After not playing for many years , I am starting again, and I was soooooo lost about what to get and watched so many videos.. Yours was by FAAAAAAR the best.. simple, to the point, logical and informative... THANK you soooo much
Great tutorial! When I started playing, i made the mistake of buying a premade 7ply paddle but luckily was good enough to keep up with it. After a while of playing I decided to get an upgrade so I started watching a couple youtube videos on buying a racket, I realized my mistake and went ahead and bought a 5ply YSE with 729 Friendship Battle 2 FH and Xiom Vega Europe BH. This allowed me to learn techniques better. Now Im currently looking for a new setup! I loved my 7ply so I'm looking at going with the DHS Power G7 with Nittaku Fastarc G-1 FH and Yasaka Rakza 7 BH!
Glad you enjoyed it! I hear good things about the G7 being a great value for the money. Those rubbers you mentioned are both high quality and will serve you well. Just remember as you change your equipment, the adjustment can effect your playing for up to 3 months. Stick with it and unleash the power!
Hi Jin! Thank you for this video. It is easily the most informative one on the topic I’ve found. Most of the others use “slow and fast” as characteristics, and of course I was biased towards fast. The technical explanations help me a lot. Without this I don’t think I would have decided to upgrade to custom racket. Ok. I currently play with a cheap pre made racket, and am reasonably happy with improvements over the last 6 months. My style is close to the table, aggressive forehand, fast backhand blocks and loops. I tried a Donic premade Carbon racket and found that I had very little control to put serves back with spin. The sound of hollow tocks tocks nearly drove me mad. I’m looking to improve on my backhand speed and spin. Especially to counter a specific style of player that chops deep on my backhand. Would also like a little more speed on my forehand smashes but without compromising control. I’ve been winning most points on the forehand shot and it would be depressing to go backwards on that. Additionally I would like more spin in my forehand serves. Thanks again!
Love to hear about your journey! Carbon rackets are FAST so I always recommend a 5-ply all wood blade for beginners. Try to find one that is around 84-88 grams and that should provide you enough weight to play quick while still maintaining control. If you are looking for more spin on your forehand serves then you need a rubber that can grip. As for attaining more speed and spin, you have to look inward at your technique. A professional can inject spin with the slowest professional grade equipment. Even budget grade pro equipment will show a significant increase in speed, spin, and feeling compared to a pre-made racket
I have always bought whatever blade or rubbers I fancied and then just learned to play with them. I believe if you are a reasonably competent player you can adapt your style to any kind of set-up
Your video is very helpful. I'm upgrading from premade (friendship) racket. I want to build My own and also transition from all-rounder to attacker. I'm eyeing to these blades (easily available in my area). - Sanwei C6 Carbon - Sanwei Hinoki Carbon - Sanwei LD Carbon I'm kind of confused on the thickness and softness-hardness of the sponge. Any rubber suggestions for fh/bh to pair with these blades? Cheers!
Hello! What do you like about your friendship racket? What don't you like about it? This can help us figure out what will be the best equipment for you. The sponge thickness will affect the play like this: thicker sponge makes more bounce because the ball sinks deeper into it and likewise rebounds harder as that rubber pushes the ball off. It also cups around the point of contact making more grip and therfore more spin. Thinner rubber is easier to control because there is less bounce, but doesn't spin as much on harder hits because the ball doesn't sink in as much. I recommend 2.0mm up to max for attackers to get the most speed and spin. Control players can use 1.7mm and 1.8mm. I personally use an inner carbon blade lending good speed on power shots and control on touch play. I don't like hinoki blades, because they feel like playing with an i flated plastic bottle. I do like the crispy feeling of koto and Limba outer layers
Hello! Thank you for this guide. What're your thoughts on a Yasaka Sweden Xtra with a Yasaka Razka 7 1.8mm BH and a Yasaka Rigan 2.0mm FH? I am an all around player that loves to play tons of spin especially on serves - my specialty is my BH serve. Open to other set up recommendations as well. Thank you so much.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was trying to create more spin on my backhand.. If I went with Razka 7 on both, should I do 1.8m or 2.0mm? Also straight or flared handle? So grateful for your direction. - Trey
Hi I am new to your page and find your clips very helpful. Thank you for all of your explanations. I appreciate you haven't mentioned any names so as to not advertise and keep this educational. But Can you recommend what's the best blade and rubber and where to purchase it for beginners? Thank you.
I always recommend Yasaka Mark V 2mm on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Any 5 ply all wood blade will do with speed in the offensive minus to the allround level
Great video! You nicely simplified all the complexity associated with getting a custom paddle. I wish I'd seen this four months ago when I returned to table tennis after a long hiatus. I'm an intermediate player and wanted to get your thoughts on Nittaku G-1 2.0 as a forehand (and possibly backhand) rubber. It's the perennially best selling rubber in Asia (and also #1 on tabletennis11, the website you recommended). Also, hope you post new videos soon!
I am glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for watching. I actually used the Nittacku G-1 2.0 on both sides of my current setup! They are fast but for an intermediate player, they are manageable. You have great taste! ;)
My recommendation rubber/blade for European style play Yasaka Sweden Extra Yasaka Rigan for both sides. Really great for beginners and can carry you into intermediate levels no problem, a bit slow for higher competitions but will still do emotional damage to loopers .
bro, you are so good!!!! Your explanation is very good, I think im getting the chineese one since it can produce a crazy amount of spin and not very fast which is controllable, thank you so much for the explanation. Im thinking to get a Forfar rubber but im not sure if it as good since they didn't really talked which type of rubber it is. We would like to see a review about that rubber please ;)
Thanks Mustafa! I personally go the Chinese route myself. The style is just so unbelievably fun to watch. I can’t buy the forfar rubber. From what I am told they will stink up an entire house lol
Hi, nice review and nice tip. I am intermediate player and I play lot of fh with Butterfly Rozena tenser rubber. What chinese rubber do you recomend foe forehand? Pls put name of brand and model.
Hi Harry, they are all similar in speed and control. I have a bias for Xiom so naturally I would pick the Aria Lite. Stiga blades tend to have this hollow feeling. I like my blades to have a crisp feeling when I hit the ball.
What an excellent explanation, thank you so much. Subscribed. I am coming back to TT after 45 y. hiatus. Don't know anything about modern bats and rubber tbh, don't even remember what bat did I play with when in the Uni. Bought a Nittaku Violin with 2 mm Fastarc G-1 rubber on both sides ( Won't lie, half price offer was a factor :). Impressions after the first 2 hour session: a bit faster than expected (the rubber?). But the feel is interesting with flex, but control is here, feels and sounds like a quality paddle. Feedback is so strong, I never experienced it before. Still overhitting at times. The blade looks like a keeper, the rubber - I have no idea. Any thought on this blade/rubber combo for and old geezer coming back to TT after half a century in the wild and feeling like a beginner, trying to get my basics right again despite lots of inconsistency? I heavily rely on spin in my game.
Thanks for watching LagunaIX! I always recommend a 5 ply all wood blade with a speed rating of all round to all round plus. For the backhand rubber there is a great entry level tensor rubber made by Xiom called the Xiom Vega Intro that has a high level of control. As for the forehand, what style do you want to emulate, Chinese or Euro?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis prefer Chinese style... The rubber should I choose max hardness or soft for the forehand? If European style which rubber is good?.. Thanks for replying me.
@@ricky6770 If you choose Chinese style I would go with DHS H3 and use the medium hardness to begin with. If European style I would recommend non-tensor rubbers from Stiga.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Got it. Thanks... Looking forward to more of your video. Since i don't a coach to teach me about table tennis... Watching online tutorials is my only coach. ❤️
One of the finest video! Needed your recommendation for blade thinking of using Mark V on both sides. Intermediate player with shakehand grip(European style).
Not played for many years now but always remember how novices made the error of buying too powerful a rubber. I was a fairly average club player and my rubber of choice was 2.0 Friendship 729 which was tacky but not too slow and had great control. I always loved playing people with Stiga Mark V. Invariably they loved being able to put loads of spin on their serve but if you had that worked out it was relatively easy to return and you almost gave them back their own spin with interest.
Hi, I have a Nittaku Violin five plywood blade, and found it to be excellent for control and feel. It is a real pleasure to play with it. However, judging from your advice, I feel that the TEnergy 05 FX 1.7 for both my forehand and backhand are too fast and not ideal for a beginner. Indeed, I love a playing style that favours control and feeling. Please I’d be very grateful if you could advise which rubber I should get; I struggle returning backspin with pushes so perhaps a Chinese rubber might be best. Grazie! Gaetano
As you are a newer player, I feel that Tenergy may be too fast. I'd recommend Butterfly Sriver on the backhand and DHS H3 neo for the forehand. Keep in mind that the Chinese rubber will require a full arm loop with solid weight transfer in your legs to get a good hit. If you don't want to go full on tacky for the forehand, you can actually use the Sriver on the forehand as well. Thanks for reaching out!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi, my DHS H3 neo for my forehand has just arrived. I tried it and it’s truly excellent; the ball dwells on the racket a lot longer, allowing for great control and feeling. It is a real pleasure to play with it. Thank you very much for your invaluable advice. I couldn’t get hold of a Sriver for my backhand so got a Yasaka Mark v, as it appears that the two have similar properties. I’ll let you know how it goes. Again, thank you very much for your help. Gaetano
Great Video. Do you consider the ALC weave to be to fast? I am approaching the 2000 level here in the US (currently 1888 as of last summer). I use the DHS 301 with Hurricane 8 on FH and Xiom Omega 7 Asia on BH.
Ethan, thank you for the compliment on my video. I do consider the ALC carbon a moderately fast type of blade material, too fast for beginners but you should be OK. That said when I compare it to ZLC it is a little bit slower and has more dwell time allowing you a larger margin of error. The increased dwell time also results in more feeling and control. ZLC is just crazy fast.
Good video thanks. About 35 years ago I played 1st division standard, county junior level. Used a stiga stellar bengtsson offensive blade with butterfly rubbers, can't recall but sticky on backhand, normal forehand. I'm looking to play again after all these years, but things have moved on so much. What would you recommend I chose blade and rubber wise. Back then my game was fast forehand loop, not so sure now. Thank you very much
If you have this kind of experience, I would recommend not limiting yourself with slower equipment. You can't go wrong with Butterfly, Donic, Yasaka, DHS, Tibhar, and Xiom products. I recommend 2mm thickness on both FH and BH rubber. Welcome back to the game my friend!
I have never played with an actual good quality bat, the best I have used is about $15 U.S. from a regular sporting goods store. I can play forehand and backhand pretty consistently but I struggle when I play against people who have high quality paddles. How much of a difference did you notice when you first started playing with higher end equipment? I have noticed that I feel I have reached the point where no matter what I do with this cheaper paddle I am not able to generate any more spin to manipulate the ball like I have seen done by good players. I am sure that much of it is technique, but how much of a difference would you say is made by the better bat/paddle ?
Hello and thank you for your question. It is a night and day type of difference. When I started in 2018 I played with a premade for 6 months. The day I transitioned to my first custom setup was the day that I first truly experienced the game.
great video. Just started table tennis again with my 25 years, I played when I was 15 years old. I will get a 5-Ply-Wood from andro. I will follow your channel. My question: to relearn i want to go with Forehand DHS Hurricane 8 and backhand Andro Hexergrip SFX (42,5 ESN sponge). Is that fine or are they to too intermediate level when I just started to relearn table tennis? You can recommend me another DHS Forehand rubber if you want : ) Greetings from Germany
I am really excited to hear you are getting back into table tennis. I like your blade choice. Hurricane 8 is considered a fast rubber. If you find it is out of control go with Hurricane 3 Neo (no booster lol). Hexer-grip is also a good choice. Fast but not extreme.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thx for the reply. Blade will be TP Ligna ALL (5-ply) for feeling and control. I want to go with H8 because I saw more positive reviews in the Web. I can change when it doesnt fit. Thoughts on the blade ? Best wishes, Christopher
@@Technical.Table.Tennis one more question. Do I have to boost the Hurricane 8? I often read DHS rubbers are unplayable without it. I dont want to boost but I will do it when I have to
Hello, Thanks for the video, very interesting. After reading the comments, I will take as blades: Yasaka Sweden Extra. In terms of the handle type, do you have any advice? For rubber, Xiom vega europe 1.8 on both sides? I am a beginner, I will go with the European style, And other question, In terms of maintenance / lifespan, at a rate of 2-3 hours a week, how long does the racket survive? Thanks
Great video. Any suggestions on sites to build your custom paddle. Also any recommendations on blades and rubbers that meet the criteria in your video?
I have took on table tennis after 30 years. Was an intermediate level, so I got myself a Stiga offensive classic equipped with yasaka mark 5 on both sides. Trajectories are very high and balls are flying all around. So I got a Yasaka Dynamix just for comparison (rated offensive+, 11 layers of wood and 6 of carbon) equipped with Yasaka Rakza 7 soft bh and Rakza X medium-hard on the fh and with this combination I can really play well, lot of control, spin and speed. With this combination I do nearly what I want. I still can't figure how the Stiga-MarkV combination that is supposed to be much more friendly in reality is... too much. In the end probably it is necessary to try few combinations before finding the right one.
Welcome back. I hope you're having fun. I just replied to another viewer about keeping the ball on the table for forehand loop. Maybe it will help in your case "It is a difficult shot. It all starts with keeping your body relaxed so it can move fluidly. The ball flying far could be for three reasons. Your arm is tense and therefore you are not completing a fast enough elbow snap to add spin to the ball that makes it dive back to the table. Your bat angle is opening upwards as you hit. You are hitting with too much force and not enough spin. Test these and see what you can figure out"
This should mean you have strong control over all basic strokes and loops on both forehand and backhand. Play with whichever equipment you would like at this point. Butterfly and Donic are my personal favorite brands in reqards to quality and performance
Nice video with good explanation. There are not so much videos on this theme (I mean quality videos about table tennis), so keep doing it) Could you please help me with choosing blade and rover too. I am not a beginner, played a lot, but didn't assemble rackets before. My style is kinda combined: I like defending but quite often do top spins and some attacks. So I thought to get more attacking forehand and defending backhand, maybe even with thorns. What do you think about that? My budget is around 70-80 dollars :)
Hi Danis and thank you for reaching out! Though this is not my style of play, it would make sense to have a defensive blade, slow and high control rubber on BH, and a fast offensive rubber on the FH. I did some research and the Donic Defplay blade has received a lot of support from defensive players and the bat face is wider for this style of play (the blade is under $40 USD).
@@danisbegishev8377 If you want to block and and attack with the backhand us shorts pimples. If you want to chop and attack with the backhand use long pimples.
I don't mention brands as to avoid "selling" on my channel. Xiom Vega Europe 1.8mm thickness is one of my favorite beginner BH rubbers as it has good control and is forgiving to minor mistakes. FH rubber that depends on your playing style but DHS hurricane neo 2.0mm for Chinese style or Xiom Vega Pro 1.8mm for Euro style
Nice video so simple and good i will get tibhar carbon shot and xiom vega europe and xiom musa i was playing when i was a kid i started back 2 years ago i was playing ona xiom 5.5s and it was so slow i tried timo boll black and xiom 7.0 s too
Hello, I would like some advice. I am a beginner to intermediate player and i would like to know how a 3 ply wood + 2 carbon compare to a 5 ply wood? I play half defensive and half offensive when i can. I am a European style forehand dominant player. For my first customized racket, i decided to go with 5 ply all wood Palio B-11 blade with Palio 40+ AK47gold forhand rubber and Palio 40+ hadou backhand rubber.
Awesome setup by the way. The amount of control and feeling is increased with the all wood blade. The speed is slower, but that just means you have to work on having great technique.
This video was awesome. I dedided to change my old Wakaba 2000 for A Maze performance and 2 Butterfly Roundell soft rubbers¿What do you think? I'd to hear your opinion.
That's a high quality all wood blade. I hear Roundell rubbers often mute the feeling of the ball into the blade but I imagine good technique will make this rubber as playable as any other.
Thank you very much! Tabletennis11.com sells a table tennis rejuvenator. You can also clean the rubber with tiny drop of dish soap and water, let it dry, and then rub a drop of olive oil on it. Let it sit overnight and that should do the trick. If that doesn't work, nothing will.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis rip... its a 5 ply.. 3 ply of poplar and 2 Chinese basswood. it is also has thick sponge and strong grip however it doesn't stick even though i play the asian style
Hi! I'm considering buying a new racket and wondering if it would be good to buy Xiom omega 7 europe on BH and Vega X or Rakza Z on FH. wich ones are recommended? I like playing with a lot of spin and I am trying to develop more consistency and speed. I am beginner to intermediate and would love to get some feedback!
This is a good setup. Hope this worked out well for you. Make sure the FH rubber is 2mm and the BH is 1.8. These are good thicknesses for speed and control
I am an intermediate player who wants to create my first custom-made paddle. I want to play defensively hitting mostly slices on my backhand and forehand. Any recommendations?
Hello! I am glad to hear you're getting into the game. Use long pips on the backhand and checkout victas inverted rubbers for the forehand. Best of luck!
Hello, which rubber thickness for a beginner of 10 year? I’m going with Yasaka sweden extra with Yasaka Mark V on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH, thank you!
Love the video! The amount of choices is overwhelming but with your help it narrows it down a lot. What do you think of the Stiga Infinity VPS? i have been training 2 times a week for six months and my coach recommended a get a faster blade. I want to learn to play with chinese styles rubbers, tacky and hard sponges
@@Counterstrikeforce Hi! Yeah got around October and paired it with Nittaku H3 Blue and a Fastarc G1. It has been a blast, it definitely takes more discipline and time to play Chinese style but I am seeing the results now, can't be lazy and technique has to be on point
Hello, what would you recommend for a player stuck in the lowest league with 1100 TTR Points in Germany? A yasaka sweeden extra or xiom offensive s? And what rubber? xiom vega europe or bluestorm z3 for the backhand and for the forehand vega pro, mark v or friednship bloom power? I am sick of losing i hope you can help me. I am 27 years by the way
Hello! I definitely recommend the Sweden Extra. Better feeling and more control. Any of those rubbers will work fine, but for the most control I would do Vega Europe on the BH and Mark V or DHS H3 Neo on FH. Thanks for reaching out. I wish you the best of luck!
Hello! It really depends. If you are a beginner make sure the sponge is 2.0 or less on both forehand and backhand. Typically forehand is thicker of the 2 because you can generate more power from that side.
Anthony. Great choice. That’s a high control setup. I played that same blade for a while. I enjoyed it but found that the blade had a muted kind of feeling.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thank you Jin. I am 55, playing around a year now, returned to play after about 35-40 yrs. So i am not novice, but maybe a beginner-intermediate player. I am playing now with a premade 5* 729 paddle, which was fine at the start but now feels a bit slow- good control but relatively low spin and speed. I do love the the control aspect, but the lack of the others does interfere when i play with advanced players. My style is european i suppose although not sure yet. For now i feel i have more control with my BH, although my FH is not bad either. I also love playing an aggressive defense when needed :) Sorry if that's to long. Appreciate your response and help very much
I like the idea of you playing a slightly faster setup to allow faster active blocking. In this case I would go with a 5-ply all-wood offensive minus to offensive regular rated blade. Most large brands have a blade of this style so pick your favorite. As for rubbers I like Rozena, Bluefire m2, rasanter R42, and Xiom Vega Europe around 1.8mm thickness on backhand. For forehand I recommend tenergy05, viom vega pro, bluefire m1, or any medium hard tensor rubber in 1.8mm. If you would like more speed then step up the thickness to 2mm
Thank you. We really like Xiom Vega Europe, , Donic Bluefire M3 ,Yasaka Fastarc C1, Tenergy 05fx, and Butterfly Rozena, and the list goes on. , but any soft tensor rubber from the top brands will do
Sir ur videos very helpful for me Sir i play play tt regularly from 6 months I want to buy my first custom made racket I choose stiga all round classic blade With mark 5 with both sides. It is good combination for me plz suggest me
Hey Jin Jeon. First of, really helpful video! For my dad's birthday, I want to buy him a proper racquet, but I don't want to spend too much money. He plays with shakehand grip and prefers forehand. After scrolling through the comments and your advices I want to buy a Yasaka Sweden Extra FL, but I'm not sure about the rubbers yet. I'm considering the Friendship 729 on both sides, maybe a thicker version on the forehand side. It's cheap and has many good reviews. What do you think? Is it a good option? Edit: Actually I think that rubber is a chinese rubber, right? Can you recommend any good european rubbers for BH and FH in the same price class?
Hi. I’m an 1800 ish long pips attacker and play with 05 thick sponge tenergy on a jo se hoek blade. What would you recommend for my forehand if I am to take the next step to get to 2000. I play to get better, technically. I feel that I’m not good enough to play the tenergy.
Hi Jin Jeon! Thanks for the video. I am looking for a control equipment. I have an andro Wano Midori and FH GEWO HYPE EL. I want control in my game and I enjoy spinning Do you think is it a good idea for instance a tackiness rubber as Butterfly shop II or is it better to get for example Tibhart Aurus sound for BH? Thanks in advanced!
Hi Jose, Both rubbers you mentioned have a lot of spin, but they also have a lot of speed. This means control will be low. Try to find a backhand rubber with a lower speed rating. Try looking into the Donic line. They make some of my favorite BH rubbers.
Thank you for watching. Hope you are still playing. Sticky rubbers: Hurricane H3, Yasaka Rakza Z and Palio rubbers could be manageable. As for the blade, go for any 5 ply all wood blade that is rated offensive - to Allround
Hi Clifford. What style of penhold are you playing? C-pen, and J-pen typically only have one side while the more modern and advanced RPB style plays with both sides (think penholder's like Ma Lin and Xu Xin). I would recommend playing RPB in today's modern game because it allows you to topspin from the backhand and forehand.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks for the swift and detailed reply, I am still finding the most comfortable position for my fingers, i like to curve them most of the time. And since i only play casually, i haven't tried rpb at all, so i guess that would be traditional cpen.
In that case, you only need rubber on the forehand side. Some people put sand paper or colored sheets on the backhand for aesthetics, but it is not necessary
Hi Sir, very informative video. Even though I am playing TT since 4 years, I am still beginner in this case. My dealer had given me few options and I am totally confused. What would you suggest. Thanks in advance. The options are Backhand rubber Rakza 7 Good spin with nice speed Forehand rubber Andro rasanter r42/r47 Bluefire m2 Mxs M2 is my recommendation Nice spin with control Blades Tibhar stratus power carbon Stiga carbonado 145 Timo boll alc Viscaria
Thank you jin . Very nice video. I m am intermediate level player who plays in a local club. Can you please suggest a few nontensor rubbers for forehand and back hand for me. It's going to be my first custom racket and I need alot of control please. There are so many brands out there and rubbers and u don't know which one to choose. Can you please help
You're welcome! So many people I know stand by Yasaka Mark V. It's old school, but provides the right amount of grip and speed for someone looking for control
I haven't purchased it yet for beginners for my equipment what are you thought of these setup I'm considering? Butterfly SK7 classic racquet the rubber front Butterfly Tenergy 05 2.1mm ( Red) and the back BUTTERFLY Tenergy 64 2.1mm (Black) it comes with free glue / assemble service and I added side tape RB protector 12mm Let me know if this combination is okay if not what else do you suggest? Appreciated your help 😊
Great video, I’m looking to go with the joola classic all tennis blade, joola max 450 table tennis rubber for backhand, and Joola Dynaryz ACC rubber for forehand. Any thoughts? Also do you know where I could get this setup put together instead of doing it myself?
can you please recommend a cheap set up (chinese style) for a begginer? i need the specifics because i'm totally a newbie.. thank you.. new subscriber here
A good friend of mine uses the Yasaka Sweden Extra with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand and Xiom Vega Europe on the backhand. All of these are very affordable. Try tabletennis11.com
im thinking of getting the yasaka sweden extra and Jupiter II for FH, but I can't seem to find a reasonably priced backhand rubber on amazon, any suggestions, bh rubber budget is 15$
hi, I am using Yasaka sweden extra, Xiom vega x max for forehand and Donic M3 max for my backhand, I have started playing 2 years back. Just passing the beginner level. Do you think weather my setup is good, How long should I continue before moving to next setup and What should actually be my next setup, Please provide your suggestions.
Love to hear it! Your setup can easily support you through the advanced level. I wouldn't change it. Grow with it. Thanks for watching and nice to meet you!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi Jeon, Thanks for that, Just one more question I am using newgy 2055 robot to improve and wondering how should I use my time in training like how much percentage of time on Fh ,bh, drills, irregular ball and other strokes like push, flick etc, Can you share a training plan in this regards, Thanks in advance
I believe that games are inherently irregular and you should spend at least 30% of training on irregular drills, 30% on technique for shots that you lack, 20% on serve practice, and 20% on serve return. Footwork is very important and you should be thoughtful of it during any drill.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I think this is interesting to update my progress during the 3 club matches I played. I won 2 out of 3 but I feel I made too many unforced errors by trying to be aggressive however at the same time it gave me very good points as well so I want to continue my playing style but at the same time reduce the unforced errors what is the best exercise or goal that I can do or achieve with the robot to overcome this deficiency . Thanks in advance and hope you will get time to reply. Cheers
When is it an appropriate time to step up to a carbon blade? I have been playing for around 4-5 years now with a Nittaku Violin (with DHS Hurricane 3 Neo on forehand). I feel like my blade is too flexy when I hit hard and I can't land high quality forehands. I tried my clubmate's viscaria and the speed + spin I was able to generate was crazy. And also felt more controlled in a way.
Viscaria most likely had Tenergy or Dignics both of which generate massive spin with this blade. My friend, as long as you are doing complete strokes and imparting massive spin on the ball, it will hit the table with high consistency. The Violin is a pro level blade, but I will say that the Butterfly Viscaria is the world's most popular carbon blade for a reason. In this case I would urge you to stay with your current blade, perfect topspin with a complete stroke and then move to carbon
Hi ! Thanks for this video. I'm sad to see that you haven't posted for several months ... It won't be my first racket but following your advice I chose a Tibhar Stratus Power Wood (I was hesitant with the Xiom Offensive S), FH Rubber: Rakza Z because i'm boring to boost my H3 Neo, but I don't know what to take on backhand ... Rakza 7/7 soft? or maybe Xiom Vega Asia? ... i'm lost.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Awesome, so how do I find the right rubber. What classifications should I be looking at to find the right one for both forehand and backhand. All the names of all the rubbers are confusing.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was thinking more Chinese, a bit more spin and control rather than outright speed. Although eventually I want to get onto something faster
Hey Marcus. Go for DHS H3 Neo on FH and try Yasaka Rigan or Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Basically classic Chinese rubber on FH and a slower euro tensor on BH. Go with an all wood 5-ply allround to allround + blade.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis you are awesome! Thank you very much for your advice, definetly I'll get one. If it is not too much asking, What rubbers will work fine with it? Keep the good work, cheers!
@@PargusAuriga With C-Pen you really should be playing with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand. The backhand should be something that is controllable and easy to block with like Yasaka Mark V in 1.8 thickness.
Hello. If i am a beginner and i want more control and more spin. What preasambled bat do you recomend? I searched this models and i am curios what's your opinion : Loki k3 palio star 2 timo boll sg 55 reactor corbor Team butterfly advance
Are there not any pre assembled paddles worth it I saw a nice butterfly one , I am I guess intermediate been playing for years but just now getting lessons and wanting to improve my game
Which one would be better : Stiga allround classic or yasaka sweden classic? Would love your recommendations for a good racket setup. I am an amateur and i use reverse penhold grip ,but I prefer a flared grip(it is comfortable) and I am forehand dominant . Also please do include any alternatives for Chinese rubbers. Your help is much appreciated. PS: Love your videos❤️
Hi Trap! Yasaka Sweden all day. I played that Stiga blade for a week and it had the feeling of a tree trunk. Alternative Chinese rubbers from DHS H3- Palio Hadou and Yinhe 9000 Milky Way are both inexpensive and fairly wonderful to play with. Nice to meet you =).
@@Technical.Table.Tennis also do you have knowledge of European rubbers that are similar to Chinese rubbers (live in india so currently boycotting Chinese goods). Also thank you for the previous reply.
Hello, thanks for the video , also I am looking for a beginner paddle, I was looking over your comments and I was thinking for this setup " Yasaka Sweden extra, Xiom Vega Europe 1.8 on BH, and DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH" . I play european style, what do you think about this dhs h3 neo 2.0 , is good for me (i am a little confuse) ? also may you tell me where i can find this rubber(dhs h3 neo2.0) ? on tabletennis11 is not for 2.0 , i saw just for 2.15 thank you
Welcome Olaru! I love the selection you have made. It was my exact setup about 18 months ago. If you plan to play a European style you should actually do Xiom Vega Europe on both sides! 1.8 is a good thickness if you are a beginner because the thinner sponge will give you even more control. I wouldn't recommend DHS if your plan is to play European style because the rubber is very sticky and will require full arm loops with a Chinese technique, while the less sticky Xiom Vega Europe will allow a shorter stroke while still generating sufficient spin and power. I hope this helps!
I always lacquer the blade to protect it from splintering when replacing rubbers in the future. It is nearly impossible to feel a difference with or without it.
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After not playing for many years , I am starting again, and I was soooooo lost about what to get and watched so many videos.. Yours was by FAAAAAAR the best.. simple, to the point, logical and informative... THANK you soooo much
You are so very welcome! Let me know what equipment you decide on
Your explanation is like a brilliant bonus to Emratthich's channel's video on choosing a racket setup. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Gerard. I'm hoping to get more people to enjoy this game and a good racket setup helps a lot.
Great tutorial! When I started playing, i made the mistake of buying a premade 7ply paddle but luckily was good enough to keep up with it. After a while of playing I decided to get an upgrade so I started watching a couple youtube videos on buying a racket, I realized my mistake and went ahead and bought a 5ply YSE with 729 Friendship Battle 2 FH and Xiom Vega Europe BH. This allowed me to learn techniques better. Now Im currently looking for a new setup! I loved my 7ply so I'm looking at going with the DHS Power G7 with Nittaku Fastarc G-1 FH and Yasaka Rakza 7 BH!
Glad you enjoyed it! I hear good things about the G7 being a great value for the money. Those rubbers you mentioned are both high quality and will serve you well. Just remember as you change your equipment, the adjustment can effect your playing for up to 3 months. Stick with it and unleash the power!
This is the most useful video I've found on how to pick rubbers and blade for your table tennis bat. Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you. I am back and will be making new videos!
Hi Jin! Thank you for this video. It is easily the most informative one on the topic I’ve found. Most of the others use “slow and fast” as characteristics, and of course I was biased towards fast. The technical explanations help me a lot. Without this I don’t think I would have decided to upgrade to custom racket.
Ok. I currently play with a cheap pre made racket, and am reasonably happy with improvements over the last 6 months. My style is close to the table, aggressive forehand, fast backhand blocks and loops.
I tried a Donic premade Carbon racket and found that I had very little control to put serves back with spin. The sound of hollow tocks tocks nearly drove me mad.
I’m looking to improve on my backhand speed and spin. Especially to counter a specific style of player that chops deep on my backhand. Would also like a little more speed on my forehand smashes but without compromising control. I’ve been winning most points on the forehand shot and it would be depressing to go backwards on that.
Additionally I would like more spin in my forehand serves.
Thanks again!
Love to hear about your journey! Carbon rackets are FAST so I always recommend a 5-ply all wood blade for beginners. Try to find one that is around 84-88 grams and that should provide you enough weight to play quick while still maintaining control. If you are looking for more spin on your forehand serves then you need a rubber that can grip. As for attaining more speed and spin, you have to look inward at your technique. A professional can inject spin with the slowest professional grade equipment. Even budget grade pro equipment will show a significant increase in speed, spin, and feeling compared to a pre-made racket
Great video my friend. After years of playing , I can say is the best video I´ve seen about this topic. TY VERYMCH.
Thank you sir! I'm glad it helped =)
You would make a great TT coach Jin! Thanks for the vids.
I really appreciate your compliment Sam. I'm here to help.
Hi, well done for your comments. Simple and precise. I wish I had a comment on the thickness of the rubbers and the hardness. Thanks you
Great point. Is there anything I can help you with regarding the thickness and hardness of rubbers?
I have always bought whatever blade or rubbers I fancied and then just learned to play with them. I believe if you are a reasonably competent player you can adapt your style to any kind of set-up
Competent is the key word here. Most people choosing their first paddle are beginners. Love to hear that you have experience in the game though
As a many year player, medium/advance level I fully approve your tutorial. Cheers.
I appreciate it. Cheers!
Your video is very helpful. I'm upgrading from premade (friendship) racket. I want to build My own and also transition from all-rounder to attacker.
I'm eyeing to these blades (easily available in my area).
- Sanwei C6 Carbon
- Sanwei Hinoki Carbon
- Sanwei LD Carbon
I'm kind of confused on the thickness and softness-hardness of the sponge. Any rubber suggestions for fh/bh to pair with these blades? Cheers!
Hello! What do you like about your friendship racket? What don't you like about it? This can help us figure out what will be the best equipment for you. The sponge thickness will affect the play like this: thicker sponge makes more bounce because the ball sinks deeper into it and likewise rebounds harder as that rubber pushes the ball off. It also cups around the point of contact making more grip and therfore more spin. Thinner rubber is easier to control because there is less bounce, but doesn't spin as much on harder hits because the ball doesn't sink in as much. I recommend 2.0mm up to max for attackers to get the most speed and spin. Control players can use 1.7mm and 1.8mm. I personally use an inner carbon blade lending good speed on power shots and control on touch play. I don't like hinoki blades, because they feel like playing with an i flated plastic bottle. I do like the crispy feeling of koto and Limba outer layers
THANK YOU. Man. It's been so annoying trying to find good info on what kind of bat to get. Really appreciate this video.
Hello! Thank you for this guide. What're your thoughts on a Yasaka Sweden Xtra with a Yasaka Razka 7 1.8mm BH and a Yasaka Rigan 2.0mm FH?
I am an all around player that loves to play tons of spin especially on serves - my specialty is my BH serve. Open to other set up recommendations as well. Thank you so much.
Also I am Euro style. Lastly, what shape handle is best? Thank you.
This setup is a classic and you cannot go wrong. I'm curious why you chose rigan for BH instead of putting Rakza 7 on both sides?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was trying to create more spin on my backhand.. If I went with Razka 7 on both, should I do 1.8m or 2.0mm? Also straight or flared handle?
So grateful for your direction. - Trey
Most players use flared. If you want more control get the thinner one
So short, but how helpful is it! Thank you!
Thank you! Hope you are having fun playing
Amazing video. Great tips and wide coverage in relatively short time. Many thanks Jin Jeon!
Wow! I would recommend this video to anyone planning to build their first rackets.
Thanks! Hopefully yoy are still playing!
Like very much your video. Can you please advice best FH sticky rubber and BH rubber like yours. Can't wait to test it.
At the time of this video I was using DHS Hurricane 3 Neo 2mm on FH and Donic Barracuda 1.8mm on BH. Good luck and happy playing!
Hi I am new to your page and find your clips very helpful. Thank you for all of your explanations. I appreciate you haven't mentioned any names so as to not advertise and keep this educational. But Can you recommend what's the best blade and rubber and where to purchase it for beginners? Thank you.
I always recommend Yasaka Mark V 2mm on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Any 5 ply all wood blade will do with speed in the offensive minus to the allround level
Excellent Video. Coming back to this sport. Where do you recommend shopping online for a Custom paddle?
Table tennis 11
Great video! You nicely simplified all the complexity associated with getting a custom paddle. I wish I'd seen this four months ago when I returned to table tennis after a long hiatus. I'm an intermediate player and wanted to get your thoughts on Nittaku G-1 2.0 as a forehand (and possibly backhand) rubber. It's the perennially best selling rubber in Asia (and also #1 on tabletennis11, the website you recommended). Also, hope you post new videos soon!
I am glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for watching. I actually used the Nittacku G-1 2.0 on both sides of my current setup! They are fast but for an intermediate player, they are manageable. You have great taste! ;)
My first blade was the Butterfly VSG. It's perfect of you want to feel the ball impact
That's awesome. What are you playing with now?
@@Technical.Table.TennisBTY Innerforce Layer ALC
My recommendation rubber/blade for European style play
Yasaka Sweden Extra
Yasaka Rigan for both sides.
Really great for beginners and can carry you into intermediate levels no problem, a bit slow for higher competitions but will still do emotional damage to loopers .
I double this comment! Great input
This is great but I wish you would put some links to bats and rubbers that you suggest. Im so confused on what to purchase.
Hey man love thw vids! Question what non tenser rubber should i buy from stiga. Thanks. All love.
Stiga Mendo is very basic rubber from Stiga. Give it a try!
Fantastic tips covered. Wish I had known this years ago. But it's never too late.
It really is never too late! We all change equipment as time goes on. What are you playing with now?
This was just so amazing thanks a lot
Glad you enjoyed it Ireesh! Thanks for tuning in. Let me know if I can answer any other questions in the future.
bro, you are so good!!!! Your explanation is very good, I think im getting the chineese one since it can produce a crazy amount of spin and not very fast which is controllable, thank you so much for the explanation. Im thinking to get a Forfar rubber but im not sure if it as good since they didn't really talked which type of rubber it is. We would like to see a review about that rubber please ;)
Thanks Mustafa! I personally go the Chinese route myself. The style is just so unbelievably fun to watch. I can’t buy the forfar rubber. From what I am told they will stink up an entire house lol
@@Technical.Table.Tennis yea you aactually true, i saw the reviews in amazon and they all says it will make the place smell so bad lol. Thank you!
Lol. You’re welcome!
Hi, nice review and nice tip. I am intermediate player and I play lot of fh with Butterfly Rozena tenser rubber. What chinese rubber do you recomend foe forehand? Pls put name of brand and model.
Planning to buy my first one . Pls advise between these 3 blades -
Stiga All Round classic/ Stiga Energywood/
Xiom Aria Lite ?
Tnz for quick response
Hi Harry, they are all similar in speed and control. I have a bias for Xiom so naturally I would pick the Aria Lite.
Stiga blades tend to have this hollow feeling. I like my blades to have a crisp feeling when I hit the ball.
What an excellent explanation, thank you so much. Subscribed. I am coming back to TT after 45 y. hiatus. Don't know anything about modern bats and rubber tbh, don't even remember what bat did I play with when in the Uni. Bought a Nittaku Violin with 2 mm Fastarc G-1 rubber on both sides ( Won't lie, half price offer was a factor :). Impressions after the first 2 hour session: a bit faster than expected (the rubber?). But the feel is interesting with flex, but control is here, feels and sounds like a quality paddle. Feedback is so strong, I never experienced it before. Still overhitting at times. The blade looks like a keeper, the rubber - I have no idea. Any thought on this blade/rubber combo for and old geezer coming back to TT after half a century in the wild and feeling like a beginner, trying to get my basics right again despite lots of inconsistency? I heavily rely on spin in my game.
Hi ,can u give ur comment about mark v rubber for bigger or intermediate player. Player with forehand strength
It’s a great rubber for beginning and intermediate player. Thanks for watching!
Love the explanation... Can you recommend me a setup for beginners? Blade and rubber. Many thanks.
Thanks for watching LagunaIX! I always recommend a 5 ply all wood blade with a speed rating of all round to all round plus. For the backhand rubber there is a great entry level tensor rubber made by Xiom called the Xiom Vega Intro that has a high level of control. As for the forehand, what style do you want to emulate, Chinese or Euro?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis prefer Chinese style... The rubber should I choose max hardness or soft for the forehand? If European style which rubber is good?.. Thanks for replying me.
@@ricky6770 If you choose Chinese style I would go with DHS H3 and use the medium hardness to begin with. If European style I would recommend non-tensor rubbers from Stiga.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Got it. Thanks... Looking forward to more of your video. Since i don't a coach to teach me about table tennis... Watching online tutorials is my only coach. ❤️
You're welcome. I will be making a basic stroke series soon, so stay tuned for more!
Warm regards,
Jin Jeon
Hi I am from uk and I have m1 turbo from donic on both sides and I have the donic blade and I am a attacking spin player what could u recommend thanks
Excellent for my level. Thanks!
Thank you very much! What sponge thickness do you suggest for intermediates on fh/bh?
I would say keep it simple, so anywhere from 1.8 to 2.1mm is good
What rubber do you use in the forehand?
Question, for the blade how to determine the forehand side particularly hand shake grip . Please reply, thank you
Hi Edgar. What do you currently have on the forehand side what do you like and not like about it?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis hi how are you , the one with the logo was my forehand is it correct.
One of the finest video! Needed your recommendation for blade thinking of using Mark V on both sides. Intermediate player with shakehand grip(European style).
Yasaka sweden extra.
Not played for many years now but always remember how novices made the error of buying too powerful a rubber. I was a fairly average club player and my rubber of choice was 2.0 Friendship 729 which was tacky but not too slow and had great control. I always loved playing people with Stiga Mark V. Invariably they loved being able to put loads of spin on their serve but if you had that worked out it was relatively easy to return and you almost gave them back their own spin with interest.
Hi, I have a Nittaku Violin five plywood blade, and found it to be excellent for control and feel. It is a real pleasure to play with it. However, judging from your advice, I feel that the TEnergy 05 FX 1.7 for both my forehand and backhand are too fast and not ideal for a beginner. Indeed, I love a playing style that favours control and feeling. Please I’d be very grateful if you could advise which rubber I should get; I struggle returning backspin with pushes so perhaps a Chinese rubber might be best. Grazie! Gaetano
As you are a newer player, I feel that Tenergy may be too fast. I'd recommend Butterfly Sriver on the backhand and DHS H3 neo for the forehand. Keep in mind that the Chinese rubber will require a full arm loop with solid weight transfer in your legs to get a good hit. If you don't want to go full on tacky for the forehand, you can actually use the Sriver on the forehand as well. Thanks for reaching out!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thank you very much for your prompt and informative reply. Will use these rubbers as you suggest. Gaetano
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi, my DHS H3 neo for my forehand has just arrived. I tried it and it’s truly excellent; the ball dwells on the racket a lot longer, allowing for great control and feeling. It is a real pleasure to play with it. Thank you very much for your invaluable advice. I couldn’t get hold of a Sriver for my backhand so got a Yasaka Mark v, as it appears that the two have similar properties. I’ll let you know how it goes. Again, thank you very much for your help. Gaetano
Gaetano, you are very welcome. That’s all awesome news! H3 Neo is a true bargain and I love it too! Happy playing friend!
Great Video. Do you consider the ALC weave to be to fast? I am approaching the 2000 level here in the US (currently 1888 as of last summer). I use the DHS 301 with Hurricane 8 on FH and Xiom Omega 7 Asia on BH.
Ethan, thank you for the compliment on my video. I do consider the ALC carbon a moderately fast type of blade material, too fast for beginners but you should be OK. That said when I compare it to ZLC it is a little bit slower and has more dwell time allowing you a larger margin of error. The increased dwell time also results in more feeling and control. ZLC is just crazy fast.
Good video thanks. About 35 years ago I played 1st division standard, county junior level. Used a stiga stellar bengtsson offensive blade with butterfly rubbers, can't recall but sticky on backhand, normal forehand. I'm looking to play again after all these years, but things have moved on so much. What would you recommend I chose blade and rubber wise. Back then my game was fast forehand loop, not so sure now. Thank you very much
If you have this kind of experience, I would recommend not limiting yourself with slower equipment. You can't go wrong with Butterfly, Donic, Yasaka, DHS, Tibhar, and Xiom products. I recommend 2mm thickness on both FH and BH rubber. Welcome back to the game my friend!
Thank you very much. Yes looking forward to getting a blade and getting back playing.
I have never played with an actual good quality bat, the best I have used is about $15 U.S. from a regular sporting goods store. I can play forehand and backhand pretty consistently but I struggle when I play against people who have high quality paddles. How much of a difference did you notice when you first started playing with higher end equipment? I have noticed that I feel I have reached the point where no matter what I do with this cheaper paddle I am not able to generate any more spin to manipulate the ball like I have seen done by good players. I am sure that much of it is technique, but how much of a difference would you say is made by the better bat/paddle ?
Hello and thank you for your question. It is a night and day type of difference. When I started in 2018 I played with a premade for 6 months. The day I transitioned to my first custom setup was the day that I first truly experienced the game.
What brand would u recomment starting with?
Is Nittaku good?
great video. Just started table tennis again with my 25 years, I played when I was 15 years old.
I will get a 5-Ply-Wood from andro. I will follow your channel.
My question: to relearn i want to go with Forehand DHS Hurricane 8 and backhand Andro Hexergrip SFX (42,5 ESN sponge).
Is that fine or are they to too intermediate level when I just started to relearn table tennis?
You can recommend me another DHS Forehand rubber if you want : )
Greetings from Germany
I am really excited to hear you are getting back into table tennis. I like your blade choice. Hurricane 8 is considered a fast rubber. If you find it is out of control go with Hurricane 3 Neo (no booster lol). Hexer-grip is also a good choice. Fast but not extreme.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thx for the reply. Blade will be TP Ligna ALL (5-ply) for feeling and control. I want to go with H8 because I saw more positive reviews in the Web. I can change when it doesnt fit. Thoughts on the blade ? Best wishes, Christopher
The blade is perfect. Great choice :)
@@Technical.Table.Tennis one more question. Do I have to boost the Hurricane 8? I often read DHS rubbers are unplayable without it. I dont want to boost but I will do it when I have to
@@Superdanceband The Hurricane 8 was made to have more speed so boosting would not be required. It's a plug and play type of application.
Hello,
Thanks for the video, very interesting.
After reading the comments, I will take as blades: Yasaka Sweden Extra.
In terms of the handle type, do you have any advice?
For rubber, Xiom vega europe 1.8 on both sides?
I am a beginner, I will go with the European style,
And other question, In terms of maintenance / lifespan, at a rate of 2-3 hours a week, how long does the racket survive?
Thanks
Great video. Any suggestions on sites to build your custom paddle. Also any recommendations on blades and rubbers that meet the criteria in your video?
I have took on table tennis after 30 years. Was an intermediate level, so I got myself a Stiga offensive classic equipped with yasaka mark 5 on both sides. Trajectories are very high and balls are flying all around. So I got a Yasaka Dynamix just for comparison (rated offensive+, 11 layers of wood and 6 of carbon) equipped with Yasaka Rakza 7 soft bh and Rakza X medium-hard on the fh and with this combination I can really play well, lot of control, spin and speed. With this combination I do nearly what I want.
I still can't figure how the Stiga-MarkV combination that is supposed to be much more friendly in reality is... too much. In the end probably it is necessary to try few combinations before finding the right one.
Welcome back. I hope you're having fun. I just replied to another viewer about keeping the ball on the table for forehand loop. Maybe it will help in your case "It is a difficult shot. It all starts with keeping your body relaxed so it can move fluidly. The ball flying far could be for three reasons. Your arm is tense and therefore you are not completing a fast enough elbow snap to add spin to the ball that makes it dive back to the table. Your bat angle is opening upwards as you hit. You are hitting with too much force and not enough spin. Test these and see what you can figure out"
Great tips, Do you have any suggestions for an aggressive intermediate player, around 100-150 dollars?
This should mean you have strong control over all basic strokes and loops on both forehand and backhand. Play with whichever equipment you would like at this point. Butterfly and Donic are my personal favorite brands in reqards to quality and performance
Nice video with good explanation. There are not so much videos on this theme (I mean quality videos about table tennis), so keep doing it)
Could you please help me with choosing blade and rover too. I am not a beginner, played a lot, but didn't assemble rackets before. My style is kinda combined: I like defending but quite often do top spins and some attacks. So I thought to get more attacking forehand and defending backhand, maybe even with thorns. What do you think about that? My budget is around 70-80 dollars :)
Hi Danis and thank you for reaching out! Though this is not my style of play, it would make sense to have a defensive blade, slow and high control rubber on BH, and a fast offensive rubber on the FH. I did some research and the Donic Defplay blade has received a lot of support from defensive players and the bat face is wider for this style of play (the blade is under $40 USD).
Jin Jeon Ping Pong ok, thanks. One more question: do you recommend the rubber on BH with thorns or not, and which, big or small?
@@danisbegishev8377 If you want to block and and attack with the backhand us shorts pimples. If you want to chop and attack with the backhand use long pimples.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thanks a lot. Waiting for the next videos)
@@danisbegishev8377 Thank you Danis! More to come!
How are we supposed to pick the correct beginner rubber? No suggestions?!!
I don't mention brands as to avoid "selling" on my channel. Xiom Vega Europe 1.8mm thickness is one of my favorite beginner BH rubbers as it has good control and is forgiving to minor mistakes. FH rubber that depends on your playing style but DHS hurricane neo 2.0mm for Chinese style or Xiom Vega Pro 1.8mm for Euro style
New player - with descent skills - what do you think about a Donic Persson Power Allround and a FH Juic 999 attack and BH Juic Air Condle?
Could you make a vid on how to brush the ball and produce spin?
Nice video so simple and good i will get tibhar carbon shot and xiom vega europe and xiom musa i was playing when i was a kid i started back 2 years ago i was playing ona xiom 5.5s and it was so slow i tried timo boll black and xiom 7.0 s too
I love Xiom products. I feel that they are underrated. I think your new setup is a great idea
Hello, I would like some advice. I am a beginner to intermediate player and i would like to know how a 3 ply wood + 2 carbon compare to a 5 ply wood? I play half defensive and half offensive when i can. I am a European style forehand dominant player.
For my first customized racket, i decided to go with 5 ply all wood Palio B-11 blade with Palio 40+ AK47gold forhand rubber and Palio 40+ hadou backhand rubber.
Awesome setup by the way. The amount of control and feeling is increased with the all wood blade. The speed is slower, but that just means you have to work on having great technique.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I prepare to buy stiga offensive classic blade and forehand rubber dhs neo 3 back hand as well is it good choice to make.
This is a good setup. I would play that setup myself. It may be hard to develop the backhand with such a sticky rubber though.
This video was awesome. I dedided to change my old Wakaba 2000 for A Maze performance and 2 Butterfly Roundell soft rubbers¿What do you think? I'd to hear your opinion.
That's a high quality all wood blade. I hear Roundell rubbers often mute the feeling of the ball into the blade but I imagine good technique will make this rubber as playable as any other.
Hi great video! how to revive the tackiness in Hurricane 3 Neo. mine had lost its soul
Thank you very much! Tabletennis11.com sells a table tennis rejuvenator. You can also clean the rubber with tiny drop of dish soap and water, let it dry, and then rub a drop of olive oil on it. Let it sit overnight and that should do the trick. If that doesn't work, nothing will.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks for the info. will try
Very informative. Thank you Jin !
Thank you. You are most welcome
hello is the Terrasphere TS300 Table Tennis Bat and good it is the first bat i have bought
Sorry Simon. I am not familiar with this bat.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis rip... its a 5 ply..
3 ply of poplar and 2 Chinese basswood.
it is also has thick sponge and strong grip however it doesn't stick even though i play the asian style
That sounds like a decent setup on paper!
Hi! I'm considering buying a new racket and wondering if it would be good to buy Xiom omega 7 europe on BH and Vega X or Rakza Z on FH. wich ones are recommended? I like playing with a lot of spin and I am trying to develop more consistency and speed. I am beginner to intermediate and would love to get some feedback!
This is a good setup. Hope this worked out well for you. Make sure the FH rubber is 2mm and the BH is 1.8. These are good thicknesses for speed and control
I am an intermediate player who wants to create my first custom-made paddle. I want to play defensively hitting mostly slices on my backhand and forehand. Any recommendations?
Hello! I am glad to hear you're getting into the game. Use long pips on the backhand and checkout victas inverted rubbers for the forehand. Best of luck!
Hello, which rubber thickness for a beginner of 10 year? I’m going with Yasaka sweden extra with Yasaka Mark V on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH, thank you!
Do you mean that you are 10 years old? I recommend 1.8mm
Love the video! The amount of choices is overwhelming but with your help it narrows it down a lot. What do you think of the Stiga Infinity VPS? i have been training 2 times a week for six months and my coach recommended a get a faster blade. I want to learn to play with chinese styles rubbers, tacky and hard sponges
Did you buy the infinity?
@@Counterstrikeforce Hi! Yeah got around October and paired it with Nittaku H3 Blue and a Fastarc G1. It has been a blast, it definitely takes more discipline and time to play Chinese style but I am seeing the results now, can't be lazy and technique has to be on point
Hello,
what would you recommend for a player stuck in the lowest league with 1100 TTR Points in Germany?
A yasaka sweeden extra or xiom offensive s?
And what rubber? xiom vega europe or bluestorm z3 for the backhand and for the forehand vega pro, mark v or friednship bloom power?
I am sick of losing i hope you can help me.
I am 27 years by the way
Hello! I definitely recommend the Sweden Extra. Better feeling and more control. Any of those rubbers will work fine, but for the most control I would do Vega Europe on the BH and Mark V or DHS H3 Neo on FH. Thanks for reaching out. I wish you the best of luck!
Hey Jin Jeon what sort of sponge thickness should the rubbers have for the forehand and backhand
Hello! It really depends. If you are a beginner make sure the sponge is 2.0 or less on both forehand and backhand. Typically forehand is thicker of the 2 because you can generate more power from that side.
Really well explained. Great video!
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Im thinking to get the stiga allround classic with butterfly flextra rubber on both sides
Anthony. Great choice. That’s a high control setup. I played that same blade for a while. I enjoyed it but found that the blade had a muted kind of feeling.
The best video i have seen on the subject, thank you.
Can i get your pro help to custom my first paddle? To many rubbers, so much confusion :(
I am glad to help. How long have you been playing, what is your play style, and what would you rate your level of control on both BH and FH sides?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thank you Jin.
I am 55, playing around a year now, returned to play after about 35-40 yrs.
So i am not novice, but maybe a beginner-intermediate player.
I am playing now with a premade 5* 729 paddle, which was fine at the start but now feels a bit slow- good control but relatively low spin and speed. I do love the the control aspect, but the lack of the others does interfere when i play with advanced players.
My style is european i suppose although not sure yet.
For now i feel i have more control with my BH, although my FH is not bad either. I also love playing an aggressive defense when needed :)
Sorry if that's to long. Appreciate your response and help very much
I like the idea of you playing a slightly faster setup to allow faster active blocking. In this case I would go with a 5-ply all-wood offensive minus to offensive regular rated blade. Most large brands have a blade of this style so pick your favorite. As for rubbers I like Rozena, Bluefire m2, rasanter R42, and Xiom Vega Europe around 1.8mm thickness on backhand. For forehand I recommend tenergy05, viom vega pro, bluefire m1, or any medium hard tensor rubber in 1.8mm. If you would like more speed then step up the thickness to 2mm
@@Technical.Table.Tennis 💖 we'll do
Thank you so much
@@Technical.Table.Tennis One last q: what is the difference bet. 5 ply to 7 ply wood...?
The best video, great explanation.
Thank you for watching Panapong Chansopa.
Nice video
Can help to share European tensor soft sponge rubber in market?
Thank you. We really like Xiom Vega Europe, , Donic Bluefire M3 ,Yasaka Fastarc C1, Tenergy 05fx, and Butterfly Rozena, and the list goes on.
, but any soft tensor rubber from the top brands will do
Sir ur videos very helpful for me
Sir i play play tt regularly from 6 months
I want to buy my first custom made racket
I choose stiga all round classic blade
With mark 5 with both sides. It is good combination for me plz suggest me
I’m glad to help! It is a great choice. The MarkV rubber is a little outdated, but is still very playable!
Hey Jin Jeon. First of, really helpful video! For my dad's birthday, I want to buy him a proper racquet, but I don't want to spend too much money. He plays with shakehand grip and prefers forehand. After scrolling through the comments and your advices I want to buy a Yasaka Sweden Extra FL, but I'm not sure about the rubbers yet. I'm considering the Friendship 729 on both sides, maybe a thicker version on the forehand side. It's cheap and has many good reviews. What do you think? Is it a good option?
Edit: Actually I think that rubber is a chinese rubber, right? Can you recommend any good european rubbers for BH and FH in the same price class?
DHS hurricane 3 for forehand, gold arc 8 for backhand. trust me
Hi. I’m an 1800 ish long pips attacker and play with 05 thick sponge tenergy on a jo se hoek blade. What would you recommend for my forehand if I am to take the next step to get to 2000. I play to get better, technically. I feel that I’m not good enough to play the tenergy.
Hi Jin Jeon! Thanks for the video. I am looking for a control equipment. I have an andro Wano Midori and FH GEWO HYPE EL. I want control in my game and I enjoy spinning Do you think is it a good idea for instance a tackiness rubber as Butterfly shop II or is it better to get for example Tibhart Aurus sound for BH? Thanks in advanced!
(I don´t want to use long or short pimps)
Gewo Nano S Speed Control for BH?
Hi Jose,
Both rubbers you mentioned have a lot of spin, but they also have a lot of speed. This means control will be low. Try to find a backhand rubber with a lower speed rating. Try looking into the Donic line. They make some of my favorite BH rubbers.
At the end I bought rasanter R37 + hexer sfx grip on a control blade Donic impuls 6.5 Do you think it's ok?
@@JOSEANTONIOHERMES You made a great choice!!! They are both soft and controllable. I assume you are using the Hexer on forehand?
hi .thanks for your video. what is your recommendation for beginner player ? blade and rubber that is somehow sticky .can you tell me those names ?
Thank you for watching. Hope you are still playing. Sticky rubbers: Hurricane H3, Yasaka Rakza Z and Palio rubbers could be manageable. As for the blade, go for any 5 ply all wood blade that is rated offensive - to Allround
Hello Jin, what kind of blade and rubbers you use in these videos ? Thank you
Hi Sandor. I use the Xiom Offensive S, Yasaka Razka 2.0 on backhand, and DHS Hurricane 3 Neo 2.15 on forehand. Be sure to subscribe! Thank you!
Thank you for the quick reply. Great channel
Does the 5 ply and sticky rubber also apply to penhold? Thanks! Also, I only need to put on 1 rubber side, right?
Hi Clifford. What style of penhold are you playing? C-pen, and J-pen typically only have one side while the more modern and advanced RPB style plays with both sides (think penholder's like Ma Lin and Xu Xin). I would recommend playing RPB in today's modern game because it allows you to topspin from the backhand and forehand.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks for the swift and detailed reply, I am still finding the most comfortable position for my fingers, i like to curve them most of the time. And since i only play casually, i haven't tried rpb at all, so i guess that would be traditional cpen.
In that case, you only need rubber on the forehand side. Some people put sand paper or colored sheets on the backhand for aesthetics, but it is not necessary
Hi Sir, very informative video. Even though I am playing TT since 4 years, I am still beginner in this case. My dealer had given me few options and I am totally confused. What would you suggest. Thanks in advance.
The options are
Backhand rubber
Rakza 7
Good spin with nice speed
Forehand rubber
Andro rasanter r42/r47
Bluefire m2
Mxs
M2 is my recommendation
Nice spin with control
Blades
Tibhar stratus power carbon
Stiga carbonado 145
Timo boll alc
Viscaria
Thank you jin . Very nice video. I m am intermediate level player who plays in a local club. Can you please suggest a few nontensor rubbers for forehand and back hand for me. It's going to be my first custom racket and I need alot of control please.
There are so many brands out there and rubbers and u don't know which one to choose. Can you please help
You're welcome! So many people I know stand by Yasaka Mark V. It's old school, but provides the right amount of grip and speed for someone looking for control
I haven't purchased it yet for beginners for my equipment what are you thought of these setup I'm considering?
Butterfly SK7 classic racquet the rubber front Butterfly Tenergy 05 2.1mm ( Red) and the back BUTTERFLY Tenergy 64 2.1mm (Black) it comes with free glue / assemble service and I added side tape RB protector 12mm
Let me know if this combination is okay if not what else do you suggest? Appreciated your help 😊
Ken. This should be fine, but you may find the Tenergy slightly fast. Let me know how playing with it has been for you
Nice video! Do you know anywhere which sells the rubber, for less than $50. Everything I find is just so expensive.
Try tabletennis11.com I hope this helps!
Wow that was really help full thanks
Great video, I’m looking to go with the joola classic all tennis blade, joola max 450 table tennis rubber for backhand, and Joola Dynaryz ACC rubber for forehand. Any thoughts? Also do you know where I could get this setup put together instead of doing it myself?
can you please recommend a cheap set up (chinese style) for a begginer? i need the specifics because i'm totally a newbie.. thank you.. new subscriber here
Hi, do you have a recommended setup for penhold grip? And where can I buy some equipment?
A good friend of mine uses the Yasaka Sweden Extra with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand and Xiom Vega Europe on the backhand. All of these are very affordable. Try tabletennis11.com
as always, thank you for replying and thank you for your recomendation. Keep up the good work.
It’s my pleasure. Happy playing :)
@@asarothasessino12 I live in the Philippines, is there any shipping fee for that?
@@asarothasessino12 nice! Thanks for the reply
im thinking of getting the yasaka sweden extra and Jupiter II for FH, but I can't seem to find a reasonably priced backhand rubber on amazon, any suggestions, bh rubber budget is 15$
I love that blade. Great options for low cost backhand rubbers are made by Yinhe, Friendship, and Palio.
hi, I am using Yasaka sweden extra, Xiom vega x max for forehand and Donic M3 max for my backhand, I have started playing 2 years back. Just passing the beginner level. Do you think weather my setup is good, How long should I continue before moving to next setup and What should actually be my next setup, Please provide your suggestions.
Love to hear it! Your setup can easily support you through the advanced level. I wouldn't change it. Grow with it. Thanks for watching and nice to meet you!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi Jeon, Thanks for that, Just one more question I am using newgy 2055 robot to improve and wondering how should I use my time in training like how much percentage of time on Fh ,bh, drills, irregular ball and other strokes like push, flick etc, Can you share a training plan in this regards, Thanks in advance
I believe that games are inherently irregular and you should spend at least 30% of training on irregular drills, 30% on technique for shots that you lack, 20% on serve practice, and 20% on serve return. Footwork is very important and you should be thoughtful of it during any drill.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Great, Trying to get the best use of the training time I have. This will help, cheers!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I think this is interesting to update my progress during the 3 club matches I played. I won 2 out of 3 but I feel I made too many unforced errors by trying to be aggressive however at the same time it gave me very good points as well so I want to continue my playing style but at the same time reduce the unforced errors what is the best exercise or goal that I can do or achieve with the robot to overcome this deficiency . Thanks in advance and hope you will get time to reply. Cheers
When is it an appropriate time to step up to a carbon blade? I have been playing for around 4-5 years now with a Nittaku Violin (with DHS Hurricane 3 Neo on forehand). I feel like my blade is too flexy when I hit hard and I can't land high quality forehands. I tried my clubmate's viscaria and the speed + spin I was able to generate was crazy. And also felt more controlled in a way.
Viscaria most likely had Tenergy or Dignics both of which generate massive spin with this blade. My friend, as long as you are doing complete strokes and imparting massive spin on the ball, it will hit the table with high consistency. The Violin is a pro level blade, but I will say that the Butterfly Viscaria is the world's most popular carbon blade for a reason. In this case I would urge you to stay with your current blade, perfect topspin with a complete stroke and then move to carbon
Hi ! Thanks for this video. I'm sad to see that you haven't posted for several months ... It won't be my first racket but following your advice I chose a Tibhar Stratus Power Wood (I was hesitant with the Xiom Offensive S), FH Rubber: Rakza Z because i'm boring to boost my H3 Neo, but I don't know what to take on backhand ... Rakza 7/7 soft? or maybe Xiom Vega Asia? ... i'm lost.
TInARC.
Thanks for the video mate, where would be the best place to find these rubbers and blades?
My pleasure! Try Tabletennis11.com
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Awesome, so how do I find the right rubber. What classifications should I be looking at to find the right one for both forehand and backhand. All the names of all the rubbers are confusing.
What style do you want to play?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was thinking more Chinese, a bit more spin and control rather than outright speed. Although eventually I want to get onto something faster
Hey Marcus. Go for DHS H3 Neo on FH and try Yasaka Rigan or Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Basically classic Chinese rubber on FH and a slower euro tensor on BH. Go with an all wood 5-ply allround to allround + blade.
Thnx for the video. What paddle do you recommend for an amateur who uses chinese penhold, and is wanting to improve?
Hmmmmmmm. I would recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra. I believe they make this in C-pen and it has great control! Thank you for watching!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis you are awesome! Thank you very much for your advice, definetly I'll get one. If it is not too much asking, What rubbers will work fine with it?
Keep the good work, cheers!
@@PargusAuriga With C-Pen you really should be playing with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand. The backhand should be something that is controllable and easy to block with like Yasaka Mark V in 1.8 thickness.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks again for the advice!
What Xiom blade you are using, is that a Xiom Offensive S?
That is right!
What is a good website to use to build your bats!?
Do u got any suggestions for a table tennis table for begginners?
A cheap Stiga table will do the job.
18, 20, 25 mm?
18 is sufficient
Hello. If i am a beginner and i want more control and more spin. What preasambled bat do you recomend? I searched this models and i am curios what's your opinion :
Loki k3
palio star 2
timo boll sg 55
reactor corbor
Team butterfly advance
Hello! I highly suggest against premade but I have had experience with the Palio brand and found their quality exceptional
What website do you recommend for buying your paddle and rubber ?
Depends what country you are from
USA
Tabletennis11 from Estonia. Best prices on the web and fast shipping to the USA.
Are there not any pre assembled paddles worth it I saw a nice butterfly one , I am I guess intermediate been playing for years but just now getting lessons and wanting to improve my game
There are a few, but I highly recommend picking out your own rubbers and blade separately. You will get much more performance for the price.
Which one would be better :
Stiga allround classic or yasaka sweden classic?
Would love your recommendations for a good racket setup. I am an amateur and i use reverse penhold grip ,but I prefer a flared grip(it is comfortable) and I am forehand dominant . Also please do include any alternatives for Chinese rubbers. Your help is much appreciated.
PS: Love your videos❤️
Hi Trap! Yasaka Sweden all day. I played that Stiga blade for a week and it had the feeling of a tree trunk. Alternative Chinese rubbers from DHS H3- Palio Hadou and Yinhe 9000 Milky Way are both inexpensive and fairly wonderful to play with. Nice to meet you =).
@@Technical.Table.Tennis also do you have knowledge of European rubbers that are similar to Chinese rubbers (live in india so currently boycotting Chinese goods). Also thank you for the previous reply.
Hello, thanks for the video , also I am looking for a beginner paddle, I was looking over your comments and I was thinking for this setup " Yasaka Sweden extra, Xiom Vega Europe 1.8 on BH, and DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH" . I play european style, what do you think about this dhs h3 neo 2.0 , is good for me (i am a little confuse) ? also may you tell me where i can find this rubber(dhs h3 neo2.0) ? on tabletennis11 is not for 2.0 , i saw just for 2.15
thank you
Welcome Olaru! I love the selection you have made. It was my exact setup about 18 months ago. If you plan to play a European style you should actually do Xiom Vega Europe on both sides! 1.8 is a good thickness if you are a beginner because the thinner sponge will give you even more control.
I wouldn't recommend DHS if your plan is to play European style because the rubber is very sticky and will require full arm loops with a Chinese technique, while the less sticky Xiom Vega Europe will allow a shorter stroke while still generating sufficient spin and power.
I hope this helps!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks for advise, I will pick from tt11 a complete paddle, do you think is ok or not to choose 'Blade Lacquering" ?
I always lacquer the blade to protect it from splintering when replacing rubbers in the future. It is nearly impossible to feel a difference with or without it.
i got a timo boll 3000 as a started paddle is it ok? i think is kind slow but efficent