How to Repair a Broken Carbon Fibre (Fiber) Fishing Pole or Rod
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
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Practical how-to instructional tutorial from Carbon Mods showing how you can repair a broken, fractured or damaged carbon fiber fishing pole or rod using carbon fibre and epoxy resin using our Fishing Pole Repair Kit. 
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Rod/reel combo with fishing kit as an emergency setup ruclips.net/user/postUgkxntWMOZsO1Zfv-pdn_XuffEtNkTYAYu4Z recommend but started to use this every day. The rod is thick and seems durable. I keep it neatly tucked into a regular backpack all the time with my fishing gear, and can grab it anytime, put it on my back and go anywhere. I just read in another review that the rod length below the reel is adjustable as well, so I will try that too for even more portability. Probably the best setup I've ever owned. I lost the cap for the eyelets, but no big deal since I still have the black cloth sheath that came for the pole and I use that. Very portable and high quality.
used it before to repair pole section,quite straightforward to do and was pleased with the finish.
saved me quite a few pounds not having to buy new sections.
Hi Mike, thanks for the feedback - I'm glad you got on well with it.
Just used this kit to repair my carbon road bike which had a snapped seat stay. Worked brilliantly, only comment I have is that I didn't know how long to use the heat gun on the shrink tape. I managed to get it quite tight so didn't see any obvious shrinkage under heat. Think I over heated it as it was a bit of a pain to get off. Fantastic kit and good video to follow. Many thanks.
+Stephen Boot Hi Stephen, Glad you liked the kit and the repair went well. The shrink-tape is quite deceptive, it only contracts a small amount but it puts a lot of pressure on the repair. Often people are expecting something more dramatic from the tape but in fact a few percent contraction creates a lot of pressure but is difficult to see. You're right though that overheating the tape will damage its self-releasing properties and make it difficult to remove. I suspect you applied quite a bit more heat than needed. Anyway, thanks for your comments and safe cycling!
Hey I know this guy!
... outstanding ... I learned something new! ... John
Yes, you can use a very similar process to make a basic repair to a damaged hockey stick. You would need to wrap more times round and you might choose to include some addition 'unidirectional' carbon material in the repair (the stick would have originally made at least some use of unidirection carbon) but the basics are the same. Get in touch with us through Easy Composites if you want more information.
Thanks for that Paul! Top class.
Excellent video 👏
@rapeta13 : What you 'fill' the break with can only really be epoxy resin or epoxy adhesive. Since there will be no fibre continuity through the break from the adhesive alone, this is only a small aspect of the strength of the repair. Once you've bonded the 'break' it would be time to put some additonal material around the outside of the break, in much the same way we do in this video. This is where you'll get the fibre continuity from.
@DeaderNBetter : Well, we've sold a fishing pole repair kit for over a year, I get calls every day from customers who need bits of it explaining to them. Hopefully this video should help them out (and help me out!) by making things a bit clearer. At Carbon Mods we specialise in all things carbon fibre so the videos are going to cover a wide range of topics. It's worth remembering that you could use this same technique to fix any broken carbon pole or similar (a bike frame for example).
@carbonmods Can the High Temp. repair kit be used to patch up small microscopic holes on the inside of a carbon rim to prevent air leaks?? Thank you...
could you use this on a standard 13ft match rod crack in the middle section? would this create a flat spot?
wow.. I am a badminton player , curious whether I can fix my Brocken carbonex raquet with this procedure
Yes, you can certainly do this, in fact it's a good technique. The other thing you can do is to apply a single thin strip of the epoxy resin from the kit in a line along the top of your tube, press the carbon onto the wet resin and ensure the cloth is supported such that it won't slide off while the resin dries and then it would be fine to leave it overnight to cure fully. Then, the next day you have your fabric 'anchored' in place and can proceed with the repair.
Yes, definately. The more carbon fibre you add, the stronger the repair will be. In the case of a bike-frame repair then we would certainly suggest adding plenty of reinforcement. On a fishing pole repair you wouldn't want to add too much extra strength because you'd end up with a 'stiff spot' in a pole that naturally has some bend in it.
I have a rod that has a very clean break 18" from tip so the diameter is only about 3/16" , is ther a finer carbon cloth?the cf cloth in the vid is way to thick for such a small repair.
@Carbonmods Many thanks for this great tutorial, I'm going to use this method to repair my carbon fiber bike frame. As I have en epoxy resin with a pot life of 5 hours, it would take a long time for the epoxy to go to the tacky state. I'm afraid the best moment to apply the 1st layer of fabric might even be during the night. Could I use a layer of household epoxy glue (pot life only 5 minutes) just as this 1st adhesive layer or will that somehow interfere with the curing of the proper resin?
can i fix all the parts of the pole with it? up until the last thin one? i'm afraid it will not slide in
Hi Kevin, I would suggest our Carbon Fibre Skinning Starter Kit - High Temperature for a repair to an exhaust can. The materials in the Fishing Pole Repair Kit are not designed for high temperature use.
will this work on a graphite reel foot on my reel?
The reason is that when a tube has been fractured or crushed then the fine balance of the unidirectional structure is compromised (sometimes further than you can see) and so it's important to add some 'hoop strength' to the tube at that point. We stock and use unidrectional reinforcement every day but making a repair like this using UD just doesn't work anywhere near as well as using a woven cloth.
Thank you for the services you have provided to my people.
The sad truth is, before this video came long, we were nearly extinct. I'm actually the last of us inanimate versions. While we can't physically move or bend, our durability and telekinetic and pyschic abilities are still unmatched.
With this revelation, and others like it, we have rebuilt our simple way of life causing interstellar hazards and then unsuspectingly preventing the fatal outcomes (angering otherwise docile male workers in the process).
Kudos to you, and all like you.
Sir,
I tried to fix my bicycle like this but it broke down why I don't know please explain me sir,
I think it is hallow bar or I should fill something inside to reduce the strain and increase its strength.
Please explain sir.
Would a triple wrap aid strengthen the repair - I have a chainstay on a road bike that needs repairing?
so good
how long do you heat with a heat gun?
@SEAWEEDER1 Carbon fibre is much stronger that glass fibre (which is why poles are generally carbon, not glass) and so to restore the same strength back to the pole it's important to use carbon. Glass tissue is not structural so won't add any strength. Polyester resin will bond very badly to the epoxy matrix of the pole, you really need to use epoxy. JOB DONE and JOB DONE RIGHT aren't always the same thing.
Hi guys. I have cracks in the rear swing arm of my full suspension mountain bike. It is quite a complex area to work on and repair with rounded projecting parts that hold the bearings that have hairline cracks where they join the main body of the swingarm. I have ridden the bike for a year and the cracks have grown about 1mm in this time. How many layers would you apply over the area, and is there anything further I can do to strengthen the cracks before carrying out the repair? Is the fishing rod kit the best produce to use in a complex area of a bike frame? Also, I don't have a heat gun, but I do have a blow torch. Can I use this at a distance?
Thanks in advance. Jonny
Hi Jonathon, please get in touch with us through technical@easycomposites.co.uk and we can advise you in more detail on something like this.
@DeaderNBetter : No offense taken! - I understand this one is a bit left-field compared to our other videos. We have guides on resin infusion, pre-preg (dry carbon), cutting and shaping parts and a new skinning/wrapping guide all either filmed or ready to be filmed too so expect lots more carbon fibre advice coming very soon!
Would this repair kit repair a carbon fiber exhaust pipe, as the exhaust gets quite hot. Thanks Kevin.
HI Guys, just repaired my mountain bike and it worked brilliantly, however I am struggling to get the finish to be anything other than matt, even using the polishing compound, what am I doing wrong? Cheers
+Pierre Thomas Hi Pierre, you probably need a bit more resin over the top of the repair. It depends how much you flatted the repair before you polished it. If you have rubbed down through the very thin layer of resin coating the fibres then when you use the polishing compound you're really trying to polish the carbon fibre itself which won't work, you can only get a shine on the resin, not the carbon. To do an overcoating now you'll need to 'key' the surface (so, get it back to an 800 grit) and ensure it's free of grease and dirt and then you can paint over a layer of resin on its own and then you'll find you can flat and polish that to much better effect.
Hi looks like you have a better understanding in repairs with carbon fiber then I do ;). anyways let me ask would it be ok to repair a carbon fiber panel using resin and fiber glass if it will be painted anyways? Looking to repair the interior of a carbon fiber hatch on a car instead of replacing it with costs and arm and a leg. The carbon look doesn't matter as it is not visible anyways. not sure if it will bond to each other and hold for 10-20 years or so.
It should be okay, yes, although I'd be sure to heavily key the area and then use an epoxy resin and suitable glass fibre (to work with Epoxy Resin). Epoxy bonds much better than a polyester would.
Can You tell me what the carbon sheet used in the video is called please I’ve looked on the website and there are various options. I need a fabric that doesn’t easily fray so I can do a 2 inch wrap on several fishing pole sections that can be 7mm drilled and a small bung inserted
It is our 90g ProFinish Carbon Fibre cloth/fabric, you can find it by following the link: www.easycomposites.co.uk/90g-profinish-plain-weave-1k-carbon-fibre-cloth
If I was trying to form carbon fiber rails for a camera system could I just lay my carbon fiber over a piece of conduit or pvc and then lay the resin and then pull the pipe or pvc out?
Hi, I am repairing rods, I would like to buy the Jig where he is securing the rod part. Do you sell it? I didn`t found it in your website. minute 2.21 of the video. thanks
We don't sell it no but there is a guide to show how to make it yourself.
Gloves are pretty uncommon when sanding composites (the dust just finds its way into the gloves and generally becomes more irritating that working without them). A mask would be a good idea if you do break down into the carbon when sanding. As you can see there was little dust disturbed into the air on this occasion; it's your choice.
Can this same process be successfully applied on one piece hollow core carbon fiber hockey stick shaft and or stick blade repair ?
In theory yes as its the same concept of repairing a hollow structure. You may need to increase the number of layers though so as to ensure you put back adequate strength.
I just use fibreglass and then add fibreglass tissue (both applied this resin) sand down when hardened and varnish the repair area.....total cost £5 and a time repair of 5hrs. Look for a PVC fabricator in you area and slip them £5 for the stuff to do it. JOB DONE.
HI guys. I have a carbon fiber mountain bike. I have noticed that the rear wheel is rubbing against the rear swing arm and is slighting cutting into the carbon. Can I use your product as a form of sacrificial part that can be fixed onto the frame and wear instead of the frame? Thanks in advance, Jonny
+Jonathan Howson Hi Jonny, yes, definately. Adding a wrap of carbon around the outside of your swingarm using the process shown in the video (and the materials included in the kit) would be a very good way to replace the warn carbon and act as a sacrificial surface that you could re-wrap in the future.
+carbonmods Thanks a lot. I guess all the liquids etc are sealable so I can use them again at a later data? Do you know how thick a layer would be in total? Also, what are the dimensions of he carbon that come in your pack? Thanks, Jonny
i want it!!!
Could this be used on any type of Carbon product? I’ve got a compound bow that I need to try and fix.
The repair method could however, be aware that with a bow, a repair of this nature may alter the fundamental feel and mechanics of the limb itself so it might not work in the same way as it did pre-break.
Do ye sell it on eBay?
Hi guys ! Can i use this for the top kits of the pole just to add more strenght in an area that i want to drill a hole to fit a side puller sistem? Thank you !
Yes Certainly! Fitting side puller kits is one of the common applications for this kit other than actual break repairs. Generally for the pulla reinforcement you will only need one wrap of fabric around each place you wish to drill.
Thank's for the reply and advice!
andrei vlad Mate how diid it go with the kit ?
Now no more 747 plane. I make my own carbon fibre. Now give me instructions with the right thing?
indeed
Any idea when the kits will be back in stock please
We don't supply them through our CarbonMods website any more but they are available on our www.easycomposites.co.uk website.
If the pipe was release coated then in theory yes. It may need a lot of force to break the vacuum and surface tension. A PVC pipe should be suitably flexible though. Another way is to cut the pipe length ways and tape over the cut with Flash Breaker Tape to seal it. That way you can lever the PVC pipe away from the carbon surface along the line of the cut to help release it.
Can i use this one for my carbon fiber SUP paddle ?
+geoland22 Yes, absolutely. The process would be the same. Remember that you need to match the wall thickness of the original tube with the wall thickness of the repair so if it was a 1mm wall thickness on the paddle then you'd need several layers of the lightweight carbon we use in this kit.
This is better for carbon fiber bike repairs
Hello, do you deliver this kit for Bulgaria?
We can do yes, no problem.
What spray can you use to build up the male joints on a pole
Its not something we really have any involvement with unfortunately. I would imagine an automotive paint or lacquer could be used quite successfully assuming you're only needing to build up a fraction.
@@carbonmods yeah due to the male joints wears big down it could do with having a coat of restorer to build it up
Would this work to rebuild worn Male rod spigot
It would be difficult to ensure the tolerance; if its worn sufficiently, adding a single layer would put around 0.2mm with the resin coating and may be okay but if its just a slight amount of movement, I would guess it will be too thick to have the next section sleeve over it.
can you repair bend javelin
Hi is it possible to put a thread into carbon tube
You could use a threaded insert bonded into the tube but we don't recommend cutting a thread into Carbon (or any other composite) material as this tends to both weaken the structure and the threads themselves are not particularly strong so tend to shear when used. A suitable bond in insert works well though.
Great video... some naïve questions please - try not to laugh!
For pole puller wraps ONLY - there's a few DIYers on youtube that are clearly not as good at delivering a neat job like you, especially with fraying issues...
(1) Would it be easier for DIYers to use the edged 50mm tapes to avoid cutting/fraying issues? If so, would you use your plain weave or unidirectional tape?
(2) Could your 'braided tube/sleeve' product be cut to length and slid down the tube with any success or would the frayed ends be worse to combat?
(3) Is it possible to 'mask' either side of the wrap to avoid the resin overspill for a neater finish?
(4) Would it be successful to use your pre-made 1mm thick tubes that you sell, cut them to 50mm, sand a chamfer, slide them down the pole and bond them in place? I imagine that the 0.1mm pole taper would be lost in the bonding glue/resin? What bonding agent would you use? Note: there is a similar 'tube' concept used by 'vespe'. It looks like a piece of plastic conduit!
1) You certainly could use either although the premise is to stop any through'holes from cracking to the end of the section so a woven material would generally be a better option as its putting reinforcement in two planes. That being said, the material in the kit is 'ProFinish' so can be cut into really neat strips without the sort of fraying you would see with normal carbon fibre.
2) In theory yes but the ends tend to fray more so the neat edge isn't as easily achieved.
3) Not really, you could try with a resin release tape (such as our Flash Tape) as the resin won't bond to either face of this BUT its likely to fracture the new resin when you remove it and you'd also be left with a hard-step at the edge rather than a smooth transition.
4) This could work but bear in mind that most adhesives require a degree of thickness to achieve good bond strength so you'd need to account for about 0.4-0.5mm clearance all the way around and then somehow keep the tube and section concentric so it doesn't end up lopsided.
Anyway to get this in the US? The shipping seemed a bit prohibitive. Thx
Hi Ben, we can ship it but the problem is that as it contains dangerous goods, even though they're in very small quantities, it has to travel on a hazardous goods service; currently only FedEx offer one between the UK and US and they charge a HazMat handling fee of £55.00 (approx. $90.00) on top of the shipping charge so its really expensive. As this fee is fixed, for very large orders, it doesn't seem so bad but for smaller or lower cost items, it can be prohibitively expensive unfortunately.
@@carbonmods Thx for your response. Can you point me in any direction for products in the US?
@@benleaf4066 I'm afraid we don't specifically work with anyone stateside; we may one day look to branch out over there though but in the meantime, you're looking for a good quality epoxy laminating or coating resin. Avoid anything for countertops or casting work but if its for use with Carbon Fibre, it should be fine.
Hello Carbon mode!
I am live in Cambodia. I want to buy all materials to repair my rod pole. How do i do?
We could ship you the composite reinforcements (Carbon Fibre) plus any tools but unfortunately, we cannot send the resin to you at present because no courier offers a Hazardous/Dangerous Goods service between the UK and Cambodia so we're unable to get it to you. You would need to find a good quality equivalent Epoxy Laminating Resin from a local supplier.
Thanks
Where can I order this fishing rod repair kit from
www.easycomposites.co.uk/fishing-pole-repair-kit
@DeaderNBetter Random but usefull
@carbonmods Ah cheers then, I wasn't trying to be negative btw ^^
Hi wer can I get the carbon fiber and what the thiknes of the carbon fiber
+blend kuqi @ You can purchase the carbon fibre cloth from our Easy Composites Ltd website at www.easycomposites.co.uk. In this kit we use a very special 90gsm ProFinish 1K Carbon Fibre which is just 0.1mm thick, per layer.
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+Michelle Mueller . hi I like to make a very strong fishing rod 4m long action 150g ( like zziplex M4 ) can you suggest me the right carbon fiber to choose pleas. I intend to reinforce a existing 4m fishing pol with low action with at least 3 other layer.
@carbonmods he dose not have gloves on when sanding,but your right about the mask.
you definitely need to insert the insert and only then do the stick. because sticking a stick like this and connecting it with some rags is really nonsense. remember you need an insert to connect the two sides. young you will learn I hope
The polishing I received is complete different what show on the video, everything is fine but not happy with the polished.
Hi John, since we made this video we've made a number of improvements to the Fishing Pole Repair Kit; Such as: (1) The abrasive paper is now top-end Mirka paper (2) The carbon is now a very high-end 90g ProFinish (3) The resin is our updated EL2 Laminating Resin ..... and (4) We have upgraded the polishing compound to the Pai Cristal NW1 Black which is a special polishing compound for carbon fibre. It's basically the best product on the market for polishing natural finish carbon fibre and so I'm suprised that you don't like it. In what way are you not happy with it?
Carbon Mods After dry, i sanded very smooth with 800 and in the end 1200 grit, I polished with the new compound but is like 'blury'
thanks
Hi John, OK, it sounds like the sanding operation has gone fully down into the carbon fibre itself (which is quite common). When this happens it's not possible to make the carbon itself 'shine', it's only possible to make the resin shine (no matter what polishing compound you're using). If you're looking for a more glossy finish then I would suggest that you apply an extra layer of resin over the top of the 800 grit finished pole, allow that to cure and then flat that resin layer with 800 and 1200 and then finish with polishing compound - this will give you a high gloss finish.
Carbon Mods thanks for the reply
I will do today and let u know. Just a question when I will pass a coat of resin need to wrap with the tape?
Using Bi-directional Fabric to repair uni directional parts? interesting....
How much ?
You can find all pricing on our website including shipping costs to your destination.
Dustmask for sanding the carbon? Its not wood man, its carbon... it causes lung injuries...
pretty random tutorials you guys do
Omg he's working with carbon fiber without a mask smh great way to hurt your lungs
Sanding carbon and no mask!
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gawd don't you use some sort of face mask when sanding that down?
This is all well and good.. But you cant pack the pole away, section into section because there will be resin inside the repair section stopping the section to fit into!!
Wast of time...
For a fishing rod that doesn't matter ..but in any event a rock solid repair beats throwing it in the trash yea?
High.Tech with a brush and waxed paper cups ???? Can´t believe. Another narcisit gurú.
What a shame.
Eh I'd just get a new pole. The repair will never make the rod respond the same way it would before the break. You'll just lose fish.
its a pole section dip shit not a tip section