[HEATED] "Its not Ange's Fault" | Lee Gunner vs Jords Debate

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

Комментарии • 62

  • @wewayouthere
    @wewayouthere 24 дня назад +15

    If xg meant anything Arsenal would have a trophy

  • @WestCoastKop
    @WestCoastKop 24 дня назад +14

    jords durag on too tight

  • @Jahno71
    @Jahno71 24 дня назад +4

    That Pillock gives us Spurs fans a bad reputation. No wonder we are the most laughed at, most bantered club in world football

  • @jonasc1882
    @jonasc1882 24 дня назад +2

    Ange is the most protected and worst Spurs manager I've seen in a long time

  • @AKRXI
    @AKRXI 24 дня назад +6

    Some spurs fans need to hold it and shut up, we're mid, that's just what it is, stop saying xG or ref didn't send off Caicedo or whatever, just watch the game, Chelsea was all over us, our players are below average, we didn't deserve anything out of that game, make some real changes top to bottom instead of fans having to come up with excuses when this team hasn't won shit in a while

  • @discosebs
    @discosebs 24 дня назад +2

    XG isnt about football. Its about odds for betting. You can use it for football as any other statistic, but really its more for bookies to help set up predictions, just like most statistics. No stat will help with the abstract like "playing in a champions league final", but to call math a buncha bollocks is itself a buncha bollocks.

    • @friendlybane
      @friendlybane 24 дня назад +1

      Modern society in a nutshell. "Anything I don't understand or isn't applicable to me is garbage, especially if it is something scientific."

  • @friendlybane
    @friendlybane 25 дней назад +9

    Of course, these muppets don't understand what xG actually is. xG is a good substitute for an IQ test.

    • @marcwillard
      @marcwillard 24 дня назад

      What is xG in your own words?

    • @marshalkagami
      @marshalkagami 24 дня назад

      XG is a pseudo statistic in football. The concept itself is more of a qualitative metric rather than a quantitative metric. Even The criteria that’s used to measure XG is qualitative and cannot be assessed thru mathematics and probability. It just makes no sense to put a number on something like this.

    • @friendlybane
      @friendlybane 24 дня назад

      @@marcwillard Say you take a shot at goal. The xG of your shot is the probability of you scoring from that position. The probability is calculated as an average of all the outcomes of shots takes from that position by professional players whose data has been recorded in a database.
      So, a decent player will match or be slightly above/below their xG. Good/Great and Bad/Terrible players will be higher and lower. It's an average. It's not meant to be anything else other than an average, that when used alongside other quantitative and qualitative metrics, can help you measure a team's performance.

    • @friendlybane
      @friendlybane 24 дня назад

      @@marshalkagami many sentences and words in your comment, but no actual point made. I don't think you know what xG is, how it's calculated, or what qualitative or quantitative mean. But, this is the internet, where random bums and highly educated professionals are equally confident in their opinions.

    • @marshalkagami
      @marshalkagami 24 дня назад

      @@friendlybane we get it, you were born buffering. XG is not a reliable or even a useful metric. A player’s XG tells me nothing of value about them in any way shape or form. Football isn’t played on a calculator. It is a simple sport made complicated by mutants like you that only comprehend the sport thru an excel spreadsheet.

  • @hassansamura6750
    @hassansamura6750 24 дня назад +3

    Why everyone is sitting there allowing this spurs fan to keep lying? Where the hell did Son cook Caceido? This is the spurs version of AFTV Ty😂

  • @daniellastuart3145
    @daniellastuart3145 24 дня назад +2

    Most Stats are waffle

  • @Neo_Rain146
    @Neo_Rain146 24 дня назад

    When I hear people start babbling about ‘XG’ I know there is a whole lot of copium coming next

  • @michaelcollins2091
    @michaelcollins2091 24 дня назад

    This is why noone has flee gunner on their streams because he tries to make it all about him. Only what he says matters. He is where he belongs with roadman 😂😂😂 BRUV🤦‍♂️

  • @tadiwachimbwanda6175
    @tadiwachimbwanda6175 24 дня назад

    Of course XG has to be generalised man it can't be so specific and that just seems so complicated to come to a point where specific players and games have different variables. Plus form changes and right now Haalands XG wouldn't be the same as start of the season. Mandem need to go school before just rubbishing something because they don't understand it

  • @zikorajoe7093
    @zikorajoe7093 24 дня назад +2

    This Lee guy is a nostalgic bozo, and he’s uneducated on football

  • @DanielCFC95
    @DanielCFC95 24 дня назад +1

    Big ange is a trash tactician

  • @adlad3199
    @adlad3199 24 дня назад

    Lee thinks football is black and white. If football was black and white, Mourinho would still be the best manager in the world. He hates all this inverted nonsense yet Maresca and Slot are probably two of the most tactically flexible coaches and they are at the top.

  • @denty95298
    @denty95298 24 дня назад

    Its alright blaming ange but where do spurs go ftom there?.
    Theyve tried every type of manager going and thats ended woth the manager being sacked.
    The problems at spurs are much higher up than the manager.

  • @stuartblyde
    @stuartblyde 24 дня назад

    Didn't lee use XG when utd played Everton XG is BS and that utd Everton gane is the prime example utds XG 4 kf utds goals wqs clear chances plus the other chances utd had Everton had 1 header at 4.0 and done nothing else.

  • @maxp5422
    @maxp5422 24 дня назад +2

    Lee is a bell end

    • @michaelcooney4754
      @michaelcooney4754 24 дня назад +1

      For been right?

    • @Kurtthompson23
      @Kurtthompson23 24 дня назад

      How

    • @michaelcooney4754
      @michaelcooney4754 24 дня назад +1

      @Kurtthompson23 cause the expected goals is nonsense there's no guarantee you score what you're expected to score

  • @Dakzstars
    @Dakzstars 24 дня назад

    The issue with xg is it would only take into account shots on goal. Like example palmer completely missed his shot so there would be no xg for that

    • @langletprolet8378
      @langletprolet8378 24 дня назад +1

      It does account missed shots

    • @GonzoMFahri
      @GonzoMFahri 24 дня назад +1

      so you don't know what xG is

    • @Dakzstars
      @Dakzstars 23 дня назад

      @@langletprolet8378 it doesn't. I have looked it up

  • @darrelldenton54
    @darrelldenton54 24 дня назад

    whats point having a high xg with shit strikers ! if your frwds aint clutch means uck all .

  • @suesmith3744
    @suesmith3744 24 дня назад

    LEVYOUTENICOUT ANGEOUT

  • @Yumchaday
    @Yumchaday 25 дней назад +10

    Respectfully this conversation is tapt. And lee calling out any coach while his team hosts arteta is madness. Ange is 10 times the coach arteta will ever be and has already won bags of trophies that arteta couldn’t win in any country. Context is key, if you’re suggesting Tottenham’s players are good enough to be higher on the table you’re a clown. They are exactly where they should be. End the stream.

    • @duckers5120
      @duckers5120 25 дней назад +18

      I'm no Arsenal fan by any means, but the idea that Arteta couldn't go win those tinpot trophies in the countries Ange has managed in is beyond ludicrous.

    • @fifty-five6929
      @fifty-five6929 25 дней назад +17

      Sorry you do know Lee hates Arteta right

    • @Yumchaday
      @Yumchaday 25 дней назад +3

      @ the point is we don’t know. He’s never done it. He’s never assembled a team of his own making and won anything. Ange did it in small leagues with lessor players I get it. But I followed it closely being Australian.
      He did it in 3 different countries with 3 very different circumstances. So adapting is what he can do, to suggest otherwise is mindless. Until arteta does it anywhere he can not talk to Ange.
      I’m saying Tottenham are exactly where they should be with a good coach and meady ballers. I’m saying if Ange was coach at Arsenal my guess is he would be 2nd or 3rd. Exactly where they are now. My guess is, if arteta is in charge at Tottenham they are placed 10th or 11th. It’s really not that deep. Is anyone paying attention to the context, have you people seen the team angle is putting out the last 6 games.

    • @Yumchaday
      @Yumchaday 25 дней назад

      @@fifty-five6929 I do, every week since arteta got the job.
      but he also defends his club and while ripping on other coaches without context. And he does it proudly cause his team is high enough up the table to let him have his cake and eat it too. He’s ability to double dip is like nothing I’ve seen in a fan

    • @patman-bp3qg
      @patman-bp3qg 25 дней назад +1

      Tottenham should be higher than Brighton

  • @justlooking1087
    @justlooking1087 24 дня назад

    XG actually does make sense. Of course there are other factors that determine if a high or low percentage chance is converted or not. However, it is a good metric to use. It’s not meant to be 100% correct.

  • @stephenmcguire8545
    @stephenmcguire8545 24 дня назад

    Lee will be back to crying about arsenal there next lose ffs.