Been running Lazer Triple R28 and triple R750 since January 2017 and the Triple R28 blows peoples minds when they see it in use at night, even the light output of the 2 x 750’s is huge for such a small lightbar.
@@Millsy67 more power to you, I’ve watched a few more videos in them and appreciate the quality now I’m just trying to find a bull bar light at no roof mount so it’s well overkill for m But you just can’t resist videos with real life examples and demonstrations in them can you haha
I came across your video after deciding on the Lazer Lamp light bars. After watching it you have confirmed my decision to buy the Lazer Lamp bars. Thank you for such a comprehensive yet straight forward review.
Legend, you just saved me from making a minor mistake. I was about to buy the Ultra Vision 24" Nitro Max, and watching your video, I can see an improvement in light output. I don't want kms of light, I can't see that far, I just want the best and brightest light a few hundred metres in front. As they're the same price, the light seems that little better from the Lazer. Sold. Thanks. Maybe the lazer is that little better because they're less, larger, all spot vs the ultra vision are smaller, more lights, and a combination of spot and spread.
@michaelwindow87 Are you still happy with the new 305w Nitro Maxx? I was looking at replacing my 20' Rigid Industries Pro version with the 305w or 355w Nitro Maxx, i'm happy with what i have apart from the brightness of the spread, looking for a brighter spread. Thanks mate
The Laser gear is an amazing product, it’s such a shame the bloke representing them at shows has a “check the website” attitude. I knew someone involved with them I’m the UK, wish I could import them myself!
One thing I would be interested to know is the lense affected by using a public car wash. What the problem iv had with other brands is the get crows feet / crazing of the lense due to the ph level of the car wash used by commercial car washes. Iv tried to claim warranty with a major brand and they would not replace the lense since I used a car wash. So my question is. Are these affected in the same way ?
What about lightforce , i thought they were also top of the line? Aust owned and made , I have a set of genesis spotties that are very good. Or are these that much better ?
can't comment about the spotties yet, I think where Lazer is unique is the light distribution,. There are certainly brighter bars out there but I have seen one yet with such pleasant even light pattern.
Lightforce lightbars and their rok lights are made in China. Their LED spotties like htx2 are Australian made though. Can certainly tell the difference, had two Lightforce led bars and a set of htx2s on my vehicle but took them off after a year after they began to corrode and switched to ultra led bars and the build quality is outstanding.
yea, while I have not used their newer bars I don't think they can match a Lazer or Ultravision so I would not run them but keeon to compare with someone else you may run them.
@@AlloffroadAu I've been running their 28" version... I actually find it too bright funnily enough. Maybe you'll cross paths with someone who's running them 👍 Keep up the awesome content 😊
@@247geoffers I hear you in the early days sheer light output was my main objective nowadays I put way more consideration on beam pattern and light distribution. That's why I like the Lazer
Oh also also, how does the bonnet reflection come into play, it’s the one thing stopping me from going for a big light bar, for the roof and looking for a bull bar
@@AlloffroadAu For dirt road driving, having one's light source(s) BELOW one's vision height means one can see the shadows cast by any irregularities on the road - making obstical detection so much easier. i.e. as you prefer: driving lights on the bull bar, not roof.
@@AlloffroadAu np all good mate. Rigids are made in USA, extremely popular in the US, been using them for sometime but I’m thinking of changing to laser if they’re better. Not many local reviews o that light, hence my ask
yea I don't think I have come across them so can't really compare. So far Lazer are definitely not the brightest but the way how the light is delivered is best I have seen so far.
@@AlloffroadAu Yeah, real life test are always best. LEDs in general have really never been great at reproducing all visual wavelength. This is one thing older halogen lamps excelled at, with a CRI close to 100. For LEDs a rating above 90 is considered good. Some top of the line, high quality LEDs reach as high as 96-98. A CRI of 80 is considered ok, but not great. With such low CRI the light starts to look unnatural. Most people wont notice, but you would not use such low CRI led's in lets say photography lighting, for this very reason that the light output are missing quite a few wavelengths of visible lights. It perfectly acceptable though for the application of work lights or car lighting as is for this case. Just don't believe the manufacturers proclamation of great light output with a CRI >80. That's on the borderline of false advertising.
@@AlloffroadAu Not strange at all. I have Lazer lights myself and find them fantastic. It's hard to visually tell that the CRI is low when driving along, lighting up uneven textured surfaces, which is why I say that a CRI of 80 is perfectly acceptable for this applications. Also, a low CRI has nothing to do with the light distribution, intensity or color temperature, which is top of the line with these Lazer lights. Most people won't notice a low CRI unless they see a direct side by side comparison against a equal intensity high CRI light source, but once you start to notice it's hard not to. A low CRI light feels unnatural. It's like you can tell that something is not quite right, but its hard to put a finger on what it is. It's ironic how manufacturers boast about the high CRI index of >80 these days, when old school halogen lamps were in fact better. Not better at intensity, lumen, power consumption, heat or whatnot. For almost every aspect LEDs outperforms halogen lamps, except on one account. Halogen lamps have a superior CRI index to LED's.
Been running Lazer Triple R28 and triple R750 since January 2017 and the Triple R28 blows peoples minds when they see it in use at night, even the light output of the 2 x 750’s is huge for such a small lightbar.
Bro holy shit how much does a lazer triple cost here like 2k? Fuarrrk
@@FJaypewpew was around $1700 at time of purchase for the Triple R28. But definitely money well spent
@@Millsy67 more power to you, I’ve watched a few more videos in them and appreciate the quality now
I’m just trying to find a bull bar light at no roof mount so it’s well overkill for m
But you just can’t resist videos with real life examples and demonstrations in them can you haha
I came across your video after deciding on the Lazer Lamp light bars. After watching it you have confirmed my decision to buy the Lazer Lamp bars. Thank you for such a comprehensive yet straight forward review.
thanks mate glad it was helpful, so far I can not fault them.
Legend, you just saved me from making a minor mistake. I was about to buy the Ultra Vision 24" Nitro Max, and watching your video, I can see an improvement in light output. I don't want kms of light, I can't see that far, I just want the best and brightest light a few hundred metres in front. As they're the same price, the light seems that little better from the Lazer. Sold. Thanks.
Maybe the lazer is that little better because they're less, larger, all spot vs the ultra vision are smaller, more lights, and a combination of spot and spread.
I like the Lazer also. Thank you
You're welcome!
Great video as usual. Will definitely have lazer in mind when I decide to purchase my light bar.
thanks mate, yes so far I can't fault them.
I wonder how the new Ultra Vision light bars compare now. I just got a new 305w Nitro Maxx and it is significantly better than my old 305w.
yep would also be interested to know, I also always was quite happy with my UV
@michaelwindow87 Are you still happy with the new 305w Nitro Maxx? I was looking at replacing my 20' Rigid Industries Pro version with the 305w or 355w Nitro Maxx, i'm happy with what i have apart from the brightness of the spread, looking for a brighter spread. Thanks mate
@@moto4x4adventure9 very happy, I got rid of my Bushranger Nighthawks as they were redundant after installing the 305w.
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Waiting for the driving lazer driving lights to be released
'Supernova Rogue' have a nice usable light distribution
can't comment haven't heard of them or used them.
5000K is midday sunlight which is a good colour
The Laser gear is an amazing product, it’s such a shame the bloke representing them at shows has a “check the website” attitude.
I knew someone involved with them I’m the UK, wish I could import them myself!
yes great gear indeed, never had a problem with Jason maybe got him on a bad day?
One thing I would be interested to know is the lense affected by using a public car wash. What the problem iv had with other brands is the get crows feet / crazing of the lense due to the ph level of the car wash used by commercial car washes. Iv tried to claim warranty with a major brand and they would not replace the lense since I used a car wash. So my question is. Are these affected in the same way ?
no idea to be honest only use hand car washes but will make some enquiries
What about lightforce , i thought they were also top of the line? Aust owned and made , I have a set of genesis spotties that are very good. Or are these that much better ?
can't comment about the spotties yet, I think where Lazer is unique is the light distribution,. There are certainly brighter bars out there but I have seen one yet with such pleasant even light pattern.
Lightforce lightbars and their rok lights are made in China. Their LED spotties like htx2 are Australian made though. Can certainly tell the difference, had two Lightforce led bars and a set of htx2s on my vehicle but took them off after a year after they began to corrode and switched to ultra led bars and the build quality is outstanding.
I'd be interested to see you compare the Stedi 3303 range.
yea, while I have not used their newer bars I don't think they can match a Lazer or Ultravision so I would not run them but keeon to compare with someone else you may run them.
@@AlloffroadAu I've been running their 28" version... I actually find it too bright funnily enough. Maybe you'll cross paths with someone who's running them 👍 Keep up the awesome content 😊
@@247geoffers I hear you in the early days sheer light output was my main objective nowadays I put way more consideration on beam pattern and light distribution. That's why I like the Lazer
Ohh I see it’s top top end lights ok my bad
I’m thinking 3-600 bucks as a big price for lights but I suppose there is always a premium
Oh also also, how does the bonnet reflection come into play, it’s the one thing stopping me from going for a big light bar, for the roof and looking for a bull bar
yes I definitely prefer bull bar and if I only had a single light bar it would be on the bull bar, not roof.
@@AlloffroadAu For dirt road driving, having one's light source(s) BELOW one's vision height means one can see the shadows cast by any irregularities on the road - making obstical detection so much easier. i.e. as you prefer: driving lights on the bull bar, not roof.
Hoping you coul do a review of a rigidindustries vs laser
yea probably not it would most certainly be a step backwards and I always try to get better with my gear.
@@AlloffroadAu that’s interesting, at-least from a price point I see these two as direct competition. That’s ok all good
sorry my bad read Ridrider have not heard of Ridgidindustries will have a look
@@AlloffroadAu np all good mate. Rigids are made in USA, extremely popular in the US, been using them for sometime but I’m thinking of changing to laser if they’re better. Not many local reviews o that light, hence my ask
yea I don't think I have come across them so can't really compare. So far Lazer are definitely not the brightest but the way how the light is delivered is best I have seen so far.
The Laser brand looks superior to me.
yes same here so far best lights I have seen
A CRI index of only 80? That's actually pretty bad.
not sure not many companies state the CRI just figures though I go by how good they are in use.
@@AlloffroadAu Yeah, real life test are always best. LEDs in general have really never been great at reproducing all visual wavelength. This is one thing older halogen lamps excelled at, with a CRI close to 100. For LEDs a rating above 90 is considered good. Some top of the line, high quality LEDs reach as high as 96-98. A CRI of 80 is considered ok, but not great. With such low CRI the light starts to look unnatural. Most people wont notice, but you would not use such low CRI led's in lets say photography lighting, for this very reason that the light output are missing quite a few wavelengths of visible lights. It perfectly acceptable though for the application of work lights or car lighting as is for this case. Just don't believe the manufacturers proclamation of great light output with a CRI >80. That's on the borderline of false advertising.
hm strange as I think that's what makes the Lazer stand out it's just a pleasant well-distributed light
@@AlloffroadAu Not strange at all. I have Lazer lights myself and find them fantastic. It's hard to visually tell that the CRI is low when driving along, lighting up uneven textured surfaces, which is why I say that a CRI of 80 is perfectly acceptable for this applications. Also, a low CRI has nothing to do with the light distribution, intensity or color temperature, which is top of the line with these Lazer lights.
Most people won't notice a low CRI unless they see a direct side by side comparison against a equal intensity high CRI light source, but once you start to notice it's hard not to. A low CRI light feels unnatural. It's like you can tell that something is not quite right, but its hard to put a finger on what it is.
It's ironic how manufacturers boast about the high CRI index of >80 these days, when old school halogen lamps were in fact better. Not better at intensity, lumen, power consumption, heat or whatnot. For almost every aspect LEDs outperforms halogen lamps, except on one account. Halogen lamps have a superior CRI index to LED's.