wi say they aren't but they handle and perform exactly on par with them. The 557s have the scope mount machined into the receiver/action and produce a rock solid base for scope rings... not sure if the 600s have that. Get one, you won't be disappointed at all! Amazing dollar value
@@peterhrkal8165 thank u 👍👍
I bought a axis - piece of JUNK! My 783s are 100% better.Just take off the stock and compare the trigger systems. Plus, for some reason, savage drilled into the barrel thresds where the front stock bolt goes.
I now have 10 barrels for my 783s. Easy to change out. One is a custom 300 prc for long range
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I got one too it just felt weird I got rid of it 783 alot better
So… Boyd’s….
The Remington 783 now comes in 6.5 Creedmoor.
A big problem with these two rifles (and others) is the bolt throw angle... the savage axis scrapes the scope and the rem 783 aint pretty either. No one talks about this... It doesnt matter how "smooth" a bolt is when you rip your finger off on the scope and have 1/8 inch clearance. Cycling sucks in these scoped rifles... The winchester XPR and Browning AB3 etc... are worth the money for the bolt angle along.
Shooting at the range doesn't equate to hunting situations.
The axis shoots good but dam they're ugly. I'm rolling the dice on a 16.5" 308 783
My 783 6.5 creedmoor with Oryx chassis rocks better then Brother axis 2 same caliber and oryx châssis
It wouldve been interesting to see you be fair in this comparison video sir. Lets actually compare these rifles BOTH in their factory stocks instead of adding a 280.00 custom Boyds stock to the savage, essentially making it a 800.00 rifle and then handicapping the Remington by using the factory cheap plastic stock and calling this a fair comparison. Everyone knows these budget rifles main problem concerning accuracy is their “budget” stocks.. but hey, anything to make youtube content right?
Lots of issues with the 783. The most common repairs I make on them at the shop are trigger issues and the fact that no matter what, at some point, your bold is going to just pull straight out of the action when you rack it. The bolt detention system is flawed and after a couple hundred bolt revolutions it will wear smooth and that bolt is just gonna pull right out without you using the release. Easy fix, but it happens to every single one of them.
783 rem is much better if you like to hit what your aiming at. At least those I've dealt with.
I agree I hate savages they bullcrappy guns
I’d take the 783 any day I will never shoot a savage rifle
Your right U Tubers gun vids are mainly useless
Both are trash save your money and buy something you really like!!!! Thank me later
Pencil barrel rifles not good long term rliabilty get a Tikka never worry again
Plastic sling attachments 783 really 😂
I don't want either one. They both have trigger safeties. Trigger safeties have no place on a rifle.
Ok
Then don’t buy one lmfao
elaborate?
You can't go rong with Ether rifle. I like the old savage axis logo back. Not happy so I went and got a 783 Rem 7mm Rem Mag and like it. I'm happy with it.
Savage is a little bit better. Just 🤏🏽