5 Big Brother Conspiracy Theories
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- As a fan of Big Brother, it can be fun to pick apart controversial moments and ponder if there was foul play involved. Usually it's nothing, but every once in awhile, there's a shocking amount of evidence that builds credibility to the theory. Was Helen actually pushed? Did production force Porsche to open Pandora's Box? Let's find out. Here are 5 conspiracy theories about Big Brother.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 So many questions
00:55 Production FORCED Porsche to open Pandora's Box - BB13
04:50 Eric's name WASN'T in the Veto draw bag - BB8
08:55 Production accidently tipped off Hayden about Annie - BB12
12:01 The BB21 powers were the unused BB20 powers - BB21
13:56 Helen WAS pushed - BB15
16:17 Ending
16:45 What's the clench? 
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The first one is so obviously rigged it hurts… like even the veto comp was something Rachel already won that season 😭🤣
And if she doesn’t open the box, production screws her either way
Lol just give Rachel something to hang onto and she will . I'm surprised they didn't have giant hanging Brendan's for her to hang on.
@@nathans.5911I thought they actually that did at one point?
@JNDReacts Wait I am done was it actually pictures of Brendan hooked up to a foam body she was hugging onto ?! 😳 I'm screaming 😱 😭
@@nathans.5911 I think so, because I remember something awkward about Dani and her dad as well.
Porsche being forced to open the box isn't a conspiracy theory, it's just a fact 😂
Yeah, everyone knows that when the box is there, you don’t have a choice. An HOH in good standing would never want to introduce a twist.
@@aaronsmith4806Exactly. It’s similar to Americas vote ‘offering’ a role to a certain houseguest, they don’t have a choice but to accept lol
@@aaronsmith4806i wouldve said no. And sat criss cross applesauce til they went away
Not being able to leave a room until you do something sounds really like being forced
@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidlynot unless it was a few days long stand off. It wasn’t, she was forcibly pushed to do it but not outright forced to do it. If she had dug her heels in, they’d have had no footage and would’ve had to cave themselves. The issue is what they said to get her to cave because that hurt her game. She could’ve got Rachel out, the person who beat her. She knew opening it was dumb, which means it was something that they said, not the stand-off that made her ruin her game. Kind of seems like they threatened a bad edit because that’s the only way you can lose the winnings and any chance of earning afterwards, which is morally awful. Still didn’t drag her to it and she still had the option to say no, which means she wasn’t forced, it was just incredibly morally questionable for the sake of views. US reality tv is this though, it’s all about the entertainment and not about the people who have to live afterwards. 🙌🏻 Every single one of them signed a contract and its well known that these contracts, for most shows specify that things can be done that alters rules for the sake of entertainment, so she knew it could be coming, doesn’t justify fixing it for 2 past players though. 🤷♀️
For the Saboteur twist they should have set it up where if the Saboteur gets evicted, that person gets to name a new Saboteur. Then production wouldn’t have tipped their hand trying to keep Annie from being nominated, and if she still was nominated and evicted they’d still have a way for the twist to play out.
They did with Regan and it sucked because (another conspiracy theory/rumor) all he did was tell lies from the DR which no one believed and started thinking America was the saboteud because he didn't do anything someone not even in the house couldn't have done. Rumor/conspiracy is Regan turned it down initially and BB basically had to negotiate until they promised he would only ever deliver lies safely from the DR so he wouldn't risk his game. He did do an actual sabotage for his final task where he left a note in someones bed, and he about had a pannic attack doing it. So I honestly think BB went back on their word for the final task. I mean I don't know if anyone has confirmed this, but it made no sense BB when he got the Saboteur only ever had him tell lies in the DR which was the most uninteresting thing he could do and clearly no one was believing it after they had Annie lie and say she escaped the block when she didn't week 1.
I agree with this but than again they did just use the saboteur twist latter with Regan
My favourite conspiracy theory was when in BB15 Julie said "It's pushin time" and pushed Helen
😲oh my GOD, I'll have to rewatch that now !!!!! 😁😁😁, I'm so excited for Big Brother!!!!
Helen was definitely pushed. I remember her being pushed and feeling like that wasn't really fair.
Even though I could not stand her.
I don't remember about Julie saying that. Omg ! How blatant.
Frankie winning the BOB on his own was one of the most obviously rigged moments on the show
zach said in an interview that production delayed the competition and they heard reconstruction after caleb decided to throw and that caleb was originally gonna just yank the chain randomly to make it impossible until production said he had to sit down
Testosterone can make the impossible possible, especially considering Caleb was trying to sabotage Frankie by sitting it out (and was still ultimately rewarded for it by technicality).
@@jlhabitan50 it’s the fact that the comp is easier with one person. Also I think he was told that he couldn’t throw it with Frankie and had to sit out if he wanted to throw it. Which is not the norm with throwing comps and production.
@@jlhabitan50 I dont think testosterone is the word you are searching for, I think you mean adrenaline.
@@giani0929 I heard that Caleb was going to just sit out but when he realized Frankie would be able to do it on his own, he wanted to participate but was told by production he couldnt change his mind
7:05 I've listened to Evel Dick talk on his podcast about how production got mad at him when he tried to investigate the bag containing all the names, and he had to stop.
So, actually, that theory is still perfectly plausible.
I knew Porsche in person and she told me they kept her up in the room for hours and said things like “it could be more money or a car” and would not let her out until she said yes
@@amandak.4246 False imprisonment? Thats kinda a stretch eh? Did you say the same thing about Dans solidary confinement?
Sadly it's within the contract technically. They are obliged to accept any twist thrown at them. So since she technically accept, no matter how coerced, it's in the contract. @@amandak.4246
@@amandak.4246it’s their show, they sign contracts not to speak about xyz that could tarnish the shows reputation. They also line these guys up to go on other shows, so they could easily retract that phone call and your tv career is over.
@@andrewnelson21 You don't understand contracts, do you? 🙄
This has nothing to do with my coment@@ninedaysjane2466
“Porsche lost an endurance competition with production” is such a funny way of describing that Pandora’s Box decision, but I definitely believe it.
The annoying thing about Eric not being allowed to use the veto since there was no time for a fan vote is that not using the veto is not a no consequence option. Even if he was picked for veto he should’ve just thrown it lol or have production force him to throw it.
I’ve never heard about the Hayden defying production to put up Annie one before but it sounds plausible.
100% those were the unused power apps rebranded.
Helen was pushed 😜
Justice for Helen! They flung her down with such force I'm surprised she survived the fall!!
I love how she said "bye I love you guys" which is totally what someone who's foot was unexpectedly yanked and life changing money was taken from her would have done instantly after being pushed... of course.
This comment took me out 😂😂😂 #justiceforhelen
I’m still not over Corey in bb18 winning that one MacGyver veto in suspiciously quick time like he knew where every clue lead to immediately.
I was just thinking about this one yesterday!
You can clearly see Helen looking down and waiting for a signal to drop. I am assuming they wanted to give her money to drop in order to push Elissa to win. They knew that bringing Helen back would put a huge target on Elissa again. Helen would have been offered money and a NDA for sure. She didn’t fall, she hopped off, and clearly with how strong of a player she was and how badly she wanted it, there is no way she would give up that easily.
She REALLY LOOKED LIKE she jumped down on her own
but justice for helen
Imagine you’re Eric going into BB with a game plan and production just says “no”. I’d quit.
He never went into BB with his own gameplan. They told him from the jump, "If you're going to be a BB houseguest then you have to be Americas Player".... He chose it. He got handsomely compensated for it, i mean anyone would have taken that deal, especially because more likely than not, he wouldn't have been chosen as a houseguest because he would have already known someone was gonna take that offer and he'd have known from the beginning that there was an Americas Player.
Helen stated in 2015 on Twitter I believe that she wasn’t pushed - she could of been paid off though 😅
Helen was pushed, it's a cannon event, no one could have stopped it.
Helen was the best player and she had good relationship with everyone in the house. And she seems strong for that game her falling looks so random
@@MaFeLikEmE well i'd argue that andy was better but in no means am i saying helen wasn;t great
justice for helen
@wizardkumaanimations9984 maybe I just don't like the way he acts 🤷🏻
I wasn't following it when it happen but gurl doesn't seem to fall, but rather jumped off. So being payed of seems likely
Another likely true conspiracy theory is that the 2 hour episode 2 weeks before the finale in BB23 was originally a Triple Eviction, but when production saw that the Cookout was likely going to be the Final 6 of the season they wanted that round to be shown over a full week so they changed course to have a double eviction the week before and then just a double eviction in the 2 hour episode.
yeah cbs also realized why waste a triple eviction on such a dead season
@@billwe5772 So instead they used it on the number 1 season of all time, All Stars 2? Sounds like your theory is spot on.
Why do you think it was a dead season?
@@andrewnelson21cause everyone knew what was gonna happen everyone saids bb16 and bb19 were so predictable so they sucked whereas this was the same just worse cause you knew no way anyone was gonna flip i personally like bb16 and bb19 more bb16 had a way better cast too
About the whole production tipping Hayden off story, Britney confirmed it to be true and that it actually happened to all the houseguests where production tried to dissuade them from voting out Annie and it made everybody want to vote her out
Porsche didn't seem excited about Pandora's box. I don't believe she wanted to choose it.
This is why I stopped watching BB. You can tell production is out of control and want to dictate which way the game goes. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
I remember Dick and Danielle's season. I remember if Dick or Danielle didn't win one of them would be gone. Production put that game in were you had to climb up the ladder of one deep tank and into the other and go and unlock something at the bottom I think?? Dick had talked numerous times over the summer on BB After Dark about all of the scuba diving he did. ( so they totally wanted him to win and made it happen )
Another season they totally had it set up for Jeff Schroeder to win the Clown Shoe comp but he just made a mistake but it was obvious they wanted him to win.
Then in more recent years Taylor was probably set to go home and they did a comp where you had to watch what outfit Julie was wearing and remember what she was/was not wearing. Since Taylor was a stylist it was so obvious they wanted her to win.
I wish production would just stay out of it and let the game play as it would. All these stupid twists all the time, ruin the game play which is way better naturally than what they concoct behind the scenes.
@wendyeskelin8765 see. You can't unsee productions' hands in the game. It makes it bad because it's scripted.
The Porsche one was a clear and obvious case of rigging. Fand and casual viewers watching that season as it aired called out the rigging immediately. The producers were so desperate to have a returning player win that season and I have no idea why because most of the returnees they brought back that season sucked lol.
Helen is one of my favorite players, i want her back for another season
Same
She really was a good player, probably deserved another chance, but with the way 1/3 them acted, it ruined everything for everyone from that season. Has anyone from that season been involved with anything to do with big brother since then? Haven’t heard any. None have been returnees either.
That stupid hamster (Guinea pig?) question from the lost bb season- season 9
Sharon wins season over Sheila, I believe if no hamster question.
@@mpm2010lbcSheila didn't win anything
I just found out that I worked with Annie for the last year and a half and DIDNT KNOW IT WAS HER. And now that I watched this video I just put the pieces together
Where at?
Second…
Also, two things: I obviously don’t know what it’s like to be locked up in a house for weeks on end so I may be talking out of my rear end but I would have told production to go somewhere! (Trying to keep it G, or at least PG here)… If I were Porsche and production pushed or encouraged (allegedly) me to open Pandora’s box, I would have waited it out. Nothing motivates me NOT to do something than when people try to push me to do something…
Also, hashtag Justice for Helen… that was mad sus bro, js…
Not really a conspiracy theory as much as head canon. I partially believe Will started participating in jury discussions because he was worried Dan was taking his place as the face of Big Brother.
I have no evidence of this besides the fact that Will started this the season after Dan’s last time playing, and I’d actually bet on it not being true if I had to guess (it’s not like he was ever jealous of Janelle, who also rivals him for the face of Big Brother), but I choose to believe it anyway because the idea tickles me
I love this idea! Tickled as well 😊
Has anyone every talked about the first comp of Celebrity Big Brother when production obviously saved Omarosa? I forget the exact details, but they made everyone pick a numbered box and then production was like "Omarosa you picked the right box, you're safe for a week!" Like no doubt, whatever box Omarosa picked was the "right box". She was definitely the biggest get of that season and a late addition to the cast, so I know they did not want to risk her going home early.
What baffled me the most about is it Julue Chen pulled out the number, paused, didn't show it to the audience and was all "yep... it's Omarosa's number all right!". I mean you would think they would have told her the number ahead of time and she would have stoof on it so Julie's would have matched. Still would have been suspect but would have been a lot less sketch. Did she forget and step on the wrong number? Did someone get to that number before her? Even BB is usually not THAT transparent.
@@dantheman8103 LOL exactly. just gets worse and worse these days
I recently got into BB and watched 9 regular seasons. I got curious about celebrity edition and started the first season. As soon as I saw this, I turned it off and started to watch a regular season
@@robertussindm LOL
Big Brother is always doing stuff like this, Celebrity or not. Just watch s15-33 of Survivor lolol
I realised that the reason why Production forced Porsche to open Pandora's box was because they already have the veto comp set up. 🤦🏻♂
Porsche's Pandora's Box was the reason I stopped watching Big Brother. lol
I'll keep these shorter than last time:
1. "Forced to open" can be interpreted in so many ways, but I agree completely with what you said, that Porsche lost an endurance comp with the producers in the HOH room haha.
***2. Why does production suck so hard at executing planned twists??? So I went ahead and did the math on Eric's odds of not getting picked for veto until F7 (and he didn't get picked, it was HG choice). Let's just forget about the odds of Eric never being the HOH or an initial nom, therefore playing in the veto, and just focus on the veto draw odds. Starting with week one, there was an 8/11 chance Eric is not picked. This continues in the following fashion: (8/11)x(7/10)x(6/9)x(5/8)x(4/7)x(3/6)x(2/5). Those are his odds of not being picked for the first SEVEN veto draws, which equal out to a 0.024% (repeating) chance, or about 1 in 5000. That math, paired with all of the problems associated with Eric winning the veto, leads me to believe his chip wasn't in the bag. I reject any counters. The bag could have been special in order to not spill, or some explanation like that. ALSO, production could have told him that he won't be playing in vetoes for a while due to his status as America's Player and they all kept that a secret. One way or another, there was NO WAY Eric was conveniently never picked; there was some level of shenanigans. 1 in 5000 chance is too much too ignore.
3. I think you hit all the nails on the head, but it wasn't a huge deal because they just picked Ragan to do it after.
4. Yep, production asleep at the wheel again. But at least we got that smug asshole Jack to embarrass himself yet again. He thought that lame power was such a big deal, but it did less than nothing hahahaha.
5. You and I have talked about this before and although neither of us think Helen was pushed, it's one of the rare things the whole BB community can get behind. But real quick for others, there was no need to push Helen, Judd was way in the lead and was easily going to win this comp. And even IF production wanted her to throw it, they would have found a more convincing time, like when the platform was actually moving or when the balls were being shot at them.
My money is that what would’ve been Eric’s ball in the bag was instead a second Player’s Choice ball; though you’d want to do a tally of all the other draws done that season and compare to see if that statistically makes sense (I have not done that math, lol). As well while later seasons do show people looking at in the draw bag to check the numbers, there could’ve been a season specific rule for the players to not look in the bag for the sake of the twist.
@@PineappleLiar I've been thinking about how they would pull it off...maybe a false bag/layer.. so the total number of "balls" would feel like they were in there 🤷♀️
#justiceforhelen. She is legit one of my fav players, and she is so overlooked. She looked DEAD in the water in the early weeks and made a miraculous comeback during that middle of the night memory game , turned the house around single handedly, and lasted a few more weeks. Would love to see her come back, but I doubt she ever would be invited.
BB13 was rigged and it clearly as day! The duo returned, Veto was the same as the first HOH comp!
Also weird the duo veto wasn't a pairs competition if we are to believe it was legit.
@@dantheman8103 Yes! There clearly wanted to gave Rachel and Jordan the best chance or both be safe!
The Coup has always been a rigged twist to set up for the opposition to gain power (BB 7 & 11)
The rewind button stopped Frankie from ruining Derek’s game (BB16)
Howie voted incorrectly. While he was close with Rachel, Rachel was more voting against Ivette vs pro Maggie. Also his reaction is cut away from when his key is pulled (BB6)
In an effort to avoid bb15 levels of controversy Paloma was pulled from the game (BB24)
The jury battleback that was scheduled to filled the spot for the 14th cast member who dropped right before filming was cancelled due to production wanting to see if the brigade could pull it off. I heard the decision was made post-kristen eviction. (BB12)
Interesting. I've definitely heard the conspiracy about the BB12 battleback but I always heard a slightly different version, that production cancelled it after Hayden revealed too much about the Brigade to Kristen in the goodbye message. (Not saying I believe this, just saying that it is the version that I've heard)
@@HolyAlonditeIf that were true production could have just edited that out of the message. Unless the jurors received full messages from every player in the jury house, and they all knew about this so Kristen would’ve found it weird if she didn’t get hers or one was edited.
I never heard the Howie one before, can you explain to me please?
@@andrewnelson21 there’s a theory that Howie (one of the worst players to make the jury twice in a row) thought in bb6 that they were voting out the loser and not voting for the winner. So he voted for Maggie thinking he was voting her out due to his comments shown in the episode against Maggie, him being tricked by Maggie, the alliances feeling toward Eric and Maggie and fact the his face is cut away from when his key is pulled. Again just speculation!
OOOHHHH Thats juicy. @@raheemfielder-bey998 He is stupid AF so I would buy it to be honest
I think it’s odd that BB has not had a single houseguest return from BB15. It’s clearly the most controversial season to date but then theres Judd, McCrae, Helen, and even Spencer who get short-ended because Aaryn of the Aryan. Dick was way more difficult than Aaryn ever was on a daily basis. I’m not condoning what she said rather than just pointing out that Dick was directly antagonizing where as Aaryn was more passive (excluding the time she flipped the bed over).
You didn’t cover BB10 Ollie having no vetos in his pile of hay in his final pov?
God the BB13 final 6 still makes me mad this day. Weeks 4-7 were so good and that rigged bs just ruined the season. Jordan should’ve been evicted that week.
Im surprised Frankie's solo Battle Of The Block isnt on here. Zach has said publicly that they rebuilt the comp from scratch when Caleb told him he was sitting out, then production forced him to sit when he changed his mind
Dude you have to post more often!! You got me rewatching the competition hacks video 😭😭
Posting twice a week for all of BB25!
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"xyz was pushed" is such a fun catchphase i always use, Helen ate that up ❤❤
BB21 powers is likely correct! Me and my mom thought that when the powers was given in BB21 it sounded like the unused powers form BB20!
They def remade the bb16 battle of the block challenge when Frankie and Caleb were paired up. They didn’t allow Caleb even to compete cause they knew he’d throw, but that comp was so much easier to win as 1 person instead of 2. Also apparently the comp was pushed back a significant amount after Caleb said he’d throw, signaling that they had to remake the comp
Well, the part where they forced Caleb to sit out isn't the whole story.
As we see in the episode, Caleb refuses to play in the comp with Frankie. But when Frankie started doing well, Caleb wanted to re-enter the competition in order to start wildly shaking the chain to make it impossible for Frankie to win.
That's when production stepped in and said that Caleb would not be allowed, as he already chose to sit out the competition. You could say that's rigging, but it's equally fair to say that it was the right decision, as a player who quits a comp shouldn't be allowed to re-enter.
Also, production's job is to make good tv, and Frankie being the underdog of the comp and winning it was good tv.
And yeah, apparently they remade the comp to make it easier for one player, that's a whole other story of rigging.
Watched this while waiting for the cast. Great vid!
the entire situation of the duo twist coming back on bb13 makes my blood boil lmao
love ur vids and my bb obsessed self can’t stop watching. if u ever need a video idea, i’d love to see a video breakdown of the brigade alliance since i did not watch that season!
The porsche Pandora’s box is absolutely crazy to me. Regardless if she was forced into it or not.
You forgot the most obvious one...the guinea pig question in BB9
Remind me what that was?
I think the houseguests used to review all the chips in the bag before the ceremony so I doubt they could have feasibly left Eric out of it
I could be wrong but seemed that started after BB8. Although the feeds go down during the drawing so who knows. Would think tghey would have.
@@dantheman8103 oh maybe yeah. I know Ian has mentioned they all reviewed the chips each time in 14, but not 22.
10:25 - The thing with this Saboteur twist and many other twists in recent years is that producers never seem to always have the foresight that they can fail and backfire on them really badly.
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Every day is Dolphincrash day
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Looool that would be such a BB Production thing to do, push away a potential Nomination to only get them Nominated 😂
Big brother fixes every season. Just like the token black season.
has there been a time where someone didn’t open pandora’s box? i haven’t watched a lot of the early seasons, and i don’t remember seeing clips of anyone successfully not opening it
porche should’ve taken a nap or something while they were bugging her and keeping her in the room LMAO
Pandora's Box was opened every time!
@@Ethanimale wow!!! that’s so interesting, thanks for the response
Have you heard the theory that Willie from BB 14 was a production plant with the intention of him getting expelled all along as a way to get the coaches to play the game
Why did him being expelled need to be the catalyst for that?
feel like BB9 final 4 HOH was one that should have been on the list instead of the Eric Veto one. but other then that, I agree with everything else
To support the BB13 point, the veto comp that saved Rachel and Jorden was the same comp as the week 1 HOH where Rachel already won....
Right, I am not convinced it was rigged for her to lose. I think they gave that question figuring everyone would guess false because why wouldn't they and then saying it was true would hopefully draw some paranoia in a traditionally boring week for the game. Mark suspected it was a trick question obviously and surprised BB by guessing True. BB pannicked a second because if everyone guessed false it ultimately didn't affect the outcome and he threw a monkey wrench in it, but went ahead and let the question stand. I mean it wasn't THAT big of a pause. I know nothing about TV production but could they have added the caption saying "the guenni pigs" in the less than a minute it took from the question to that answer? If so I stand corrected, just don't think BB is that quick on their feet. But an interesting theory.
@@dantheman8103 Well, several things.
1: Whos Mark????
2: It was the last question and Ryan was down 1 point and Sharon was in the lead. Everyone knew that there was only 3 pairs in the house. There was no positives for voting True when everyone else voting that way. So Ryan voted False with nothing to lose but everything to gain. And well you know how it went from there
idk, you're using some weird mental gymnastics to explain how porsche wasn't forced to open pandoras box, but just from the way you are describing it, i disagree. porsche was locked in the Hoh room for what you compared to as a "endurance comp" where she has to outlast production. but it's not a fair competition because production has access to anything they need and the houseguests don't. production could have kept her locked in there for as long as they needed to in order to get the result they wanted and we have no idea when, or if they would ever let up.
it was forced.
Helen wasn't pushed, she threw the comp in a dumb way, it looks so obvious that at one point she thought her odds were so slim that she was just ready to go and leaped off 😂
i just finished watching bb15 for the first time 2 days ago and see helen is on the thumbnail 😂 excited to see what the conspiracy is with that
This is a damn, good ass video man! I'm hooked and I cannot stop watching! Wow, to some of these theories, especially the Hayden one !!!! And OH my GOD, the Helen theory!!!!!!! 🤯
I wish they had Diamond Vetos in play more regularly (only when Veto game is random than physical in a season)
AYEEEE another upload baby!!
oh yeah what was that sam hand motion and power we kept hearing in the re-cap? 😂
That what's the "clench" clip from season 8 at the end of the video is HILARIOUS😂
i think porsche was badgered by production and just gave in to get them off her ass. kind of a shame that in the newer seasons there have been wasted twists and production didn't give the same energy there.
i'm extremely curious about how Eric and Cassie were chosen for those roles
It’s shocking that the HOH in a good position didn’t believe that a twist would be beneficial for her. A twist is always meant to give the person on the bottom a chance to gain power
Justice for Helen!! #HelenWasPushed
Big Brother 13 really is just a frustrating season. I don’t mind Rachel as the winner given how iconic she is, but the sheer amount of factors that worked in her favor that were outside of her control is frustrating. And while some of them don’t bother me much, I completely get Brendon using the veto on Rachel and Jeff getting his oh so glorious karmic eviction is great, it sucks that this was a factor that seemed manufactured by production to keep her around, and that is more problematic 🤦🏻♂️
Helen was definitely pushed. Maybe not physically but probably with money and decided that it wasn't worth staying in the racist house 😂
BB25 cast reveal in 15 minutes🤞
Wonder what BB25 cast will be?
rumors been crazy lol 👀
Why can't we just believe helen when she says she wasn't pushed,
what benefits would she have lying about being pushed.
They are never bringing bb15 back anyway.
Maybe they paid her 😂 jk. Weird tho that they would get rid of her and jot the racist girl to calm controversy so I believe she wasnt pushed
Didn't Hayden nominate Annie because after Brendon won the VETO she was the person that was closest to both him and Rachel ? Even before the competition he was saying that if either Brendon or Rachel got off the block, he would put her up since she was in an alliance with them. I think it's farfetched for production to have anything to do with it...
One thing to note about Helen, though, is that on social media she not only said once that she wasn't pushed--but some time after, she INSISTED on not having been pushed, even though she had no reason to lie because her contract with CBS was already over, so she really could have gotten away with exposing them without any repercussions.
Funny that the Sabateur twist also created the Brigade
As much as Im team Helen was pushed, you can see her feet were raised and Candice's were flat on the platform. She probably lost her balance or strained her legs from standing like that
How on earth has Helen never been brought back in any capacity is beyond belief.
i think it’s bc they try to erase the season from existence
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wow never heard the hayden one but it makes total sense
She was so pushed. I remember seeing that live n was all mad lmao
This is why I stopped watching this show years ago
7:14 😂😂😂 he was trying it !!!
Hellen WASSSS PUSHEDDDDDD 😂
Production told Derek X about The Cookout, and really pushed for him to compete for safety his final week.
There is no way if he was told about the Cookout he wouldn't have played the ROulette challenge, or told Claire he was not using the veto on her if he won because it would leave TIffany vulnerable. (SB was never putting up Tiffany but Tiff had everyone convinced that BS had it out for her among other things). Derrick did say that production hinted he should play for the roultte challenge for immunity which he didn't pick up on, and I have no problem believing that. But there is no way he played the way he did his last week if he was told all about the cookout.
This one makes no sense, Derek X was one of the most beloved houseguests and it would've been even better TV to see him be the last one standing and having The Cookout take him out and not SB. Derek simply played that week badly when he had chances to play for his safety
@@777L777E777 What didn't make sense, BB not being told about the cookout? I mean yeah no denying BB interferes but telling him about an alliance would be a new level even for that show. And obviously if anyone was mad BB didn't tell him well... fans can't complain about production interference if they are only against it when it helps people they don't like.
Has anyone actually asked Helen afterwards about this theory?
when he said the three words that actually matter thought he was gonna say ‘expect the unexpected’ missed opportunity frfr
Helen was ABSOLUTELY .. pushed
Porsche outlasts production & she gets robbed… she was FORCED, in terms of no other choice fr (not physically obviously Ethan😂😂😂) & Helen was touch to go or pushed i’m not blind 😤😭 she wasn’t even struggling ahaha
I agree Porsche got screwed but if they were pressuring her theoretically if she said no long enough they would have eventually had to move on. Although can't blame her for caving most would have.
they seem to rely on timed comps more and more.. obviously the easiest type of comp to rig.
#1 and #2 I think are the most likely to have happened. #1 based on what competition was played for the veto. This was going to be the only way to make sure both Rachel and Jordan were going to survive the week. #2, given the odds, it is very unlikely that Eric would be in the game that long without his name being drawn. As for checking the bag, don't forget, this was only the second season that had a random drawl to pick the rest of the veto players. Seasons 3 and 4, everyone played. 5 and 6, the HOH and nominees picked the other veto players.
Theory #3 is very possible. With how scripted the DRs seem to be, I can totally see production pushing too hard to save one person, that it would tip off other HGs to get rid of said person.
#5 is a toss up, IMO. I think production pushing Helen (or any HG) off the wall, would destroy the show. Now I can see someone being paid off to throw a battle back.
#5 I think stuff like this happens more often than we realize. I would imagine it's easier to recycle unused twists (and sometimes used ones) than it is to come up with complete new ones every year.
PHYSICAL force is not the only kind of force. 🙄
Unfortunately Helen went on an interview to say she was not pushed. I can't remember which one it was but I'm sure the interview is floating somewhere
Hayden was 1/4 of the greatest alliance of time The Bridge! Hayden was smart enough to catch on! So it very likely!
Never heard of the Bridge alliance. 😀
@@iamlost461 Sorry I can’t spell sometimes! But you what I’m taking about?
@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849we know what you’re talking about…”The Brigade”
@@stargazer_stacey7415 Yes! The Brigade in my opinion the greatest alliance in Big Brother history!
Rachel winning is really upsetting
it was iconic
Shelly Moore should have won.
Helen once tweeted to end this debate once and for all and said that she wasn't pushed.
The “Hayden” theory could apply to any player on any season. I feel that production can potentially influence any of the players in the diary room.
Yeah, many people confirmed that they knew they were being backdoored because of the questions productions ask
That's why for example, in Survivor Guatemala it's winner refused to talk strategy in their confessionals, because they knew that while it isn't that production is necesarilly rigging for some people, production does tend to try to influence in their desicion
I remember Spencer Clawson would NEVER tell the D.R. what he was planning to do. He felt like they tried to sway him or would use his vote somehow against him, so he was on to them during his season.
so if helen truly was paid off due to the racism, that’s still mega f’ed up considering she was the recipient, verse the offender :’(
The Sabateur twist was soft asfuckkkk 😂😂
I mean it sucks that the producers try to change how things are going in the house but at the same time it’s a tv show and they have to make it entertaining
1-If you look at the prize distribution payouts I'd argue that this is more of how could you not pick the twist? I think it just so happened that it landed perfectly in the producer's hands that it appears to be a choice.
2-No comment
3-Didn't people come out and confirm this happened?
4-No comment
5-This isn't related to the tip off but moreso to the stage hand within view. If you are going to have stage hands within the same vicinity during the challenge you are going to have people crying foul. I'm sorry but you should have proper measures in place to prevent people from calling you out on it.
Plz do a pt2
(I already have 2.0 and 3.0 made 🤫)
Lets go
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Sam s20 was too pure for this show 😂😂
So I didn’t know about this whole Helen thing and as I looked at the footage to me it looked more like she jumped off and when you see the member walk by it does look like there hand brush by her heels
if this video gets taken down, yall know why 😭
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