Roof light bars = I only run one as I’ve been forced a couple of times to cross deep water at night where my spot lights were under water causing a near blackout for several seconds. So I only run one solely for that season. The Lazers look great. I’ve had my eye on them for a while now and I think I’m going to use them on my new build 👍
good point, I try to avoid deep water crossings especially at night but you never know so thats definitely a good point. I have been speaking with Lazer and they suggested trying one of their Linear bars for the roof which I likely give a go and see how that goes.
I bought the sentinel elite around 12 months ago along with Lazer’s 52 inch light bar. Use is dependent on what I am negotiating. One thing’s for sure, they are the best lights I have ever had in a vehicle and would buy them again in a heartbeat. I threadlocked mine and have had no issues with them coming undone. It’s also worth mentioning that a few of the guys that I travel with have also swapped out their lights to Lazer after experiencing mine.
I ordered 7" Elites with a TRIPLE-R 24 ELITE for the roof of my overland build in Dec last year. It will be done in April and I am so eager to pick it up, especially after seeing this video. I chose 7" instead of 9" because of the concerns of overheating as they bigger ones would cover most of my grille. The bar light is mostly for lighting over higher bushes to spot animals whilst driving.
I'm having the 7" on my car now, I havent used them much, but first tests are great. The 9" were too big for my bullbar (touching the hoops) and more airflow is also good.
I'd love to consolidate my navra light bar and 2x Hella rallye HID into just 2 driving lights. I have been considering Stedi driving lights however after seeing the difference in quality of the light output between the ultravisions and the Lazers I am now reconsidering the Stedis considering that they might be of lower quality than the Ultravisions. Unfortunately, the +$1600 price for 2 lazer driving lights can't be justified. Looks like I'll save myself some $ and keep my current setup. Thanks for your time, cheers
yes they are not cheap thats for sure, but given they have a 5 year warranty you pay less than a 1$ per day if they die when the warranty ends and I would assume you will have them much longer though. All depends how much is a good light pattern worth to you though.
I run a pair Hella 250 bull lights on my GQ for me they work great and light up the road or tracks fine ,i like the old style Q I globes recon it,s a better light for me ,these light are tough as i,ve had them for 15 years and never stopped working ,the body of them is made to last for ever i buy quality lights i don,t think they will ever let me down
Rooflights need a very narrow output too be usefull. Pencil beams, rigid hyperspot, bd racer. The new laser laser based pencil beams will be killer when roof mounted
Nice video and LAZER might be really good. Just my experience - on my bike I use 1 BajaDesigns squadron Pro in Driving beam and 1 Diodedynamics SS3Pro in Driving beam pattern 4000K. This setup is close to what you get from projector headlight but with more intensity, hot spot in the center and light gradually decreasing towards periphery. On my car I'll go for a similar setup but even more powerful
Great video~blog. I use the Stedi X-E light bars for the Amber Accents. And use them in inclement weather conditions. They look great on my Ford Ranger MSRT. Laserlamp products are nice but a tad expensive for what they are!
@@AlloffroadAu ill have to go back and look later. its hard when trying to buy lights unless you can be there when they are tested filming not the same.
if you in Australia I think driving lights need to be in pairs so look in to that, you may be better of with a light bar. I'm just getting ready for another Desert trip and will replace my T24 Evolution on the roof with a Linear 36, and Sentinel with a Tripple R 1250 Gen 2 keen to see how they perform. Was already very happy with Gen 1 Trippe R 1250 and gen 2 is even better.
@@AlloffroadAuI think I’ll go without but if doing a long off-road trip may get them for that. Just bought a set so will be stoked to instal them. Thanks for the reply!
Spring washers are nonsense. They provide negligible additional clamping force to the thousands of Newtons a bolt can provide and the soft metal does not meaningfull cut into a hardened bolt to prevent it from turning. Even worse than that, they provide a small opening for water to sit right in your threads and encourage them to bond forever. Use nyloc or threadlocker depending on application.
@@AlloffroadAu Plenty of other reasons why that might be the case. Something I found with a few of my accessories is there may have been a few high spots on the mating surface from paint which quickly wear down and allow the bolts to loosen. A second attempt at tightening these usually fixes the problem. Your first set of bolts could have been over torqued and placed into plastic deformation and after a few shock loads could have just kept stretching. You can look up "Junker" tests of various fasteners. Nordlock usually wins these and is more convenient than threadlocker but more expensive too. Nylock doesn't stop the part from rattling loose but retains the nut so you can just tighten it later.
After 40 years in the transport industry and driving BDoubles and road trains I would still say that HID lights are superior to LED Most interstate truck drivers I know that have been around for awhile would prefer to use an HID rather than LED. LED tend to be too bright and harsh on your your eyes maybe too bright in comparison to HID if you’re sitting there for hours and hours looking into them HID are a lot more relaxing on your eyes Personally I run a set of hella predators and I find them to be superb lights and the two of them together only draw a total of 70 watts 70÷12 equals 5.8 amps. It’s hard to find better than that.
yea I did run HDI and I can see how you prefer them as a trucky for HighWay only. I need something which is suitable as much for off road as distance and LED does a better job with that. I think light temp makes a difference for LED I find 5.7 k to bright.
And a roo is yes to spot with warm light... the brown pops. LED the brown and greens don't seem to pop different and a roo looks almost Gray to green. Travelling same road with warm fyerlights and another car I and wife stopped 100s of the on side if the road.... They with LEDs said noticed about 10 🤣
yea depends on light colour of the LED many cheap manufacturers use 5.7k and higher to appear brighter. If I only travel the Nullabor I would also consider the Fyrlyte Nemesis as my first choice (if they did not need the 24v step up converter)
@@AlloffroadAu the new 12v ones they have are amazing. I have a 12v set and will add a second and add to the roof. Better cooling and stop the annoying light wobbly from being attached to the bull bar.
hm not sure how it’s an infomercial? Tested for a year and I have the option to run many different lights, and Lazer never paid me for anything. I show a direct comparison between different lights including the also excellent Ultra Vision. As I said it’s a personal preference, but so far best I have run.
nop want to be able to adjust them turned out they only came loose because they where a little big for my Bullbar and on corrugation would connect and rattle loose
Roof light bars = I only run one as I’ve been forced a couple of times to cross deep water at night where my spot lights were under water causing a near blackout for several seconds. So I only run one solely for that season.
The Lazers look great. I’ve had my eye on them for a while now and I think I’m going to use them on my new build 👍
good point, I try to avoid deep water crossings especially at night but you never know so thats definitely a good point. I have been speaking with Lazer and they suggested trying one of their Linear bars for the roof which I likely give a go and see how that goes.
I bought the sentinel elite around 12 months ago along with Lazer’s 52 inch light bar. Use is dependent on what I am negotiating. One thing’s for sure, they are the best lights I have ever had in a vehicle and would buy them again in a heartbeat. I threadlocked mine and have had no issues with them coming undone.
It’s also worth mentioning that a few of the guys that I travel with have also swapped out their lights to Lazer after experiencing mine.
I ordered 7" Elites with a TRIPLE-R 24 ELITE for the roof of my overland build in Dec last year. It will be done in April and I am so eager to pick it up, especially after seeing this video. I chose 7" instead of 9" because of the concerns of overheating as they bigger ones would cover most of my grille.
The bar light is mostly for lighting over higher bushes to spot animals whilst driving.
I'm having the 7" on my car now, I havent used them much, but first tests are great. The 9" were too big for my bullbar (touching the hoops) and more airflow is also good.
@@AlloffroadAu im also considering the 7" Elites for my Jeep Gladiator. Is there big difference in lighting, compared to 9" ?
slight difference in output as smaller lights but very usable and I'm so far very happy with them.
@@AlloffroadAu Thank you for letting me know. I've ordered a pair for my brother too. We're both excited to get them on the trucks.
I'd love to consolidate my navra light bar and 2x Hella rallye HID into just 2 driving lights. I have been considering Stedi driving lights however after seeing the difference in quality of the light output between the ultravisions and the Lazers I am now reconsidering the Stedis considering that they might be of lower quality than the Ultravisions. Unfortunately, the +$1600 price for 2 lazer driving lights can't be justified. Looks like I'll save myself some $ and keep my current setup. Thanks for your time, cheers
yes they are not cheap thats for sure, but given they have a 5 year warranty you pay less than a 1$ per day if they die when the warranty ends and I would assume you will have them much longer though. All depends how much is a good light pattern worth to you though.
hey steph great reveiw mate. your so right about seeing things at 2ks. noone can see that far unless your the 6million dollar man.
I run a pair Hella 250 bull lights on my GQ for me they work great and light up the road or tracks fine ,i like the old style Q I globes recon it,s a better light for me ,these light are tough as i,ve had them for 15 years and never stopped working ,the body of them is made to last for ever i buy quality lights i don,t think they will ever let me down
15 years is incredible
Rooflights need a very narrow output too be usefull. Pencil beams, rigid hyperspot, bd racer.
The new laser laser based pencil beams will be killer when roof mounted
Nice video and LAZER might be really good.
Just my experience - on my bike I use 1 BajaDesigns squadron Pro in Driving beam and 1 Diodedynamics SS3Pro in Driving beam pattern 4000K. This setup is close to what you get from projector headlight but with more intensity, hot spot in the center and light gradually decreasing towards periphery.
On my car I'll go for a similar setup but even more powerful
haven’t tried Baja Design but heard they are also very good
Fantastic review. Thanks 🙏
Glad you liked it!
Great video~blog. I use the Stedi X-E light bars for the Amber Accents. And use them in inclement weather conditions. They look great on my Ford Ranger MSRT. Laserlamp products are nice but a tad expensive for what they are!
yep the Stedi seem to be pretty good value for money
love that land rover you had.
I had a few which one do you mean?
@@AlloffroadAu ill have to go back and look later. its hard when trying to buy lights unless you can be there when they are tested filming not the same.
yes any video is hard to do lights justice hence I always try to show different lights as differences are easier to see
I am planning on using only one the centre of my bull bar
I recon would do a pretty good job due to combination of spread and distance
@@AlloffroadAu In the centre of the ineos Grenadier lights. Possibly with a Linear 24 elite or two ST-4
if you in Australia I think driving lights need to be in pairs so look in to that, you may be better of with a light bar. I'm just getting ready for another Desert trip and will replace my T24 Evolution on the roof with a Linear 36, and Sentinel with a Tripple R 1250 Gen 2 keen to see how they perform. Was already very happy with Gen 1 Trippe R 1250 and gen 2 is even better.
@@AlloffroadAu Yeah. Normally I would but the Grenadier has two existing lights so one Sentinel in the middle may work.
@@AlloffroadAu still waiting patiently for this review haha
Hi mate, Did you find the clear protectors were needed? apparently they have an 'unbreakable' warranty so not sure they are needed or not. Thanks
I had them on all lights just easy to replace and clean don’t think they are needed though.
@@AlloffroadAuI think I’ll go without but if doing a long off-road trip may get them for that. Just bought a set so will be stoked to instal them. Thanks for the reply!
can u please check out baja designs lp9 pro lights and do a video comparing them.
they sure look very futuristic, not sure they have a distributer in Australia I may reach out
Hi Stefan, have you tried frylyt lights? Do you have an opinion on them?
yes I had the Nemesis on the Defender, good lights very bright (nearly to bright) but 24v step up converters and current draw was a bit of a pain.
@@AlloffroadAu thanks for the reply!
Spring washers are nonsense. They provide negligible additional clamping force to the thousands of Newtons a bolt can provide and the soft metal does not meaningfull cut into a hardened bolt to prevent it from turning. Even worse than that, they provide a small opening for water to sit right in your threads and encourage them to bond forever. Use nyloc or threadlocker depending on application.
interesting, nylock not possible and the spring washers seem to work as after I placed them no more loose bolts so far.
@@AlloffroadAu Plenty of other reasons why that might be the case. Something I found with a few of my accessories is there may have been a few high spots on the mating surface from paint which quickly wear down and allow the bolts to loosen. A second attempt at tightening these usually fixes the problem. Your first set of bolts could have been over torqued and placed into plastic deformation and after a few shock loads could have just kept stretching.
You can look up "Junker" tests of various fasteners. Nordlock usually wins these and is more convenient than threadlocker but more expensive too. Nylock doesn't stop the part from rattling loose but retains the nut so you can just tighten it later.
never heard of Nordlock just looked them up they look quite good, may have to put a set of them on.
After 40 years in the transport industry and driving BDoubles and road trains I would still say that HID lights are superior to LED
Most interstate truck drivers I know that have been around for awhile would prefer to use an HID rather than LED.
LED tend to be too bright and harsh on your your eyes maybe too bright in comparison to HID if you’re sitting there for hours and hours looking into them HID are a lot more relaxing on your eyes
Personally I run a set of hella predators and I find them to be superb lights and the two of them together only draw a total of 70 watts 70÷12 equals 5.8 amps. It’s hard to find better than that.
yea I did run HDI and I can see how you prefer them as a trucky for HighWay only. I need something which is suitable as much for off road as distance and LED does a better job with that. I think light temp makes a difference for LED I find 5.7 k to bright.
And a roo is yes to spot with warm light... the brown pops.
LED the brown and greens don't seem to pop different and a roo looks almost Gray to green.
Travelling same road with warm fyerlights and another car I and wife stopped 100s of the on side if the road....
They with LEDs said noticed about 10 🤣
yea depends on light colour of the LED many cheap manufacturers use 5.7k and higher to appear brighter. If I only travel the Nullabor I would also consider the Fyrlyte Nemesis as my first choice (if they did not need the 24v step up converter)
@@AlloffroadAu the new 12v ones they have are amazing.
I have a 12v set and will add a second and add to the roof.
Better cooling and stop the annoying light wobbly from being attached to the bull bar.
Interested to see what reflections you get from bonnet, I think you would need to mount them a fair bit back?
Nice infomercial
hm not sure how it’s an infomercial? Tested for a year and I have the option to run many different lights, and Lazer never paid me for anything. I show a direct comparison between different lights including the also excellent Ultra Vision. As I said it’s a personal preference, but so far best I have run.
Yes Stefan, just another Troll that doesn't hear or read your comments on unbiased comments on real world experience.
Expensive lights you should be using locktite
nop want to be able to adjust them turned out they only came loose because they where a little big for my Bullbar and on corrugation would connect and rattle loose
Stedi = Cheap???
yea bit more expensive now when I used them they where quite cheap in comparison to Ultravision or Lazer actually the still are quite a bit cheaper