Orson was obsessed with putting his unique, brilliant, existential vision on film. he was often the victim of pettiness and jealousy among the very moneyed class. it's amazing, frankly, that he accomplished as much as he did. ... he was a master of illusion and, not surprisingly, a lover of performance "magic" a la Blackstone, etc. ... above all: he was a dramatist extraordinaire.
The scene that gets me is when you see the sled being covered by snow, and you hear the train whistle in the distance as Charles is being taken away from his family. The train whistle sounds almost hysterically mournful, like a child crying.
You two would enjoy Battle Over Citizen Kane, documentary gives a very different reason why "rosebud" was significant to Hearst/ Davies affair , lol , many informative docs on this film Barry Norman did a good one too.
Welles continued to describe himself as a "maverick" [ see his acceptance speech at his American Film Institute Life Achievement Award ceremony in 1975 ]; while that characterization may be accurate, his greatest artistic achievements on film-Citizen Kane, The Magnificent Ambersons, Chimes At Midnight, Touch Of Evil, were unfortunately not commercial successes. Accordingly, Welles struggled throughout his illustrious career to get funding and "end money" for his projects, including King Lear, Don Quixote and The Other Side Of The Wind. He was compelled to take roles that diminished his talents and, as evidenced by the recent Henry Jaglom conversations book, he couldn't get the support of those actors in Hollywood who could have helped Welles obtain studio support for his films.
Instructive... but nota bene, next to nothing is said about the plot, the structure of the story, the meaning of "Rosebud," the meaning of Charles Kane, etc! It's all about the elements: sound, make up, editing, music, etc.
captaindrywal123 The problem with any actor playing Welles is the voice. No one can imitate it effectively. It's very unique, because it's somewhere between an alto and a bass, which almost nobody has; and his accent is a very refined East Coast one that doesn't really exist anymore. Most actors who've done it just pitch low and hope for the best. Strangely enough, Kelsey Grammar's voice is actually somewhat similar, but I can't think of anyone else. Maurice LaMarche has become famous for imitating it, but I really don't think it's very close.
The Sight and Sound poll really declined in the new millenium. Today its meaningless. Citizen Kane is still the best film ever made. To have it superseded by a 3 hour film with a woman sitting in her kitchen is kind of sick. And The Godfather films are not in its class either. In his first film, Welles took directing to a point that no other American has ever matched, forget surpassed. He did this in both sound and visuals. Toland's photography alone revolutionized the cinema. The last sequence of the film is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, ever shot.
It's a great film but it's not the best. The world of cinema is vast, there's too much out there in order to say what is number one. Even among Welles' films, I wouldn't call Kane the best. That would be The Trial because it throws conventional narrative rules out the window. That was a dream in the cinematic language and I get far greater emotional impact from that film than Kane.
Five greatest films throughout history (my guess) in no particular order: Citizen Kane Vertigo The Shawshank Redemption The Godfather & The Godfather Part II Star Wars: Episode V - Empire Strikes Back
City Lights, The General, Gone With the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Goodfellas, Dr Zhivago, The Last Emperor, Annie Hall, Paths of Glory, Lawtence of Arabia, LA Confidential,
the middle chunk of Kane is tedious, but the first 30 minutes and the last in the castle are fantastic: I can watch those first and last over and over and just skip the middle don;t know where I;d put it but sure as hell it would not be my favorite or even overall as good as Touch of Evil Quenlin is for me a much greater creation than Kane, though Cummingore is a fabulous actor, without her Kane would have no heart
The much-missed Barry Norman. He *was* the film expert to me as I was growing up.
all the money in the world couldn't buy my childhood...that's what this amazing movie is saying... best movie ever made
exactly, in few words
Fascinating. We could have a lovely dysfunctional relationship together. 🤣
Welles’ great genius lay in inciting and encouraging the genius in others.
🌞you’re right! Orson often spoke about folks who helped him along the way
Orson was obsessed with putting his unique, brilliant, existential vision on film. he was often the victim of pettiness and jealousy among the very moneyed class. it's amazing, frankly, that he accomplished as much as he did. ... he was a master of illusion and, not surprisingly, a lover of performance "magic" a la Blackstone, etc. ... above all: he was a dramatist extraordinaire.
Thanks for posting this very interesting documentary.
@0:50 Love the fruit next to Barry Norman. It sits there like Chekov's Gun.
Great movie. Listening to Welles in interviews is also a great experience.
The scene that gets me is when you see the sled being covered by snow, and you hear the train whistle in the distance as Charles is being taken away from his family. The train whistle sounds almost hysterically mournful, like a child crying.
You two would enjoy Battle Over Citizen Kane, documentary gives a very different reason why "rosebud" was significant to Hearst/ Davies affair , lol , many informative docs on this film Barry Norman did a good one too.
Favorite film? Citizen Kane.
Welles continued to describe himself as a "maverick" [ see his acceptance speech at his American Film Institute Life Achievement Award ceremony in 1975 ]; while that characterization may be accurate, his greatest artistic achievements on film-Citizen Kane, The Magnificent Ambersons, Chimes At Midnight, Touch Of Evil, were unfortunately not commercial successes. Accordingly, Welles struggled throughout his illustrious career to get funding and "end money" for his projects, including King Lear, Don Quixote and The Other Side Of The Wind. He was compelled to take roles that diminished his talents and, as evidenced by the recent Henry Jaglom conversations book, he couldn't get the support of those actors in Hollywood who could have helped Welles obtain studio support for his films.
brilliant last word on this from Orsen Welles.
You just look with wonder & delight on what he did and would say - Comprehensive Maverick
Instructive... but nota bene, next to nothing is said about the plot, the structure of the story, the meaning of "Rosebud," the meaning of Charles Kane, etc! It's all about the elements: sound, make up, editing, music, etc.
Di Caprio would be perfect to play Orson, which would make for a very interesting film.
Michael Shannon is my pick for him based on looks alone.
I'm just gonna throw this out there, Jack Black, now think about that for a second.
captaindrywal123 The problem with any actor playing Welles is the voice. No one can imitate it effectively. It's very unique, because it's somewhere between an alto and a bass, which almost nobody has; and his accent is a very refined East Coast one that doesn't really exist anymore. Most actors who've done it just pitch low and hope for the best. Strangely enough, Kelsey Grammar's voice is actually somewhat similar, but I can't think of anyone else. Maurice LaMarche has become famous for imitating it, but I really don't think it's very close.
@@hazeman671 Are you kidding? The number one quality required is intelligence.
Orson makes DiCaprio look whiny. Maybe he’d be good for a scene with Kane as a teenager?
Kane is literally me...
The Sight and Sound poll really declined in the new millenium. Today its meaningless. Citizen Kane is still the best film ever made. To have it superseded by a 3 hour film with a woman sitting in her kitchen is kind of sick. And The Godfather films are not in its class either. In his first film, Welles took directing to a point that no other American has ever matched, forget surpassed. He did this in both sound and visuals. Toland's photography alone revolutionized the cinema. The last sequence of the film is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, ever shot.
It's a great film but it's not the best. The world of cinema is vast, there's too much out there in order to say what is number one. Even among Welles' films, I wouldn't call Kane the best. That would be The Trial because it throws conventional narrative rules out the window. That was a dream in the cinematic language and I get far greater emotional impact from that film than Kane.
The Room is the best movie ever
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Five greatest films throughout history (my guess) in no particular order:
Citizen Kane
Vertigo
The Shawshank Redemption
The Godfather & The Godfather Part II
Star Wars: Episode V - Empire Strikes Back
City Lights, The General, Gone With the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Goodfellas, Dr Zhivago, The Last Emperor, Annie Hall, Paths of Glory, Lawtence of Arabia, LA Confidential,
Wow! When conservative Charlton Heston speaks out on liberal Hollywood , listen
the middle chunk of Kane is tedious, but the first 30 minutes and the last in the castle
are fantastic: I can watch those first and last over and over and just skip the middle
don;t know where I;d put it but sure as hell it would not be my favorite or even overall as
good as Touch of Evil Quenlin is for me a much greater creation than Kane, though
Cummingore is a fabulous actor, without her Kane would have no heart
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Nobody wants to see that guy talking so much....talking but not seen would have been much better.
Can't be boring 😴 folks ...we move on from dullesville 😉
Welles’ great genius lay in inciting and encouraging the genius in others.