Boba Fett is NOT wearing Jangos Armor
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- Опубликовано: 19 мар 2023
- Today i want to discuss my theory on why Boba is not wearing a repainted version of Jangos silver and blue armor, which many fans tend to believe after The Mandalorian Season 2.
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seriously doubt Boba Fett blew up his father's helmet in the Clone Wars. First off, the Mandalorian Iron would not have exploded like that. Second off, it was a cherished possession. It was most definitely a replica.
Beskar is not indestructible, just extremely resistant. And an explosion directly on or in the helmet would of course destroy it.
@@DeltaArc1136Although, for what I’ve seen, Din Djarin’s pure-beskar armor has had no dent or crack near explosions from S1, nor did it yield to the intense pressure of a rancor bite.
The explosion of the helmet would really need to have a very strong thermal capacity to melt and destroy the helmet apart in a matter of seconds, almost hotter than a lightsaber. But with that, Anakin and Mace would’ve been obliterated along with any debris in the way, as much as the helmet being totally destroyed instead of a half chunk remaining.
If anything, unless suspiciously escaping among the fire, Moff Gideon is proof of this since he and his armor weren’t seen again after the massive explosion of season 3
Same, the helmet used in the bombing I always just assumed was a mock-up specifically made to be a bomb casing.
@@valthenvega2434 I feel like the Mandalorian show made Beskar way more powerful than it was before
This is just as plausible.
There was a comic that said it one point he wanted to serve the same mandalorians his father did and became a grunt and had his armor painted the way it was. But he also got married during that time and his commander raped his wife. Boba killed him and burnt down that organization. His wife left him because he was a mandalorian outcast. But he wears the symbols and armor colors as a reminder. That's also why when jabba gives leia to him in rotj he treats her with respect. He protects her from rape and gives her his bed. Boba fett is the true goat.
Rape doesn't exist in Disney Star Wars.
@@jollygoodfellow3957... Disney have raped and bastardized alot of Star Wars.
What the fuck
@@jollygoodfellow3957 Rape and sex slaves are mentioned multiple times in Lords of the Sith
@jollygoodfellow3957 Um, yeah, it is? Just because it isn't mentioned much doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
For years I always believed that Boba Fett was wearing Jango Fett's Civil War armour because not only do they both share the same colours and "thinner looks." But also it explains the weathered and worn-out look that the armour has during the Original Trilogy when we first meet Boba Fett.
Lucas literally said that it is, its in Jango's armor featurette
Lucas alsp said that Kenobi never left Tatooine until ANH, yet disney made Kenobi show.
@@mrzirak792disney also said it was jango’s armor in the book of boba fett
He also said stormtroopers were Clones. Sooooo. What's your point
@@MatchstickMan Stormtroopers were clones, initially. By the time we see them in ANH it had been 20 years since ROTS, the vast majority had gotten old/killed and replaced by normal conscripts.
They aged twice as fast
I was always under the impression that Boba's armor was Jaster Mereel's armor that Jango had kept.
Exactly, and that's why it bares the journeyman protecter badge!
Would be cool if boba referenced his experience working with Darth vader in the series
what bothers me is that almost no one recognizes boba fett in mando season 2. shouldnt they be like “fett? youre alive?!"
@@TwinEnginesOfDestruction Yeah, in legends Fett had to Clean Up after bounty hunters trying to make a profit off of his Rep. Which in the hunter community was a Big No No.
In a few novels, Mandoes or run of the mill hunters wearing green were started to be call Fett cause they got the job done without causing collateral damage.
There was a side story of some background C plot characters over a few novels. Of a knock off Fett and dark Jedi would be Vader leading a few ships of storm troopers hitting crime lords warehouses. Creating a new wave of imperial support.
Boba Fett came across the group by accident facing off Princess Leia Solo. He was bemused that a want a be Sith Lord and sixty armor men were afraid of one woman rumored to be Darth Vader's daughter trying to make sure not to provoke her into attacking them. . well she has made a rep for herself with a blaster.
Besides there are plays and dinners putting of shows of Leia strangling Jaba with a chain.
Personally, I would like a Jango Fett movie (basically based on the bounty hunter game haha).
Or at least a Mini-series
So regardless he’s wearing jangos armor😂😂
darth vaders saber is a different hilt in rotj than in all the og trilogies. Along with lukes blue light saber being different aswell. They made visual chamges in the prequals that are nothing more than visual and do not have a canon explanation
It’s explained that obi wan modified anakins blue lightsaber to be more suited for Luke since it had certain modifications that Anakin made as a knight that Luke would find difficult as a beginner. That’s why the grip and the hilt were changed.
How was vader's hilt different in rotj?
I can agree with this. If I may add a little to it. The second armor Jango got that became silver and blue. It may have been Jastet's armor who was passed to him.
I wish they explained the Mandalorian civil wars more. In canon we only had two sides. The new mandalorians and Death watch.
Open season had those 2 plut the true mandalorians. Yet The Mandalorian implied there were even more factions to which I belive Jango belong.
My guess is that the true slipt was the peaceful new mandalorians and warrior clans The Watch who in turned had different factions:Death watch, children of the watch and what ever group Jango belonged to. Yet in both clone wars and rebels we are only introduced to Death Watch mandalorians.
Excellent points
I think it's possible that he had several suits of armor. A mixture of pieces he accumulated over time. I think when Fett was younger in legends , he possibly used a suit from jaster mereel when he was a journeyman and used his name as an alias (esb). Also, Jango's early set during the mandalorian civil war (rotj).
I think it's possible that he could have used jangos silver and blue in his early career and retired it make his own suit. To have it restored and kept in honor of him. Rarely using it.
3:57
Really ? How do you explain the orbital bombardment on the Razor Crest , and the Beskar staff as not a single dent ?
I don't get why this theory is so popular when the comic that is heavily referenced also shows it was repainted silver and blue by the thief. So if it was clearly repainted then why believe there were 2 sets of armor? I personally think it's the same armor with the exception of the helmet which was either replaced or repaired after used in the attempted assassination of Mace.
the part where your saying that the armour is an older 1 from jango grunt days make valid sense and remember jango would end up with 3 armour his biological father was a journey man protector n they wear bescar also so that's 1 plus his personal 1 before jastor died n then jastors own armour
3:55 because it is durasteel, not beskar
This used to be true in Legends but thanks to Disney tampering with Canon it was made beskar. Especially when worn by Cob Vanth and reflected a blaster bolt to the chest and Boba confirming that while he wasn't Mandalorian his father definitely was.
@@EagleLeader1 durasteel is strong enough to tank a blaster bolt. in canon it was actually still durasteel (in the new visual dictionary), but was contradicted by TBOBF's retcon of it being beskar instead. you have a legends pfp so you should know that legends had the original and best lore
@@fizzy4877 not trying to be confrontational so please don't read what I say next in that tone. Where or when was Durasteel strong enough in either Legends or Canon to deflect Blasterbolts? Only other deflection I can think of was Phasma's helmet but I'm not sure what material her armor is.
Interesting if it is still listed as Durasteel even in the latest Visual Dictionary. I have seen it listed as Durasteel in the old dictionaries. But even I would credit this to be the usual sloppiness of the Disney's Story Team as they screw up all the time.
Yes my pic is Legends and I still absolutely love the game's story and wish it remains Canon. His healthbar was weak in that game even if it was meant to be super tough, then again that could just be game mechanics. However, overall I'm sorta divided. I grew up with Legends and obviously respect and love most of it. However there were a few neat things that Disney Canon added that I preferred. Lately Disney has been screwing up everything to the point that I'm looking back at Legends fondly.
So now I consider myself a 'head canon' guy. If one side has the better story it's canon for me. So Bounty Hunter from the Legends game is head canon for me. Example of the opposite is I absolutely prefer the Disney Canon Imperial Palace over the pyramid or skyscraper Palace of Legends. I just think it's so delightfully evil to convert the Jedi Temple into the Sith Palace. Ultimate middle finger to the Jedi Order.
@@EagleLeader1 durasteel is strong enough to absorb blaster bolts, durasteel is the stuff used in starfighter hulls, and we see that on both jango and boba's durasteel armor there are dents on the durasteel meaning that its stopped bolts. also in the boba fett books, boba is able to take hits from some blaster bolts.
and iirc, the comics show him being fine when hes shot, i think, i gotta read them again
Also keep in mind that as sets of armor get handed down, they also get reforged to fit the new user. So it's possible Boba simple melted down Jango's armor and reforged it to his needs
Dave Filoni said we would have seen how the green armor was made, were the green yellow and red came from. I’m guessing he mined for some of the armor, while the rest of it was bits and pieces off of, Mauls mando super commandos. The jango fett helmet piece that Mace picked up was probably fused with more beskar to form boba’s helmet. I think the green armor was made to look like Jasters, but I thimk Boba’s fetts armor is mode of several different pieces. I think he pieced his fathers armor together during the canceled clone wars arc, finding the armor pieces from from people that knew his father, like retired bounty hunters. Cad Bane himself had mando gauntlets.
Sabine Wren's armor was passed down to her, BUT.... She personally re-forged it to her liking.
Perhaps it is the same Beskar but was forged into new pieces.
Chunk gone off the original helmet, reforged with the material from the tassets (leg armor)
Sounds like a pretty damn solid theory to me. Cheers, bro.
Unsupported. Legends is not Canon.
I fully disagree with this because multiple times in Star Wars. It was mentioned that it was his father‘s armor. no helmet I’m not too sure about because in the clone show it was blown up as a trap for mace and Anakin
I agree. Jango obviously would have had a full kit stashed away for his son to wear, fully intending to still be alive into Boba's adulthood.
That spare kit was from Jango's old days with Jaster's faction so that's why it is shares the color scheme. I also think it highly likely that Jango would have taught Boba about the civil war against Death Watch and would have respected his father's wish for Boba to carry that sigils of his lost heritage.
This also might explain why Boba never bothers to defend "being Mandalorian" because he knows these Mandos he's running into are basically descendants of Death Watch, so his father's factions ideas of what made a Mandalorian wouldn't match theirs anyway.
Rather than deal with circular "you're not a real Mando" arguments He just bypasses it altogether.
"Never said I was [what you call Mandalorian]"
"I owe my allegiance to no one"
[None of your tribal squabbles mean anything to me]
Instead he just goes for right by inheritance and the willingness to fight for it.
this is a great theory for something that’s ate at me for so long
I always figured the top coat rusted and that’s why it turned green lol
Okay, Jaster Mereel appearing in the chain code is all the confirmation I need. I believe this is canon.
3:51 i didn’t notice the prominent dent in the top of helmet that Boba supposedly happened after Boba began to wear the armor. In the unfinished episode (probably not canon) of The Clone Wars where Boba and Cad Bane have a duel. This episode takes place before Boba was an adult, and that dent was not present when Mace Windu decapitated Jango. So this is a continuity error.
Dent was present in AOTC after Jango banged his head escaping from Kenobi after their fight. You can clearly see it in the movie
What kinda bothered me is the fact it was so easy for Boba to dispose of Jango's old helmet, when the former seems to be sentimental type
I think you're right. As far as canon tho... idk
I think bobas jet pack is jangos from geonosis but it’s been repaired and modded so that’s why it still malfunctions in episode VI
I believe that older Boba is using his father body’s armour. But that he did destroy his dad helmet, during the clone wars. So either the helmet is a spare one he had or it’s simply another Mandalorian helmet.
What tipped you off, the fact that the design of the armor is completely different?
Boba and aurra rig jangos helmet as a bomb to kill mace in clone wars
I completely agree with u on this theory and believe that boba’s armor is a completely different set then jango’s,Because if u look at the jet pack in the empire strikes boba’s armor has several differences then that of jango’s,for example his chest plate has a cut out and boba has that device.also on his helmet there’s a bolt in the bottom left half.And in regards to his fathers helmet I feel like boba loves his father to much to blow up his own helmet because in attack of the clones he presses the helmet to his head to remember his armor.so in conclusion I’m just gonna say that boba buried his father with his full armor just putting is head in the helmet or the helmet on top of him.and later got a similar helmet and from killing another mando or just buying one.Because if u look at jango’s helmet in the clone wars it looks like boba shot the helmet and the blue paint looks painted.
And for the jet pack,In the empire strikes back boba’s jet pack is a faded blue but like u said jango’s blew up so it can’t be his boba uses.
Never understood why boba would blow up jangos helmet, also isn't jangos helmet made out of beskar
The helmet he blew up was from deathwatch, and the same suit was used in both trilogies. So I'm sticking with it's his father's armor, just repainted.
I really enjoyed this video! You gave us great insight and information that I really appreciate and found interesting. Plus it does explain why Jango’s silver and blue helmet is even shaped differently than Boba’s. I’ve always wondered about that.
The armor boba fett had was dura-steel not beskar as it was already mined to exhaustion and few to no mandalorians had actual beskar armor anymore.
Full disclosure: I built a 501st-approved Boba Fett ROTJ suit so I paid attention to the details.
I am curious on your take on the differences in jetpacks. I know that between ESB (green) & ROTJ (blue/red/yellow/white) the new comics have Boba stopping off because Han is “melting” and he needs to get him fixed else he will die. During that stopover he fights as “Jango” in an all-black painted suit which apparently can easily wash off. The change from green to multicolor between the two. Interestingly though, Cobb Vanth has the multicolor jetpack which is also seen in The Mandalorian/The Tragedy. I can only assume that Boba repaints it green when he restores his armor.
this makes sense
So jangos armor is still buried in a dusty cave on genosis, Or did i miss something? Also the leg armor is likely to have been stolen from boba fett when he was less experiensed and perhaps got inprisoned.
I could see maybe Boba using a replica of his father's for the trap. And keep the real armor locked away. However I really do love your video. Very well done. And the theory is a really damned good one. I've liked and subscribed. Keep up the good work
Excellent Work Foundling. THIS IS THE WAY
Then why do they have the exact same dent in the helmet? 😂😂
Jango's dent is slightly more on the top and is less of a circle. It is a weird choice to put it so close tho. I guess its possible it was supposed to be the same dent, but when when see Boba in Empire, the dent isn't painted which suggests it happened while the armor was green (which coincides with the unfinished Clone Wars Episode). But yea I personally think it's probably supposed to be Jango's armor either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mando armor seems to be modular, pieces are damaged, I would imagine Jango had spares from over the years. Stuff gets repaired, repainted. Etc.
Personally I like your theory but another thing I could think about is maybe jango just had a set of armor prepared for boba since he was a kid (but obviously they’d be the same size grown up)
Why is there yellow paint under the green paint on basically every figure of Boba? Where did the yellow come from? The animated part of the holiday special?
I think you researched that well. Thank you for the detailed--but not overly technical--history.
You can also lean about the backstory to bobas armor while reading the boba fett books they made back in the 2000s
This makes sense. So it is Jango’s just not the one we thought it was.
What I remember in some comics I believe is that he wore his fathers armor for some time but feeling like he was feeding off his father’s reputation and just coping him he decides to reforge the armor for himself which is why his armor is different than his fathers while still being the same. Being painted in the colors of a young Jangos armor when he was a mandalorian warrior along side Jaster Mareel.
It must be that the helmet blown up was a replica, because Boba Fett's helmet has the same dent as Jango.
In fairness, there are changes to Fett's armor between Empire and Jedi as well. Seems to me I heard that this wasn't just an oversight, it was done intentionally to show the armor as a WIP that Boba was always improving upon. I do like the idea that Boba would have chosen his basic look based on that of his father. By the time of the Mandalorian/Book of, Boba still chooses that style over the Jango armor style we saw in AOTC, so maybe he doesn't feel his skills have earned that rank yet?
In Legends, beskar, ships, and art were the mandalorians' main exports to the point that the hippy mandalorians got pissed at the warrior mandalorians because they went off to play merc and made only a small fraction, and they wound up leaving classified technology all over the battlefield when they died. Like they would sell base line armor made of beskar, but stuff like their software and the cool wrist shit was considered military secrets thay fortunately for the galaxy, the empire was never able to understand
According to the chain codes, embedded in the armor, it’s the same armor.
I like this theory
I like your theory. Thanks!
I think your right. It's an older version of Jango Fetts armor.
BTW, the comic miniseries from Dark Horse Comics that you mentioned was good. I recommend it to anyone who isn't too caught up in the new Disney canon. Like the video commented, it seems that in regard to the Fetts Lucasfilm is attempting to blend the two story canons.
The problem here is that armor can be reforged and modified over time also I'm sure Boba recovered some of the shards of the helmet along with the thigh and greeves there is enough material to make a new helmet. The Armorer likely isn't the only person that can forge beskar and Boba was very well off. The only part that really matters is the chain code attached to the armor which is how armored is traced.
Your theory sounds good to me, based on the pieces we see get destroyed. 👍🏼
Anakin was aprehended by jango in the droid factory. Obi wan would have probably told him everything that happened on kamino. Clone wars is making a bit of a stretch trying to say anakin doesnt know who jango or boba was.
Clearly different. I think ur right, it was Jango's older armor
Boba literally explained it in “The Mandalorian.”
In my head cannon, Boba reformed the leg pieces to make a new helmet.
This, in my opinion, is NOT Jango's armor. Jango NEVER had hand plates
Boba literally said it’s his father’s armor.
We know for a fact beskar can be reforged Sabine says this in rebels the helmet could have been reforged into a new helmet from the very same beskar jangos helmet was made of every canon piece of material we have says it’s the same armor so it is the same armor
Didn't Boba literally say it was his father's armor in the Mandalorian? Pretty sure it was when Din was challenging his right to wear Mandalorian armor.
Great video!
Good to know! Great video!
unfortunately current 'canon' says it is...
Jangos helmet blew up in the clone wars
On a side note boba may not follow the mandalorian religion, but he certainly acts and moves like them. So I’d say practicing the mandalorian”way” or not he is mandalorian by birth.
no wonder Boba never forgave Mace
Who doesn’t know this by now
I love Star Wars. I just don't understand the need to explain every in-universe detail. Especially when someone can come along and say "it's no longer cannon".
So i get that boba isnt a mandalorian but didnt they say jango wasnt a mandalorian too? Which he would technically be a foundling (i guess if the comics its legends not cannon but still)
jango was a mandalorian, but it appears at some point, he became disilluisoned with the culture and went off to do his own thing. keep in mind he was taken in by the mando army, which they all ended up killed except for him, losing everyone he knew. after the mandalorian civil wars, mandalore became a pacifist world, outlawing its warrior ways, under the rule of Duchess Satine Kryse(Bo Katans sister), so warriors like jango were no longer welcome in their society. after the clone wars, mandalore tried saying jango wasnt mandalorian but it was just shady politicians saying this(prime minister Almec).
@@TwinEnginesOfDestructioninteresting that he didn't end up with deathwatch or one of the other clans
@@danv4513 well death watch killed his parents, so he killed their leader, tor viszla
@@JunkyardFox ahh i did not know that. You got recommendations for which comics to read
@@TwinEnginesOfDestruction*during the clone wars
The grunt armor works for BF
Boba Fett is my all time favorite as well!
It’s been Modified by the Current wearer!
Likely Jango spare armour
It's probably Jaster's armor
Boba for the longest time did not consider himself a Mandalorian .. where would he have gotten the armor? Killed a random Mando and took it from him? Thats just stupid.
I don't care what the mouse says it is his fathers recolored armor.
Did you even watch the video? It’s explained there
buddy the helmet he blew up is fake jango helmet did not have a dent in it
My Brother loved Boba too 😊
to be fair jango armor isn't bescar it durasteal.
It is a nice therory. However, all legends contenet is not cannon.
This makes sense to me
They refit and repaint to they're needs
It’s clearly not the same armor. At all.
What are you tslking about? Of course it is. Its in the lore Canonically.
Boba literally wears his fathers armor.
Mandalorian says differently. However, i've always thought he had his own armour, which is actually mostly bescar (ulike his father's) he pretty much wanted to complete his fathers legacy, by supporting the ones who were apposed to the jedi, so he got beskar somehow (everything in Star Wars is based on "somehow" deal with it, somehow the rebels got the deathstar plans, somehow, somehow the Stormtroopers miss, jedi can use the force, stfu) because he wanted to have revenge, then order 66 happened and he kinda farted that...
If it wasn't for Boba Fett, I'd have zero interest in Star Wars.
I hate how they degraded boba fett even in his new show,at least back then in the comics and the empire strikes back he was a cool mysterious dangerous force to be reckoned with. And now he’s old and fat and I hate the fact that he doesn’t even have hair anymore at least jango looked sexy skinny and had a bad ass accent.They did by boy boba dirty😭😢
Like... they should have just adapted Twin Engines of Destruction and go episodic from there onward.
Jeez man no respect for the bald… and he ain’t fat, he’s just just bulky, means he’s got a lot of muscle and some fat too. He doesn’t care about looking like some model.
@@chewy99. And yet he's still portrayed as a confused, out of touch boomer with nowhere near enough competence to justify his reputation.
Being partially digested by a Sarlaac is probably hell on hair follicles
@@TheFifthHorseman_Dude crawled out of a damn Sarlacc and had been living in the desert with the natives for who knows how long, and then spent years wandering the same planet. That would change anyone.
He literally said in the Book of Boba Fett that it was his father's armor..... Some people are just stupid and looking for content... Do your research next time, oh and you can't say I'm wrong cause it was literally scripted by filoni 😂😂 🤡 with Lucas's approval 😊🎉 🍻
Old legends is flat out not canon. Let it die, it deserves to. It was garbage.
The helmet getting blown up in TCW is just one of many examples of Filoni not caring about continuity. He will piss on anything just to tell the stories that HE wants to. He’s such an overrated hack.
No shit
You basically used outdated, non-canon comic books and novels to prove Boba Fetts armor isnt the same as his fathers, aside from the fact it's pointless to argue such a thing it also completely undermines the story arc boba went through.
That armor belonged to his father, the only positive role model in his life, his one and only idol. It would make no sense whatsoever for him to use a different set of armor especially since Jango himself told Boba the armor will one day be his.
This video is complete biased garbage lmao 😂
Prove that this book is CANON. Otherwise this video and stance is pointless.
Dumb theory
He might be wearing a skirt if Disney keeps this DEI push going.