Those Blue Fire 🔥 simulated afterburners are Awesome. Just go my first in the mail to install it on my Freewing BAE Hawk. You are definitely pushing that jet to the limit and then sometimes past the limits. Awesome 👏
Nice to see you doing those nice snap cobras and thank you for the shoutout, glad to help! ;) (Although the fact that you entirely release the stick after the fact hurts my feelings!). 😅😅😅
Great Flying, cant wait to try that cobra maneuver! I also run this jet with the SMC 5000 and graphene V2 5300, recently swapped in the Viper motor and ESC and and found I lost TopSpeed, thrust and flight time by 1 min. I put the stock motor and ESC back in and my top speed in a dive was 127 yesterday and 113 in level flight. I get four minutes of useful throttle. I’d love to see what you think with the stock motor and ESC and compare how it flies. It has unlimited climb and will almost hover. Thanks for the content, keep up the great work!
Hey man! That's odd, did you change the timing to 15? I only care about top end speed on some of my models. To the untrained eye, anything past 100 MPH basically looks "fast" no matter what - so chasing after numbers isn't as important to me as performance is across the flight envelope. The reason I went with the Viper motor/ESC combo was to lighten the wing loading because the stock motor is really heavy. Getting rid of the ribbon cables and blue box also brought the flying weight down quite a bit. I've flown this jet on the stock setup and didn't like it at all. It felt sluggish and was way more prone to stalling at lower speeds.
Thanks for the reply, where how and why would I change the timing? Obviously I did not lol, the motor and ESC were pulled directly out of a brand new viper being converted to turbine. The Viper motor and ESC is 100g lighter, I put it on the scale and was amazed at how much lighter it is! This also moved the CG forward. I have to agree with you this is a touchy kind of weird flying jet under some maneuvers, but it is amazing. Rock solid and tons of fun!!!
@@zeektribe Then it was already set to 15 if it came out of a BnF Viper. You may want to work with energy-based aerobatics instead of running the throttle as much. I can get upwards of four to five minutes per flight on my Viper motor setup and it's not lacking for thrust at all.
Yeah, that's because Freewing actually fixed the problems with the 18 they sold instead of discontinuing it. The FMS/EF 18 is just awful. It could have been so much better. Maybe it will be if they rerelease it.
I've flown RCG's centerburner previously, but never the "firey booty" stuff - IMO, that's the worst name I've ever heard for a product in radio control. It makes more sense as a hot sauce name at Tijuana Flats. In comparison to RCG's, what I recall is that it was more expensive, somewhat heavier, and required programming. Some people like that, some don't. It seemed well constructed but definitely on the top end of the price range. 5280's afterburners are lighter and cheaper than RCG's offerings. Like, significantly cheaper. We're talking $49.99 vs $78.50. That's a huge price difference for an entirely cosmetic product. You can't currently program 5280's afterburners, though, so that's a drawback - but I'm not sure it's a $28.50 drawback.
Yes, I have tried all 3 and like 5280 the best. If you order a Gooniac fiery boots he takes a while to ship, like a 2 month turn around. 5280 and RCgeek send them within a week most of the time. Also, RC geek burner does not tap into your existing balance lead, you'll have to order a small separate battery to attach to the burner. For those reasons 5280 is definitely the best way to go. I thank Jon for letting us know about that option.
Also, the RC geek one let's you program the engagement point on throttle with a hit of a button on the controller. But as I said, it still requires a separate battery. This you can work around on the 5280 and Gooniac ones by just using an open channel on your receiver to plug the controller in and you can just change the offset on the channel so the burner comes on at lower or higher throttle to your preference. So again, for these reasons the 5280 systems are the best deal.
@@chiefbd Yes, you're 100% right here. I totally forgot that it requires a separate power lead. On bigger jets with separate BECs, you can actually wire in the BEC to power the afterburner if your BEC kicks out the right voltage. Then again, 8.4v might be too much. The 5280 system is just better overall IMO.
Jon which Avian do you have in there? The 130A? Also i take it from the vid that the tailerons are always set like this? Or are they on a mix u cab switch on/off? That means ill need minimum 7ch RX and plug the elevators straight into the RX and bypass the blue box? Cheers
Yep, the 130 amp. You'll need a separate BEC running off the Avian BEC lead to power the retracts or you'll burn them out. The differential stabilators are always active just as they are in the full scale. I use a 10ch setup on mine. The setup I'm flying is on the tail end of my maiden vid: ruclips.net/video/vgr_EmVDf_8/видео.html
Ive been flying the T-7A 80 and thinking about my next jet.I like maneuverability! Do you think i should get the f-18 or the F-4? I dont know if ive seen you fly a Phantom yet?
Haven't flown the Phantom yet. The Hornet is an expert level jet even if it's nose heavy. Don't get it unless you're absolutely ready for it. The jet is mentally exhausting to fly if you get the CG just right.
You are not performing the correct cobra watch the Russian pilots perform it the cobra does not have any rotation in put it flips up and then flips down
Your flying was spectacular! Gave that jet justice! Congrats on passing the 3k sub threshold!!
Thanks buddy!
Love the camerawork on these vids. Close ups of the plane going by as well as the PIP of the controls. Nice work!
i was more into model trains and cars but after seeing this i want one of those
That was a great RC airshow with that speed demon those gears can take a heavy load landing aircraft carrier style!!
All in all you have demonstrated good flying! 👍
I like to think I'm somewhat competent by this point. Thanks buddy!
13:08 LOL! Yeah, we knew what you meant. Specifying which way you meant "strap on" just made us think of the other way.😅
Nice Jon...enjoy the Holiday 👍👍
Thanks, you too!
Ok Maverick nice flying man.
Haha, thanks buddy!
Nice control Jon
Sweet plane u got it set up awsum
Those Blue Fire 🔥 simulated afterburners are Awesome. Just go my first in the mail to install it on my Freewing BAE Hawk. You are definitely pushing that jet to the limit and then sometimes past the limits. Awesome 👏
Absolutely beautiful! Well done! Man you’ve flown past 3k subs! Congrats!!!
Here's hoping we fly much farther with the upgrade we'll be talking about soon. ;) Thanks man!
@@TwoBrosRC Oh boy can’t wait! Hopefully someday I can reach several thousand subs! Heck yeah no problem Jon!👊
You'll get there - just keep making quality content and engaging thumbnails/titles and people will gravitate toward you.
@@TwoBrosRC Alright I’ll try! Thank you very much!
Can you provide the specifications of the power guide fan, electric transformer and battery used in this aircraft? Thank you for the wonderful flight!
Info is on MotionRC's site.
THANK YOU 😊
13:08 "Nice strap-on" 😂😂😂
Haha, yeah, caught myself there.
Excellent flying Jon!! I really look forward to the great content you put together for us every week😎. Hope you have a great holiday weekend!
Thanks Jay, hope yours is great too!
Afterburner is bad ass
I know AC7 hangar music when I hear it
A man of culture and taste, I see.
Oh yeah, you're right!
Legendary ace combat 7 BG track
My man
Nice to see you doing those nice snap cobras and thank you for the shoutout, glad to help! ;)
(Although the fact that you entirely release the stick after the fact hurts my feelings!). 😅😅😅
I'm sure it's no more offensive than when you see me using my thumbs to do the same thing you expertly pinch off. ;)
@@TwoBrosRC This is objectively worse, I assure you!
@@TwoBrosRC Y u so cruel? U do me hurt like that? CRUELCRUELCRUELCRUEL!
Great Flying, cant wait to try that cobra maneuver! I also run this jet with the SMC 5000 and graphene V2 5300, recently swapped in the Viper motor and ESC and and found I lost TopSpeed, thrust and flight time by 1 min. I put the stock motor and ESC back in and my top speed in a dive was 127 yesterday and 113 in level flight. I get four minutes of useful throttle. I’d love to see what you think with the stock motor and ESC and compare how it flies. It has unlimited climb and will almost hover.
Thanks for the content, keep up the great work!
Hey man! That's odd, did you change the timing to 15? I only care about top end speed on some of my models. To the untrained eye, anything past 100 MPH basically looks "fast" no matter what - so chasing after numbers isn't as important to me as performance is across the flight envelope. The reason I went with the Viper motor/ESC combo was to lighten the wing loading because the stock motor is really heavy. Getting rid of the ribbon cables and blue box also brought the flying weight down quite a bit.
I've flown this jet on the stock setup and didn't like it at all. It felt sluggish and was way more prone to stalling at lower speeds.
Thanks for the reply, where how and why would I change the timing? Obviously I did not lol, the motor and ESC were pulled directly out of a brand new viper being converted to turbine.
The Viper motor and ESC is 100g lighter, I put it on the scale and was amazed at how much lighter it is! This also moved the CG forward.
I have to agree with you this is a touchy kind of weird flying jet under some maneuvers, but it is amazing. Rock solid and tons of fun!!!
@@zeektribe Then it was already set to 15 if it came out of a BnF Viper. You may want to work with energy-based aerobatics instead of running the throttle as much. I can get upwards of four to five minutes per flight on my Viper motor setup and it's not lacking for thrust at all.
Great video and Flying. I wish E-Flite still had a beautiful F-18 in production. Anybody know why they discontinued it?
Because it sucked, most likely. The original 18 is riddled with poor design choices.
@@TwoBrosRC Lol always appreciate your honesty bud. Your Blue Angels F-18 seems like a good flyer though
Yeah, that's because Freewing actually fixed the problems with the 18 they sold instead of discontinuing it. The FMS/EF 18 is just awful. It could have been so much better. Maybe it will be if they rerelease it.
On your setups, would you recommend this f-18 or the 90mm f-22?
Either, but the F/A-18 is a much more difficult bird to fly.
Very good video, as always. Curious do you find this Freewing F/A-18 90mm Hornet as agile and/or docile as the E-flite F-16 Thunderbird 80mm?
Hornets are nowhere near as docile as F-16s.
Last question, how would you compare the skill-level between this F/A-18 90mm and the E-flite F-16 Thunderbird 80mm?
Question: Why did you change the motor? I just bought this plane. Thanks!
To reduce wing loading and improve thrust.
Pros and cons of the 5280's compared with RC Geeks and Fire Booty afterburners?
I've flown RCG's centerburner previously, but never the "firey booty" stuff - IMO, that's the worst name I've ever heard for a product in radio control. It makes more sense as a hot sauce name at Tijuana Flats.
In comparison to RCG's, what I recall is that it was more expensive, somewhat heavier, and required programming. Some people like that, some don't. It seemed well constructed but definitely on the top end of the price range.
5280's afterburners are lighter and cheaper than RCG's offerings. Like, significantly cheaper. We're talking $49.99 vs $78.50. That's a huge price difference for an entirely cosmetic product. You can't currently program 5280's afterburners, though, so that's a drawback - but I'm not sure it's a $28.50 drawback.
Yes, I have tried all 3 and like 5280 the best. If you order a Gooniac fiery boots he takes a while to ship, like a 2 month turn around. 5280 and RCgeek send them within a week most of the time. Also, RC geek burner does not tap into your existing balance lead, you'll have to order a small separate battery to attach to the burner. For those reasons 5280 is definitely the best way to go. I thank Jon for letting us know about that option.
Also, the RC geek one let's you program the engagement point on throttle with a hit of a button on the controller. But as I said, it still requires a separate battery. This you can work around on the 5280 and Gooniac ones by just using an open channel on your receiver to plug the controller in and you can just change the offset on the channel so the burner comes on at lower or higher throttle to your preference. So again, for these reasons the 5280 systems are the best deal.
@@chiefbd Yes, you're 100% right here. I totally forgot that it requires a separate power lead. On bigger jets with separate BECs, you can actually wire in the BEC to power the afterburner if your BEC kicks out the right voltage. Then again, 8.4v might be too much. The 5280 system is just better overall IMO.
Jon which Avian do you have in there? The 130A? Also i take it from the vid that the tailerons are always set like this? Or are they on a mix u cab switch on/off? That means ill need minimum 7ch RX and plug the elevators straight into the RX and bypass the blue box? Cheers
Yep, the 130 amp. You'll need a separate BEC running off the Avian BEC lead to power the retracts or you'll burn them out. The differential stabilators are always active just as they are in the full scale. I use a 10ch setup on mine. The setup I'm flying is on the tail end of my maiden vid: ruclips.net/video/vgr_EmVDf_8/видео.html
What are the batteries called again and where can I buy them?
SMC-racing.com is what you're looking for. Any of the 6s packs they offer will be good to go.
hi, I just bought the f18 with an afterburner light, but I saw yours which has two afterburner lights, can you tell me how you did it? Thank you
We had a bifurcated afterburner unit from the company we were working with
QUINDI non si trova in commercio@@TwoBrosRC
Ive been flying the T-7A 80 and thinking about my next jet.I like maneuverability!
Do you think i should get the f-18 or the F-4? I dont know if ive seen you fly a Phantom yet?
Haven't flown the Phantom yet. The Hornet is an expert level jet even if it's nose heavy. Don't get it unless you're absolutely ready for it. The jet is mentally exhausting to fly if you get the CG just right.
@@TwoBrosRC Feel I'm at the point I can fly anything and hard for me to get any excitement from it.Think I've hit a wall in the hobby.
You should join us on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord to chat about more challenges you can face.
@@TwoBrosRC I joined awhile back when I won one of your contest giveaways.
Is this a more “unstable” plane then others like the f-15,16,22?
Very much so.
@@TwoBrosRC how much does safe select help out ?, does it like to oscillate a lot ?
It's really not a jet you should be flying in SAFE - it can be done, but the way that jet stalls will lead to SAFE destroying it in a crash.
Salve bel video puoi dirmi se il revers è deve essere collegata al canale del gas? Grazie
What?
Hi Jon, is this jet locked in and enjoyable to fly? I’m thinking about a new jet!
It's tricky to fly but very rewarding once you've got it set up right.
Ciao ,puoi dirmi se hai miscelato flap con alettoni? Grazie
Yes.
@@TwoBrosRC quindi hai staccato le connessione e' le hai messo singole , e' poi tramite radio hai fatto la miscelazione? Ciao
I have a question: How do you film this?
Your flying is awesome, keep it up!
With a Sony camcorder. Thanks!
@@TwoBrosRC Have you experimented with a hat cam? I would like to try it with my phone on a cap.
@@Iceman_74 We used to record with a GoPro 10. It'll do if you're starting out, but you need a cameraman to grow a channel.
@@TwoBrosRC Thanks! I think I have domeone to do it.😬😁
I should have listened to my buddy and bought the F/W Instead of the Eflite.
I said the same thing after I bought the 80mm E-flite version too.
@@TwoBrosRC 😂
@@TwoBrosRC I have 2 for sale 😂. No. I didn’t make the same mistake twice. 1 was gifted to me.
@@rcmaniac4561 still for sale?
Brother I’m as big a rc plane geek as anyone else but the gloves are just a bit much lol I’m sorry I had to give you a hard time.
The gloves were to hold on to the transmitter with sweaty hands on a hot summer day.
You are not performing the correct cobra watch the Russian pilots perform it the cobra does not have any rotation in put it flips up and then flips down
A cobra spin is exactly what's performed here.