@LlamaD2 you should definitely cover this (if you think it’s noteworthy enough of course) as it could be quite useful in ranged DPS. Obviously giving this man, can’t forget that.
This will severly impact the Deterministic Chaos stock market. I hate this gun with a passion but I might even give it a shot after this. Great vid as always!
I think it was when folks rightly complained that if anyone applies 15% Weaken (with a fresh timer), it would replace an existing 30% weaken effect. So at least they fixed it in a way that benefits the players. Instead of overriding the stronger 30% Weaken, the 15% weaken will get its new debuff timer, but maintaining the 30% effect.
Bastión should be merged in the base void titan set, at least have it as an optional barrier, so you could run controlled demo and something else. That would make void titan interesting.
I just found this out yesterday, I tried wings of sacred dawn against witness in a random exsison and you can completely dodge his attacks for the whole damage phase. I used whisper with the new seasonal mods and wings of sacred dawn unironcally cooked. I recommend trying it out. Maybe this could cook with determistic chaos too
hold on, that might be a whisper play right there‽ I don't remember how it works, do you have to constantly re-ads? or can you just float indefinitely?
Or an exotic version of 4th time, where volatile procs produce 3 rounds out of thin air, overflowing the mag, and you can throw a grenade and fire, which will produce a large amount of volatile procs, giving you crazy ammunition for extended fire.
@@jordan95623 well Technically not infinite, as you would only be getting 3 round per volatile shot, which happens every 6th shot, so basically a 50% mag bonus. It’s a slow ass firing gun anyway, so it’ll be perfect for long/semi long firefights, and would actively reduce divinity usage, and actively boast Titan usage in raids and dungeons (as we are terribly under utilized)
This man. This man not only made Deterministic Chaos look good, but saw the sweet poetic opposition its name posed to the Witness's vision of "Finality"
I always had a secret love for this thing, mainly cause I always like using void Titan as a support class, but I always wanted this thing to be in that fantasy a bit more. But this will definitely help with that goal! I will use this knowledge wisely
What I’ve learnt about this channel is that when Duqk calls out something, it has some merit (prime example is attrition orbs on smgs). I took this into the new strike and performed decent enough. I think that it should have been called out that it is intrinsically anti-barrier, and the only heavy with that intrinsic perk. Great video. CORRECTION: thanks to @Bikram for pointing out that Lament exists 😅 it’s one of the two exotics for anti-barrier
It cannot extend tether, nothing can. But I agree, with FTTC catalyst on the horizon and these benefits, it can replace div. Tbh running this for debuff application and healing, then shooting some solar sniper is a pretty good setup as is.
Nice to see a niche use for it. I love this gun's model and tried it first thing after the buff, and was extremely disappointed. It needs more reserves and some kind of reload perk! It's almost good, just needs a little push.
I have a feeling this was a machine gun made for sentinel titan mains everything it does feels like it was made for the void titan kit compared to hunters and warlocks
If it provided a 30% debuff it might actually be worth losing the guardian damage. Maybe on the second weaken burst it provides 30% debuff to keep with the theme of after x hits ramped up things happen
From what I remember, one of aeons mods applies a unique 20% debuff that stacks with weaken by the wearer just dealing precision damage. Combine it and DT together and I believe the resulting debuff is greater than tractor.
@thechunkmaster8794 tractor would still Be better because of swapping. In close range bosses you apply tractor then do special weapon weapon damage. This would make it have a unique function. Divinity gives the same buff, and provides massive crit spot.
It shouldn't do other gun's job to be good tho. Maybe firing a micro missile + FTTC could make it a decent DPS optio, since it's the only Neomuna weapon without the intrinsic perk
@Spinworth the problem is that it is an exotic that deals terrible damage. Like a vorpal blue machine gun will out damage it. So fttc will increase total damage, but it still will not have a niche. But it might be worth using if it gave a 30% debuff. It would not suppress, like tractor does, and it would be a commitment weapon to extend the debuff. It would be good on long range bosses like the witness, WR final boss, and ghosts of the deep final boss. But in instances where you can get close and swap to add more damage? Tractor is still going to be preferable. It's a heavy weapon exotic, it should be allowed to have more juice then it's got. Divinity used to provide a 30% ranged debuff and have a giant crit cage as a special weapon
Just used this during a run with at least 1 Well. It works insanely well, with Deterministic allowing for pulse healing with the Well enabling more healing while reloading/Actium charging. Sure I did the least damage, but I was able to enable is to survive those annoying ass attacks.
I am enough of a warlock main to not even know that fragment for healing existed. Def trying this since I already have a raid loadout for titan with it.
Warlock Well (Gives constant regeneration), Bastion over shield (Constantly refreshing temp health), and Controlled Demolition (Gives a big chunk of healing every 4th shot)
Honestly I just got this gun not too long ago, and at least on the tank in the legendary communion mission, I think have it’s health kept getting taken out pretty quick. It was just about half health in maybe those 4 shots or less. Just that gun. Maybe it was a bug that hadn’t been fixed. Or maybe it has increased damage against vehicles? Idk I was absolutely shocked. I want to see if I can get footage from it. I’ll try the mission again. I had the quest for ages but since I got it I was like why not try it. I swear I wasn’t even doing anything different just using the gun on warlock. Not even titan like this video! It wasn’t doing that all the time, like it didn’t do half then kill the rest, but the chunks were immense when they happened.
tanking the witness beams is actually ridiculous. Definetly doesnt work on higher difficulties, but something ill keep in my backpocket for a support oriented titan build for lfgs im going to end up doing at some point
I will say this: You're wrong about Titans not having damage rotation's. Buddy of mine is a speedrunner. He's been messing around on Titan lately using the Hazardous propulsion, still hunt, and rockets. He's gotten top dps doing it. Don't ask me how. Either way, great idea, imma have to test it out.
My brother in christ, either eternal warrior/star eater with twilight arsenal and good void guns, or hazardous with cloudstrike + rocket are good titan rotations. Not being the best is a whole different story.
This is great and I really want that specific combination! I was maybe being a little bit over the top titans can deal decent dps still its just the other classes have it easier :p
Here’s this for an even way better survivability. If on prismatic you can use the Facet of Solitude since precision hits servers any enemy, causing their damage to be reduced by 33 percent. Combine that with the “healing” factor… you got a hidden tank survivability already underway!
Just used this for my First Salvation's Edge clear. Didn't tell my fire team about it until after the clear. Last night we were getting about 1/3 during each DPS phase with multiple deaths. Tonight it was over half and no one was dying. So glad I watched this video.
We honestly don't need titans in the witness a sorcerer with the well of Radiance And another with the song of flames is already perfect endurance and damage with snipers Good for the Titans but they are still not relevant
Ive been rocking this gun with actium and my ros arago with subsistence onslaught in nightfalls. It fuckin shreds, it shredded last week, it shreds this week, I am thoroughly enjoying the explosion every 4th shot rework
Really fourth time rhe charm for its catyslst? That is mid asf n tbh i rather have them buff the magize n have its catyslst be that it can ever so often apply suppression that would a work horse of all void debuffs and better bec then you can double up on champios and suppress subjugators or any annoying ads
People underestimate this weapon support capabilities because they think it HAS to deal a lot of damages. Weaken, anti barrier and now healing bursts on volatile explosions... No it doesn not shred bosses, but damn it has a lot of tools
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This is actually pretty cool, despite the gun being uhhhh questionable at best!
@LlamaD2 you should definitely cover this (if you think it’s noteworthy enough of course) as it could be quite useful in ranged DPS. Obviously giving this man, can’t forget that.
This will severly impact the Deterministic Chaos stock market. I hate this gun with a passion but I might even give it a shot after this. Great vid as always!
I didn't even think about the fact that it extends stronger weaken effects, might use it if that catalyst does end up being 4th times
I think it was when folks rightly complained that if anyone applies 15% Weaken (with a fresh timer), it would replace an existing 30% weaken effect.
So at least they fixed it in a way that benefits the players.
Instead of overriding the stronger 30% Weaken, the 15% weaken will get its new debuff timer, but maintaining the 30% effect.
Bastión should be merged in the base void titan set, at least have it as an optional barrier, so you could run controlled demo and something else. That would make void titan interesting.
You do realise that bastion is a kinetic weapon
@@pencilduster2938 you do realize that Bastion is also the name of one of the Void Titan aspects, right?
@pencilduster2938 you can delete comments bro lol
@@pencilduster2938 RETARDED
@@pencilduster2938You can still delete this
I just found this out yesterday, I tried wings of sacred dawn against witness in a random exsison and you can completely dodge his attacks for the whole damage phase. I used whisper with the new seasonal mods and wings of sacred dawn unironcally cooked. I recommend trying it out. Maybe this could cook with determistic chaos too
This might just be the greatest idea of all time
Can u float high enough to avoid the beams? And will u still hit numbers cause i thought u could only do dmg on the platform or a bit above it
@@abhinavsuvinr7922 you need to find the sweet spot. Too high and he'll be "immune", too low and you get hit by the attacks.
Your MIND!!! Might fuck around with that shit today 🤪
hold on, that might be a whisper play right there‽ I don't remember how it works, do you have to constantly re-ads? or can you just float indefinitely?
The thing should come intrinsically with fourth times, catty should be repulsor brace.
Repulsor is a mid perk. It should get rewind or reconstruction to help that terrible magazine size
@@mcgarbagenuggets8793 you perhaps missed where I said it gets 4th times AND repulser brace.
Or an exotic version of 4th time, where volatile procs produce 3 rounds out of thin air, overflowing the mag, and you can throw a grenade and fire, which will produce a large amount of volatile procs, giving you crazy ammunition for extended fire.
@@RebelOfTheNorm242 cool idea. I don’t think an infinite ammo volatile MG would be healthy for the sandbox tho 😅
@@jordan95623 well Technically not infinite, as you would only be getting 3 round per volatile shot, which happens every 6th shot, so basically a 50% mag bonus.
It’s a slow ass firing gun anyway, so it’ll be perfect for long/semi long firefights, and would actively reduce divinity usage, and actively boast Titan usage in raids and dungeons (as we are terribly under utilized)
This man.
This man not only made Deterministic Chaos look good, but saw the sweet poetic opposition its name posed to the Witness's vision of "Finality"
This is actually very useful. Reliable and consistent under various situations, not just boss dps. I can see it being used in other activities.
did it yesterday and work like a charm.
thanks for sharing!
Friend of mine did this for glassway, very strong healing. We switched over to collective obligation and that was awesome too.
omg what I actually didn't know about the catalyst
It’s not available just exists within the games API
I always had a secret love for this thing, mainly cause I always like using void Titan as a support class, but I always wanted this thing to be in that fantasy a bit more.
But this will definitely help with that goal! I will use this knowledge wisely
I actually really like this guns and how it feels to use so this is really nice to hear
What I’ve learnt about this channel is that when Duqk calls out something, it has some merit (prime example is attrition orbs on smgs). I took this into the new strike and performed decent enough. I think that it should have been called out that it is intrinsically anti-barrier, and the only heavy with that intrinsic perk. Great video.
CORRECTION: thanks to @Bikram for pointing out that Lament exists 😅 it’s one of the two exotics for anti-barrier
It's anti-barrier?
@@jaipadv8282 as of the Final Shape, yes
Lament is also intrinsic anti barrier
@@nanceinthepants ahh okay cool thanks 👍
It cannot extend tether, nothing can. But I agree, with FTTC catalyst on the horizon and these benefits, it can replace div. Tbh running this for debuff application and healing, then shooting some solar sniper is a pretty good setup as is.
I used it for the grandmaster excision week one, this and ursa with unbreakable was a lifesaver for us.
dont let the lfgs know
Nah, Thunderlord is still better XD
Nice to see a niche use for it. I love this gun's model and tried it first thing after the buff, and was extremely disappointed. It needs more reserves and some kind of reload perk! It's almost good, just needs a little push.
iirc you can't actually extend tether's debuff. it's tied to the actual anchor. felwinter's and tractor yes absolutely though :)
I have a feeling this was a machine gun made for sentinel titan mains everything it does feels like it was made for the void titan kit compared to hunters and warlocks
It really be a weird timeline when titans go from the tank, to the support.
If it provided a 30% debuff it might actually be worth losing the guardian damage. Maybe on the second weaken burst it provides 30% debuff to keep with the theme of after x hits ramped up things happen
From what I remember, one of aeons mods applies a unique 20% debuff that stacks with weaken by the wearer just dealing precision damage. Combine it and DT together and I believe the resulting debuff is greater than tractor.
I’m not sure if it should apply that big of a debuff because it would make Tractor Cannon a lot less useful. 20% is probably better.
@thechunkmaster8794 tractor would still Be better because of swapping. In close range bosses you apply tractor then do special weapon weapon damage.
This would make it have a unique function. Divinity gives the same buff, and provides massive crit spot.
It shouldn't do other gun's job to be good tho. Maybe firing a micro missile + FTTC could make it a decent DPS optio, since it's the only Neomuna weapon without the intrinsic perk
@Spinworth the problem is that it is an exotic that deals terrible damage. Like a vorpal blue machine gun will out damage it.
So fttc will increase total damage, but it still will not have a niche.
But it might be worth using if it gave a 30% debuff. It would not suppress, like tractor does, and it would be a commitment weapon to extend the debuff. It would be good on long range bosses like the witness, WR final boss, and ghosts of the deep final boss.
But in instances where you can get close and swap to add more damage? Tractor is still going to be preferable.
It's a heavy weapon exotic, it should be allowed to have more juice then it's got.
Divinity used to provide a 30% ranged debuff and have a giant crit cage as a special weapon
HOLY CRAP. This is awesome!
Just used this during a run with at least 1 Well. It works insanely well, with Deterministic allowing for pulse healing with the Well enabling more healing while reloading/Actium charging. Sure I did the least damage, but I was able to enable is to survive those annoying ass attacks.
How much dps/dmg did you manage after 1 phase during raid?
Sadly if you use your super too it only goes up to 700,000, it's really bad damage wise
Fantastic idea! I didn’t even think about that
"its not like titans have any damage rotationd avaliable right now"
anything that applies volatile is amazing at this.
I am enough of a warlock main to not even know that fragment for healing existed. Def trying this since I already have a raid loadout for titan with it.
I'm gonna give this a go on my Voidlock with Contraverse Hold build. I have faith in this underused LMG.
How are you surviving the witness attacks? Any special resists? Doesn’t even look like you have well on lol
A lot of healing effects, the more the better and also 3 solar resist mods
Warlock Well (Gives constant regeneration), Bastion over shield (Constantly refreshing temp health), and Controlled Demolition (Gives a big chunk of healing every 4th shot)
Sir a second exotic machine gun has hit the lfgs
I use it for anti barrier in GMs
I'm still getting murdered in the witness blast... Doing everything in the video and also triple solar resist.....? Am I missing something?
It should have more ammo in clip and reserve
If you pair this with aeons you get a second weaken that stacks. Its a ranged tractor cannon
The Aeon's "weaken" effect doesn't work on Bosses, only on Minibosses and Major/Elite enemies.
What fragments were you using
Honestly I just got this gun not too long ago, and at least on the tank in the legendary communion mission, I think have it’s health kept getting taken out pretty quick. It was just about half health in maybe those 4 shots or less. Just that gun. Maybe it was a bug that hadn’t been fixed. Or maybe it has increased damage against vehicles? Idk I was absolutely shocked. I want to see if I can get footage from it. I’ll try the mission again. I had the quest for ages but since I got it I was like why not try it. I swear I wasn’t even doing anything different just using the gun on warlock. Not even titan like this video! It wasn’t doing that all the time, like it didn’t do half then kill the rest, but the chunks were immense when they happened.
It’s always had a use . Nightfall / machine guns / void . I never hated it
so, should my teammates use void heavy or is not necessary?
they should make it that every volatile explosion on the same target makes the next one bigger and deal more damage
tanking the witness beams is actually ridiculous. Definetly doesnt work on higher difficulties, but something ill keep in my backpocket for a support oriented titan build for lfgs im going to end up doing at some point
I will say this: You're wrong about Titans not having damage rotation's. Buddy of mine is a speedrunner. He's been messing around on Titan lately using the Hazardous propulsion, still hunt, and rockets. He's gotten top dps doing it. Don't ask me how. Either way, great idea, imma have to test it out.
I want this gun’s damage to be buffed. Such a cool gun imo
Mhmm I wonder what exotic armor is being used. Maybe Actium War Rig
My brother in christ, either eternal warrior/star eater with twilight arsenal and good void guns, or hazardous with cloudstrike + rocket are good titan rotations.
Not being the best is a whole different story.
This is great and I really want that specific combination! I was maybe being a little bit over the top titans can deal decent dps still its just the other classes have it easier :p
I used to do this since it came out, but having BoW happened. This gun needs more reserve ammo and maybe shoot a micro missile too
Actually very good for dps phases Imo
did that when the raid came out especially when the witnesses crit spot is that big, you don't need div
they gotta add that catalyst
well yk what they say- dead dps is no dps- which makes this a viable option for lower skill teams where ppl die a lot
Void titans STAY "WINNING"
Tried it, didn't work
Sacrifice your dps to make sure your lfgs can do their own shit dps ‼️‼️
Here’s this for an even way better survivability. If on prismatic you can use the Facet of Solitude since precision hits servers any enemy, causing their damage to be reduced by 33 percent. Combine that with the “healing” factor… you got a hidden tank survivability already underway!
prismatic doesn't have the Controlled Demolition aspect that's used for healing in this setup
@@zezolus ah. You’re right. Probably best if someone else use facet of solitude while titan utilizes controlled demolitionist.
Void souls also extend debuffs.
Just used this for my First Salvation's Edge clear. Didn't tell my fire team about it until after the clear.
Last night we were getting about 1/3 during each DPS phase with multiple deaths.
Tonight it was over half and no one was dying. So glad I watched this video.
People keep dying in my team .... pulling this out rn
We honestly don't need titans in the witness a sorcerer with the well of Radiance And another with the song of flames is already perfect endurance and damage with snipers Good for the Titans but they are still not relevant
this is wonderfully creative, but the statement that “titans don’t really have any damage rotations anyways” is just straight up lying
this is def lemonade from lemons
It's catalyst should make the magazine 64 rounds.
Otherwise I will get really sad
Ive been rocking this gun with actium and my ros arago with subsistence onslaught in nightfalls.
It fuckin shreds, it shredded last week, it shreds this week, I am thoroughly enjoying the explosion every 4th shot rework
I like this gun. This gun is fun
“It’s not like titans have any DPS rotations available now anyway.”
Still Hunt/Apex Predator/Hazardous: “Bonjour.”
"What do you mean I still was 6th in damage?"
If they only change the rpm
So whos got a build then?
Demetori
Its another divinity
It's not a bad gun, it's just not a great gun
We been using it since our first clear! But by this display, our user has some fragments to change 😂
Actium war rig
now itll never get a buff
Really fourth time rhe charm for its catyslst? That is mid asf n tbh i rather have them buff the magize n have its catyslst be that it can ever so often apply suppression that would a work horse of all void debuffs and better bec then you can double up on champios and suppress subjugators or any annoying ads
Not totally a stupid choice
People underestimate this weapon support capabilities because they think it HAS to deal a lot of damages. Weaken, anti barrier and now healing bursts on volatile explosions... No it doesn not shred bosses, but damn it has a lot of tools
It's actually crazy this Gun has been in the game since Lightfall, and people are just now figuring out its a support weapon, and not a dps weapon.
the content drought for destiny 2 youtubers is getting serious
Cook again
Too bad it only weakens for the user so you're not really doing anything special
How does it take this long for people to realise its a support gun
So the main purpose for this is to make sure your teammates don't die in Excision? I like that
Still garbage compared to many other options unfortunately but still very cool looking and interesting.
rare duck L unfortunate to see.
Sike
I dont beliveve u
Niche at best but alright