*Explore MotorInc memberships at* youtube.com/@motorinc/join *Chapters* 00:00:00 Culture 00:02:30 Motorcycle Festivals 00:04:45 The Online Influence 00:07:00 Cultural Genres 00:09:15 The Early Influences 00:13:23 Consequences Incoming 00:15:10 Responsible Motorcycling 00:17:12 Courtesy & Patience I 00:19:05 Represent! 00:19:56 What We're Learning 00:21:44 Motorcyclists vs Bikers 00:23:01 The Bad Boy Streak 00:24:45 Courtesy & Patience II 00:26:53 Motorcyclists Are Vulnerable 00:27:42 Guided Behaviour 00:28:37 Say Hello 00:29:13 Be Quiet 00:30:23 Sportsbike Riders 00:34:57 Experience vs Ownership 00:36:09 Invest In Your Passion 00:37:50 Off-road Challenges 00:39:01 Be Considerate 00:43:25 Traffic & Patience 00:46:47 Ride Solo vs Groups 00:48:30 Crashes & First Aid 00:52:18 Bad vs Good Behaviour 00:55:05 Motorcyclist as Aspiration 00:56:37 Actively Humanise 00:58:32 Communicate! 01:00:55 Be Human 01:01:22 Be Welcome 01:02:58 Earn Respect 01:03:10 Welcome New Riders 01:04:56 The Next Episode 01:05:32 Closing Comments *More ThisConnect Season 02* ruclips.net/p/PLr0Tor0L-2JPpxurl244kAVAlXaoBZc7K *ThisConnect Season 01* ruclips.net/p/PLr0Tor0L-2JNPI1KPY-RL4EAQLGH_yDzr
I have been riding a motorcycle for the past 11 years. I always try to follow the traffic rules to the best of my abilities so that I can be in a safe space and not bother anyone around me. I bought a sports bike a few years back and became a part of a group that taught me a lot that I am missing. Yes, our motorcycle culture needs responsible people in it. Past 11 years I got only 1 ticket for my PUC. Be safe everyone.
The conclusion of be human at the end seems less, but honestly "simplest things are the hardest to do" ,but it's true, just be nice and kind to one another!
For yrs, struggled to find a group without folks who brag about how much they spent on accessories, or just want to race/rev. So 6am every Sat, I ride out with my wife on pillion for 3-4 hrs. We talk about how the week was, enjoy the sunshine, and so on. Life is good. That's our culture. Whenever you're in B'lore, pls join! 😊
This is the reason i havent join any group. But some good person i found on youtube and insta who help community like what can be worng search of good mechanic or any problem
I'm not a motorcyclist or an enthusiast, but my husband is. While he's out on a ride this Sunday morning, I decided to listen to your podcast, and I must say, it was a great decision. I wanted to drop a comment and express how wonderful it is to hear such meaningful conversations that are much needed in today's world. Your podcast not only makes me believe in the good side of people but also helps me better understand and trust my husband's motorcycling enthusiasm. Thank you for being a considerate motorcyclist and for encouraging youngsters to adopt this responsible behavior. I definitely feel safer on the roads knowing that you and your listeners are out there :)
Hi Raksha, your husband is a lucky guy. Thank you for being awesome and participating in this slice of his life. And thank you for writing in. Means a lot.
Raksha, it's nice to see someone understanding their spouse's passion and showing interest in them. I'm sure will be a responsible rider to make sure he comes home to you everyday.😊
Over my 35 years of riding on Indian roads, I find that truckers not only have a very tough job, more importantly they are the most considerate of all the drivers out there, so I've always made it a point not to hustle them and also to wave an acknowledgement or thanks when they give you space or let you overtake or warn you when not to overtake on blind turns, etc. The local, rural sub 3 ton Tata 407 and other smaller ones are at the other end of that spectrum. Those guys can and will try to kill you with absolute disregard, change lanes and take U turns and block your overtakes half way thru or block you in or swear to never ever look at their mirror. So it's important to distinguish and be kind to the former and be very wary of the latter kind, of course you can be kind to everybody to set a good example or atmosphere. Also that a double tap on the horn has a much better effect than multiple long single taps in grabbing attention. In fact long press on the horn usually has a hostile effect. Waving thanks or other pleasant gestures directed at the invisible drivers, even thru mirrors usually always sends a good vibe. Because on long highway trips, you may encounter the same vehicle somewhere later on the same road and there comes a sense of friendly familiarity rather than, there's that asshole again.
I'm with you on the truckers being considerate. There have been times when I'm stuck behind a bus/truck and if I want to overtake, the first thing I try to see is if the driver gives any hand signal. If says wait, I pull back, wait for a clearing from him. Once he does the had motion of go ahead, I overtake. But yes, do make sure to give him a wave or a thumbs up. It makes their day :)
I'm a MBBS passout currently doing internship at AIIMS And What Shumi said is absolutely on point The first thing to do in a crash is to check scene safety next is to check breathing and call for help Removing a helmet after crash is not something to be done at all if you are not familiar or know the basics of First aid
First few minutes itself Shumi nailed the image that bikers have even in their own family (organ donors, dangerous mode of transport, solo riding looks sad). I'm a late bloomer in terms of getting my license and getting into motorcycles. But I got pulled in hard immediately and now this is my best escape from the hectic work life. Thankfully instead of the algorithm recommending me "Vertical Videos" of people being "bosses", I got Strell, older Shumi and Karthik (PD and Zig), so I keep with calm riding styles with immersion as the priority. Big thanks to you guys for being the primary guides since I started 2 years ago. Also I wish riders here accepted all bikes instead of shooing certain models and their rider for the difference in taste. In the end it's all about that feeling right
There is this upcoming channel @AnuragSalgaonkar . Great Guy, follows all rules in Mumbai. while others violate. Wears full gear any time and everytime on a motorcycle. I also used to watch strell.
What a brilliant conversation! These are the kinds of conversations we should be encouraging. Even when I started motorcycling, I was very taken up by social media and I thought it was cool to do what everyone else was doing. Only after deeply reflecting and realising the amounts of risk I was putting myself and everybody else on the road did I realise that group rides aren’t my thing. I’d rather ride safely, and responsibly, than chase adrenaline at the risk of my life.
Sometimes solo rides makes us feel a lot safer especially when you're surrounded by some idiots in the form of friends. I did only one group ride as of now and the rest were solo. It was fun for me because I got the chance to talk to myself and also be considerate and patient while riding. Been doing this for a year and I swear at no point I felt boring. Motorcycling is all about experiences.
Big riding groups should stop expecting/ taking for granted and not demand that other vehicles have to move away for them to overtake... Senselesy flashing auxiliary power lights on them is not going to help anybody
Yesterday I did a round trip of around 320 km on my activa. Yes I've my limitations being on an activa on a super smooth highway i.e, sticking to the left lane at 60-70 kmph and giving way to faster vehicles(almost all vehicles are faster than me expect trucks) and yes I did it without compromising on my safety. Surely I don't have any riding gear as I'm jobless for few months hence my pocket isn't able to purchase me all the riding gear but I trusted my riding skills and my instinct such that I did no stupid things which might had put me at risk. This is more important than having or not having electronic aids on a motorcycle as a debate. Yes ABS should be the standard one and traction control if power > 40 bhp. For me motorcycling is all about stress relieving as well as meeting new people. Riding a motorcycle in full riding gear on a highway feels like heaven for me. One thing to note is motorcycling is a selfish hobby and not everyone in your family are gonna support it and that's fine. It's your job to convince them to follow your passion.
I know it's subjective, but this is one of the most important videos you guys have made till now. Everyone, motorcyclist or not, everyone needs to watch this, and the learnings can be implemented in our day to day. "How you do anything is how you'd do everything" May this community keep growing.
What a beautiful simple conversation. I remember taking an oath not to honk unless there is a life threatening situation after the second wave completely comes from this school of thought. I have seen seniors and other citizens thanking me with a simple gesture for just allowing them to cross the road. A long days riding to and from the office just vanishes instantly. Its that powerful.
Shumi, I know you said you don't like to organize but I have a suggestion. You talked about similar minded ppl who are passionate about bikes (Anand,Zen,Zubin,Kunal,Josh). If you bring these ppl together to one of the episodes of ThisConnect to talk about motorcycles in general, that would be a great experience for the viewers. Just give it a thought. I know the usual style of ThisConnect is you two guys talking to each other but think about these ppl and you guys talking together in the finale episode of this season. That would be a banger of an episode and a great way to end the season.
I'm a 23 years old, working and some months back I purchased my first motorcycle, Meteor 350. I totally agree with the biker culture you pointed out, sadly I was also influenced by it, I used to think drag races are cool, red lining the Enfields is way to go and unfortunately I did it on my Meteor as well. But later on youtube somehow recommended your videos and alongwith some other podcasts which I watched, I had lots of realizations about the way I'm riding is wrong and how it's affecting my motorcycle and other people who are driving as well. It's hard to find videos that teach you something good. I've still lots of things to learn but I'm happy that I'm atleast out of that culture and became more empathetic towards other folks. Keep posting such podcasts and contents, your experiences teaches me alot of things.
It feels like if there were to be motorinc member groups in Pune / Mumbai / Banglore etc. Alot of us would have similarish mentalities and have a great time during weekend meetups or rides.
Skoda have introduced a membership you can join even if you don't have a skoda and as far as I have heard about it they organize events for their members as well .
Most of them would be really good individuals, but I don't think a group of 30 year old men (avg.) who think they know better than everyone about riding is going to work out. The more peculiar & cautious you get, the more difficult it is to enjoy a social company. Best case scenario would be leave your bikes at home, chat for a while about stuff & go back.
Yesterday, i sold off my Victor to my colleague & took the delivery of new NS200 😁 ❤. I’m super happy about it. Thank u schumi sir, for all your advice & videos. Forever greatfull 🙏🏼 Hope he reads this comment. Not just the team alone 😊
just be alone and do what you love. I love cars and bikes and I don't belong to any biker club or car club. I love them all and I love to be alone as it's peaceful. Don't do anything just because society does it.
I just passed my French driving licence. This first aid topic are basic chapter mandated in our driving theory test called "Code de la route" Only when we pass this test we can be present in the practical driving exam. for a motorcycle/Car crash the basic answer for us is don't move the persons until emergency services arrive at the scene & unless they are not breathing/having a cardiac arrest/or fire, drowning in the river do not attempt to free or rescue them. after this only experience I've learnt the reasons not to move people who have just got into an accident.
Man I didn't even realised it was 1 hour 6 mins long. Great Conversation as Usual and Great Video. 1. The knowledge of Shumi is just on another level and, in my opinion, unmatched. I know his Motorcycle Database is as big as Wikipedia but his knowledge on other subjects and ability to acknowledge the different prespective of same topic is admirable. I like his realistic approach to things, being honest about his opinions and opinions which are as striking as Point Blank Shots. My favourite dialogue of his is " You don't have to agree with me eventhough I think I am right". 2. I think even if you are a teenager, you can understand what is stupid and what is right. I used 'Don't Recommend', 'Not Intrested' and 'Report' more than anyone and I used those options 90% on a "BIKER CONTENT" than anything less. By that I started going for more better and real Motorcycle content made me discover Shumi, Karthik, Sagar , Rishaad and many great motorcyclist out there. My RUclips, which subscribed 30 something BIKE Channels in past now have 5 Great Channels that give me Great Motorcycle Insights and Motorinc is at P1. 3. I can relate to Shumi's story of people being nice to him for a great motorcyclist. Once I was parked on side of road checking who called me. I saw a Car driver ( I think it was an Hyundai Eon ) who was going to take U turn. Its a 2 lane road and from my limited knowledge of driving I had then, I knew he would need to Reverse if I don't move. The only thing I did was I moved my Scooter just a small distance forward and went back to my phone. That man stopped beside me after completing the U-Turn and said "Thank You" and It made my day. So Being nice on road makes you feel better. 4. I do same thing as Karthik when somebody do something stupid infront of me, I think It's somebody close to me. If that''s a gentleman at his 40s and 50s, I automatically thinks it is somebody like my Father or if it is a teen boy doing some mistake ( not stupidity ) I automatically thinks it's my brother. It calms my emotions and canfocus. I would rather focus on my Driving and Riding rather than spending my emotions on them. 5. I like the nice touch of Shumi having Motorinc logo on his Watch. 6. I think Motorinc should start merch with Shumi Quotes. I would buy the ones with these " It's not like that there are such dumb humans who don't even learn from their own mistakes." and " I don't think human beings are dumb. I think everybody has a brain. Some people just refuse to use it and that's a Problem."
This is the most important "This Connect" you have made yet. . Again Shumi is my spirit animal. I so match with the things he said ... . I am a Motorcyclist that rides KTM DUKE 390... Yes, my next bike is going to be even more powerful... But I will consciously & actively avoid causing any frustration to another biker or a driver.
I love the intent and content delivered by MotorInc and this is one of the best episode you guys have produced. This really hits home, because when my father taught me to ride his Splendour, he was adamant that I get the learner's permit first and a helmet, plus he made sure I use the indicators while turning and respect the signal. Now I'm much more ethical rider than him. Anyway, there is a class of youth, the one which cannot be bothered to watch a channel like yours or who can comprehend English, can really use this kind of message to improve their riding habits, what are your thoughts on bringing this message to that youth?
Being a good human being (rider) is so underrated. My father always used to say "your respect is in your own hands". Today's bikers need to understand over speeding, doing stunts on roads, over revving engines and riding while wearing shorts and slippers is just attracting bad name to the community. You want to do outrageous stuff, go book a track. Spare the drama for roads.
I used to live in the interior of Saki Naka up until a few months ago. To go to work, I had to first cross the main road on which there would be heavy traffic going from Andheri to BKC. I did a test where I forcefully pushed my bonnet into the oncoming traffic when I found an opportunity vs. putting down my window and showing this gesture 🤌🏼 to allow me to pass. I was stunned to find 8 times out of 10, even BEST buses and autos would wait for me to pass if I'm patient.
Needed to hear this today. I ride a std 350 and never ride rashly. Today I uncharacteristically made a few swerves to beat the afternoon traffic, startling a few passing cars. I'd been feeling bad about it the whole day and somehow hearing you guys talk empathetically about it makes me feel better and want to be better.
My dad has been a lifelong driver had a small stint as trucker and he faced worst treatment as a trucker, people hurl abuses for no good reason.. or just bcoz they occupy a bigger part of road.. his experience has made me retrospect my feelings on the road and made me a more compassionate rider.. I have also seen motorcyclist getting better and courteous of other vehicles.. high hopes for us..
Let's be honest about bengaluru traffic cops... When they are out to make a quick buck it doesnt matter whether you are on a superbike or a cycle... They will extricate their pound of flesh...
@@HrithikVaibhav No, it's something to do with members only/members first content. Even RUclips Premium users can't lock their phone and listen. RUclips Music allows this. However I can't access the podcast there even though I have their membership and RUclips Music. Hope MotorInc can help fix that. Would really like to listen to S & K while cleaning my bike.
This whole conversation reminded me of this. Back in 2016, I took my bike on a long road trip. Starting from Delhi to Dwarka, then covered west coastal roads till last point, then came back up to the eastern corner via coastal roads again. I did it during monsoon period and because of that, I've seen this country in its most beautiful avatar. I only had a good helmet and shoes to protect myself and was driving under 90-100 for most time, only stretching to 90-100 for frequent overtakes if I have to. I didn't had a smartphone so I wasn't assisted with GPS either. All I did during that trip was seeing this country, talking to new people, eating local food, and be there. Once I finished it, I was welcomed by a lot new people, bikers, etc. who wanted me to join their groups. I never joined any group nor did a group trip as I used to say (and still believe) that I'm not a biker. I wanted to travel this country and that bike was my cheapest way to do so, and I clocked 11,000 KMs in about 60 days. After that, I had done a similar trip in a tempo traveller and have been doing similar trips on bus, truck, train and now car. Traveling is my core agenda, setting records on vehicle is not. And the benefit coming out of it is that I have never met a single accident.
I'm still riding RTR 180 :) still a believer of Yamaha with my past experiences. Still consider to buy R3, if i'll have a throw away money in my pocket.
Hey eelongMast! We're working on the R3 story. The short version is that it is way too much money for the bike for us to recommend it. However, it's a sweetheart of a bike. If you get one, you won't regret it.
An hour long video which insightful information on where we motorcyclists stand and what we need to do. Respect is always earned by what we do and not what we have.
I picked up bad behaviour and here i am , I overtooked rickshaws roaring my engine and 2nd gear knowing that those guys were trying their best to take their vehicle fast enough on a uphill colony road , i got impatient and irritated but i should not have done that , seeing other people do it felt im not good enough in overtaking i felt a lack of skill which is okay because im a beginner i should have been more considerate, I got my ego hurt when 2 guys on a access passed my on a ghat hill section with such a pace i could not keep up and i felt bad ( How can a scooter of 125 with double riding be so fast and im on a bike wtf) instead of chasing them i should have continued riding on my pace which is was comfortably riding as a beginner, later further on my commute a chetak electric one smoked me on highway zoomed from right and passing between 2 trucks like a idiot but that time i thought woah i lack that skill how is this guy so fast although he was a idiot i was surprised of how he was alive and passing others while in the process i chased him couldn't keep up i felt like a chapri to be honest i got humbled. But i will be more patient and considerate while encountering such people and mind my own pace. I will never try to race anyone but seriously getting smoked by a access with two people on it feels so bad 😂. And when people check turing their head behind is even more triggering. I'll follow that stay below peak torque tip maybe for safe overtakes. Seriously i need to control my ego on my motorcycle.
Thanks for trying to do better @shantanupawar3609, we'd just like everyone to remember that we're all just trying to get somewhere and aren't on a race with each other... There is no winning or losing to happen there.
I am 21 years old and planning to start long rides next year after purchasing a proper bike and gear. I prefer cruising and don't enjoy high speeds. The only thing that concerns me is that I'm not very social and don't have a group of friends interested in long rides. The thing I am unsure about is I'll be riding solo, and in case of any mishap, whether there will be anyone who knows what to do and also whether I will enjoy solo riding, but I'll have to try it first to find out. And this episode has helped me to understand that even if I am a solo rider how I can ensure my own safety while respecting others space. Truly Motorinc as a channel is taking steps towards creating a better riding and driving culture. Thank You.
Its a simple thing brother. Even I was in your phase 1 year ago. Just go for a 200 km ride solo and note down your observations. Try to replicate this multiple times. If you feel comfortable and safe, you'll probably have a great time riding solo. What I noticed while in a group is I have to take multiple stops be it fuel or food or selfies. I'm not that kind of a person hence I choose solo. Even if you are planning for a group, try to make maximum of 4 people. It will make your experience significantly better as you'll have loads of fun together without compromising on safety. I wish you great motorcycling. BTW what bikes have you shortlisted?
@@suryateja2k11 thank you for your advice. Currently I haven't taken any test drives but I always wanted to buy Honda Hness but recently scrambler 400x has caught my eye 😅 I hope test drives will make it clear but you might have got an idea about my taste. Btw which bike do you own? And if anything you would like to suggest in the budget of scrambler 400x?
@@pranitg6036 I currently don't have any bike but even I'm planning for Hness CB350. Even 400X is on my radar but the price jump from 2.6L to 3.3L is little bit difficult for my pocket. And the maintainence is a tiny bit expensive in case of 400X. CB350 is built to last as its Honda and offers better mileage. Take both test rides and if possible rent them for few hundred kms and come to conclusions as showroom test rides aren't the correct way. First of all know what is the cruising speed you'e gonna travel at. If its under 100 kmph then Highness will serve the purpose fine without compromising on fuel efficiency. Pick scrambler if your travel includes mild off roading. In that case scrambler makes you comfortable. Even the cruising speeds of scrambler is similar to Highness i.e, 90-110 kmph but the mileage will be slightly less. Happy mile munching.
At the age of 22 you dont start doing long rides that too solo. Ride for couple of more years. Clear ur basics on braking and awareness first by riding around ur city in every kind of traffic. This generation wants to do everything in a hurry that too on their parent's money!
I got my first motorcycle at 24, met with an horrible accident from which I came unscathed due to the gear. The accident was due to no fault of mine and the trauma caused was so brutal I have intense paranoia on roads even on scooters, I only drive five star rated NCap(whatever that means) German cars now such that my highway mileage is 20Km/L. I know to be patient and considerate but the problem is I dont think it is reasonable to expect them same of other drivers on our roads, the accident effectively killed my motorcycling dream simply because I know there are rash drivers out there and skillfull, pateint and considerate driving alone doesn't ensure my safety on a motorcycle. The near misses in our country is the norm rather than an exception.
Didn't know that all these simple things I do everyday has to be told and taught to motorcyclists. My dad taught me to be patient from the start itself.
Cam I boast about something here.?!?? I have not tested top speed of my dominar. I now own it for almost 3 and half years. Forget top speed, may have crossed 130 like maybe 10-12 times and never because I wanted to touch 130, it was natural for may be a overtake or an empty stretch of highway. I am not scared of testing top speed. It's just I never wanted to test it. There is no reason to test it. But many people have asked me and I have told them I am not gonna ride at 140+ than what will I get testing it. Any way to anyone who think I am scared, I always clarify that I have burst my pulsar engine by riding 120 speed from kochi to pondicherry before dominar. And that is why I ugraded. I have done 1lakh+ kms of riding mostly solo in 5 years.. So I can ride 130-140 but I think it's not safe and why would I ride unsafe.. Some rules that I learnt from riders like you are: may be some from shumi also. Never mix alcohol with riding. Ride within your and your surrounding environment limit. Ego is never ever required during ride. I would rather loose to a splendor that putting that splendor guy's life in danger chasing me. You are as fast as slowest guy in group. So plan accordingly. Follow rules as much as possible. Always ready to learn and consider yourself learner. Biggest one is be patient. It doesn't cost much time. Maybe few seconds here and there. P.S. I am scared of ridingmy father's scooter at 40-50+ speeds. It's just feels unsafe. I don't know how shumi drives them at 70 or 80.. 😮😮😮
I rode between Coimbatore to Dhanushkodi 800km up and down. A solo rider on my Jawa 42. I'm solo rider who has a bias against group riding (specifically superbike rides). As Shumi said, I'm a rider who enjoys riding consistently below the peak torque. On the way to Dhanushkodi I saw a group of riders riding litre class bikes including harleys (with hard luggages performing unnecessary lane changes quickly). I was at 80+ consistently. The group riders passing me at 100+ with loud exhausts. I was like, let me stick to my plan and not get distracted. Just before Ramanathapuram on the National Highway I was just about to enter the district and 5 kms away. In the road I could clearly see rain lashing my route, I just stopped wore my rain jacket, and started riding peacefully. I dropped my speed to 60+km. I saw these guys on large bikes standing under a tea shop just waiting for the rain to stop. Once I was past the rain and 30 minutes gone past and sitting at 80+, I again saw these riders, again riding past me at 100+ km. When I reached Rameswaram. I again saw these guys waiting for the rain to stop and by that I went past these guys and reached my destination. My takeways here are these. 1. Their riding character made me think - these guys have a very narrow view or idea about super bikes or high performaning bikes. These guys could've easily managed the rain comfortablly with the available safety electronics and reduced speed. Riding super bikes doesn't necessarily mean you need go quick and fast always with loud exhaust. The goal there was just to ride fast and show off. 2. Now I see how great it is to ride below peak torque and sit at comfortable spead and pace. How beautiful and peaceful it is. Thanks to Shumi. 3. Going quick and fast is just a very minor part of the motorcycle culture and unfortunately that is what is shown on social media. I hope this podcast reach the right people to spread awareness on responsible motorcycle culture.
Reaching the end of the video, I enjoyed it, but I still disagree. New Zealand has a much smaller population, hence they can afford the luxury of being nice to motorcyclists/biker. India has a much much higher population density.
All the more important for us to do better Shantanu. That is just a ripe opportunity to let people form bad opinion faster about people who ride motorcycles, don't you think?
I completely reject the "concern". What you are describing is the human condition, nothing to do with bikes or cars. The majority of humans are **** ups. There are tourists and then there are "bloody tourists". This entire episode can be captured by just saying "Don't be a bloody tourist". The same thing can be observed in Goa, where the bloody tourist always acts like an a***hole in Goa. The bad biker are just this, "bloody bikers"
May be so Shantanu but we're thinking in a broader context here. Let's take the tourists example. Sure, there are good tourists and bad tourists and ideally, people shouldn't profile everyone as the same. But that's not what happens, is it? Because of their past experiences, people might be hesitant or worse still outright deny hospitality to the next person, however good they themselves might be. The same seems to be happening to the motorcyclists community right now and we'd like for people to realise that and do better before a bad opinion is stamped on all of us. We can't say "I didn't do this so why am I getting impacted?". Humans as a species are evolved to recognise and brand unideal situations and protect themselves so, everyone has to want to do better. We hope this makes sense.
33:23 The way Shumi's expressing his concerns about motorcycling tells how worst can the culture get driven by the so called biking culture. Till now I thought that motorcycling and biking are no different but from now, I consider myself as a motorcylist as I respect other drivers around me. Being considerate and patient are the core principles that makes a motorcyclist and whenever I see somebody in full riding gear, having pizza boxes(top box) and revving the nuts of their engines, I feel bad about us how we are represented to everyone as as***le community and bla bla...bla. When I saw IBW for the first time online, my perception was "Are these people representing us as motorcyclists by revving the nuts of their engines and riding like assholes?". I think it's time every passionate motorcyclist comes together and show everyone what real motorcycling is so that atleast the future enthusiasts gets the chance to ride on some of the best expressways in India. We are already suffering from this hence I request everyone to teach right principles to their fellow riders which will make motorcycling beautiful. Hence lets make motorcycling fun and beautiful again!! Shall we?
thank you both uncles and your team ... another amazing video... it's always a learning experience listening to your podcasts and watching your other videos... just makes my day... I love you guys... hehe...
I always make sure I enter and leave certain areas quietly on my stock exhaust sports bike. One day a father was walking his kid in the building and as he sees me, he closes his kids ears with his hands. I saw that and made me realise what he must have heard before. I even pulled in the clutch to be extra quiet while passing them.
Like Austria, even the Bengaluru-Mysore expressway is banned for 2 wheelers, you’ll have to take the service road which have hundreds of speed breakers! 21:44
Been on a couple of group rides.. didn't enjoy it .. a lot what I experienced was 1.herd mentality one idiot in the group, everyone in the ride ended up being idiots 2. No skill and behavioural update when it comes to riding, these guys all got big bikes but they ride and behave in exactly the same way as in a commuter bike. Now it's been years enjoying solo rides !!! Start before sunrise, get to your location before sunset and enjoy the locals.....
Shumi struggling to convey to the viewers n new riders to be proper gentlemen while daily riding a Duke, I kid I kid :P On a serous note group rides being riddled with A**holes is one of the reasons I actively never join them, anymore. Also the reason I never bought an orange bike even though I've always wanted to
13:56 Shumi Rocked , Audience Shocked , as he mentioned , to move around a city with proper riding gears and helmets will always draw unnecessary public attention and from day one of starting my motoring journey , iv'e consciously tried to avoid being that guy as shumi described !
If only there was some insta chatbot which could take this podcast as the dataset and only show me those reels that comply to the podcast guidelines....ig my reel feed would be very empty .....very few people following this kind of driving ....bad boy problems are a part of the culture indeed .
Hello Shumi and Kartikeya. I am a 24 years old, 1st generation "motorcyclist". I just want to use this platform to thank you guys for the everyday life lessons that you guys have provided me through your discussions. They have tangibly helped me to improve myself not just as a rider but also as a human being. Kudos to your goodwork and hope to bump into you guys someday!!
Thank you for being here. I hope you guys will be able to understand the infinite amount of gratitude, cheer, and other great things for you that are behind this one statement......but yeah, Thank you for being here.....
What a dilemma ….the ones who will be helped most from this can’t even understand this form of content. The ones who can understand it are more educated and considerate.
Agree with most of it, but there are certain undertones or axiomatic proclamations I disagree with. It is around the praise/acceptance of over -licensing culture that Europe & India have, with the talk of legislating bikers out of existence. For ex, in your Austria example, I fail to see how the people who blocked roads for 2 wheelers are good guys and not small tyrants. Similarly, while I agree with all the sentiment on being nice on public roads etc., the talk of "owning" the road by locals is just not the correct way to look at it. If my tax money is going to repair and maintain that road, should I not get any say in how it should be used? And if not, then please let the locals fund & maintain them, and I would be happy to pay toll & sign consent forms per use basis (if there is any road at all, that is). It is a mutually beneficial agreement we have, so assigning ownership & the "real right" sounds idiotic & doesn't lead to any good place. Lastly, while all the advice about not intimidating people on public roads is right, the converse is true as well. We, as Indians, are deeply resentful to people who are successful & happy (or both). A rider with decent bike wearing a gear checks all these boxes, and there is just repressed hatred towards this kind of person not because of what he does, but who he is. I have a measly MT15, and I get enough of "why you got this impractical bike" ques. I can't imagine what it must be for Duke or god forbid, Kawasaki guys. My point being, we as a culture, don't have any acceptance of an activity like leisurely bike riding/touring. So no matter how accommodating you try to be, they will still hate you
Well, biker groups in the west are, more often than not composed of blue collar workers or hoodlums. In india excepting a few, biker groups have wealthy guys who are the only ones who could afford a 8-10 lakh or more bike.
My father says:- a car overtakes us wrongly/ impatiently (in Pithoragarh, Uttarakhand)don’t be impatient or critical to them. “MAYBE HIS MOTHER IS UNWELL AT HOME.” that statement always keeps me calm.😊 whenever I get impatient, with reckless drivers here in Greater Himalayas.
This is the exact reason why i don't ride in groups anymore. There's always a peer pressure to keep up so that no one thinks u ride slow. This perception needs to change that if someone rides slow, he's not an enthusiast. I now ride with just selective frnds and we ride very peaceful which is a million times better than riding in an unknown group and putting urself under pressure.
Completely off topic apologies but I am looking for a new set of tyres for my r 15 v 4 , something that is an all rounder but I can't find any good tyres or recommendations anywhere so was hoping to ask(Shumi sir) what he would suggest or anyone else in the comment section who can guide me to a good tyre selection thank u 🙇
I will be joining the motorcycle community soon, hopefully will get a classic 350 or H'ness/CB 350.and yeah I agree whenever you open insta/RUclips, you are bombarded with reels of idiots doing stupid things on bikes. It's so sad that that has become the norm and inspires kids to replicate the same idiotic behaviour. All because it gets them views and engagement
amazing you guys should do a similar one on SUV culture, we just saw what happened in GGN where the 5star SUV was coming wrong way & killed a person. And I am from Delhi NCR, going wrong side on that cyber city road is just plain arrogance & disregard for the life of other people ... nd this person was a repeat offender
I purchased R15v4 racing blue 6 months back just by watching your video, thank you so much for giving wonderful suggestion. I enjoy riding my bike in my early age , I am just 20, i travel 400 kms every month on my bike. I really appreciate your work. This bike mannn,, I eagerly wait for corners now 😅.
Much much much needed video as mostly young bikers who are picking up their first bikes are exposed to alot of the ugly side of motorcycling due to short vertical content. Great video
Beautifully discussed brother. I’m 20 and got my license 2 years back, I’m the guy who always encourages everyone to wear seatbelt even in third row, without fastening belt I refuse to move the vehicle and trust me it makes me feel secure as a driver to drive when they’re safe. It has prevented many small mishaps or road rages just because I was confident because my family was just extra safe and I avoided those small small mishaps. Road safety is nothing more than some value education lecture I believe. Also I would try to be a little bit more patient on road and be more forgiving. Adios shumi and Kartik, would love to learn in your track school once I get my first R15M😁
Kartikeyee and Shumi, you guys have touched upon the exact problem this Motorcycling Subculture is plagued with. Patience and Consideration truly is the only way one can become a better representative of Humans on Motorcycles.
Can we get a video regarding riding gear recommendation...like helmet, shoes etc .. which most people can buy .. because most of the people won't be able to buy agv, shoei etc...
I don't understand this obsession with doing 300 on public roads. And in comments people even appreciating. Dude they are not just risking themselves, they are putting our lives in danger.
I think we should be taught and tested for these things by our vehicle licensing authorities, before licenses are issued to commuters. I believe in India we don’t test how to drive or ride, we test whether one knows how to operate a motor vehicle. There’s a big difference. I lived in New Zealand for 3 years, and still hold a valid NZ drivers license from them while also holding an Indian license for far longer than that. It took me four tries to qualify to drive in NZ. The three times I failed, I attribute it to unlearning all the bad driving from India. Now that I’ve been back for a few years, I see that it annoys others on the road when I’m the only one that’s following my lane, or honouring right-of-way, or giving and expecting others to give a 3 second warning via their turn signals before actually changing lanes. I find people dangerously overtaking me all the time, even when I’m following the speed limit, and that frankly is just the effect of what we are taught and not taught. One can have all the right skills and display all the right behaviour; however what is correct in India will mostly be dictated by what we are punished for, rather than what we are rewarded for. If the police catch a motorcyclist just because he is wearing gear, and let go of so so many who make right turns on signals even though they are standing on the extreme left; then that instinctively tells us what our society expects and respects. Hint: it’s not being considerate.
Motorists need to respect the regulations even if they may personally disagree with them If they feel very strongly about an unfair or ridiculous regulation then they should organize themselves into an activist group and lobby for change However we are already seeing stricter enforcement of speed limits which may even lead to FIRs High profile car accidents with fatalities to bikers, cyclists and pedestrians in all probability may lead to things like speed governors and strict bhp limits Of course some mororists will flout these and the consequences for the rest of us may be even more draconian
Just a tangential point from the discussion at the 41 minute mark. I have ridden 3 different well run in Himalayan 450s now and all 3 of them had a very well behaved 95-115kph zone that just smoothed out from the initial harshness. And that happened at a point much beyond the recommended break-in of 500kms. They all went much smoother at the 1800-2200km odo mark. Three is too small a sample size to gain any significant knowledge, but from forum discussions as well, it seems the himalayan smooths out over 2500 kms. I have to point it out because I consider it to be the only Achilles heel in an otherwise perfect Indian ADV (no I have zero issues with a tube tyre). The himalayan story has really gotten lost in that vibey character narrative.
This is such a usefull and great talk, I had one of the best hour listening and learning through this. This should reach to more and more people, because this is such a gem for us..
Drop the top speed kya hai question. I absolutely love the comment. Everytime I have bought a new machince car, motorbike, heck even scooters, I have been asked this question and my answer is I don't know I haven't tested and don't intend to. The other question that is common is, I heard that this bike/car is not stable at 140/150/160/170 etc speed. Did you feel it and my answer always is you shouldn't be doing that on Indian Roads. I love this podcast and I learnt something new today which will make use the roads better.
I’ve been driving for almost a decade now, and had always considered myself a car guy. I rode gear less mopeds to commute for the major part of my life, and never had I even tried riding a motorcycle with gears. A year ago, I picked up my first bike, and a month ago, sold that and upgraded to something better. In total, I’ve been a motorcyclist for about a little over a year now. No doubt, I am absolutely loving it. Did a few solo trips, and rides with friends. The reason I am mentioning this is because, this podcast answered so many of my questions, gave me such lovely insights and I just gained a lot of guidance as to how I should enjoy motorcycling responsibly. Thank you guys, loved every minute of this!
I am a responsible driver first then I took time to start my adventure motor cycling with a Himalayan 450. Your thoughts are so useful and I resonate with them. Drive Responsibly Coz Roads are meant to create memories and not horror.
As a beginner in this space, I really had no idea about these things and how to go about it. Since I don't know anyone in my circle who likes to ride(and I am from a small city) so I had no point of reference and watching those high speed videos on highways always made me feel that maybe I am not made for it since it looked damn too dangerous. Finally seeing Shumi and Kartikeya Sir speaking about it, it is very encouraging for guys like me who like the idea of touring on bike to learn and grow . And what kartikeya sir said about slowing down when there's intersection coming , I thought maybe experienced riders wouldn't have this problem and they would have some magical talent to speed through it now it feels like they are just playing with their luck. So thank you for guiding us and season 2 of thisconnect is going awesome can't wait for upcoming videos.❤️
Great video! Thoroughly enjoyed it! On the topic of 'motorcyclists v/s cops', I feel like the main issue is that most of us know about the existence of MotoGP, and the fact that they're covered in different 'clothes'. The cops see these clothes on the road, and go like "If the people I have sometimes seen on TV wearing such clothes are going so fast, these guys must be doing the same too." The problem is that there is very little awareness of riding gear aside from helmet. Like people will tell you to buy a helmet, but what they are not aware of is the fact that not many injuries occur there. Sure, you'll get a concussion, whiplash, but atleast you'll be functioning in a few weeks. However, if you are only wearing a helmet, and nothing else, your chances of being in the hospital for a long time increases dramatically. Sure, you won't get head injuries, but dude, is that worth having a fractured arm and broken legs? What Shumi sir said is very true, we don't do enough to make a good impression. The people going 200 on public roads and filming that might be doing that for fun, and might be the best rider in the world off-camera, but what you're showing is you being reckless, and there are enough people doing that on camera, to correlate biker=bad, and that's the problem. And underage teens like me get easily swayed by that for the most part, and think, "That's what biking is," and we try to do that and be 'cool', which increases the hatred towards bikers, and the good motorcyclists are not noticed, who actually ride well and follow the rules. My friend tells me how he pulls wheelies on his father's RX100. Sure, I've learned how to ride at the age of 13 too, but I don't plan on riding much till I get my license, although I do go for a few rides here and there. He's 16, by the way, which just proves the whole point of this video. -Best regards, Ajinkya.
This is the single most important video/docu/podcast made on motorcyclists, for motorcyclists, by motorcyclists. From a personal standpoint, being a silent member of the motorcycling fraternity for the past decade, I am so grateful to you guys for getting together and putting time into this - this most important video for motorcyclists. Shumi and Karthi are one of the few motorcyclists I hugely respect, idolize and try to learn from. I have been following them through the various media outlets they have graced with their presence and expertise since my incipient days as a motorcyclist. Thank you for drawing the line between Motorcyclist and "Biker". I have had numerous debates with my fellow riders about the distinction between the two. Thank you all for making the effort to educate the masses to be part of the solution rather than adding to the problem. All of you at Motorinc are the trailblazers and torchbearers for responsible motorcycling. More power to you and Godspeed my dear friends.
Exactly that's what happened on blore - mysuru expressway... initially bikes were allowed but due to irresponsible riding bikes aren't allowed on it anymore
I agree with a lot of points, as someone who is quite young and was trying to get into 'motorcycling' it was very difficult for me to find groups/clubs to be with. Because I did not already have anyone in my circles with this hobby, I turned to social media to find groups and met with a good number. Unfortunately, riding with all of these people made me feel very unsafe due to many reasons like the group itself being not disciplined or even due to the skill gap(me being on the lower end, which is completely fine). There have been times when I attended some events where I just totally felt out of place and even started questioning if I was even a 'motorcyclist' We need more people to encourage being considerate to make sure we do not get legislated out like shumi mentioned which has already started happening in a lot of the bridges and expressways
Be considerate. I learnt that we are lacking consoderation the ehen i started dropping my kid to his playschool on a scooter. Had to take a right turn into a gully for the school and people wont even pause or slow down to let a scooter pass by which clearly has a kid with his school bag. Troubled with the situation bacuase I want to teach my 3 yr old consideration, but end up teaching him "Jahan hak na mile waha loot sahi". I dont think old saying of us having "Bada Dil" stands anymore in the urban folk. Thanks for clearing that considerate people exist and we just need to be taught more of it.
Such an important topic , very well covered as usual. I’ve been to MTM and IBW - and the different just could not be starker. As with everything in life, I believe a “growth mindset” is the most critical element. Actively disconfirming beliefs with data and inputs from others experiences has helped me improve tremendously as a motorcyclist. Today’s community solutions (general office/apartment whatsApp groups , manufacturer driven groups etc) - all hinge around a common something - office space, apartment or bike of choice. We need a way for the common “something” to match on to be the core motorcycling beliefs/“frequency”.
This was brilliant. I try to be as considerate, patient and respectful as possible on the road. But there are times when frustration takes over (Bangalore traffic isn't kind) and I indulge in behaviour that I myself find appalling. Whenever I feel that way, I will come back to this video. This video addresses the bigger picture in a way that hasn't been done before. Thank you for this content MotorInc, what a start to the weekend!
Since I was a kid, whenever I felt down, I'd take a ride on my motorcycle. 90% of the time, I'd come back in a good mood and with a solution to my problems. I've probably tried every riding tip Shumi has mentioned. I won't stop motorcycling even if the culture is fading. However, I'm saving for my first car because of safety concerns. Riding gear is heavy and inconvenient to carry around, and a recent Fortnine video has made me question its safety. I've been searching for a solution to this problem for months, but without any luck. It looks like I might have to give up something that's been so important to me since childhood.
Listening to this podcast only to know the names of the guys who you guys said build motorcycles I am soooo very much interested it would be really helpful if you could help me/us know about more of good motorcycle culture channels Sweet.
What a fantastic discussion! Been riding for 21 years and have ridden quite a bit across the country, all types of bikes. Never did group rides unless they were with friends I grew up with. For precisely the same reasons - I don't identify with what today or even earlier constituted as "bikers" or "biking culture". Never been to IBW or any of that other stuff, just doesn't interest me at all. And whatever I see of it online is pure cringe. But I do relate to the problem at hand. I just hope this reaches the right audience!
It's really inspiring. You guys do a great job spreading awareness regarding motorcycling, i have watched every podcast and review of yours, and it has taught me a lot about motorcycling. This episode and the other one with small bikes and single motor garages made a huge impact on me, inspiring me to buy a basic commuter for future purchases after listening to that small bike podcast i started to look differently at my splendor and other small bikes and there has been a major change in my thought process, good job Shumi sir and Kartikeya sir
Motorcycling is about individual riding. I do not get this idea of group rides. It defeats the purpose of motorcycling. If you to want go in groups go get a car not a motorbike.
This was great!! Can you please do a podcast that brings the true nature of KTM to the general public who have a stereotypical perception of KTMs in India? Very few people know what KTM really is. KTM fans support!
I started my motorcycling journey in Bhubaneswar, Odisha. When I got my himmy 411 I saw the riding culture only based around big bikes and weekend riders and mostly around Instagram. So I kept riding solo because couldn't find any like minded people.
When i got back to my hometown during wfh days, joined a local club . Being a member of BAC, the experience was harrowing to say the least. Teenagers without DLs coming in crocs, w/o any safety equipment and driving and drifting at insane speeds. Never rode again with them. Problem is tier2 and tier3 folks want to emulate all cool looking cultures minus the safety considerations. Biking is becoming another source of reel making hobby
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*Chapters*
00:00:00 Culture
00:02:30 Motorcycle Festivals
00:04:45 The Online Influence
00:07:00 Cultural Genres
00:09:15 The Early Influences
00:13:23 Consequences Incoming
00:15:10 Responsible Motorcycling
00:17:12 Courtesy & Patience I
00:19:05 Represent!
00:19:56 What We're Learning
00:21:44 Motorcyclists vs Bikers
00:23:01 The Bad Boy Streak
00:24:45 Courtesy & Patience II
00:26:53 Motorcyclists Are Vulnerable
00:27:42 Guided Behaviour
00:28:37 Say Hello
00:29:13 Be Quiet
00:30:23 Sportsbike Riders
00:34:57 Experience vs Ownership
00:36:09 Invest In Your Passion
00:37:50 Off-road Challenges
00:39:01 Be Considerate
00:43:25 Traffic & Patience
00:46:47 Ride Solo vs Groups
00:48:30 Crashes & First Aid
00:52:18 Bad vs Good Behaviour
00:55:05 Motorcyclist as Aspiration
00:56:37 Actively Humanise
00:58:32 Communicate!
01:00:55 Be Human
01:01:22 Be Welcome
01:02:58 Earn Respect
01:03:10 Welcome New Riders
01:04:56 The Next Episode
01:05:32 Closing Comments
*More ThisConnect Season 02*
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*ThisConnect Season 01*
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I have been riding a motorcycle for the past 11 years. I always try to follow the traffic rules to the best of my abilities so that I can be in a safe space and not bother anyone around me. I bought a sports bike a few years back and became a part of a group that taught me a lot that I am missing. Yes, our motorcycle culture needs responsible people in it. Past 11 years I got only 1 ticket for my PUC. Be safe everyone.
Awesome!
The conclusion of be human at the end seems less, but honestly "simplest things are the hardest to do" ,but it's true, just be nice and kind to one another!
For yrs, struggled to find a group without folks who brag about how much they spent on accessories, or just want to race/rev. So 6am every Sat, I ride out with my wife on pillion for 3-4 hrs. We talk about how the week was, enjoy the sunshine, and so on. Life is good. That's our culture. Whenever you're in B'lore, pls join! 😊
That sounds great @maneshmahamte012. Thanks for sharing!
This is the reason i havent join any group. But some good person i found on youtube and insta who help community like what can be worng search of good mechanic or any problem
Which bike u use for ride?
Exactly, as simple as it is. I do so too.
How beautiful ❤️ many more weekend rides to you ❤
I'm not a motorcyclist or an enthusiast, but my husband is. While he's out on a ride this Sunday morning, I decided to listen to your podcast, and I must say, it was a great decision. I wanted to drop a comment and express how wonderful it is to hear such meaningful conversations that are much needed in today's world.
Your podcast not only makes me believe in the good side of people but also helps me better understand and trust my husband's motorcycling enthusiasm.
Thank you for being a considerate motorcyclist and for encouraging youngsters to adopt this responsible behavior. I definitely feel safer on the roads knowing that you and your listeners are out there :)
Hi Raksha, your husband is a lucky guy. Thank you for being awesome and participating in this slice of his life. And thank you for writing in. Means a lot.
You're so awesome for taking the time to learn about your husband's hobbies! Kudos to you! Your husband is a very lucky guy!
My wife shares similar views, the difference is she always accompany me on my trips :) .
Raksha, it's nice to see someone understanding their spouse's passion and showing interest in them. I'm sure will be a responsible rider to make sure he comes home to you everyday.😊
Over my 35 years of riding on Indian roads, I find that truckers not only have a very tough job, more importantly they are the most considerate of all the drivers out there, so I've always made it a point not to hustle them and also to wave an acknowledgement or thanks when they give you space or let you overtake or warn you when not to overtake on blind turns, etc. The local, rural sub 3 ton Tata 407 and other smaller ones are at the other end of that spectrum. Those guys can and will try to kill you with absolute disregard, change lanes and take U turns and block your overtakes half way thru or block you in or swear to never ever look at their mirror. So it's important to distinguish and be kind to the former and be very wary of the latter kind, of course you can be kind to everybody to set a good example or atmosphere. Also that a double tap on the horn has a much better effect than multiple long single taps in grabbing attention. In fact long press on the horn usually has a hostile effect. Waving thanks or other pleasant gestures directed at the invisible drivers, even thru mirrors usually always sends a good vibe. Because on long highway trips, you may encounter the same vehicle somewhere later on the same road and there comes a sense of friendly familiarity rather than, there's that asshole again.
Great points in there! Thanks Srinath! The long-horn versus the double-tap really, really works!
I'm with you on the truckers being considerate. There have been times when I'm stuck behind a bus/truck and if I want to overtake, the first thing I try to see is if the driver gives any hand signal. If says wait, I pull back, wait for a clearing from him. Once he does the had motion of go ahead, I overtake.
But yes, do make sure to give him a wave or a thumbs up. It makes their day :)
💯.... the double tap garners effective and unhostile attention...
Rightly put👍🏻
Rightly put👍🏻
I'm a MBBS passout currently doing internship at AIIMS And What Shumi said is absolutely on point
The first thing to do in a crash is to check scene safety next is to check breathing and call for help
Removing a helmet after crash is not something to be done at all if you are not familiar or know the basics of First aid
Thank you for sharing 😊🙏🏻
Thank you for sharing RK!
First few minutes itself Shumi nailed the image that bikers have even in their own family (organ donors, dangerous mode of transport, solo riding looks sad). I'm a late bloomer in terms of getting my license and getting into motorcycles. But I got pulled in hard immediately and now this is my best escape from the hectic work life. Thankfully instead of the algorithm recommending me "Vertical Videos" of people being "bosses", I got Strell, older Shumi and Karthik (PD and Zig), so I keep with calm riding styles with immersion as the priority. Big thanks to you guys for being the primary guides since I started 2 years ago. Also I wish riders here accepted all bikes instead of shooing certain models and their rider for the difference in taste. In the end it's all about that feeling right
Thanks HK for making it better! 🙏🏾
Malayali...
Njaanum dhe strell inte kaaryam comment ittathe ollu.❤
There is this upcoming channel @AnuragSalgaonkar . Great Guy, follows all rules in Mumbai. while others violate. Wears full gear any time and everytime on a motorcycle.
I also used to watch strell.
What a brilliant conversation! These are the kinds of conversations we should be encouraging. Even when I started motorcycling, I was very taken up by social media and I thought it was cool to do what everyone else was doing.
Only after deeply reflecting and realising the amounts of risk I was putting myself and everybody else on the road did I realise that group rides aren’t my thing. I’d rather ride safely, and responsibly, than chase adrenaline at the risk of my life.
Thanks so much PAP for being the change!
Sometimes solo rides makes us feel a lot safer especially when you're surrounded by some idiots in the form of friends. I did only one group ride as of now and the rest were solo. It was fun for me because I got the chance to talk to myself and also be considerate and patient while riding. Been doing this for a year and I swear at no point I felt boring. Motorcycling is all about experiences.
Big riding groups should stop expecting/ taking for granted and not demand that other vehicles have to move away for them to overtake... Senselesy flashing auxiliary power lights on them is not going to help anybody
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Yesterday I did a round trip of around 320 km on my activa. Yes I've my limitations being on an activa on a super smooth highway i.e, sticking to the left lane at 60-70 kmph and giving way to faster vehicles(almost all vehicles are faster than me expect trucks) and yes I did it without compromising on my safety. Surely I don't have any riding gear as I'm jobless for few months hence my pocket isn't able to purchase me all the riding gear but I trusted my riding skills and my instinct such that I did no stupid things which might had put me at risk. This is more important than having or not having electronic aids on a motorcycle as a debate. Yes ABS should be the standard one and traction control if power > 40 bhp.
For me motorcycling is all about stress relieving as well as meeting new people. Riding a motorcycle in full riding gear on a highway feels like heaven for me. One thing to note is motorcycling is a selfish hobby and not everyone in your family are gonna support it and that's fine. It's your job to convince them to follow your passion.
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Great points in there Surya! Glad you had a good ride!
I know it's subjective, but this is one of the most important videos you guys have made till now. Everyone, motorcyclist or not, everyone needs to watch this, and the learnings can be implemented in our day to day.
"How you do anything is how you'd do everything"
May this community keep growing.
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This episode should be mandatory to those who are applying for driving licence in India 😂. They are doing what the system is supposed to do
What a beautiful simple conversation. I remember taking an oath not to honk unless there is a life threatening situation after the second wave completely comes from this school of thought.
I have seen seniors and other citizens thanking me with a simple gesture for just allowing them to cross the road.
A long days riding to and from the office just vanishes instantly. Its that powerful.
Thanks for being better @anandlakkaraju6825.
Possibly the best podcast I've seen on this channel..... This is not just the best, but the most necessary one! 💙
Thanks for dropping in to chat too! 🙂
Shumi, I know you said you don't like to organize but I have a suggestion. You talked about similar minded ppl who are passionate about bikes (Anand,Zen,Zubin,Kunal,Josh). If you bring these ppl together to one of the episodes of ThisConnect to talk about motorcycles in general, that would be a great experience for the viewers. Just give it a thought. I know the usual style of ThisConnect is you two guys talking to each other but think about these ppl and you guys talking together in the finale episode of this season. That would be a banger of an episode and a great way to end the season.
👍🏾 Thanks for the suggestion CGS!
Just wanted to know , do those guys also have any social media accounts that I can follow.
I'm a 23 years old, working and some months back I purchased my first motorcycle, Meteor 350. I totally agree with the biker culture you pointed out, sadly I was also influenced by it, I used to think drag races are cool, red lining the Enfields is way to go and unfortunately I did it on my Meteor as well. But later on youtube somehow recommended your videos and alongwith some other podcasts which I watched, I had lots of realizations about the way I'm riding is wrong and how it's affecting my motorcycle and other people who are driving as well. It's hard to find videos that teach you something good. I've still lots of things to learn but I'm happy that I'm atleast out of that culture and became more empathetic towards other folks. Keep posting such podcasts and contents, your experiences teaches me alot of things.
Glad to know we could be of help. You will know when you are doing something right. Keep at it.
It feels like if there were to be motorinc member groups in Pune / Mumbai / Banglore etc. Alot of us would have similarish mentalities and have a great time during weekend meetups or rides.
😊 Lovely image!
Skoda have introduced a membership you can join even if you don't have a skoda and as far as I have heard about it they organize events for their members as well .
Can we make such thing and come together as well.
Most of them would be really good individuals, but I don't think a group of 30 year old men (avg.) who think they know better than everyone about riding is going to work out.
The more peculiar & cautious you get, the more difficult it is to enjoy a social company. Best case scenario would be leave your bikes at home, chat for a while about stuff & go back.
that's actually a great idea. if not go for rides together we can definitely hang out and talk motorcycles together. banglore+1.
Yesterday, i sold off my Victor to my colleague & took the delivery of new NS200 😁 ❤. I’m super happy about it.
Thank u schumi sir, for all your advice & videos. Forever greatfull 🙏🏼 Hope he reads this comment. Not just the team alone 😊
Congratulations 🎉
Welcome to the Bajaj Family brother❤
Congratulations brother 👏🎉
@@AnotherRahul1601ah then I'll be your relative family 😛
Day before yesterday received my triumph speed 400
@@patrioticsammy6454 aha congratulations
just be alone and do what you love. I love cars and bikes and I don't belong to any biker club or car club. I love them all and I love to be alone as it's peaceful. Don't do anything just because society does it.
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I just passed my French driving licence. This first aid topic are basic chapter mandated in our driving theory test called "Code de la route" Only when we pass this test we can be present in the practical driving exam.
for a motorcycle/Car crash the basic answer for us is don't move the persons until emergency services arrive at the scene & unless they are not breathing/having a cardiac arrest/or fire, drowning in the river do not attempt to free or rescue them.
after this only experience I've learnt the reasons not to move people who have just got into an accident.
Man I didn't even realised it was 1 hour 6 mins long. Great Conversation as Usual and Great Video.
1. The knowledge of Shumi is just on another level and, in my opinion, unmatched. I know his Motorcycle Database is as big as Wikipedia but his knowledge on other subjects and ability to acknowledge the different prespective of same topic is admirable. I like his realistic approach to things, being honest about his opinions and opinions which are as striking as Point Blank Shots. My favourite dialogue of his is " You don't have to agree with me eventhough I think I am right".
2. I think even if you are a teenager, you can understand what is stupid and what is right. I used 'Don't Recommend', 'Not Intrested' and 'Report' more than anyone and I used those options 90% on a "BIKER CONTENT" than anything less. By that I started going for more better and real Motorcycle content made me discover Shumi, Karthik, Sagar , Rishaad and many great motorcyclist out there. My RUclips, which subscribed 30 something BIKE Channels in past now have 5 Great Channels that give me Great Motorcycle Insights and Motorinc is at P1.
3. I can relate to Shumi's story of people being nice to him for a great motorcyclist. Once I was parked on side of road checking who called me. I saw a Car driver ( I think it was an Hyundai Eon ) who was going to take U turn. Its a 2 lane road and from my limited knowledge of driving I had then, I knew he would need to Reverse if I don't move. The only thing I did was I moved my Scooter just a small distance forward and went back to my phone. That man stopped beside me after completing the U-Turn and said "Thank You" and It made my day. So Being nice on road makes you feel better.
4. I do same thing as Karthik when somebody do something stupid infront of me, I think It's somebody close to me. If that''s a gentleman at his 40s and 50s, I automatically thinks it is somebody like my Father or if it is a teen boy doing some mistake ( not stupidity ) I automatically thinks it's my brother. It calms my emotions and canfocus. I would rather focus on my Driving and Riding rather than spending my emotions on them.
5. I like the nice touch of Shumi having Motorinc logo on his Watch.
6. I think Motorinc should start merch with Shumi Quotes. I would buy the ones with these
" It's not like that there are such dumb humans who don't even learn from their own mistakes." and
" I don't think human beings are dumb. I think everybody has a brain. Some people just refuse to use it and that's a Problem."
Loved reading your comment, I can recommend you to also follow Strell as he makes great motorcycle content. ✌
@@pratyasaha9876 Thanks mate. I am also one of his subscriber.
@@sidharthsnair911 ❤✌
Thank you guys! 🙏🏾
My first ever membership ♥️
Thank you for choosing us @hrithikvaibhav5724!
I am not the member but I gotta say it's totally worth it
Congratulations
This is the most important "This Connect" you have made yet.
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Again Shumi is my spirit animal. I so match with the things he said ...
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I am a Motorcyclist that rides KTM DUKE 390... Yes, my next bike is going to be even more powerful... But I will consciously & actively avoid causing any frustration to another biker or a driver.
Awesome! Good to see you in the comments again @pratvachan!
I love the intent and content delivered by MotorInc and this is one of the best episode you guys have produced. This really hits home, because when my father taught me to ride his Splendour, he was adamant that I get the learner's permit first and a helmet, plus he made sure I use the indicators while turning and respect the signal. Now I'm much more ethical rider than him.
Anyway, there is a class of youth, the one which cannot be bothered to watch a channel like yours or who can comprehend English, can really use this kind of message to improve their riding habits, what are your thoughts on bringing this message to that youth?
We all need to use our influence for the betterment. You can and should pass the message along.
Being a good human being (rider) is so underrated. My father always used to say "your respect is in your own hands". Today's bikers need to understand over speeding, doing stunts on roads, over revving engines and riding while wearing shorts and slippers is just attracting bad name to the community. You want to do outrageous stuff, go book a track. Spare the drama for roads.
I used to live in the interior of Saki Naka up until a few months ago. To go to work, I had to first cross the main road on which there would be heavy traffic going from Andheri to BKC. I did a test where I forcefully pushed my bonnet into the oncoming traffic when I found an opportunity vs. putting down my window and showing this gesture 🤌🏼 to allow me to pass. I was stunned to find 8 times out of 10, even BEST buses and autos would wait for me to pass if I'm patient.
Sweet!
Needed to hear this today. I ride a std 350 and never ride rashly. Today I uncharacteristically made a few swerves to beat the afternoon traffic, startling a few passing cars. I'd been feeling bad about it the whole day and somehow hearing you guys talk empathetically about it makes me feel better and want to be better.
Happy to help!
My dad has been a lifelong driver had a small stint as trucker and he faced worst treatment as a trucker, people hurl abuses for no good reason.. or just bcoz they occupy a bigger part of road.. his experience has made me retrospect my feelings on the road and made me a more compassionate rider.. I have also seen motorcyclist getting better and courteous of other vehicles.. high hopes for us..
Thanks for sharing @MohdSameer-jw3ti. We have high bars to clear for sure.
Let's be honest about bengaluru traffic cops... When they are out to make a quick buck it doesnt matter whether you are on a superbike or a cycle... They will extricate their pound of flesh...
It's frustrating that I can't lock my phone and listen
Sorry about that, it’s RUclips thing.
A RUclips premium feature 😭
@@HrithikVaibhaveven with active RUclips premium, ‘member-only’ videos still shut when the phone is locked.
@@HrithikVaibhav No, it's something to do with members only/members first content. Even RUclips Premium users can't lock their phone and listen.
RUclips Music allows this. However I can't access the podcast there even though I have their membership and RUclips Music. Hope MotorInc can help fix that. Would really like to listen to S & K while cleaning my bike.
Dude.. samee
This whole conversation reminded me of this. Back in 2016, I took my bike on a long road trip. Starting from Delhi to Dwarka, then covered west coastal roads till last point, then came back up to the eastern corner via coastal roads again. I did it during monsoon period and because of that, I've seen this country in its most beautiful avatar. I only had a good helmet and shoes to protect myself and was driving under 90-100 for most time, only stretching to 90-100 for frequent overtakes if I have to. I didn't had a smartphone so I wasn't assisted with GPS either. All I did during that trip was seeing this country, talking to new people, eating local food, and be there. Once I finished it, I was welcomed by a lot new people, bikers, etc. who wanted me to join their groups. I never joined any group nor did a group trip as I used to say (and still believe) that I'm not a biker. I wanted to travel this country and that bike was my cheapest way to do so, and I clocked 11,000 KMs in about 60 days. After that, I had done a similar trip in a tempo traveller and have been doing similar trips on bus, truck, train and now car. Traveling is my core agenda, setting records on vehicle is not. And the benefit coming out of it is that I have never met a single accident.
That sounds like a beautiful experience for you @PawanKumar-eq8yi. Thank you for sharing!
A Sunday Morning and 1 Hour of Motorinc Its a routine for me now
😁 Thank you!
I'm still riding RTR 180 :) still a believer of Yamaha with my past experiences. Still consider to buy R3, if i'll have a throw away money in my pocket.
Hey eelongMast! We're working on the R3 story. The short version is that it is way too much money for the bike for us to recommend it. However, it's a sweetheart of a bike. If you get one, you won't regret it.
@@motorinc Thankyou, Sir ❤
An hour long video which insightful information on where we motorcyclists stand and what we need to do. Respect is always earned by what we do and not what we have.
Thank you @monk_aks.
I picked up bad behaviour and here i am , I overtooked rickshaws roaring my engine and 2nd gear knowing that those guys were trying their best to take their vehicle fast enough on a uphill colony road , i got impatient and irritated but i should not have done that , seeing other people do it felt im not good enough in overtaking i felt a lack of skill which is okay because im a beginner i should have been more considerate, I got my ego hurt when 2 guys on a access passed my on a ghat hill section with such a pace i could not keep up and i felt bad ( How can a scooter of 125 with double riding be so fast and im on a bike wtf) instead of chasing them i should have continued riding on my pace which is was comfortably riding as a beginner, later further on my commute a chetak electric one smoked me on highway zoomed from right and passing between 2 trucks like a idiot but that time i thought woah i lack that skill how is this guy so fast although he was a idiot i was surprised of how he was alive and passing others while in the process i chased him couldn't keep up i felt like a chapri to be honest i got humbled. But i will be more patient and considerate while encountering such people and mind my own pace. I will never try to race anyone but seriously getting smoked by a access with two people on it feels so bad 😂. And when people check turing their head behind is even more triggering. I'll follow that stay below peak torque tip maybe for safe overtakes. Seriously i need to control my ego on my motorcycle.
Thanks for trying to do better @shantanupawar3609, we'd just like everyone to remember that we're all just trying to get somewhere and aren't on a race with each other... There is no winning or losing to happen there.
I ride alone, to clear my head, to not feel anything, to not have any thoughts in my mind.
This is my culture.
Thanks for sharing! Wish you awesome rides.
@@motorinc You Too!
Bro, let karthik talk!😂
It’s all good.
I am 21 years old and planning to start long rides next year after purchasing a proper bike and gear. I prefer cruising and don't enjoy high speeds. The only thing that concerns me is that I'm not very social and don't have a group of friends interested in long rides. The thing I am unsure about is I'll be riding solo, and in case of any mishap, whether there will be anyone who knows what to do and also whether I will enjoy solo riding, but I'll have to try it first to find out. And this episode has helped me to understand that even if I am a solo rider how I can ensure my own safety while respecting others space. Truly Motorinc as a channel is taking steps towards creating a better riding and driving culture. Thank You.
All the best P!
Its a simple thing brother. Even I was in your phase 1 year ago. Just go for a 200 km ride solo and note down your observations. Try to replicate this multiple times. If you feel comfortable and safe, you'll probably have a great time riding solo. What I noticed while in a group is I have to take multiple stops be it fuel or food or selfies. I'm not that kind of a person hence I choose solo. Even if you are planning for a group, try to make maximum of 4 people. It will make your experience significantly better as you'll have loads of fun together without compromising on safety. I wish you great motorcycling. BTW what bikes have you shortlisted?
@@suryateja2k11 thank you for your advice. Currently I haven't taken any test drives but I always wanted to buy Honda Hness but recently scrambler 400x has caught my eye 😅
I hope test drives will make it clear but you might have got an idea about my taste. Btw which bike do you own? And if anything you would like to suggest in the budget of scrambler 400x?
@@pranitg6036 I currently don't have any bike but even I'm planning for Hness CB350. Even 400X is on my radar but the price jump from 2.6L to 3.3L is little bit difficult for my pocket. And the maintainence is a tiny bit expensive in case of 400X. CB350 is built to last as its Honda and offers better mileage. Take both test rides and if possible rent them for few hundred kms and come to conclusions as showroom test rides aren't the correct way. First of all know what is the cruising speed you'e gonna travel at. If its under 100 kmph then Highness will serve the purpose fine without compromising on fuel efficiency. Pick scrambler if your travel includes mild off roading. In that case scrambler makes you comfortable. Even the cruising speeds of scrambler is similar to Highness i.e, 90-110 kmph but the mileage will be slightly less. Happy mile munching.
At the age of 22 you dont start doing long rides that too solo. Ride for couple of more years. Clear ur basics on braking and awareness first by riding around ur city in every kind of traffic. This generation wants to do everything in a hurry that too on their parent's money!
I got my first motorcycle at 24, met with an horrible accident from which I came unscathed due to the gear. The accident was due to no fault of mine and the trauma caused was so brutal I have intense paranoia on roads even on scooters, I only drive five star rated NCap(whatever that means) German cars now such that my highway mileage is 20Km/L. I know to be patient and considerate but the problem is I dont think it is reasonable to expect them same of other drivers on our roads, the accident effectively killed my motorcycling dream simply because I know there are rash drivers out there and skillfull, pateint and considerate driving alone doesn't ensure my safety on a motorcycle. The near misses in our country is the norm rather than an exception.
Thanks for sharing @yogeeswarpal.
Didn't know that all these simple things I do everyday has to be told and taught to motorcyclists.
My dad taught me to be patient from the start itself.
Many thank to your Dad from us!
Cam I boast about something here.?!??
I have not tested top speed of my dominar. I now own it for almost 3 and half years. Forget top speed, may have crossed 130 like maybe 10-12 times and never because I wanted to touch 130, it was natural for may be a overtake or an empty stretch of highway. I am not scared of testing top speed. It's just I never wanted to test it. There is no reason to test it. But many people have asked me and I have told them I am not gonna ride at 140+ than what will I get testing it.
Any way to anyone who think I am scared, I always clarify that I have burst my pulsar engine by riding 120 speed from kochi to pondicherry before dominar. And that is why I ugraded. I have done 1lakh+ kms of riding mostly solo in 5 years.. So I can ride 130-140 but I think it's not safe and why would I ride unsafe..
Some rules that I learnt from riders like you are: may be some from shumi also.
Never mix alcohol with riding.
Ride within your and your surrounding environment limit.
Ego is never ever required during ride. I would rather loose to a splendor that putting that splendor guy's life in danger chasing me.
You are as fast as slowest guy in group. So plan accordingly.
Follow rules as much as possible.
Always ready to learn and consider yourself learner.
Biggest one is be patient. It doesn't cost much time. Maybe few seconds here and there.
P.S. I am scared of ridingmy father's scooter at 40-50+ speeds. It's just feels unsafe. I don't know how shumi drives them at 70 or 80.. 😮😮😮
Thanks for sharing Nishant. It's always better to stick to speeds that you feel safe at!😊
I rode between Coimbatore to Dhanushkodi 800km up and down.
A solo rider on my Jawa 42. I'm solo rider who has a bias against group riding (specifically superbike rides).
As Shumi said, I'm a rider who enjoys riding consistently below the peak torque.
On the way to Dhanushkodi I saw a group of riders riding litre class bikes including harleys (with hard luggages performing unnecessary lane changes quickly). I was at 80+ consistently.
The group riders passing me at 100+ with loud exhausts. I was like, let me stick to my plan and not get distracted.
Just before Ramanathapuram on the National Highway I was just about to enter the district and 5 kms away. In the road I could clearly see rain lashing my route, I just stopped wore my rain jacket, and started riding peacefully. I dropped my speed to 60+km. I saw these guys on large bikes standing under a tea shop just waiting for the rain to stop.
Once I was past the rain and 30 minutes gone past and sitting at 80+, I again saw these riders, again riding past me at 100+ km.
When I reached Rameswaram. I again saw these guys waiting for the rain to stop and by that I went past these guys and reached my destination.
My takeways here are these.
1. Their riding character made me think - these guys have a very narrow view or idea about super bikes or high performaning bikes. These guys could've easily managed the rain comfortablly with the available safety electronics and reduced speed. Riding super bikes doesn't necessarily mean you need go quick and fast always with loud exhaust. The goal there was just to ride fast and show off.
2. Now I see how great it is to ride below peak torque and sit at comfortable spead and pace. How beautiful and peaceful it is. Thanks to Shumi.
3. Going quick and fast is just a very minor part of the motorcycle culture and unfortunately that is what is shown on social media.
I hope this podcast reach the right people to spread awareness on responsible motorcycle culture.
Sounds like a fun day out on the bike @venonhunter93! Awesome!
Reaching the end of the video, I enjoyed it, but I still disagree. New Zealand has a much smaller population, hence they can afford the luxury of being nice to motorcyclists/biker. India has a much much higher population density.
All the more important for us to do better Shantanu. That is just a ripe opportunity to let people form bad opinion faster about people who ride motorcycles, don't you think?
I completely reject the "concern". What you are describing is the human condition, nothing to do with bikes or cars. The majority of humans are **** ups.
There are tourists and then there are "bloody tourists".
This entire episode can be captured by just saying "Don't be a bloody tourist".
The same thing can be observed in Goa, where the bloody tourist always acts like an a***hole in Goa. The bad biker are just this, "bloody bikers"
May be so Shantanu but we're thinking in a broader context here. Let's take the tourists example. Sure, there are good tourists and bad tourists and ideally, people shouldn't profile everyone as the same. But that's not what happens, is it? Because of their past experiences, people might be hesitant or worse still outright deny hospitality to the next person, however good they themselves might be. The same seems to be happening to the motorcyclists community right now and we'd like for people to realise that and do better before a bad opinion is stamped on all of us.
We can't say "I didn't do this so why am I getting impacted?". Humans as a species are evolved to recognise and brand unideal situations and protect themselves so, everyone has to want to do better. We hope this makes sense.
33:23 The way Shumi's expressing his concerns about motorcycling tells how worst can the culture get driven by the so called biking culture. Till now I thought that motorcycling and biking are no different but from now, I consider myself as a motorcylist as I respect other drivers around me. Being considerate and patient are the core principles that makes a motorcyclist and whenever I see somebody in full riding gear, having pizza boxes(top box) and revving the nuts of their engines, I feel bad about us how we are represented to everyone as as***le community and bla bla...bla. When I saw IBW for the first time online, my perception was "Are these people representing us as motorcyclists by revving the nuts of their engines and riding like assholes?". I think it's time every passionate motorcyclist comes together and show everyone what real motorcycling is so that atleast the future enthusiasts gets the chance to ride on some of the best expressways in India. We are already suffering from this hence I request everyone to teach right principles to their fellow riders which will make motorcycling beautiful. Hence lets make motorcycling fun and beautiful again!! Shall we?
On it! 😁
thank you both uncles and your team ... another amazing video... it's always a learning experience listening to your podcasts and watching your other videos... just makes my day... I love you guys... hehe...
Thank you betaji! :-)
I always make sure I enter and leave certain areas quietly on my stock exhaust sports bike. One day a father was walking his kid in the building and as he sees me, he closes his kids ears with his hands. I saw that and made me realise what he must have heard before. I even pulled in the clutch to be extra quiet while passing them.
Thanks for that Jim!
Like Austria, even the Bengaluru-Mysore expressway is banned for 2 wheelers, you’ll have to take the service road which have hundreds of speed breakers! 21:44
What a bummer 😞
Yes and friends who've used it have told us just how atrocious the riding experience is too!
Been on a couple of group rides.. didn't enjoy it .. a lot what I experienced was 1.herd mentality one idiot in the group, everyone in the ride ended up being idiots 2. No skill and behavioural update when it comes to riding, these guys all got big bikes but they ride and behave in exactly the same way as in a commuter bike. Now it's been years enjoying solo rides !!! Start before sunrise, get to your location before sunset and enjoy the locals.....
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Shumi struggling to convey to the viewers n new riders to be proper gentlemen while daily riding a Duke, I kid I kid :P
On a serous note group rides being riddled with A**holes is one of the reasons I actively never join them, anymore.
Also the reason I never bought an orange bike even though I've always wanted to
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13:56 Shumi Rocked , Audience Shocked , as he mentioned , to move around a city with proper riding gears and helmets will always draw unnecessary public attention and from day one of starting my motoring journey , iv'e consciously tried to avoid being that guy as shumi described !
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Indian roads and traffic is pathetic for biking..first we need to have pothole free roads to enjoy motorcycling..
Make the best of what you have. It’s never going to be perfect.
If only there was some insta chatbot which could take this podcast as the dataset and only show me those reels that comply to the podcast guidelines....ig my reel feed would be very empty .....very few people following this kind of driving ....bad boy problems are a part of the culture indeed .
Haha! That would be awesome!
Hello Shumi and Kartikeya. I am a 24 years old, 1st generation "motorcyclist". I just want to use this platform to thank you guys for the everyday life lessons that you guys have provided me through your discussions. They have tangibly helped me to improve myself not just as a rider but also as a human being. Kudos to your goodwork and hope to bump into you guys someday!!
Thank you for the kind words @debmalyakanjilal1247!
Thank you for being here. I hope you guys will be able to understand the infinite amount of gratitude, cheer, and other great things for you that are behind this one statement......but yeah, Thank you for being here.....
What a dilemma ….the ones who will be helped most from this can’t even understand this form of content. The ones who can understand it are more educated and considerate.
We're working on that too, Anurag!
Agree with most of it, but there are certain undertones or axiomatic proclamations I disagree with.
It is around the praise/acceptance of over -licensing culture that Europe & India have, with the talk of legislating bikers out of existence. For ex, in your Austria example, I fail to see how the people who blocked roads for 2 wheelers are good guys and not small tyrants.
Similarly, while I agree with all the sentiment on being nice on public roads etc., the talk of "owning" the road by locals is just not the correct way to look at it.
If my tax money is going to repair and maintain that road, should I not get any say in how it should be used? And if not, then please let the locals fund & maintain them, and I would be happy to pay toll & sign consent forms per use basis (if there is any road at all, that is).
It is a mutually beneficial agreement we have, so assigning ownership & the "real right" sounds idiotic & doesn't lead to any good place.
Lastly, while all the advice about not intimidating people on public roads is right, the converse is true as well. We, as Indians, are deeply resentful to people who are successful & happy (or both). A rider with decent bike wearing a gear checks all these boxes, and there is just repressed hatred towards this kind of person not because of what he does, but who he is.
I have a measly MT15, and I get enough of "why you got this impractical bike" ques. I can't imagine what it must be for Duke or god forbid, Kawasaki guys. My point being, we as a culture, don't have any acceptance of an activity like leisurely bike riding/touring. So no matter how accommodating you try to be, they will still hate you
Thanks for sharing what you think and feel. There’s always good and bad. Keep a look out. The love is for sure out there too.
@@motorinc Definitely
Well, biker groups in the west are, more often than not composed of blue collar workers or hoodlums. In india excepting a few, biker groups have wealthy guys who are the only ones who could afford a 8-10 lakh or more bike.
So motorcycle culture is a socio-economic phenomenon?
@@motorinc absolutely. Hell's Angels comes to mind.
My father says:- a car overtakes us wrongly/ impatiently (in Pithoragarh, Uttarakhand)don’t be impatient or critical to them.
“MAYBE HIS MOTHER IS UNWELL AT HOME.”
that statement always keeps me calm.😊 whenever I get impatient, with reckless drivers here in Greater Himalayas.
Thanks for sharing @Ka84run.
This is the exact reason why i don't ride in groups anymore. There's always a peer pressure to keep up so that no one thinks u ride slow. This perception needs to change that if someone rides slow, he's not an enthusiast. I now ride with just selective frnds and we ride very peaceful which is a million times better than riding in an unknown group and putting urself under pressure.
Absolutely right!
Completely off topic apologies but I am looking for a new set of tyres for my r 15 v 4 , something that is an all rounder but I can't find any good tyres or recommendations anywhere so was hoping to ask(Shumi sir) what he would suggest or anyone else in the comment section who can guide me to a good tyre selection thank u 🙇
What tyres're on your list
@@motorinc hi good morning , I was thinking michelins Or ceat but i am not sure how good they are haven't seen any reviews or anything
It's time for Trikes, why no trikes in India ?
There are! Bajaj RE, Piaggio Ape... 😆
I will be joining the motorcycle community soon, hopefully will get a classic 350 or H'ness/CB 350.and yeah I agree whenever you open insta/RUclips, you are bombarded with reels of idiots doing stupid things on bikes. It's so sad that that has become the norm and inspires kids to replicate the same idiotic behaviour. All because it gets them views and engagement
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amazing you guys should do a similar one on SUV culture, we just saw what happened in GGN where the 5star SUV was coming wrong way & killed a person. And I am from Delhi NCR, going wrong side on that cyber city road is just plain arrogance & disregard for the life of other people ... nd this person was a repeat offender
I purchased R15v4 racing blue 6 months back just by watching your video, thank you so much for giving wonderful suggestion. I enjoy riding my bike in my early age , I am just 20, i travel 400 kms every month on my bike.
I really appreciate your work.
This bike mannn,, I eagerly wait for corners now 😅.
Wish you awesome rides!
Much much much needed video as mostly young bikers who are picking up their first bikes are exposed to alot of the ugly side of motorcycling due to short vertical content. Great video
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Shumi- what is culture ??
Kartikeya- am i giving a viva ??
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Ready or not…
multistrada is a house-size motorcycle XD
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This is not a podcast; it is a professional class on motorcycling.
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Beautifully discussed brother. I’m 20 and got my license 2 years back, I’m the guy who always encourages everyone to wear seatbelt even in third row, without fastening belt I refuse to move the vehicle and trust me it makes me feel secure as a driver to drive when they’re safe. It has prevented many small mishaps or road rages just because I was confident because my family was just extra safe and I avoided those small small mishaps. Road safety is nothing more than some value education lecture I believe. Also I would try to be a little bit more patient on road and be more forgiving. Adios shumi and Kartik, would love to learn in your track school once I get my first R15M😁
All the best @chaitanyakarpe7381! Thanks for sharing.
Kartikeyee and Shumi, you guys have touched upon the exact problem this Motorcycling Subculture is plagued with.
Patience and Consideration truly is the only way one can become a better representative of Humans on Motorcycles.
Indeed @SigmundQuadros.
Can we get a video regarding riding gear recommendation...like helmet, shoes etc .. which most people can buy .. because most of the people won't be able to buy agv, shoei etc...
Request noted HD!
I don't understand this obsession with doing 300 on public roads. And in comments people even appreciating. Dude they are not just risking themselves, they are putting our lives in danger.
Can you guys do a video on correct riding posture?
We’ll figure something! Thanks!
I think we should be taught and tested for these things by our vehicle licensing authorities, before licenses are issued to commuters. I believe in India we don’t test how to drive or ride, we test whether one knows how to operate a motor vehicle. There’s a big difference.
I lived in New Zealand for 3 years, and still hold a valid NZ drivers license from them while also holding an Indian license for far longer than that. It took me four tries to qualify to drive in NZ. The three times I failed, I attribute it to unlearning all the bad driving from India.
Now that I’ve been back for a few years, I see that it annoys others on the road when I’m the only one that’s following my lane, or honouring right-of-way, or giving and expecting others to give a 3 second warning via their turn signals before actually changing lanes. I find people dangerously overtaking me all the time, even when I’m following the speed limit, and that frankly is just the effect of what we are taught and not taught.
One can have all the right skills and display all the right behaviour; however what is correct in India will mostly be dictated by what we are punished for, rather than what we are rewarded for. If the police catch a motorcyclist just because he is wearing gear, and let go of so so many who make right turns on signals even though they are standing on the extreme left; then that instinctively tells us what our society expects and respects. Hint: it’s not being considerate.
Hey VK! Thanks for making some parts of the road awesome.
Motorists need to respect the regulations even if they may personally disagree with them
If they feel very strongly about an unfair or ridiculous regulation then they should organize themselves into an activist group and lobby for change
However we are already seeing stricter enforcement of speed limits which may even lead to FIRs
High profile car accidents with fatalities to bikers, cyclists and pedestrians in all probability may lead to things like speed governors and strict bhp limits
Of course some mororists will flout these and the consequences for the rest of us may be even more draconian
Just a tangential point from the discussion at the 41 minute mark. I have ridden 3 different well run in Himalayan 450s now and all 3 of them had a very well behaved 95-115kph zone that just smoothed out from the initial harshness. And that happened at a point much beyond the recommended break-in of 500kms. They all went much smoother at the 1800-2200km odo mark. Three is too small a sample size to gain any significant knowledge, but from forum discussions as well, it seems the himalayan smooths out over 2500 kms. I have to point it out because I consider it to be the only Achilles heel in an otherwise perfect Indian ADV (no I have zero issues with a tube tyre). The himalayan story has really gotten lost in that vibey character narrative.
Thanks MOM! The tangent is appreciated!
17:58 well said Karthikeya, this is something which the new Riders should know. Totally agree 💯
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This is such a usefull and great talk, I had one of the best hour listening and learning through this. This should reach to more and more people, because this is such a gem for us..
Glad it was helpful!
Great video guys i Learnt a lot today 👍
Glad to hear it!
Drop the top speed kya hai question. I absolutely love the comment.
Everytime I have bought a new machince car, motorbike, heck even scooters, I have been asked this question and my answer is I don't know I haven't tested and don't intend to.
The other question that is common is, I heard that this bike/car is not stable at 140/150/160/170 etc speed. Did you feel it and my answer always is you shouldn't be doing that on Indian Roads.
I love this podcast and I learnt something new today which will make use the roads better.
I’ve been driving for almost a decade now, and had always considered myself a car guy. I rode gear less mopeds to commute for the major part of my life, and never had I even tried riding a motorcycle with gears. A year ago, I picked up my first bike, and a month ago, sold that and upgraded to something better. In total, I’ve been a motorcyclist for about a little over a year now. No doubt, I am absolutely loving it. Did a few solo trips, and rides with friends. The reason I am mentioning this is because, this podcast answered so many of my questions, gave me such lovely insights and I just gained a lot of guidance as to how I should enjoy motorcycling responsibly. Thank you guys, loved every minute of this!
Thanks for joining us @nikhilkashyap1917.
I am a responsible driver first then I took time to start my adventure motor cycling with a Himalayan 450. Your thoughts are so useful and I resonate with them. Drive Responsibly Coz Roads are meant to create memories and not horror.
As a beginner in this space, I really had no idea about these things and how to go about it. Since I don't know anyone in my circle who likes to ride(and I am from a small city) so I had no point of reference and watching those high speed videos on highways always made me feel that maybe I am not made for it since it looked damn too dangerous. Finally seeing Shumi and Kartikeya Sir speaking about it, it is very encouraging for guys like me who like the idea of touring on bike to learn and grow . And what kartikeya sir said about slowing down when there's intersection coming , I thought maybe experienced riders wouldn't have this problem and they would have some magical talent to speed through it now it feels like they are just playing with their luck. So thank you for guiding us and season 2 of thisconnect is going awesome can't wait for upcoming videos.❤️
Glad we could help Yash! Ride safe!
@@motorinc thanks a lot!😁 And lots of love ❤️❤️
Great video! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
On the topic of 'motorcyclists v/s cops', I feel like the main issue is that most of us know about the existence of MotoGP, and the fact that they're covered in different 'clothes'. The cops see these clothes on the road, and go like "If the people I have sometimes seen on TV wearing such clothes are going so fast, these guys must be doing the same too."
The problem is that there is very little awareness of riding gear aside from helmet. Like people will tell you to buy a helmet, but what they are not aware of is the fact that not many injuries occur there. Sure, you'll get a concussion, whiplash, but atleast you'll be functioning in a few weeks. However, if you are only wearing a helmet, and nothing else, your chances of being in the hospital for a long time increases dramatically. Sure, you won't get head injuries, but dude, is that worth having a fractured arm and broken legs?
What Shumi sir said is very true, we don't do enough to make a good impression. The people going 200 on public roads and filming that might be doing that for fun, and might be the best rider in the world off-camera, but what you're showing is you being reckless, and there are enough people doing that on camera, to correlate biker=bad, and that's the problem. And underage teens like me get easily swayed by that for the most part, and think, "That's what biking is," and we try to do that and be 'cool', which increases the hatred towards bikers, and the good motorcyclists are not noticed, who actually ride well and follow the rules.
My friend tells me how he pulls wheelies on his father's RX100. Sure, I've learned how to ride at the age of 13 too, but I don't plan on riding much till I get my license, although I do go for a few rides here and there. He's 16, by the way, which just proves the whole point of this video.
-Best regards, Ajinkya.
Thanks for sharing Ajinkya! Thanks for trying to be different.
@@motorinc :D I'm just lucky to have come across you, getting great advice for my future. 🙏
This is the single most important video/docu/podcast made on motorcyclists, for motorcyclists, by motorcyclists. From a personal standpoint, being a silent member of the motorcycling fraternity for the past decade, I am so grateful to you guys for getting together and putting time into this - this most important video for motorcyclists.
Shumi and Karthi are one of the few motorcyclists I hugely respect, idolize and try to learn from. I have been following them through the various media outlets they have graced with their presence and expertise since my incipient days as a motorcyclist.
Thank you for drawing the line between Motorcyclist and "Biker". I have had numerous debates with my fellow riders about the distinction between the two.
Thank you all for making the effort to educate the masses to be part of the solution rather than adding to the problem. All of you at Motorinc are the trailblazers and torchbearers for responsible motorcycling. More power to you and Godspeed my dear friends.
Thanks for joining @peedarp8. And for the kind words!
Exactly that's what happened on blore - mysuru expressway... initially bikes were allowed but due to irresponsible riding bikes aren't allowed on it anymore
I agree with a lot of points, as someone who is quite young and was trying to get into 'motorcycling' it was very difficult for me to find groups/clubs to be with. Because I did not already have anyone in my circles with this hobby, I turned to social media to find groups and met with a good number. Unfortunately, riding with all of these people made me feel very unsafe due to many reasons like the group itself being not disciplined or even due to the skill gap(me being on the lower end, which is completely fine). There have been times when I attended some events where I just totally felt out of place and even started questioning if I was even a 'motorcyclist'
We need more people to encourage being considerate to make sure we do not get legislated out like shumi mentioned which has already started happening in a lot of the bridges and expressways
Be considerate.
I learnt that we are lacking consoderation the ehen i started dropping my kid to his playschool on a scooter. Had to take a right turn into a gully for the school and people wont even pause or slow down to let a scooter pass by which clearly has a kid with his school bag. Troubled with the situation bacuase I want to teach my 3 yr old consideration, but end up teaching him "Jahan hak na mile waha loot sahi". I dont think old saying of us having "Bada Dil" stands anymore in the urban folk.
Thanks for clearing that considerate people exist and we just need to be taught more of it.
Such an important topic , very well covered as usual. I’ve been to MTM and IBW - and the different just could not be starker.
As with everything in life, I believe a “growth mindset” is the most critical element. Actively disconfirming beliefs with data and inputs from others experiences has helped me improve tremendously as a motorcyclist.
Today’s community solutions (general office/apartment whatsApp groups , manufacturer driven groups etc) - all hinge around a common something - office space, apartment or bike of choice. We need a way for the common “something” to match on to be the core motorcycling beliefs/“frequency”.
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This was brilliant. I try to be as considerate, patient and respectful as possible on the road. But there are times when frustration takes over (Bangalore traffic isn't kind) and I indulge in behaviour that I myself find appalling. Whenever I feel that way, I will come back to this video. This video addresses the bigger picture in a way that hasn't been done before. Thank you for this content MotorInc, what a start to the weekend!
Heya Vineet! We have our weak moments. Breathe. And thank you for being better.
I would like to know, if you could share the motorcyclist culture in other countries which you don't like.
Since I was a kid, whenever I felt down, I'd take a ride on my motorcycle. 90% of the time, I'd come back in a good mood and with a solution to my problems. I've probably tried every riding tip Shumi has mentioned. I won't stop motorcycling even if the culture is fading.
However, I'm saving for my first car because of safety concerns. Riding gear is heavy and inconvenient to carry around, and a recent Fortnine video has made me question its safety. I've been searching for a solution to this problem for months, but without any luck. It looks like I might have to give up something that's been so important to me since childhood.
The idea is you make it better. We make it better together.
Listening to this podcast only to know the names of the guys who you guys said build motorcycles
I am soooo very much interested it would be really helpful if you could help me/us know about more of good motorcycle culture channels
Sweet.
What a fantastic discussion! Been riding for 21 years and have ridden quite a bit across the country, all types of bikes.
Never did group rides unless they were with friends I grew up with. For precisely the same reasons - I don't identify with what today or even earlier constituted as "bikers" or "biking culture". Never been to IBW or any of that other stuff, just doesn't interest me at all. And whatever I see of it online is pure cringe.
But I do relate to the problem at hand. I just hope this reaches the right audience!
Hello! Happy rides to you!
Bang on! To the point and so relatable. Motorbikes are the most vulnerable mode of transportation. Anyone owning a motorbike should understand this.
It's really inspiring. You guys do a great job spreading awareness regarding motorcycling, i have watched every podcast and review of yours, and it has taught me a lot about motorcycling. This episode and the other one with small bikes and single motor garages made a huge impact on me, inspiring me to buy a basic commuter for future purchases after listening to that small bike podcast i started to look differently at my splendor and other small bikes and there has been a major change in my thought process, good job Shumi sir and Kartikeya sir
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Motorcycling is about individual riding. I do not get this idea of group rides. It defeats the purpose of motorcycling. If you to want go in groups go get a car not a motorbike.
This was great!! Can you please do a podcast that brings the true nature of KTM to the general public who have a stereotypical perception of KTMs in India? Very few people know what KTM really is. KTM fans support!
Thanks for the suggestion @parthparmaj7438
I started my motorcycling journey in Bhubaneswar, Odisha. When I got my himmy 411 I saw the riding culture only based around big bikes and weekend riders and mostly around Instagram. So I kept riding solo because couldn't find any like minded people.
And if you see the comments, @TheOtherBigGuy, there's a lot of people who felt the same as you and became solo riders too!
When i got back to my hometown during wfh days, joined a local club . Being a member of BAC, the experience was harrowing to say the least. Teenagers without DLs coming in crocs, w/o any safety equipment and driving and drifting at insane speeds. Never rode again with them. Problem is tier2 and tier3 folks want to emulate all cool looking cultures minus the safety considerations. Biking is becoming another source of reel making hobby
Sadly.