"Electricity is simple" Has neutral bonded to ground in sub panel. Oh and after you fix that. You're not supposed to use a receptacle to jump a neutral. Ground the damn box. Dont sleeve romex into conduit. And for the love of God it's called twelve two with ground. How's that for primadonna?
@prevail223I believe you need to derate it, or at least calc. the load if you do. The jacket bunches the wires together, so... according to code it's not the same thing as 3 separate conductors and ground.
Tyler this guy has fanboys who hang on his every word,in reality he knows nothing about the subject. With him it's his way or it's wrong. Primadonna sums him up nicely.
@Mario the little tabs on receptacles that bond the screws together aren't rated to carry what the wire should. You can't depend on it to keep the neutral path continuous
To tell you the true we had an electrician at work and he was arrogant as hell, I'm a computer tech and by New Jersey law now we need to have a certified electrician to run internet cable... nice check our democrat politicians received from the the electricians union for sure.
@Quayd Korman From the IBEW website, under the "Politcal Spending" Tab: www.unionfacts.com/union/International_Brotherhood_of_Electrical_Workers#political-tab Donations to Democrats $29,583,815 (96%) Donations to Republicans $968,170 (3%) 527 Spending A union's 527 committee makes contributions to political candidates and other organizations for the purpose of influencing the outcome of an election. Unlike Political Action Committees, which are strictly regulated by the Federal Election Commission, 527s are regulated by the IRS. These committees are often considered a form of "soft money." Total 527 Expenditures $51,576,329 Federal Lobbying Total Spent Lobbying $17,311,850 Of course, the IBEW expects nothing in return, like laws requiring licensed electricians to run internet cable. Note that they give very little to Republicans. Maybe because their votes aren't for sale!
I think every electrician had a little chuckle around the 14:00 mark when he talked about the pleasure of doing something right or fixing something someone else messed up lol.
FWIW: I done a lot of my one electrical work and it passes inspection. I would have an electrician do it, but here it takes 6 months or more to schedule with an electrician due to many construction projects and too few local electricians.
@@frenchmontana961 Everything I do is commerical grade: MC & EMT (Yes with offsets). Before I start I check the Code and also research to figure out the best way to do it.
Right! If he knew anything he would've wire nutted pig tails and bonded boxes. Also, why didn't he buy a ground bus/lug for the sub? Neutral and ground are only supposed to be bonded at the first POS. Needs to get off his high horse talking about "it feels so good to do something right" lmao
Yes, NM cable can be in conduit and should be protected when exposed requiring protection from physical damage. So here we go again, the ignorant calling others arrogant. And no, those boxes do not always need to be grounded as there is an uninsulated independent ground and metallic yokes, but they still should in at least one spot in my opinion. I have found a good electrician to be a dime a dozen. And with as exclusive as that trade is, folks ought to be careful to call them out when doing a shitty job. Other violations, sure call him out on them. But before you start commenting, make sure what little you have to say is right or you are part of the problem. ARTICLE 334 Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable: Types NM, NMC, and NMS II. Installation 334.15 Exposed Work. In exposed work, except as provided in 300.11(A), cable shall be installed as specified in 334.15(A) through (C). (B) Protection from Physical Damage. Cable shall be protected from physical damage where necessary by rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, electrical metallic tubing, Schedule 80 PVC conduit, Type RTRC marked with the suffix -XW, or other approved means. Where passing through a floor, the cable shall be enclosed in rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, electrical metallic tubing, Schedule 80 PVC conduit, Type RTRC marked with the suffix -XW, or other approved means extending at least 150 mm (6 in.) above the floor. [ROP 7-94] Type NMC cable installed in shallow chases or grooves in masonry, concrete, or adobe shall be protected in accordance with the requirements in 300.4(F) and covered with plaster, adobe, or similar finish. 250.146 (A) Surface Mounted Box. Where the box is mounted on the surface, direct metal to metal contact between the device yoke and the box or a contact yoke or a self grounding receptacle shall be permitted to ground the receptacle to the box.
Marty Vener I cringed when he stripped the romex. Jammed that utility knife in there so far he totally damaged the insulation on the wire. Seen it done many times by people that don’t even notice.
"why are electricians arrogant?" Five years in school, and thousands of hours on the job so people like you can complain about us while creating a fire hazard on video... that's why.
Yes we/I do/did spend 5 years in school that is not any sort of exaggeration. We don't just learn how to hang up ceiling fans in your house, we also learn how to build nuclear power houses, hospitals, and giant factories that make all the things you and I enjoy every day.
@@JohnColombo RELY??? 5 years of school and then 5 years of apprenticeship before you are an electrician?? No you didnt. Please post what country you are from and the requirements of an electricians apprenticeship program. Ontario Canada Electrician - Construction and Maintenance is 9000 hours (approximately five years) consisting of 8160 hours of on-the-job work experience and 840 hours of in-school training USA with some variances between different states Register as an electrician apprentice or trainee Complete at least 720 hours of relevant classroom instruction through a state-approved school (can be part of an apprenticeship) Acquire at least 8,000 hours of supervised on-the-job experience from a certified electrician (can be part of an apprenticeship) Pass the state certification exam YOU WERE SAYING???
@Quayd Korman to be clear. There is not 5 years of school and an apprenticeship. There is, in Canada, 840 hours of school WHILE you are an apprentice or 720 hours of school in the US. In the USA you are only required 8000 hours of apprenticeship. Canada 9000 hours. Texas is out there on it's own with 12000 hours. There is not a requirement of 5 years of school. Suggesting to people that there, is lying to them. Is the USA you are REQUIRED to do 18 full time weeks worth of in classroom education to become an electrician. Those 18 weeks are spread out over 5 years of apprenticeship. An electrician is just a trade like all the others. All the trades are required to do in classroom work and maintain their knowledge base throughout their careers.
If you don’t want to hire a licensed electrician, at least read up the importance of keeping your neutral and ground isolated from each other after your main panel.
@@StandAgainstTheGlobalists if you’ve seen the charred remains of a ground wire that tried to carry the entire load of a sub panel after it lost a neutral, you’d think it’s a big deal.
@@jasrenfro9856 I’m a journeyman electrician and he’s not wrong the dude in the video is a major hack I would not take notes on his electrical skills he violates several codes throughout the video
They are, 20amps is just fine if the wire gauge is adequate. Standard home wiring can go up to 25 amps before a fire hazard is present. 15 amps is standard as most items in the home don't need much more than that and gives enough wiggle room for shitty builders who used poor wiring or old wiring. A new house can support 20amps all throughout just fine. Most kitchen appliances that aren't 220 use 20 amps and most of the time if you convert an outlet on an old house to support a microwave you would just put in a 20 amp breaker and be fine. It's code in most areas as well. stop fear mongering.
Watching this makes me feel like maybe all of his other videos are full of garbage that I don’t know about just because I’m not in that industry... maybe that’s why all the loggers are always freaking out!!!
Licensed Master Electrician here. Hope you never have someone learn from your video and then someone dies because you do not follow the code, which is LAW.
Ditto, Master Electrician and Service Technician (40 yrs) here as well. We could make a code seminar out of this video. Was painful to watch. He better hope no inspectors were watching.
We have a saying in Chicago , " Amateurs teach amateurs how to be amateurs" one more for effect , If a job is hard give me a min., If it's imposible, give me two".
Like I said I'm not an electrician, I probably would have bonded it with the ground wire anyway. But then again I'm the guy that grounded his propane water heater
@@mdvener my water heater actually doesn't have electricity running to it. When I first got the place,, the water was hot in more ways than one. They had a water line running through the vertical knock outs in the breaker box. I re plumbed, and rewired the house. The house was something scary movies were made of.
if he would have grounded the boxes, the return through the neutral back to source is also returning through the bare ground and if he grounded the boxes, it is now live with return power isnt it ? LOL get a hold of that with sweaty hands and hang on for the ride !!
I’m a licensed electrician, and I’m not arrogant! We probably seem arrogant because people like you think you know enough to do electrical work yourself. If you would like, I could list each of your several NEC electrical code violations, and point out the short comings in your work in this video. Electricians spend as much time obtaining a journeyman’s license as a college student spends getting a degree, but people complain when they have to pay to have something done right..... thanks for your support 🙄...
Exactly! and thank you! I did a 6 year apprenticeship... 2 years residential, and 4 commercial and Industrial. I cringed watching this video, but even more at the arrogance cody showed in his blanket condemnation of most highly trained craftsman on any job! 42 years later and I was and am still learning! Again, Thank you! Rick
I'm not an electrician, but I would love to hear what is wrong with this setup? I think it is the same in my outbuilding that my dad built... Am I missing something?
@@carbonfusion Yes you are missing something, but as an electrician I'm not stupid enough to tell you how to do it and get sued when it goes wrong for you. If your so inclined several of the things he did wrong are listed in different comments.
Greetings from and English electrician. 3-4 year apprenticeship and the amount of people who think they know better because they have done it in their house and it's fine is incredible, with their "it hasn't burnt down" yet attitudes.
@Mario The box itself needs to be grounded, attached to the ground wire via a green bonding screw. Over time emt set screws loosen and can open the "grounded" path creating a dangerous situation.
@@alexdownard1948 Beg to differ. As temperature changes metal shrinks and contacts making the set screws lose over the years. A separate grounding wire is the best way to go.
I'm not here to teach people how to do my job, nor am I the one putting a step by step video up of how to do something (incorrectly). Most of the mistakes I noticed were techniques he probably saw done when he was in the trades but are no longer up to code and for good reason. If you are looking for a how to video look for one made by an electrician. I've come to expect a little bit more than this from Cody, but if you really want a pointer Phill, hire an electrician.
All the electricians I ever worked with were very nice and helpful. They had no problem sharing information or discussing how electricity works or the proper work to wire.
Seems nice he can post a video and 50 electricians tell him every code violation before the inspector shows up :) Instead of paying for electrical work I should just post some youtube videos and get all the advice for free!
If you think he actually pulled a permit for this job youre crazy. He mentions a permit but that final product would fail inspection for at least 6 different reasons.
@@Steven0sborne i wouldn't assume that. I pulled permits for a studs-up kitchen remodel, redid all the wiring. The inspector came for electrical sign off, wiggled one box, and said "You wired this yourself? And you are going to live here?" I agreed, and he said "OK" and signed off. This was in CA. Permits are mainly for increasing your tax basis on property, and generating revenue for the city so far as I could tell.
And this is why I build in a permit free zone bow I know there are laws ypur supposed to follow but they dont actualy have anyone on the books to inforce them
Thank you for creating fire hazards and leading others to do the same Mr. Know-it-all. Our code book is written by the National Fire Protection Agency for a reason. Not one of your better videos here.
As an electrician having an "attitude" can help save your life. Other people are always telling you what to do.I usually tune them out so I don't make a serious mistake.
knurlgnar24 when people criticize a trade they know nothing about and try to tell you how to do your job which you go to school for and practice over thousands of hours it’s better not to listen because they know not what they are talking about electricity isn’t as simple and if you don’t have a general understanding of it it’s better to let someone who does and has the training for it do the job because it will be done professionally ,right, and safe
@@martinmeza6291 Absolutely incorrect. Dogma and political protection is a powerful combination in the trades that causes overconfidence among those ordained by the authorities to practice their craft without competition. I experience this in my line of work as well. People go to school for religious studies for thousands of hours too and think they are next to God, but yet they often know little of merit on the subject next to laypeople. If a studied person doesn't respect the perspectives of laypeople around them they have no business practicing their craft and do great harm to those in the craft who are the true masters of said craft.
Some may people confuse my insistence on quality and safe work with arrogance. However having witnessed 2 electrocutions first hand in my 24 years in the profession, and coming in behind people who didn't have enough knowledge to understand what they were doing, I occasionally get testy. I do insist my guys keep a clean and orderly work area, but I've seen plenty who don't. Electricity can be very dangerous and it's really quite sobering to watch the life being pulled out of somebody by an invisible energy force. Did I mention it also hurts like hell the entire time it's killing you?
4 years in shool, 10 year as working full time electrician, last year with my own firm. this man is very dangerous, to himself and to others, all i have to say
Just came across this video, I'm from the UK and our code of practice is to sleeve the cpc (circuit protective conductor) and to earth the back box is a must. We also test our work to verify compliance with regulation allowances. If you are going to post your work online for everyone to see and comment, make sure it's correct. I know I'm from a different country but by the looks of the other comments, I'm not alone on this one.
See even in the UK you are way off base. PLEASE STOP MAKING ELECTRICAL VIDEOS!!! I'm terrified to think your kids might be in the area of this fire and safety hazard.
It seems like it has been a long time since you have been around electricians. Back in the 90's when I broke in a lot of Electrical contractors wouldn't clean up their mess because the GC didn't want to pay them too. They wanted to cut bids down so they would take out clean up with the agreement that the GC would. I always cleaned up after myself or made it as easy as I could on the one that followed me. It's just the right thing to do. Now back to your work. You probably won't kill anyone with it. Well we all hope not anyway. But you are definitely going to make the next guy behind you shake his head and ask WTF? Pretty crappy for a guy talking smack about the trade he is trying to replace. Keep the great moments in building science coming LOL.
Imagine calling other people arrogant while literally risking your life butchering their trade skills because you refuse to let someone else do the job.
I’m not arrogant I just know a lot. The wire you had was 12/2 12 being the size of wire and 2 being the number of current carrying conductors the bare/grounds not counted
@@cheeseburger9232 normally you dont if you run nomex just staple it to the wall. Had a few years running wire just trying to figure out why he didn't ground out to the box?
Don’t do what this guy did. Idea is there but do not use this guys video as a tutorial, its an unsafe install - Licensed Electrician And we always clean up after ourselves We’re not plumbers 😂😜
im learning for journeyman electrician in serbia and ive never seen daisy chained so many plugins.. even metal casings for EVERYTHING... also do you folks not use RCD's for gnd/neutral control? because he obviously had connected gnd to neutral.. and that utility butchering through the insulation of cables... omg.
Is it normal to connect neutral to ground in America? In Europe we have a separate ground rail for ground. It's connected to a metal rod embedded in the actual ground/earth/soil. Neutral often floats around >10 volts instead of being dead zero. Funny thing is, European connectors are symmetrical, meaning the neutral and phase can be swapped around by re-plugging, sometimes it causes phase and noise issues in older tube electronics.
Da Qoraxxx ground and neutrals are bonded in the main service disconnect, any sub panels or disconnects after that they must be separate. This is a pretty big violation in this video
@@spudatbattleaxe In serbia there is illegal practice applied in old housings called nulling - connecting neutral to gnd because old housings do not have propper gnd wires. and it prevents the use of rcd in main fuse panel... sad but true
@@mattjames8683 wrong type of cable should be t90 or other applicable types, not sure what you are using the plugs for but 20amp circuits for plugs shouldn't have 6 outlets, grounds should be bonded to the boxes, conduit has no metal straps on them, neutral and ground buss's in the sub panel should be isolated until the main distribution panel. (metallic pipes often don't require running grounds through them they act as a ground themselves)
This video made my head hurt and the fact that you were a superintendent screams nepotism because you surely aren’t electrically inclined how could you run an entire job not knowing if they did their job right
I’ve seen tradesmen of every type not clean up . Personally I do because my work reflects on me as a private contractor . As far as arrogance , that is something that is often times confused with a non willingness to compromise . I personally take your safety very seriously . When I get “ can we just “ or “ can you do this to just get me by “. That answer is most often an unwavering no.
You don't take safety seriously, you take your pride seriously. Stop being so arrogant. Listening to criticism can only make you wiser as no one is right all of the time.
Yup. Another of those "electricians don't need to know anything. Anyone can do electrical work" videos. Let me see you bend box offsets in that conduit.
I've worked for the local school district as an electrician for 15 years, even the licensed guys screw up. They cost a lot, even the bad ones for a reason. With that being said, it's possible Wranglestar might have had potential to be an apprentice candidate......not now!!! 30+ years in the trade and not "arrogant" .....confident. Keeping people and property is serious business. There is an NEC for a reason..... Guys and videos like this!
@@johnfrantz1086 but what he’s saying is your pipe coming out of the box is straight there is o offset. When you actually look at your pipe work it’s trash. It’s nice for pulling cause all straights 😂but looks terrible
I'm calling his homestead right now and telling him that if he expects his like & subscribe any time soon, he'd better send someone to clean up that mess!
Please separate your ground and neutrals! only bond Neutral at the transformer (which will be done by your POCO). You may have problems with breakers not tripping with your subpanel set up like that. and that could be a very bad time! Many of us are arrogant, but its usually the really arrogant ones who don't actually know anything. The ones of us that do are open to learning and owning up to our mistakes. and we clean up after ourselves as well. we go to school (either college, or a recognized apprenticeship) for many years to become a Journeyman. We take pride in our work. You are an intelligent man, and I have confidence that you would seek help if you needed it. This is a simple job, and with a little guidence (ground and neutral not bonded!) you can handle it. Most people can't. Even some electricians can't, such as with a buddy of mine and his uncle. My buddy buys a house, and it has an old fuse box and no ground in it. His uncle says "we can just run a ground wire from the plug and tie it to the neutral!" and I had to step in and tell my buddy to NOT bootleg the ground. Don't have to run all new wire, but to be compliant with code he'll need GFCI receptacles with the proper labelling to let people know there is no equipment ground. but please, fix that neutral/ground problem! and please ground your boxes, and wrap a little tape around your receptacles to guard against shorts. :)
Bonding is done at the first disconnect which is usually your main panel but codes in many states now require a a disconnect before your main panel so bonding is done there now.
Dude I don’t think so..... Sure electricians have become basically the more important trade to be in but it’s definitely not the most important industry or workforce type.
agreed. I would not daisy chain outlets like this. Daisy chaining will work as far as delivering power but its not something i would do. Get some wire nuts use the right pig tail connections.
@@jellybean7253 Between the two screws on the side of the receptacle is a little stamped metal link. It is so you can separate the two outlets in case you wanted to switch one side with a lightswitch and the other stay hot. The link is stamped and bent so you can easily remove it. When you chain receptacles like Cody did that little metal link is now a "Current carrying conductor". Every bit of current for the downstream receptacle will now flow through those links. They are not rated as a "CCC" so it is against code to daisy chain like that. It could overheat due to high current flowing through it. If the neutral side link were to break it could create a situation where the black and white wires on all the downstream outlets would be Hot. That could lead to plugging in a tool and it's case being energized or other issues. The "what could happen by daisy chaining" is a rabbit hole that doesn't end well. The proper way to install a receptacle is a 6" black, white and grounding pigtail from each outlet bonded in the box to the incoming wire.
@@davidp8563 It will happen with any voltage. When the neutral wire is broken and there is a load plugged in, all the neutrals that are disconnected from the panel will have voltage on them. An exercise you can do to see it in action is take a 12v automobile light bulb with 2 leads. Only connect the positive lead to the car battery and test the voltage between the negative lead and the battery post. 12v!
@@offroadtek00 interesting I did wonder the same thing (I'm a UK electrician) why you wouldn't link the 2 sockets together that way it confused me a bit questioning how you would get power to the other sockets with a 2 core cable. Also could you not just uprate the links so they would be able to carry higher current provided the neutral doesn't break with a bigger/higher rated link the risk of overhearing is mitigated
Unfknblvbl!! This guy is a danger to himself AND others!! DO NOT do what this guy says..... Superintendent of what??! Christ! I'd hate to see his jobs.........
@Joe Crow Yes, we do, however not all things that exist outside of that book, which varies by local, is fire and danger and death itself. Believe me, I deal with residential and commercial code daily. A lot of stuff doesn't meet code and nobody ever notices or cares. The rules are very general and sometimes they don't work or don't matter in certain contexts. It's not a black and white affair
"Superintendent." Aren't they the arrogant ones? Think they know how to do other people's jobs just because they think by watching so many professionals work that they can do it themselves?
We aren't arrogant. We are the gentleman craft. We have more at stake than nearly every other craft on the job, and most of us (union Craftsmen) are trained to do perfect work with fewer tools. Clean-up is a laborer's job. All that said, we only seem arrogant to those who wish they were electricians and won't make the jump. Those who can, do and those who can't, criticize. Local union 369, Louisville, KY
Quality can be seen in the purchase of oats. If you want nice clean fresh outs you must pay a fair price. If you can be content with oats that have already been through the horse you can pay slightly less.
with those type of receptacles you can just leave the wire straight and put in not around the screw because the screw actually screws a plate in on the inside to hold the wires. you dont want to do that with are the ones that just use a spring to hold the wire in. Also that's 12/2 wire. don't count the ground.
benzmansl65amg Offsets were not put into the conduits where it enters the boxes, the conduit should be touching the wall. None of the conduit is supported to the wall with conduit straps. The screws on the conduit connectors are facing the wrong direction. He should have used a wire-nut instead of that crimp, generally solid wire can’t be crimped. But like the other guy said it works, and it’s a lot better than some of the other journeyman’s work I’ve seen😂
Not an electrician, but I would say in many cases the answer is, “Don’t confuse a respect for the deadliness of electricity for arrogance.” Electricity is no joke. Once you see a badly shocked/burned person (I have), or someone get electrocuted, you’d never let politeness get in the way of what you know to be true.
Good thing you're a firefighter. You'll surely be needing them for that building soon. Hope you didn't do any electrical work in your house 😳😳 -arrogant electrician
As an English electrician I’d say what a bloody mess that was ,liked the comment about not needing many tools ,not a test meter in sight 😱 that’s why an electrician charges what he does as thousands of pounds worth of training and tools are needed to carry out the job expertly and safely
Quite a few violations in this video. No grounding of the metal boxes or conduit. The ground screw was present and no bond bushing was installed in the panel. No strapping on the piping. The grounds and neutrals are not separated inside the sub panel. You didnt use the clamps on the outlets and instead wrapped the conductors over top the clamps. No main breaker in the sub panel where typically a main cut off should be present at any sub panel not within sight of the main panel. No GFI protection on these outlets is also a violation. Also not best practice to run Non metallic cable inside metallic emt conduit. You should've used THHN conductors. I normally wouldn't pick apart your videos until you called electricians arrogant and suggest we over charge. That extra cost goes to education and a guarantee that the work will be done safe and to local code. That was not done here and I suggest you research before potentially showing millions how to do illegal electrical work.
I won't get you started on the fact he used jumpers and didn't tape around the plugs in a metal box i also didn t see no grounding for cable in the box.
Steven Osborne perfectly stated! I truly like Cody’s videos, and he did mention this is probably not a good video to learn from, but I saw exactly the same thing! Nice reply.
You and I know all this but did you have to tell this nail pounder exactly why his install is illegal and not to code, and how to do our work? We spend years getting educated on ever changing code and proper installs at a high cost of education and you give it all away to every nail pounder for free.
Lol you are some triggered electricians. He’s obviously not a damn professional or master electrician. It’s a simple home diy and you guys get triggered. Who tf cares if he didn’t do it perfect as long as it works. Gesh, remind me never to contract you picky bastards
@@johnsalcido5436 there's a Code for a reason and pulling permits for a reason. When your house burns down because of your own faulty wiring job, your insurance is going to tell you to kick rocks because you didn't have a permit pulled and didn't have a licensed electrician do the work. Much cheaper to rebuild a house than to hire a licensed and bonded professional.
I retired from commercial electrical work 13 years ago. Cody, do yourself a favor, spend some money and buy a NEC code book and follow it. I do not agree with some of the codes in there but for the most part, they are sound and having a copy and reading might save a life some day, or at least a ton of money. You do neat work, but Romex in conduit is a no-no, Bond all metal boxes to ground and keep your grounds and neutral wires separate once you leave your main service.
were not arrogant just well trained 😁 that is a twin breaker not a double pole, twins come off the same leg in the panel, double poles use both legs and give you 240
Lot of us enjoy your videos, some commenting on the facts pertaining to the Electrical Lessons. Just because it works does not mean it is correct, which is something to be considered. One fact mentioned here is "you get what you pay for." Lastly, as an electrician in NYC, I see numerous job sites with Qualified Electricians but unqualified on cleaning up their mess. Ultimately it all comes down to Safety and taking Pride on the Quality of work.
At 0:37 is a deadly practice, left hand on panel/ground, right hand pointing into panel! You should never work on an open panel with 2 hands!! I've seen to many people get rapped by leaning an arm or hand onto panel! Use the one hand in pocket rule. Be safe✌🏻
Why are electricians arrogant? We’re not, we have to tolerate idiots that think they know what they are doing then when they mess up their stuff they we, electricians, have to fix it.
RepublicOfCatyes 12/3 has 3 current carrying wires. A hot a neutral and a traveler. The ground is a wire and is in there but it isn’t included in the name associated with the cable. This man just called 12/2 12/3 which just gave me a brain aneurism
As an electrician there is a list of things I could comment on that are inncorrect. However, I will only say one, 12/3 is not what you were working with.
Code says if it is a metal box it has to to be grounded inside the box as well I was noticing the same thing LOL but you have to recognize about half of his channel content is entertainment and the other half is informational
@@bebo5558 You may think that but its still not code, if inspected it would not pass. I am not a licensed electrician but both my father and uncle are, I have installed hundreds of plugs and boxes for them back in the 80's and 90's and the way that I was taught was to run a ground to the box and from the box to the plug, if there are multiple ground wires they need to be tied together with a special ground wire nut (we use the greene marretes) with a hole in the end for one lead to pass through. Just because something works does not mean it is the right way to do it.
ELECTRICAL CODE BOOK 101: I have been in the electrical industry since 1978. From taking coffee orders as an apprentice to laying out decks on midtown Manhattan hi-rises. I take offense to being classified as "arrogant" by anyone that has mastered nothing. I have always policed my work area as do most tradesman. I would respectfully request you pull down this video outlining the performance of an electrical installation without prefacing this video first with credentials, licensing and a waiver for safety. You may be a superintendent of a job-site........but it ends there. If you were just out to impress the youtube audience with your knowledge on an electrical install....you blew it. Stick with time sheets wranglestar.
Another observation I was taught when installing a device to connect ground-neutral-power When disconnecting you the power-neutral-ground. But hey I’m just a dumb electrician who doesn’t clean up after himself 😭
You are correct grasshopper, but that is specific to working with power on. With power off, how could it matter? Keep training and get your masters license!
Always ground first in case the super or some other trade starts flicking breakers on because the microwave/saw/computer doesn't have power. At least you have a ground available to take the current away
12/3 would be size 12 wire and 3 current carrying conductors so there would be red white and black along with the ground, 12/2 is the cable ur using rn
Is it too late to bring up the GFCI requirement in garages? "Yes, all 125-volt, single phase, 15- or 20-amp receptacles in a garage must be GFCI-protected, with only one esoteric exclusion that we will cover later. But it wasn’t always this way. Up until the 2008 edition of the NEC (National Electrical Code), there were two exceptions allowed for the GFCI requirement at garage receptacles: 1) Receptacles that were not readily accessible, such as a ceiling receptacle for a garage door opener. 2) A single receptacle that served one appliance or a duplex receptacle serving two appliances, which was on a dedicated circuit and “located within a dedicated space for each appliance that, in normal use, is not easily moved.” Typical examples were a water softener, sprinkler control panel, washing machine, freezer, or refrigerator." Link: www.howtolookatahouse.com/Blog/Entries/2018/6/are-all-garage-electric-receptacles-required-to-be-gfci-protected.html
Yeah, but code wants GFCI everywhere and where its not GFCI then lightning suppressed or w/e they call it. Seems to me Square D is wanting to sell more $35 breakers vs $6 breakers. I agree GFCI has its place and they work great but it doesn't mean they should be everywhere.
@@willagresham2978 Don't have to use breaker...Could just put in a single GFCI receptacle and use the downstream load option which will protect the other outlets
4cpus4me most of the GFCI receptacles are rated for either 15 or 20 amps based on the sense coil. If you use the multiple load option, you run the risk of overloading them, and with only 2 120volt circuit and one 240 volt circuit here, it makes more sense to use an GFCI and Arc arrester breaker combination.
I am not a licensed electrician but I follow the code as a guideline not as the law I only use gfci on outdoor outlets or in wet locations such as a kitchen or bathroom
@@wranglerstar I know, I'm just messing with you. Lol. Sorry, I was one of those electricians that never cleaned up. 😁 As a commercial electrician I always pigtailed receptacles instead of jumping.
Just thought I would let you kno if you didn't already they make adapters now where you can use Millwaukee battery's with Dewalt in Makita in vice versa so now we can be free from being loyal to one power tool company we can interchange there batteries in if you want to buy a bare tool you can interchange batteries.
Id recommend putting some good electrical tape around those plugs over the screws. That way if you ever have to open it up and pull em out you dont accidentally grab onto them and get a nice buzz. Just a quick thing to do to prevent you or other people from getting shocked. (ask me how I know haha)
Are we being trolled? That bonded neutral to the grounds in a sub is a no no. I can take everything else as a joke, but for Christ sake don't do that one.
True Story - A man in Florida did the wiring to his outdoor hot tub and saved a few bucks. When he stepped inside the water to enjoy his work he died instantly. Investigation was done and found that he had a open circuit with no proper grounding. Water became an invisible killer. Be careful. Electricians have alot of responsibility and burden, it's not arrogance or greed.
Ugh! Maybe Mrs W really does need to see this video (and read all the comments)! Best to have someone double check your work. "An ounce of prevention". BTW, arrogance could be as simple as thinking that you know everything and are just too cheap and too stubborn to hire a professional when needed.
About 17 years ago we added onto our house. We hired the foundation, framing and roofing out and I did the rest - wiring, plumbing, sheetrock, etc. I pulled a building, plumbing and electrical permit from the city. Then I bought Black and Deckers plumbing and electrical books and followed them. Yeah, laugh your asses off Sparky... The electrical inspector came out and acted like an electrician - pretty arrogant and condescending. I followed him around and he changed his tone. Said he hadn't seen such work by a homeowner. I thanked him and told him that I used the B&D book. He replied that he wished the electricians in the area would buy a copy. He told me to go ahead and cover the walls. When it came time for the final, he checked a few outlets with a circuit tester and signed off on the permit. The plumbing permit and inspections whent the same way. While I would never attempt industrial or commercial jobs, I felt competent to DIY.
Dear Ed, “those who can’t do, inspect”. Chances are pretty high you were told you did a great job by a nincompoop! Do you still have you calc sheets, you know the ones you should have prepared before adding to an existing electrical system?
Exactly, how’d you use the B&D book when adding onto your existing electrical system didnt you need to reference the codebook at anytime? And, theres a reason why we have new codebooks every 3 years. Plus that was 17 years ago lol
Electricians get it from both ends. Ether the customer thinks your arrogant or they don't want to pay someone electrical rates for sweeping the floor. If the job is bid the floor sweeping should be included. If it's time and material ask the customer if they want to save a little by doing that themselves. Most often mom and pop will gladly sweep and of coarse it's their choice.
Oof, even as a diy guy I noticed some mistakes and nomenclature errors. I know this is a small project, but before I wired my unfinished basement, I had the gumption to read an up to date Black and Decker home wiring book. I know it's probably not perfect, but I felt it was well enough to be safe. It passed inspection easily enough anyhow. I only missed a couple nail plates.
Ah, the old romex in conduit scenario that has melted down many discussion groups previously... might have to make some popcorn once the comments start rolling in.
"Electricity is simple"
Has neutral bonded to ground in sub panel.
Oh and after you fix that.
You're not supposed to use a receptacle to jump a neutral.
Ground the damn box.
Dont sleeve romex into conduit.
And for the love of God it's called twelve two with ground.
How's that for primadonna?
@prevail223 Not really but it's more expensive than using wire off a reel.
@prevail223I believe you need to derate it, or at least calc. the load if you do. The jacket bunches the wires together, so... according to code it's not the same thing as 3 separate conductors and ground.
Tyler this guy has fanboys who hang on his every word,in reality he knows nothing about the subject. With him it's his way or it's wrong. Primadonna sums him up nicely.
Electricity isn’t that hard, people made it hard than it needed to be.
@Mario the little tabs on receptacles that bond the screws together aren't rated to carry what the wire should. You can't depend on it to keep the neutral path continuous
I may just be an apprentice electrician, but this video gives me an urge to drive over there and get it done correctly.
Amen to that
That's what he's counting on!
For real! I'm dying to correct his issues!
Same!
Ikr
This video is the reason why you SHOULD hire an electrician.
@Doctor Mudd Also ground and neutral in the same buss bar in a subpanel, the irony.
@@chancho00 and double tapped
As soon as he pulled out the romex, i knew this was gonna be bad.
It’s unbelievable how he calls electricians arrogant and then proceeds to butcher some electrical work.
Makes you cringe doesn't it.
Then why did you watch the video?.
Irony is great!
To tell you the true we had an electrician at work and he was arrogant as hell, I'm a computer tech and by New Jersey law now we need to have a certified electrician to run internet cable... nice check our democrat politicians received from the the electricians union for sure.
@Quayd Korman From the IBEW website, under the "Politcal Spending" Tab:
www.unionfacts.com/union/International_Brotherhood_of_Electrical_Workers#political-tab
Donations to Democrats
$29,583,815 (96%)
Donations to Republicans
$968,170 (3%)
527 Spending
A union's 527 committee makes contributions to political candidates and other organizations for the purpose of influencing the outcome of an election. Unlike Political Action Committees, which are strictly regulated by the Federal Election Commission, 527s are regulated by the IRS. These committees are often considered a form of "soft money."
Total 527 Expenditures
$51,576,329
Federal Lobbying
Total Spent Lobbying
$17,311,850
Of course, the IBEW expects nothing in return, like laws requiring licensed electricians to run internet cable. Note that they give very little to Republicans. Maybe because their votes aren't for sale!
You should do a follow up video fixing all the code violations and explain the safety reasons behind them.
Thank you
He isn’t qualified to install electrical work, much less able to explain it!! What a fool!! Yet electricians cost too much!!
That I would be interested in because then maybe I would learn something. The rambling comments have not taught me much.
@@brucehackney2217 but but but!..."electricity is simple stuff!"
I’m an apprentice but that is awful
You absolutely have to separate the grounds from the neutrals in a sub fed panel. You just made your grounds current carrying wires.
I think every electrician had a little chuckle around the 14:00 mark when he talked about the pleasure of doing something right or fixing something someone else messed up lol.
Baaaahhhaaaaa, so true
FWIW: I done a lot of my one electrical work and it passes inspection. I would have an electrician do it, but here it takes 6 months or more to schedule with an electrician due to many construction projects and too few local electricians.
@@guytech7310 an inspector can't catch all of your fuckups, dude. The NEC is a minimum standard, not guidelines for a good installation
@@frenchmontana961 Everything I do is commerical grade: MC & EMT (Yes with offsets). Before I start I check the Code and also research to figure out the best way to do it.
@@guytech7310 Yep, its not rocket science.
An arrogant electrician wouldn't have ran nmsc in emt and would have definitely grounded the boxes.
Coming from an arrogant electrician, I definitely agree.😂 If you think it's expensive hiring a electrician, try hiring a inexperienced one.
Oof
Right! If he knew anything he would've wire nutted pig tails and bonded boxes. Also, why didn't he buy a ground bus/lug for the sub? Neutral and ground are only supposed to be bonded at the first POS. Needs to get off his high horse talking about "it feels so good to do something right" lmao
Yes, NM cable can be in conduit and should be protected when exposed requiring protection from physical damage. So here we go again, the ignorant calling others arrogant. And no, those boxes do not always need to be grounded as there is an uninsulated independent ground and metallic yokes, but they still should in at least one spot in my opinion. I have found a good electrician to be a dime a dozen. And with as exclusive as that trade is, folks ought to be careful to call them out when doing a shitty job.
Other violations, sure call him out on them. But before you start commenting, make sure what little you have to say is right or you are part of the problem.
ARTICLE 334 Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable: Types NM, NMC, and NMS
II. Installation
334.15 Exposed Work. In exposed work, except as provided in 300.11(A), cable shall be installed as specified in 334.15(A) through (C).
(B) Protection from Physical Damage. Cable shall be protected from physical damage where necessary by rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, electrical metallic tubing, Schedule 80 PVC conduit, Type RTRC marked with the suffix -XW, or other approved means. Where passing through a floor, the cable shall be enclosed in rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, electrical metallic tubing, Schedule 80 PVC conduit, Type RTRC marked with the suffix -XW, or other approved means extending at least 150 mm (6 in.) above the floor. [ROP 7-94] Type NMC cable installed in shallow chases or grooves in masonry, concrete, or adobe shall be protected in accordance with the requirements in 300.4(F) and covered with plaster, adobe, or similar finish.
250.146 (A) Surface Mounted Box. Where the box is mounted on the surface, direct metal to metal contact between the device yoke and the box or a contact yoke or a self grounding receptacle shall be permitted to ground the receptacle to the box.
As soon as he pointed to the roll of 12/2 and said "12/3" I knew I was in for a treat
As a union electrician, that was very hard to watch I want to fix all of it for him
What local?
IBEW Local 3 since 1985 here.
As an electrician, this guy is killing me... And probably anyone that touches his work
I came down to say the same thing he honestly didnt know the name was strippers🤦
@@kodiak_snuff_king2142 the "shielding or whatever its called." must be a non union residential guy.
Waddya mean? Did you see the way he polished up that pig's ear, er, panel?
@@ascension6699 Or just a union guy?
@@awickedtribe he's never done industrial, so not a union guy.
To all my fellow electricians out there
How many code violations did you spot
I hate when people that dont know what there doing try to teach others
Over 10 😂
Marty Vener I cringed when he stripped the romex. Jammed that utility knife in there so far he totally damaged the insulation on the wire. Seen it done many times by people that don’t even notice.
5 by my count
I did count 5 but I lost count after and didn't want to rewatch it lol
Love the bonded neutral and ground bus in the sub panel...
"why are electricians arrogant?" Five years in school, and thousands of hours on the job so people like you can complain about us while creating a fire hazard on video... that's why.
Five years in school? What are you a doctor? Dont help this twit out by being arrogant. You are just an electrician.
Yes we/I do/did spend 5 years in school that is not any sort of exaggeration. We don't just learn how to hang up ceiling fans in your house, we also learn how to build nuclear power houses, hospitals, and giant factories that make all the things you and I enjoy every day.
@@JohnColombo RELY???
5 years of school and then 5 years of apprenticeship before you are an electrician??
No you didnt. Please post what country you are from and the requirements of an electricians apprenticeship program.
Ontario Canada
Electrician - Construction and Maintenance is 9000 hours (approximately five years) consisting of 8160 hours of on-the-job work experience and 840 hours of in-school training
USA with some variances between different states
Register as an electrician apprentice or trainee
Complete at least 720 hours of relevant classroom instruction through a state-approved school (can be part of an apprenticeship)
Acquire at least 8,000 hours of supervised on-the-job experience from a certified electrician (can be part of an apprenticeship)
Pass the state certification exam
YOU WERE SAYING???
People never realize the cost of running a business and liability costs.
@Quayd Korman to be clear. There is not 5 years of school and an apprenticeship. There is, in Canada, 840 hours of school WHILE you are an apprentice or 720 hours of school in the US. In the USA you are only required 8000 hours of apprenticeship. Canada 9000 hours. Texas is out there on it's own with 12000 hours.
There is not a requirement of 5 years of school. Suggesting to people that there, is lying to them. Is the USA you are REQUIRED to do 18 full time weeks worth of in classroom education to become an electrician. Those 18 weeks are spread out over 5 years of apprenticeship.
An electrician is just a trade like all the others. All the trades are required to do in classroom work and maintain their knowledge base throughout their careers.
If you don’t want to hire a licensed electrician, at least read up the importance of keeping your neutral and ground isolated from each other after your main panel.
This was the first major mistake I saw in his work. I kept waiting for him to bring it up as something NOT to do.
It’s an extra precaution. It’s really not a big deal. All ends up in the same place anyway.
@@StandAgainstTheGlobalists if you’ve seen the charred remains of a ground wire that tried to carry the entire load of a sub panel after it lost a neutral, you’d think it’s a big deal.
Wow! dude, hire an electrician. You know enough to be dangerous.
Little knowledge is a dangerous thing
“12-3, 12 being the size of the wire and 3 being the 3 wires” It’s 12-2 man 12-3 has the red power too.- 15 y/o electrician
😆😆😆, love this
I didn't know electricians could be 15 years old 🤣👌 I'm not taking advise from a 15 year electrician
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@@jasrenfro9856 ok lmao
@@jasrenfro9856 I’m a journeyman electrician and he’s not wrong the dude in the video is a major hack I would not take notes on his electrical skills he violates several codes throughout the video
@@jasrenfro9856 I laughed
Gotta love when the firefighter builds a fire hazard, then calls electricians arrogant....
It is a fairly standard practice, when the origin of a fire can't be exactly determined, to place the blame on "Faulty electrical wiring".
@@Urbicide yeeeeah.... that hasn't been true for years.
😂👍
They are, 20amps is just fine if the wire gauge is adequate. Standard home wiring can go up to 25 amps before a fire hazard is present. 15 amps is standard as most items in the home don't need much more than that and gives enough wiggle room for shitty builders who used poor wiring or old wiring. A new house can support 20amps all throughout just fine.
Most kitchen appliances that aren't 220 use 20 amps and most of the time if you convert an outlet on an old house to support a microwave you would just put in a 20 amp breaker and be fine. It's code in most areas as well.
stop fear mongering.
I would have to dale disagree with u and go with what the guy with the long passage said
How many disappointed electricians watched this?
too many.
Ill come down and fix it for 1500 easy.
I've reported him to the building department for not pulling a permit :-)
Watching this makes me feel like maybe all of his other videos are full of garbage that I don’t know about just because I’m not in that industry... maybe that’s why all the loggers are always freaking out!!!
@@edrader He's pretty much reported himself. I'm sure there are inspectors in his area that have seen his handy work.
Licensed Master Electrician here. Hope you never have someone learn from your video and then someone dies because you do not follow the code, which is LAW.
Ditto, Master Electrician and Service Technician (40 yrs) here as well. We could make a code seminar out of this video. Was painful to watch. He better hope no inspectors were watching.
You realize NEC is not law everywhere right? It's just a reference guide book until jurisdictions actually adopt it, which not all do.
We have a saying in
Chicago , " Amateurs teach amateurs how to be amateurs" one more for effect ,
If a job is hard give me a min., If it's imposible,
give me two".
I'm not an electrician nor am I a rocket surgeon. But shouldn't those metal boxes be bonded with the ground wire?
No. The panel should be grounded though.
Like I said I'm not an electrician, I probably would have bonded it with the ground wire anyway. But then again I'm the guy that grounded his propane water heater
Pretty sure the main is bonded and grounded any sub panel will not be bonded. All metal boxes should be grounded.
@@mdvener my water heater actually doesn't have electricity running to it. When I first got the place,, the water was hot in more ways than one. They had a water line running through the vertical knock outs in the breaker box. I re plumbed, and rewired the house. The house was something scary movies were made of.
if he would have grounded the boxes, the return through the neutral back to source is also returning through the bare ground and if he grounded the boxes, it is now live with return power isnt it ? LOL get a hold of that with sweaty hands and hang on for the ride !!
I’m a licensed electrician, and I’m not arrogant! We probably seem arrogant because people like you think you know enough to do electrical work yourself. If you would like, I could list each of your several NEC electrical code violations, and point out the short comings in your work in this video. Electricians spend as much time obtaining a journeyman’s license as a college student spends getting a degree, but people complain when they have to pay to have something done right..... thanks for your support 🙄...
Exactly! and thank you! I did a 6 year apprenticeship... 2 years residential, and 4 commercial and Industrial. I cringed watching this video, but even more at the arrogance cody showed in his blanket condemnation of most highly trained craftsman on any job! 42 years later and I was and am still learning! Again, Thank you! Rick
I'm not an electrician, but I would love to hear what is wrong with this setup? I think it is the same in my outbuilding that my dad built... Am I missing something?
@@carbonfusion Yes you are missing something, but as an electrician I'm not stupid enough to tell you how to do it and get sued when it goes wrong for you. If your so inclined several of the things he did wrong are listed in different comments.
Greetings from and English electrician. 3-4 year apprenticeship and the amount of people who think they know better because they have done it in their house and it's fine is incredible, with their "it hasn't burnt down" yet attitudes.
mr4x4s preach on brother
Reminds me of my Dad's favorite saying when confronted with something as janky as this: "What plumber wired this?"
@james scott lol what?
LOL, good comment man, i'll have to remember that one, 👍🇺🇸.
I’m definitely gonna use this one 😂
I say what HVAC ran this? Stick to your motor control and comm circuits.
🤣
Dude you didn't run THHN nor did you ground your boxes! This izs why they don't let General Contractors Superintendents touch Electrical.
Next video, he does brain surgery, those doctors are very very arrogant.
@Mario The box itself needs to be grounded, attached to the ground wire via a green bonding screw. Over time emt set screws loosen and can open the "grounded" path creating a dangerous situation.
The emt is grounding the box and if you put lock rings on the correct way the do not come loose.
@@alexdownard1948 Beg to differ. As temperature changes metal shrinks and contacts making the set screws lose over the years. A separate grounding wire is the best way to go.
Ok bud
Cody, I love your videos but you should leave electrical work to an electrician. There are quite a few mistakes in your work here
What were the mistakes, for this non electrician?
How about offering some pointers instead of pointing out the mistakes and making the you should hire an electrician comment.
I'm not here to teach people how to do my job, nor am I the one putting a step by step video up of how to do something (incorrectly). Most of the mistakes I noticed were techniques he probably saw done when he was in the trades but are no longer up to code and for good reason. If you are looking for a how to video look for one made by an electrician. I've come to expect a little bit more than this from Cody, but if you really want a pointer Phill, hire an electrician.
Electrical is not a hobby hire a professional
I'm not arrogant. And I make a mess while working so I can focus solely on what I'm doing. I always clean up afterwards and during if possible.
worked for a guy whose motto was "we clean up the jobsite once per phase. either before we start or after we finish."
All the electricians I ever worked with were very nice and helpful. They had no problem sharing information or discussing how electricity works or the proper work to wire.
Seems nice he can post a video and 50 electricians tell him every code violation before the inspector shows up :) Instead of paying for electrical work I should just post some youtube videos and get all the advice for free!
well if your gonna post an instructional video you should know what you are talking about first
If you think he actually pulled a permit for this job youre crazy. He mentions a permit but that final product would fail inspection for at least 6 different reasons.
@@Steven0sborne i wouldn't assume that. I pulled permits for a studs-up kitchen remodel, redid all the wiring. The inspector came for electrical sign off, wiggled one box, and said "You wired this yourself? And you are going to live here?" I agreed, and he said "OK" and signed off. This was in CA. Permits are mainly for increasing your tax basis on property, and generating revenue for the city so far as I could tell.
That is a form of Cunningham's law.
And this is why I build in a permit free zone bow I know there are laws ypur supposed to follow but they dont actualy have anyone on the books to inforce them
Thank you for creating fire hazards and leading others to do the same Mr. Know-it-all. Our code book is written by the National Fire Protection Agency for a reason. Not one of your better videos here.
Can you point out the fire hazards?
@@walnutcove8583he didnt seperate the grounds from the neutral in the sub fed panel
@@stew-03 not a fire hazard. Potential shock hazard, but not fire hazard.
As an electrician having an "attitude" can help save your life. Other people are always telling you what to do.I usually tune them out so I don't make a serious mistake.
You are an arrogant electrician. Listening to people who criticize your work may be what saves your life.
Customer - do you need to shut off our power today to wire that?
Electrician - yup, or I die
RUclips commenters - ARROGANT EleCtRiCiaNS
knurlgnar24 when people criticize a trade they know nothing about and try to tell you how to do your job which you go to school for and practice over thousands of hours it’s better not to listen because they know not what they are talking about electricity isn’t as simple and if you don’t have a general understanding of it it’s better to let someone who does and has the training for it do the job because it will be done professionally ,right, and safe
@@martinmeza6291 Absolutely incorrect. Dogma and political protection is a powerful combination in the trades that causes overconfidence among those ordained by the authorities to practice their craft without competition. I experience this in my line of work as well. People go to school for religious studies for thousands of hours too and think they are next to God, but yet they often know little of merit on the subject next to laypeople. If a studied person doesn't respect the perspectives of laypeople around them they have no business practicing their craft and do great harm to those in the craft who are the true masters of said craft.
Some may people confuse my insistence on quality and safe work with arrogance.
However having witnessed 2 electrocutions first hand in my 24 years in the profession, and coming in behind people who didn't have enough knowledge to understand what they were doing, I occasionally get testy. I do insist my
guys keep a clean and orderly work area, but I've seen plenty who don't.
Electricity can be very dangerous and it's really quite sobering to watch the life being pulled out of somebody by an invisible energy force.
Did I mention it also hurts like hell the entire time it's killing you?
Amen. I'm testy right now!! Downright salty and sandy at the same time.
4 years in shool, 10 year as working full time electrician, last year with my own firm.
this man is very dangerous, to himself and to others, all i have to say
Just came across this video, I'm from the UK and our code of practice is to sleeve the cpc (circuit protective conductor) and to earth the back box is a must. We also test our work to verify compliance with regulation allowances. If you are going to post your work online for everyone to see and comment, make sure it's correct. I know I'm from a different country but by the looks of the other comments, I'm not alone on this one.
See even in the UK you are way off base. PLEASE STOP MAKING ELECTRICAL VIDEOS!!! I'm terrified to think your kids might be in the area of this fire and safety hazard.
My local inspector will not approve romex run in conduit. We have to use individual wires. Inspector said romex gets too hot in conduit.
It does indeed
Yes it does!
That's why he's not an electrician
Romex in conduit is only allowed to protect wire from elements and physical damage up to a max of 10 ft per nec 2017
@@xhacks519 what is your code reference that limits this to 10 feet?
I'm an electrician in Australia and the unlicensed work worries me so much. The unearthed metal conduit is a big no no.
It seems like it has been a long time since you have been around electricians. Back in the 90's when I broke in a lot of Electrical contractors wouldn't clean up their mess because the GC didn't want to pay them too. They wanted to cut bids down so they would take out clean up with the agreement that the GC would. I always cleaned up after myself or made it as easy as I could on the one that followed me. It's just the right thing to do. Now back to your work. You probably won't kill anyone with it. Well we all hope not anyway. But you are definitely going to make the next guy behind you shake his head and ask WTF? Pretty crappy for a guy talking smack about the trade he is trying to replace. Keep the great moments in building science coming LOL.
The next guy im sure will be pretty pissed off seeing a hot neutral wire and no grounding.
Imagine calling other people arrogant while literally risking your life butchering their trade skills because you refuse to let someone else do the job.
Oh come on, where exactly is the danger? Is this code? No but is it actually likely to cause issues? Also no
Sam Hall code exists for a reason
The coupling with the 6 inch piece, that hurt my eyes 😐
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that
Then don’t watch....... wtf is the problem?? He’s obviously not a damn electrician and hell I don’t blame him
@@johnsalcido5436 youre right hes not an electrician. Hes a moron with no clue how the trade works
My journey men told me one day to get a foot long piece of pipe and not what my girl means😂😂it didn’t make sense but was funny but now it makes sense
@@owenharmon2919 sloppy work
Wow, you're calling electricians arrogant? Maybe you should look in the mirror once.
I’m not arrogant I just know a lot. The wire you had was 12/2 12 being the size of wire and 2 being the number of current carrying conductors the bare/grounds not counted
Got it, my bad,
@@cheeseburger9232 That's what I thought too, but would like to know if anyone can confirm since I am adding some conduit to my garage.
Could have placed some insulation behind the wall. If you are going to fix it might as well fix it well.
No you are not supposed to put romex in conduit.
@@cheeseburger9232 normally you dont if you run nomex just staple it to the wall. Had a few years running wire just trying to figure out why he didn't ground out to the box?
So much for grounding 😂. Love the 12/3 you used 😂😂 that panel looked the same from when you first got to it
Don’t do what this guy did.
Idea is there but do not use this guys video as a tutorial, its an unsafe install
- Licensed Electrician
And we always clean up after ourselves
We’re not plumbers 😂😜
im learning for journeyman electrician in serbia and ive never seen daisy chained so many plugins.. even metal casings for EVERYTHING... also do you folks not use RCD's for gnd/neutral control? because he obviously had connected gnd to neutral.. and that utility butchering through the
insulation of cables... omg.
Is it normal to connect neutral to ground in America?
In Europe we have a separate ground rail for ground.
It's connected to a metal rod embedded in the actual ground/earth/soil.
Neutral often floats around >10 volts instead of being dead zero.
Funny thing is, European connectors are symmetrical, meaning the neutral and phase can be swapped around by re-plugging, sometimes it causes phase and noise issues in older tube electronics.
Da Qoraxxx ground and neutrals are bonded in the main service disconnect, any sub panels or disconnects after that they must be separate. This is a pretty big violation in this video
@@spudatbattleaxe Why are those connected in the main panel?
@@spudatbattleaxe In serbia there is illegal practice applied in old housings called nulling - connecting neutral to gnd because old housings do not have propper gnd wires. and it prevents the use of rcd in main fuse panel... sad but true
Love your lifestyle, BUT a good example of why we have Electricians.
Explain please. What is wrong with the work? Genuinely curious here ....
hahaha i love this comment XD
@@mattjames8683 wrong type of cable should be t90 or other applicable types, not sure what you are using the plugs for but 20amp circuits for plugs shouldn't have 6 outlets, grounds should be bonded to the boxes, conduit has no metal straps on them, neutral and ground buss's in the sub panel should be isolated until the main distribution panel. (metallic pipes often don't require running grounds through them they act as a ground themselves)
@@justinturnsvirtual And that is why your hire an electrician! Ha ha ha thanks for the info!
@@mattjames8683 hahah no worries knowledge is power ;)
This video made my head hurt and the fact that you were a superintendent screams nepotism because you surely aren’t electrically inclined how could you run an entire job not knowing if they did their job right
I’ve seen tradesmen of every type not clean up .
Personally I do because my work reflects on me as a private contractor .
As far as arrogance , that is something that is often times confused with a non willingness to compromise .
I personally take your safety very seriously .
When I get “ can we just “ or “ can you do this to just get me by “. That answer is most often an unwavering no.
You don't take safety seriously, you take your pride seriously. Stop being so arrogant. Listening to criticism can only make you wiser as no one is right all of the time.
knurlgnar24 settle down .
you were a superintendent? lol, that's a scary thought...
Parking lot superintendent...
Yup. Another of those "electricians don't need to know anything. Anyone can do electrical work" videos.
Let me see you bend box offsets in that conduit.
I've worked for the local school district as an electrician for 15 years, even the licensed guys screw up. They cost a lot, even the bad ones for a reason. With that being said, it's possible Wranglestar might have had potential to be an apprentice candidate......not now!!! 30+ years in the trade and not "arrogant" .....confident. Keeping people and property is serious business. There is an NEC for a reason..... Guys and videos like this!
@@johnfrantz1086 but what he’s saying is your pipe coming out of the box is straight there is o offset. When you actually look at your pipe work it’s trash. It’s nice for pulling cause all straights 😂but looks terrible
didn’t even strap the emt to the wall lmaoo
Who else noticed the cable jacket and wire insulation on the floor behind Cody at the end. Shame shame 😂
Haha, it's rubbing off on me,
🤣🤣 great observation skills
I was thinking the same. The irony of listening to the story and seeing that. Spec in the eye and all that though.
@@wranglerstar you are a pro now!
:)
I'm calling his homestead right now and telling him that if he expects his like & subscribe any time soon, he'd better send someone to clean up that mess!
Please separate your ground and neutrals! only bond Neutral at the transformer (which will be done by your POCO). You may have problems with breakers not tripping with your subpanel set up like that. and that could be a very bad time!
Many of us are arrogant, but its usually the really arrogant ones who don't actually know anything. The ones of us that do are open to learning and owning up to our mistakes. and we clean up after ourselves as well. we go to school (either college, or a recognized apprenticeship) for many years to become a Journeyman. We take pride in our work. You are an intelligent man, and I have confidence that you would seek help if you needed it. This is a simple job, and with a little guidence (ground and neutral not bonded!) you can handle it. Most people can't. Even some electricians can't, such as with a buddy of mine and his uncle. My buddy buys a house, and it has an old fuse box and no ground in it. His uncle says "we can just run a ground wire from the plug and tie it to the neutral!" and I had to step in and tell my buddy to NOT bootleg the ground. Don't have to run all new wire, but to be compliant with code he'll need GFCI receptacles with the proper labelling to let people know there is no equipment ground.
but please, fix that neutral/ground problem! and please ground your boxes, and wrap a little tape around your receptacles to guard against shorts. :)
Bonding is done at the first disconnect which is usually your main panel but codes in many states now require a a disconnect before your main panel so bonding is done there now.
If it weren’t for Beer, Electricians would rule the World...
Dude I don’t think so..... Sure electricians have become basically the more important trade to be in but it’s definitely not the most important industry or workforce type.
I cringe whenever I see receptacles daisy chained that way.
agreed. I would not daisy chain outlets like this.
Daisy chaining will work as far as delivering power but its not something i would do.
Get some wire nuts use the right pig tail connections.
I'm curious as to why? Thanks
@@jellybean7253 Between the two screws on the side of the receptacle is a little stamped metal link. It is so you can separate the two outlets in case you wanted to switch one side with a lightswitch and the other stay hot. The link is stamped and bent so you can easily remove it. When you chain receptacles like Cody did that little metal link is now a "Current carrying conductor". Every bit of current for the downstream receptacle will now flow through those links. They are not rated as a "CCC" so it is against code to daisy chain like that. It could overheat due to high current flowing through it. If the neutral side link were to break it could create a situation where the black and white wires on all the downstream outlets would be Hot. That could lead to plugging in a tool and it's case being energized or other issues. The "what could happen by daisy chaining" is a rabbit hole that doesn't end well. The proper way to install a receptacle is a 6" black, white and grounding pigtail from each outlet bonded in the box to the incoming wire.
@@davidp8563 It will happen with any voltage. When the neutral wire is broken and there is a load plugged in, all the neutrals that are disconnected from the panel will have voltage on them.
An exercise you can do to see it in action is take a 12v automobile light bulb with 2 leads. Only connect the positive lead to the car battery and test the voltage between the negative lead and the battery post. 12v!
@@offroadtek00 interesting I did wonder the same thing (I'm a UK electrician) why you wouldn't link the 2 sockets together that way it confused me a bit questioning how you would get power to the other sockets with a 2 core cable. Also could you not just uprate the links so they would be able to carry higher current provided the neutral doesn't break with a bigger/higher rated link the risk of overhearing is mitigated
Unfknblvbl!! This guy is a danger to himself AND others!! DO NOT do what this guy says..... Superintendent of what??! Christ! I'd hate to see his jobs.........
Explain exactly what you expect to go wrong.
@Joe Crow Yes, we do, however not all things that exist outside of that book, which varies by local, is fire and danger and death itself.
Believe me, I deal with residential and commercial code daily. A lot of stuff doesn't meet code and nobody ever notices or cares. The rules are very general and sometimes they don't work or don't matter in certain contexts.
It's not a black and white affair
"Superintendent." Aren't they the arrogant ones? Think they know how to do other people's jobs just because they think by watching so many professionals work that they can do it themselves?
We aren't arrogant. We are the gentleman craft. We have more at stake than nearly every other craft on the job, and most of us (union Craftsmen) are trained to do perfect work with fewer tools. Clean-up is a laborer's job. All that said, we only seem arrogant to those who wish they were electricians and won't make the jump. Those who can, do and those who can't, criticize. Local union 369, Louisville, KY
there's one word for this guy (HACK)
Classic line: “You get what you pay for.” Enough said. From a 3rd year apprentice...Amen.
Only some times...
Quality can be seen in the purchase of oats. If you want nice clean fresh outs you must pay a fair price. If you can be content with oats that have already been through the horse you can pay slightly less.
with those type of receptacles you can just leave the wire straight and put in not around the screw because the screw actually screws a plate in on the inside to hold the wires. you dont want to do that with are the ones that just use a spring to hold the wire in. Also that's 12/2 wire. don't count the ground.
The inner OCD electrician in me is going crazy lol, but hey it works.
I know the cringe is real
Why? It looked good to me...
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Offsets were not put into the conduits where it enters the boxes, the conduit should be touching the wall. None of the conduit is supported to the wall with conduit straps. The screws on the conduit connectors are facing the wrong direction. He should have used a wire-nut instead of that crimp, generally solid wire can’t be crimped. But like the other guy said it works, and it’s a lot better than some of the other journeyman’s work I’ve seen😂
Bare ground in the EMT is driving me nuts. I would him had rather left the sheath on.
Also no ground screws...
Everyone that isn't an electrician thinks electrical is easy...That is why we charge so much to fix your messes. Kings of the trades.
A $1,000 may seem like a lot to pay a qualified electrician, but a burnt down building is a few dollars more.
I am sure he pulling down at least $150K from RUclips.
If you charge a thousand to do what he did then you are a rip off. His DYI project is sufficient enough. It's not rocket science.
Could not agree more
@@stophate2023 Im a rip off.
Well, at least this work in the video cost like $200 to so be expensive if you charge $1000 for this job well you're a thief it's simply.
Not an electrician, but I would say in many cases the answer is, “Don’t confuse a respect for the deadliness of electricity for arrogance.”
Electricity is no joke. Once you see a badly shocked/burned person (I have), or someone get electrocuted, you’d never let politeness get in the way of what you know to be true.
amen. seen to many mistakes cause injury
He installed Neutrals and grounds together at the sub panel and that’s the biggest code violation here
Can't believe you calling anyone arrogant,you are the definition of Mr Know-it-all .
Good thing you're a firefighter. You'll surely be needing them for that building soon. Hope you didn't do any electrical work in your house 😳😳 -arrogant electrician
9:12. Electricity is simple…when you don’t know what the hell you’re doing
As an English electrician I’d say what a bloody mess that was ,liked the comment about not needing many tools ,not a test meter in sight 😱 that’s why an electrician charges what he does as thousands of pounds worth of training and tools are needed to carry out the job expertly and safely
Quite a few violations in this video. No grounding of the metal boxes or conduit. The ground screw was present and no bond bushing was installed in the panel. No strapping on the piping. The grounds and neutrals are not separated inside the sub panel. You didnt use the clamps on the outlets and instead wrapped the conductors over top the clamps. No main breaker in the sub panel where typically a main cut off should be present at any sub panel not within sight of the main panel. No GFI protection on these outlets is also a violation. Also not best practice to run Non metallic cable inside metallic emt conduit. You should've used THHN conductors. I normally wouldn't pick apart your videos until you called electricians arrogant and suggest we over charge. That extra cost goes to education and a guarantee that the work will be done safe and to local code. That was not done here and I suggest you research before potentially showing millions how to do illegal electrical work.
I won't get you started on the fact he used jumpers and didn't tape around the plugs in a metal box i also didn t see no grounding for cable in the box.
Steven Osborne perfectly stated! I truly like Cody’s videos, and he did mention this is probably not a good video to learn from, but I saw exactly the same thing! Nice reply.
You and I know all this but did you have to tell this nail pounder exactly why his install is illegal and not to code, and how to do our work?
We spend years getting educated on ever changing code and proper installs at a high cost of education and you give it all away to every nail pounder for free.
@@ibenripped Thats true lol!
All my thoughts exactly
I think his electric work videos are my favorite. The comments section is the best on them.
when you pull a permit a inspector check your work to make sure your to code. You would have failed
When you're trying to correct someones work make sure you use the correct grammar. You have failed.
Lol you are some triggered electricians. He’s obviously not a damn professional or master electrician. It’s a simple home diy and you guys get triggered. Who tf cares if he didn’t do it perfect as long as it works. Gesh, remind me never to contract you picky bastards
@@johnsalcido5436 there's a Code for a reason and pulling permits for a reason. When your house burns down because of your own faulty wiring job, your insurance is going to tell you to kick rocks because you didn't have a permit pulled and didn't have a licensed electrician do the work. Much cheaper to rebuild a house than to hire a licensed and bonded professional.
@@alexpopescu7312 😂😂stfu man, don’t you gotta go change light bulbs or something
John Salcido right?? never seen so many asshurt mofos in my life!
I retired from commercial electrical work 13 years ago. Cody, do yourself a favor, spend some money and buy a NEC code book and follow it. I do not agree with some of the codes in there but for the most part, they are sound and having a copy and reading might save a life some day, or at least a ton of money. You do neat work, but Romex in conduit is a no-no, Bond all metal boxes to ground and keep your grounds and neutral wires separate once you leave your main service.
I have wondered about running the Romex in the conduit. I simply thought he was wasting his money.
I couldn't stop staring at that coupling so close to the box. I would've been chewed out for that.
Its actually called a 12/2. You dont count the ground wire because it is not a current carrying conductor.
Atleast it is designed not to unless there's a problem. :P
actually the count is referencing insulated conductors ;)
were not arrogant just well trained 😁 that is a twin breaker not a double pole, twins come off the same leg in the panel, double poles use both legs and give you 240
Lot of us enjoy your videos, some commenting on the facts pertaining to the Electrical Lessons. Just because it works does not mean it is correct, which is something to be considered. One fact mentioned here is "you get what you pay for." Lastly, as an electrician in NYC, I see numerous job sites with Qualified Electricians but unqualified on cleaning up their mess. Ultimately it all comes down to Safety and taking Pride on the Quality of work.
Man Cody, you opened up a can of worms with this video😂😂
Well I liked the video.
At 0:37 is a deadly practice, left hand on panel/ground, right hand pointing into panel! You should never work on an open panel with 2 hands!!
I've seen to many people get rapped by leaning an arm or hand onto panel!
Use the one hand in pocket rule.
Be safe✌🏻
Why are electricians arrogant? We’re not, we have to tolerate idiots that think they know what they are doing then when they mess up their stuff they we, electricians, have to fix it.
When you cant bend pipe so you just put the boxes below the panel and just say forget supporting anything
Now bending pipe is a sign of a good electrician? You are insatiable. LoL
Found the guy who is ok with shitty work
@@stophate2023 well yeah as an electrician if you will work whit EMT you have to bend something in most of the times
As an electrician I almost had a stroke while watching this lol
Me as well..I subscribed then unsubscribe as soon as he started stereotyping.
I just realized the wasn’t the greatest once he said 12/2 was 12/3. THE GROUND DOESNT COUNT
You had a stroke from arrogance.
@@markcoleman8349 12/3 has four wires in it... basic, right?
RepublicOfCatyes 12/3 has 3 current carrying wires. A hot a neutral and a traveler. The ground is a wire and is in there but it isn’t included in the name associated with the cable. This man just called 12/2 12/3 which just gave me a brain aneurism
As an electrician there is a list of things I could comment on that are inncorrect. However, I will only say one, 12/3 is not what you were working with.
Electricians make the world go around.....well at least my world anyway 😉
Josh, you’ve shown us all how it’s done! 👍
Josh!!!! I love your show. We are avid watchers of all your videos. Lot's of respect from a fellow electrician in canada
Cody....I didn't see you ground the boxes as well.....definitely a must for safety.....and code.
As long as he connects with metal pipe and fitting to a grounded panel he has each box grounded
@@rocketman8068 that's not code and there is no grounded panel present
@@rocketman8068 That definitely is not code here in Canada. Ground wire to ground screw at the back of the box to ground screw on the plug.
Code says if it is a metal box it has to to be grounded inside the box as well I was noticing the same thing LOL but you have to recognize about half of his channel content is entertainment and the other half is informational
@@bebo5558 You may think that but its still not code, if inspected it would not pass. I am not a licensed electrician but both my father and uncle are, I have installed hundreds of plugs and boxes for them back in the 80's and 90's and the way that I was taught was to run a ground to the box and from the box to the plug, if there are multiple ground wires they need to be tied together with a special ground wire nut (we use the greene marretes) with a hole in the end for one lead to pass through.
Just because something works does not mean it is the right way to do it.
ELECTRICAL CODE BOOK 101:
I have been in the electrical industry since 1978. From taking coffee orders as an apprentice to laying out decks on midtown Manhattan hi-rises. I take offense to being classified as "arrogant" by anyone that has mastered nothing. I have always policed my work area as do most tradesman. I would respectfully request you pull down this video outlining the performance of an electrical installation without prefacing this video first with credentials, licensing and a waiver for safety. You may be a superintendent of a job-site........but it ends there. If you were just out to impress the youtube audience with your knowledge on an electrical install....you blew it. Stick with time sheets wranglestar.
Which shops have you been with in the 5 boroughs?
lmao that boomer @seditiouslibel is the literal definition of arrogant XD
You have 12-2 wire, 2 conductors and a ground
Another observation
I was taught when installing a device to connect ground-neutral-power
When disconnecting you the power-neutral-ground. But hey I’m just a dumb electrician who doesn’t clean up after himself 😭
You are correct grasshopper, but that is specific to working with power on. With power off, how could it matter? Keep training and get your masters license!
Always ground first in case the super or some other trade starts flicking breakers on because the microwave/saw/computer doesn't have power. At least you have a ground available to take the current away
12/3 would be size 12 wire and 3 current carrying conductors so there would be red white and black along with the ground, 12/2 is the cable ur using rn
Posting electrical, plumbing, or welding is a sure-fire way to boost interaction in your videos.
Is it too late to bring up the GFCI requirement in garages?
"Yes, all 125-volt, single phase, 15- or 20-amp receptacles in a garage must be GFCI-protected, with only one esoteric exclusion that we will cover later. But it wasn’t always this way. Up until the 2008 edition of the NEC (National Electrical Code), there were two exceptions allowed for the GFCI requirement at garage receptacles:
1) Receptacles that were not readily accessible, such as a ceiling receptacle for a garage door opener.
2) A single receptacle that served one appliance or a duplex receptacle serving two appliances, which was on a dedicated circuit and “located within a dedicated space for each appliance that, in normal use, is not easily moved.” Typical examples were a water softener, sprinkler control panel, washing machine, freezer, or refrigerator."
Link: www.howtolookatahouse.com/Blog/Entries/2018/6/are-all-garage-electric-receptacles-required-to-be-gfci-protected.html
Yeah, but code wants GFCI everywhere and where its not GFCI then lightning suppressed or w/e they call it. Seems to me Square D is wanting to sell more $35 breakers vs $6 breakers. I agree GFCI has its place and they work great but it doesn't mean they should be everywhere.
@@willagresham2978 Don't have to use breaker...Could just put in a single GFCI receptacle and use the downstream load option which will protect the other outlets
4cpus4me most of the GFCI receptacles are rated for either 15 or 20 amps based on the sense coil. If you use the multiple load option, you run the risk of overloading them, and with only 2 120volt circuit and one 240 volt circuit here, it makes more sense to use an GFCI and Arc arrester breaker combination.
It's not a garage. It is an out building/ shop different codes for them.
I am not a licensed electrician but I follow the code as a guideline not as the law
I only use gfci on outdoor outlets or in wet locations such as a kitchen or bathroom
I’m a 15 year Electrician, that romex inside conduit and making up the plugs with the hot first is some bulll 🗣💡
As an electrician, this was painful to watch. Lol. Yeah, 12/2 not 12/3. Were the boxes grounded?
Ah come on Craig, For a homeowner it wasn't that bad,
@@wranglerstar I know, I'm just messing with you. Lol. Sorry, I was one of those electricians that never cleaned up. 😁 As a commercial electrician I always pigtailed receptacles instead of jumping.
Oi... Where's the story about the sceptic tank you promised! ;)
Ya that would be fun to hear👍
Skeptical?? or sceptical??
Just thought I would let you kno if you didn't already they make adapters now where you can use Millwaukee battery's with Dewalt in Makita in vice versa so now we can be free from being loyal to one power tool company we can interchange there batteries in if you want to buy a bare tool you can interchange batteries.
Id recommend putting some good electrical tape around those plugs over the screws. That way if you ever have to open it up and pull em out you dont accidentally grab onto them and get a nice buzz. Just a quick thing to do to prevent you or other people from getting shocked. (ask me how I know haha)
Good idea,
@@wranglerstar Of course with the power off its not an issue either, but some people dont even know what a breaker panel is lol.
Are we being trolled? That bonded neutral to the grounds in a sub is a no no. I can take everything else as a joke, but for Christ sake don't do that one.
True Story - A man in Florida did the wiring to his outdoor hot tub and saved a few bucks. When he stepped inside the water to enjoy his work he died instantly. Investigation was done and found that he had a open circuit with no proper grounding. Water became an invisible killer. Be careful. Electricians have alot of responsibility and burden, it's not arrogance or greed.
Ugh! Maybe Mrs W really does need to see this video (and read all the comments)! Best to have someone double check your work. "An ounce of prevention". BTW, arrogance could be as simple as thinking that you know everything and are just too cheap and too stubborn to hire a professional when needed.
“To do it right” yeah no, most of the work in this video was done wrong. Change the title of this video.
I always had the suspicion he was stupid. Now I'm sure
About 17 years ago we added onto our house. We hired the foundation, framing and roofing out and I did the rest - wiring, plumbing, sheetrock, etc. I pulled a building, plumbing and electrical permit from the city. Then I bought Black and Deckers plumbing and electrical books and followed them. Yeah, laugh your asses off Sparky... The electrical inspector came out and acted like an electrician - pretty arrogant and condescending. I followed him around and he changed his tone. Said he hadn't seen such work by a homeowner. I thanked him and told him that I used the B&D book. He replied that he wished the electricians in the area would buy a copy. He told me to go ahead and cover the walls. When it came time for the final, he checked a few outlets with a circuit tester and signed off on the permit. The plumbing permit and inspections whent the same way. While I would never attempt industrial or commercial jobs, I felt competent to DIY.
Dear Ed, “those who can’t do, inspect”. Chances are pretty high you were told you did a great job by a nincompoop! Do you still have you calc sheets, you know the ones you should have prepared before adding to an existing electrical system?
Exactly, how’d you use the B&D book when adding onto your existing electrical system didnt you need to reference the codebook at anytime? And, theres a reason why we have new codebooks every 3 years. Plus that was 17 years ago lol
If the Electrical Inspector knew what he was doing, you are then one in 10 million. The other 9.999 million are still dangerous hacks.
Electricians get it from both ends. Ether the customer thinks your arrogant or they don't want to pay someone electrical rates for sweeping the floor. If the job is bid the floor sweeping should be included. If it's time and material ask the customer if they want to save a little by doing that themselves. Most often mom and pop will gladly sweep and of coarse it's their choice.
That's just justification for laziness. No trade is allowed to leave the project a train wreck.
Oof, even as a diy guy I noticed some mistakes and nomenclature errors. I know this is a small project, but before I wired my unfinished basement, I had the gumption to read an up to date Black and Decker home wiring book. I know it's probably not perfect, but I felt it was well enough to be safe. It passed inspection easily enough anyhow. I only missed a couple nail plates.
Ah, the old romex in conduit scenario that has melted down many discussion groups previously... might have to make some popcorn once the comments start rolling in.
What are you supposed to put in conduit?
@@jbichl Individual wires (THHN, usually)
code literally says you can put romex in conduit. 334.15b.
@@pre10141982 True, but people need to be aware of the fill calculations being much more restrictive in this case (unless its
@@NickFrom1228 he didn't have any bends and very short runs, there's no need for fill calculations.