@@soyeonsoulmate SHOPPING LIST 😂😂 No but fr he needs to slow down bro is gonna whip out a folder to see if u match his type there is a different between preference and straight mental illness (im reaching its a joke)
" he liked chokers (cause he likes to imagine a collar on girls and him holding the leash). He liked long necks (to strangle and choke, he did it before) hated girls who acted like boys ( cause they'll be harder to control for him)". Dudes a fucking psycho, but y'all knew that already 😂
@@Tyrone_Moansidk if its just because i dont like white boys but hes not attractive one bit to me hes so run of the mill n his personality makes it worse😭
And he hates girls who wear shorts with pockets (bc they can rely on themselves to hold things) and who wear sneakers and dress shoes (bc they can actually run away and aren't immobile) lol
I love how each of the features he loves was never attained by one signle individual. The perfect girl only existed through various girls, showing that what he wanted was impossible
@@lerie7934Yea I was pretty surprised at first to. But I guess when you live in a white society (aka when the beauty standard is being a naked mole rat) you start to fall into all the conditions.
bro is literally just tall and has a good jawline. thats it. THATS LITERALLY IT. (yo btw [edit] jacob is mad pretty, im just talking character wise Nate sucks but girl I love jacob sm)
You still don't get it? Women aren't people. Men are people. Women are women... that's why, to fit "femininity", a woman is not allowed to show anything that makes her human. That's why a man being "like a woman" is shameful.
People reveal themselves if you're even remotely paying attention. Also, if you go to school with someone for a long time you get to know them well. 5 days a week, 9 months a year is a lot of time.
Personally I don’t care at all if it’s another person, but I hate my own body hair because I’m autistic and I get sensory issues with it lol. As long as you’re making the choice on your own and you’re hygienic you can do whatever with your body hair, Nate can stfu
Skirts, short shorts, heels, good posture, fruity spray, and tan lines describe a child? Or is it just the body hair comment that u thought describe a child?
@@WinterM-hr3xvtapes can’t make someone gay 💀💀 It can traumatize you into doing overreacting and purposely making your “preferences” like this so that you can stray away from it. But to keep pushing something away can unconsciously appease you because you don’t want it so bad
No it doesn’t. Wait until you find out that body hair is hair that grows on various parts of our bodies besides our head. Women should not have body hair, it’s nasty.
Most guys that have these types of standards in the real world only have them because women want them. Your typical guy doesn’t get enough attention to be able to have many standards if any
Maddie and Cassie had no good golas in life they were a hot looking mess . That's why he loved Jules and his personality is the sole reason why Jules hated him back
@@Ezra-nq7hh Meanwhile they freak out of a guy wants the woman to be a certain weight. The same women who demand a guy to be tall. One can control ones weight, but not height 💅🏽
@angelgray8899 that's not true not all women freak out but it's just some of them do because expecting weight sounds a little meaner then talking about height 😅
*i love the acceptance and normalization of the sexualisation of portrayed minors* That’s literally what shows like this and multiple other shows and movies are flooded with on Netflix.
to be fair it's not like this doesn't happen irl, those shows just decide not to shy away from reality. I agree they're sexualized but sexualization in the media is not always linked to sexual objectification towards the viewers, a lot of the time sexualization is used to portray challenges and in euphoria it's used to portray the downsides of teenhood ( especially among girls )
@@onlycows726yeah but it’s kinda like a weird cycle in a way. Movies and TV have the power to change people’s perception about things. Another example could be Pretty Little Liars. That show featured a gross “relationship” between a student and her teacher and many of the younger fans approved of it. As they grew up and rewatched the show, they realized that it was wrong. However, their opinions of the relationship when they were younger could have been very dangerous if they were to find themselves in a similar situation. They were fans of the relationship and some even idolized it, which could lead them to be groomed irl because of what they see on TV and they don’t really know any better bc they are just kids. Yes, it showcases the bad parts about high school, but it could lead young girls and high schoolers to also idolize and try to imitate this bad behavior because they see it on TV and think it’s cool.
Yea cuz hormones flooding though you don’t make you sexual IN ANY WAY. Teens ….interested in ….SEX? Being sexual? Come ON. Just children. 🙄😂🤡 Christ what sick delusions anymore.
To me it makes sense after watching the entire series that Nate, having internalized homophobia, and having had a lot of pressure from his dad, might make him believe that having a preference for feminine women is a way of overcompensating and attempting to reaffirm his own heterosexuality to himself and others
I've never watched Euphoria and don't plan to, so this explanation/observation was very helpful to understanding what was happening. Thank you! Also this reaffirms the internalized homophobia bc what cishet man notices the details of clothing and is THAT judgy about it (coming from a queer man myself). Like the bare physical traits are very toxic hetero standards but the skirt preference? The specific shoes? Miss gurl...
@@bodhicrouse7377 Yeah Nate in the series is a very complex character. He was traumatised by his father in his childhood. Thats why he developed very problematic behaviour. Anger issues, fixation on hyper feminine girls, no emotional connections to people etc. He was portrayed as gay in a school musical that made fun of everyone, which made him extremly angry. We dont know if hes gay or has extreme internalised homophobia🤷♀️
Hi, I don’t watch the show, but what you’re describing happens a lot in real life. “But he always had a pretty girlfriend!“ It’s something you hear a lot from people who know someone who came out a little later in life. It’s like they were overcompensating to try to hide what they knew deep down inside. It makes sense, really.
@@RUclipsCat-ie1pcsounds like that Nate was inspired on the closeted gay guy I was talking for months 😭🤣 he's exactly like that, problems with his homophobic dad, internalized homophobia, misogynistic, and hella narcissist (lying, projecting, blaming, calling names, accusations, trust issues), so I just think he was gay in denial cuz at the end he said the fact he wanted to be with black men and trans women wasn't gay at all 🧐 also he didn't like boobs but penises was a different story xD I hope he come out someday 🤧
Used to be like this kinda but lost the excitement of seeing my girl because I was always so hyper focused on what she wore, changed my mindset and know I love anything she wears because she’s the one wearing it. Clothes are clothes but the person is priceless.
This is actually really nice and wholesome to read, I’m glad you were able to change yourself for the better after realising your love for your girlfriend outweighed any physical expectations. It takes a really mature person to see the faults in their mindset and actually do something about it, so major props to you, I wish you and your girlfriend the best
i wasn’t being literal i just said the 50s because there were plenty of sexist videos and magazines showing women how to look and be the perfect girl to get a husband
I don't understand how someone can "hate" bodyhair? You literally live with it everyday, it keeps dirt away from the skin, and we aren't turning into whales anytime soon.
Notice how it’s all physical attributes, describing the perfect doll, he’s only interested in his outlets and not on making connection and finding partnership
@@chimchimsjamkookies4242 Could you remind me of when? I just recall dic pics being found on his phone, which is a sign but could also stem from personal insecurities.
I feel like everyone is missing the point of The Jacobs Family theme/message in Euphoria. Nates dad had a heavy, graphic porn addiction which later then affected his two sons in the future. Nate now clearly has a hard time respecting women and seeing them as human. This whole scene proves that. Women are ONLY potential mating partners to him so why should he talk to the girl with body hair that sits like a man, right? If a woman doesn’t want to mate with him, why should he even talk to them? Jules is a perfect example of this. Women are only something for him to toy with because of all the porn he himself is consuming and the example his father was setting for him; with a similar problem regarding toxic masculinity; not accepting the fact that a man can love another man and still be a man. It is truly one of the saddest things fragile, toxic masculinity has created and I hope that one day people will care enough to stop this endless, graphic cycle that eventually leads to a man putting his hands on a woman. (Maddie) It needs to be talked about and Euphoria did that, but like always, this is normalized and “boys will be boys” is sadly still heavily programmed into human brains at this day and age. I hope the future is much kinder.
this isn't what purity and femininity is tho this is toxic western beauty standards. Nate is supposed to embody a misogynist douche bag. this is anything but femininity this is the "toxic male gaze"
@@soobintheestalIion His father cheated with men and trans women. He recorded all of them illegally, and Nate has watched all of them throughout childhood. He secretly despises his father and is deeply uncomfortable with masculine things that aren't him. So his only perception of love was lies and abuse, he tried his best to make sure all his partners were super feminine and nothing like his father's tastes. He could actually be gay, the dic pics being a sign, but it could have been a way for him to take back the control he felt like he missed when younger.
@@alexmunch9275 true but his dad is pansexual by definition and likes women too but nate specifically is uncomfortable abt him being with men. nate is already a terrible person like his dad even as a perceived straight man. he even tries to protect him dad from getting in trouble for the tapes. him being abusive might be bc of his dad but he doesn’t try hard to not be a bad person he only tries to not be gay. it seems the only thing he doesn’t wanna accept that he has in common with his dad is his sexuality. he calls his dad the f slur but then calls lexi’s play homophobic when it’s himself being called gay. i think it’s definitely internalized homophobia.
@@lesliejohnson-nelson4003 If it doesn't make sense, then why does he need to avoid all those things he considers masculine or for men, literally the point of that character is to show toxic masculinity that represses men who then repress other men, like nate's dad (a gay man repressed by his dad to be as masculine and straight as possible) repressed nate, he is literally a man who needs to reinforce and assert his masculinity every chance he gets (especially in front of other men) because he is scared to explore his own sexuality and turn out to be gay. That's literally what Nate represents in his series lol.
Just because you're gay, it doesn't mean you have no taste in love. Even gay man doesn't want to date a guy like him, and it doesn't matter if you're straight or gay 😭😭 There's nothing bad about loving same genders.
That doesn't make him gay. He is not obligated to like every type of woman there is, he is gay but not because of that. You should have standards for men too. Handsome guys are on another level.
he perfectly curated his preferences in a way that it wouldn’t make him seem different. he took any sign of masculinity out and made sure the girls were ad feminine as possible. that way nobody could ever even insinuate that he was gay.😭😭 EDIT:guys this comment isn’t that deep i just was over analyzing this scene the other day it’s just for fun😭😭 but love the lil debate in the replies
I dont think thats the case at all. I have a theory. Nate couldve been molested or abused as a child (possibly from an uncle, etc) hence his insane behavior, mental disorders, extreme reaction to his father and general aversion to anything masculine.
@@xitzbit926or he was just a closeted gay dude, all of them are misogynistics and always thinking about impossible standards for us, I have some experience with that lol
@@lamusa2013tbh there’s no reason both statements can’t be true. He could have very well been taken advantage of as a child by an older male. Which could have led to him growing up to be misogynistic, egotistical and struggle with his sexuality
Guys always remember to hate the characters but not the people because the characters Nate is hated by everyone due to the wonderful performance if Jacob never played so good that character would never have been hated so hats off to the actor ❤ never spread hate to the actor
He loves all the most stereotypically feminine stuff but hates the things that could in any way be seen as masculine (ex. Dress shoes, body hair) even when they are on girls. It’s good writing hinting at the underlying issue pretty early on.
@@arolamichellenah she literally said “he hates sneakers AND dress shoes”. And body hair definitely isn’t a masculine thing (everyone has it lol) but it’s viewed that way by society hence why there’s so many ads products and procedures for hair removal (which is usually targeted towards women).
@@arolamichellebody hair is definitely seen as masculine by most people lol. part of that is because men have significantly more body hair and it grows faster and thicker compared to women, part of it is societal.
Cuz I caught how Rue is only saying that he HATES it, not that he's not attracted to that stuff. I'm trans and was in denial for a while and I hated body hair and avoided anything that would define my muscles and I realized it was because I was afraid of anyone thinking I was a guy cuz I felt like one and that was terrifying.
In my opinion I think she overheard it from the girls Nate used to date, especially from maddie. Rue seems to be the school chameleon, she's chill with everyone, and everyone is chill with her, and she was kinda friends with maddie, and the other girls at some point of their life. So she probably learned it it from them. Now the real question is, how does she know about Nate's dad's whole gay backstory, I wanna know that, cuz I sure as hell know Nate's family would never expose themselves that way.
Jules needs therapy then she can actually fall in love fr and realise what type of men she truly prefers. Otherwise ppl u think u fall for are just your unhealthy brain choosing whose bad but familiar and makes u feel u need him/her. Those feelings aren't u falling for them, u ain't in love.
God i laughed so hard after watching this 😂 Nate doesn't want an actual human girlfriend, he wants an Anime character girl..... He's not a red flag, he is the epitome of boy you should avoid your whole life 🤣
Guys, for those of us who haven't read the lesbian masterdoc, essentially it covers what some women do to cover up their attraction to girls and their lack of it when it comes to men. That's what Nate is doing here. He is making a checklist of things he needs to be attracted to in order to be called heterosexual. I don't know if it's what was intended, but it really seems that way considering Nate's character of see-sawing between gay and straight. I think it's because of his dad that he's tried to make himself as straight as possible through stereotypes
And, on a more realistic note, doesn't know how to wash his ass properly, considers stepping into a cloud of axe bodyspray a shower, is a big fan of Andrew Tate, complains about women being whores but ALSO complains about being rejected sexually, and has no clue on how to warm up a can of soup XD
He just wants a wattpad y/n 💀
💀
@@11R1N11 LMAOOOOO
Yessss...screw this guy.
Fr-
Nah, bc wattpad y/n is not like other girls, she’s one of the boys 😂
Bros creating a character
No bro has a type
@@allyssadiamonds3766Well I don't if anyone would want a picky guy like him
@@soyeonsoulmate so because he has a type his picky
@@allyssadiamonds3766 All depends, with you only want one or two things in your partner then okay, but not a whole ass shopping list
@@soyeonsoulmate SHOPPING LIST 😂😂 No but fr he needs to slow down bro is gonna whip out a folder to see if u match his type there is a different between preference and straight mental illness (im reaching its a joke)
“Hates body hair” damn I guess he has a thing for alopecia 💀
G.I. Jane 2, can’t wait to see it😂😂😂
😂this got me wheezing
@@TheMandaloreFettthis is a wild comment 😂😭
@@kayvia8216 Thank you.😊
Nothing wrong with liking people with alopecia..
" he liked chokers (cause he likes to imagine a collar on girls and him holding the leash). He liked long necks (to strangle and choke, he did it before) hated girls who acted like boys ( cause they'll be harder to control for him)". Dudes a fucking psycho, but y'all knew that already 😂
That's a good one🤣👍
@@Tyrone_Moanslmaoooo “i could fix him” 😭😭
@@Tyrone_Moansidk if its just because i dont like white boys but hes not attractive one bit to me hes so run of the mill n his personality makes it worse😭
And he hates girls who wear shorts with pockets (bc they can rely on themselves to hold things) and who wear sneakers and dress shoes (bc they can actually run away and aren't immobile) lol
I foookeeennn hated nate omgg
Bro wants those female Wattpad protagonist 😂
LMAOAOAO NAW FR
Fr like he might as well have wattpad
He just wants Y/N fr
@@pigeons-and-pebbles 🤣
Even the girl protags in my wattpad stories ain’t that idealistic and fake.
I love how each of the features he loves was never attained by one signle individual. The perfect girl only existed through various girls, showing that what he wanted was impossible
I like this take it’s so true and mirrors real life behaviors
It's literally not. Most girls are just slobs who don't respect themselves.
That's why he's gay. Sure thing he's not too picky about guys 💀
It was never implied that he wanted all of them in the same girl, it was just likes and dislikes
Lol where tf did you get that? 😂 both Cassie and Maddy fit that mold perfectly
‘He hates body hair’
*My latino ass dancing happily with hairy arms.*
me😂
So what? You're not his preference. He didn't ask you to stop having body hair. Stupid people here bruh
same as fuck girl ! never had anyone say anything to me ! hahaha
i find really weird that maddy was the one that passed all his conditions since shes latina and we all have hairy arms¿¿¿
@@lerie7934Yea I was pretty surprised at first to. But I guess when you live in a white society (aka when the beauty standard is being a naked mole rat) you start to fall into all the conditions.
Damn this list is longer than South Korean beauty standards💀
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Lmfaooo💀💀💀
Lol nothing can top our standards
Good because noone should deal with him
It's taller than most Koreans...
“he LOVES men..”
😂
He did too… in the show lmao
The musical about him in the gym/locker room was honestly a masterpiece, totally worth the standing ovation. 👏👏👏
@@onepotatotwopotato8920fr when he started getting mad I started laughing 😭
Fact 😂
Bro acts like that one kid who thinks everyone’s obssessed with him 💀
Aw no comments ?lemme fix that.
Everyone is obsessed with him
They are...
Why does he sound like a teenage girl
Fr like
bro is literally just tall and has a good jawline. thats it. THATS LITERALLY IT.
(yo btw [edit] jacob is mad pretty, im just talking character wise Nate sucks but girl I love jacob sm)
He rlly traded those two decent features in exchange for his brain 💀
@@junnakashima4552 fr cause wtf even was his entire being💀
@@m1ffyyluvhe rich,tall, white, good looking, captain of football team of his school, good athlete and more
just a reminder that we are talking about the physical appearance of a real person and that shouldn’t be targeted
@@saramunoz1068fr it becomes personal when people judge their looks cause the actor didnt do anything in real life
Why do people keep saying that an angry or loud female is a masculine trait? Humans are loud, angry, and demanding. That trope will never stick.
Apparently a woman cant be angry
Boxer
@hybridboy5729 thet mom angry😭
I think it already stuck, see patriarchal bullshxt.. but let's keep "disappointing" those who buy into it😈
You still don't get it? Women aren't people. Men are people. Women are women... that's why, to fit "femininity", a woman is not allowed to show anything that makes her human. That's why a man being "like a woman" is shameful.
imagine getting a role in euphoria just to get a one second shot of your cankles
And in the credits it says "Cankle girl" with their name. 😂
@@evelesrdz2593actually??
Lmao
a take on your face spitting out
@@evelesrdz2593 I’d pass away 😭
The way Rue describes herself in everything Nate hates😭😭🤣
But she HAS BODY HAIR AND ACTS LIKE A BOY so she escaped his likes💀
@@user-re2xx8db4qshe is lesbian so
@@user-re2xx8db4qThank God she did lmaodn
Nate had a secret thing for rue in the show
❤
The thing is, there are many dudes out there just like Nate. 😭
exactly and it sucks
They’re so annoying omfg they never shut up 😭
Well, fuck 'em, they don't deserve any of us
I swear sometimes u literally just want to yell shut uppp already, even though you’re already yelling in your head 😂
While they be looking like a goblin themselves😂 it's always the ugliest looking guys that talks the most sh_t about women
How does Rue even know this? 😂
Ikr😂😂😂
Omniscient narrator
That was my exact question! I came to the comments to see if someone had the answer 😂
People reveal themselves if you're even remotely paying attention. Also, if you go to school with someone for a long time you get to know them well. 5 days a week, 9 months a year is a lot of time.
Right!!😂😂
Rue be knowing everything about everyone
That's why her hair is so big, it's full of secret
@@karastark5363lmaooo
@@karastark5363😂
@@karastark5363 that is so fetch
@@MizushimeeeGretchen stop trying to make fetch happen, it’s not going to happen 😐😒
Nate is the definition of Red Flag 🚩
Bro that’s my brothers name
@@ellieburnell3242 😂🤣
There is no real reason to hate body hair
Yeah your right there is no reason to hate body hair its natural like it doesnt matter nate
brazilians and latino people
* left the chat *
Personally I don’t care at all if it’s another person, but I hate my own body hair because I’m autistic and I get sensory issues with it lol. As long as you’re making the choice on your own and you’re hygienic you can do whatever with your body hair, Nate can stfu
It doesn't fit my personal aesthetic
@@anastasiaarmitage okay? Want a cookie
so his ideal type is Jules 😂
Jules doesnt even look close to feminine
@@francisadodo9399Probably because he’s a guy
@@francisadodo9399Jules in season 1 is the most feminine looking character in the show
@@eiavops4576 she is trans*
@@eiavops4576its a girl
hope he enjoys wearing tennis skirts and heels then
HAH
Haha it does hit different when u hear it as a list of his own preferences for himself.
Oh yeah let’s get mad bc the girl wanted one thing …. Y’all are dumb asf
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HA
That's some American psycho behavior 😭
Lol idk if you’ve seen the show but def psycho behavior
Yes I think they drew from the movie to make the character prototype lol
Let's see Paul Allen's type.
Not rly, its called a preference
@@InvertedBreadpreferences can be misogynistic hope this helps
The fact that Nate would hate me as a person is SENDING ME😂😂
same here, I'm everything that he hates 😂😂
I mean he hates any woman tbf lol😂
Bro want’s a lil girl💀
Nah he want a femboy
So he isn't into humans...bro gon be alone forever or sumn 😭
my bro isn't even into mammals because every mammal has hair in some way or the other 😭
@@xylophone_8888 small nose? Long neck? No body hair? Wait till he hears about snakes 😂😂😂
@@xylophone_8888osaka 😱😱😱
@@abcxyz-dp4rlhaha
Ironically two friends fight over him and he’s the most popular guy
Who tf does he think he is ☠️
nah fr tho
Wdym?
@@Whooo-sf9nqnahh youre mega fuckin weird
Nates gau
Fr, is this a movie tho?
I think the dude is describing a dolphin ngl
Ah yes because dolphins have thigh gaps,pedicures, and the ability to wear shorts and chokers 💀
@@rambopack9140 they can 😈
Nate when he realises humans are mammals:😱😓😠
Bro described a literal child
He only wanted this bc he was into guys but didn’t want to show any sign of it
Lmfao
You are sick
No, he wants white girls
Skirts, short shorts, heels, good posture, fruity spray, and tan lines describe a child?
Or is it just the body hair comment that u thought describe a child?
His dad tapes really traumatized him so he made sure his preference was as feminine as possible 😭😭😭😭
I thought he was fruity that’s what his dads tapes turned him into
@@WinterM-hr3xvtapes can’t make someone gay 💀💀 It can traumatize you into doing overreacting and purposely making your “preferences” like this so that you can stray away from it. But to keep pushing something away can unconsciously appease you because you don’t want it so bad
that is actually a really great point
That's terrible
Omg you’re right. I didn’t even notice that.
Wait till he finds out that the hair on your head and eyelashes counts as body hair-
"He wants a hairless woman, bald and no eyelashes/brows.🥺'
No it doesn’t. Wait until you find out that body hair is hair that grows on various parts of our bodies besides our head. Women should not have body hair, it’s nasty.
"You like good posture"
*sitting like shrimp*
Thats why girls don't Want him lol
actually they do want him...
Most guys that have these types of standards in the real world only have them because women want them. Your typical guy doesn’t get enough attention to be able to have many standards if any
*cough* maddie *cough* cassie
Maddie and Cassie had no good golas in life they were a hot looking mess . That's why he loved Jules and his personality is the sole reason why Jules hated him back
Cassie does girl is thirsty over him 😭
I hope he likes being single too
Thank you so much for the likes❤
The irony is these are the guys that get girls before anyone else😂😂
When a woman has a list like this, but for guys, nobody bets an eye and says she has "good standards." 🤦🏽♀️
@angelgray8899 women just want a tall and funny guy that's kinda the standards for most womenXD
@@Ezra-nq7hh Meanwhile they freak out of a guy wants the woman to be a certain weight. The same women who demand a guy to be tall. One can control ones weight, but not height 💅🏽
@angelgray8899 that's not true not all women freak out but it's just some of them do because expecting weight sounds a little meaner then talking about height 😅
*i love the acceptance and normalization of the sexualisation of portrayed minors*
That’s literally what shows like this and multiple other shows and movies are flooded with on Netflix.
Sis have you not seen the movie k.I.d.s., thirteenth, dregrassi, she’s too young?
to be fair it's not like this doesn't happen irl, those shows just decide not to shy away from reality. I agree they're sexualized but sexualization in the media is not always linked to sexual objectification towards the viewers, a lot of the time sexualization is used to portray challenges and in euphoria it's used to portray the downsides of teenhood ( especially among girls )
@@onlycows726yeah but it’s kinda like a weird cycle in a way. Movies and TV have the power to change people’s perception about things. Another example could be Pretty Little Liars. That show featured a gross “relationship” between a student and her teacher and many of the younger fans approved of it. As they grew up and rewatched the show, they realized that it was wrong. However, their opinions of the relationship when they were younger could have been very dangerous if they were to find themselves in a similar situation. They were fans of the relationship and some even idolized it, which could lead them to be groomed irl because of what they see on TV and they don’t really know any better bc they are just kids. Yes, it showcases the bad parts about high school, but it could lead young girls and high schoolers to also idolize and try to imitate this bad behavior because they see it on TV and think it’s cool.
Yea cuz hormones flooding though you don’t make you sexual IN ANY WAY. Teens ….interested in ….SEX? Being sexual? Come ON. Just children. 🙄😂🤡 Christ what sick delusions anymore.
To me it makes sense after watching the entire series that Nate, having internalized homophobia, and having had a lot of pressure from his dad, might make him believe that having a preference for feminine women is a way of overcompensating and attempting to reaffirm his own heterosexuality to himself and others
I've never watched Euphoria and don't plan to, so this explanation/observation was very helpful to understanding what was happening. Thank you!
Also this reaffirms the internalized homophobia bc what cishet man notices the details of clothing and is THAT judgy about it (coming from a queer man myself). Like the bare physical traits are very toxic hetero standards but the skirt preference? The specific shoes? Miss gurl...
@@bodhicrouse7377 Yeah Nate in the series is a very complex character. He was traumatised by his father in his childhood. Thats why he developed very problematic behaviour. Anger issues, fixation on hyper feminine girls, no emotional connections to people etc.
He was portrayed as gay in a school musical that made fun of everyone, which made him extremly angry.
We dont know if hes gay or has extreme internalised homophobia🤷♀️
Hi, I don’t watch the show, but what you’re describing happens a lot in real life. “But he always had a pretty girlfriend!“ It’s something you hear a lot from people who know someone who came out a little later in life. It’s like they were overcompensating to try to hide what they knew deep down inside. It makes sense, really.
@@RUclipsCat-ie1pcsounds like that Nate was inspired on the closeted gay guy I was talking for months 😭🤣 he's exactly like that, problems with his homophobic dad, internalized homophobia, misogynistic, and hella narcissist (lying, projecting, blaming, calling names, accusations, trust issues), so I just think he was gay in denial cuz at the end he said the fact he wanted to be with black men and trans women wasn't gay at all 🧐 also he didn't like boobs but penises was a different story xD I hope he come out someday 🤧
@@bodhicrouse7377do you think that straight men can be drag queens
I’d like to point out that there is a fine line between having standards and straight up being unreasonable
There’s nothing fine about this line. You could fill the Grand Canyon with everything wrong with this
@@chronic_payne5669 yah I’m saying he’s being unreasonable. You’re arguing with me and we have the same opinion 💀
@@Whatisthis438aren't they agreeing tho
We are currently about 3.2 kilometres over that line
@@blacktiger2154 oh yeah we passed that line miles ago
The way that man would vomit at the sight of me 😂
Used to be like this kinda but lost the excitement of seeing my girl because I was always so hyper focused on what she wore, changed my mindset and know I love anything she wears because she’s the one wearing it. Clothes are clothes but the person is priceless.
This is actually really nice and wholesome to read, I’m glad you were able to change yourself for the better after realising your love for your girlfriend outweighed any physical expectations. It takes a really mature person to see the faults in their mindset and actually do something about it, so major props to you, I wish you and your girlfriend the best
thats so cute stopp
actual king bro 👑
can't believe the only asian to ever exist in euphoria is the girl who spits out water
omg u are right, i never even noticed that
That’s weird af
@@BambiDolll you mean my comment or what lmfao
@@maira.azzara what u said lmao it’s kinda weird they rarely add any POC to movies like this lmao 💕🫂
@@BambiDolll oh I see lol you're absolutely rightttt
so his perfect girl is from a 50s perfect women magazine
No, they didn't have slender shoulders and such. They had hourglass shape
Nope because shaving didn't really start to be the norm before the 90s
i wasn’t being literal i just said the 50s because there were plenty of sexist videos and magazines showing women how to look and be the perfect girl to get a husband
@@annabritton9176so he is Sexist because he has a type
@@annabritton9176Oh I see! You’re right! 😅
Everyone hates on Nate and I'm here for it
I don't understand how someone can "hate" bodyhair? You literally live with it everyday, it keeps dirt away from the skin, and we aren't turning into whales anytime soon.
Nate Jacobs: *wants perfection in female form*
Also Nate Jacobs: *gives the most unwashed ass energy*
the kind who doesn't wash his ass in the shower cause thats gay
Almost all of his preferences were of clothing, is that really too much for females to achieve?
AKA - guys today
@@tblgrbls2306 plus the size of lips, nose, ankles, and no body hair. Yet, girls list just 1: a height requirement -and you guys all freak.
@@xejelahtbh both are shallow dont really see why we have to excuse one or another
Notice how it’s all physical attributes, describing the perfect doll, he’s only interested in his outlets and not on making connection and finding partnership
Because he secretly wants a man. He feels no romantic love fir women.
@@chimchimsjamkookies4242That hasn’t been confirmed. His fear and avoidance of men has been, relating to his father’s behavior
@@alexmunch9275 he is closeted gay. It's been confirmed.
@@alexmunch9275bc he doesn’t wanna be like his father ..gay
@@chimchimsjamkookies4242 Could you remind me of when? I just recall dic pics being found on his phone, which is a sign but could also stem from personal insecurities.
I feel like everyone is missing the point of The Jacobs Family theme/message in Euphoria. Nates dad had a heavy, graphic porn addiction which later then affected his two sons in the future. Nate now clearly has a hard time respecting women and seeing them as human. This whole scene proves that. Women are ONLY potential mating partners to him so why should he talk to the girl with body hair that sits like a man, right? If a woman doesn’t want to mate with him, why should he even talk to them? Jules is a perfect example of this. Women are only something for him to toy with because of all the porn he himself is consuming and the example his father was setting for him; with a similar problem regarding toxic masculinity; not accepting the fact that a man can love another man and still be a man. It is truly one of the saddest things fragile, toxic masculinity has created and I hope that one day people will care enough to stop this endless, graphic cycle that eventually leads to a man putting his hands on a woman. (Maddie) It needs to be talked about and Euphoria did that, but like always, this is normalized and “boys will be boys” is sadly still heavily programmed into human brains at this day and age. I hope the future is much kinder.
I remember watching this scene and literally realizing most of these things are something only a child has
He the definition of toxic masculinity 💀
"Masculinity"
Thats hilarious that you equate preferences with "toxic masculinity ". 😂
See thats a nonsense is why feminist are seen as idiots, So i expect you to also define women with high preferences, as “toxic feminity”
@@Katherine.H. preferences shouldn't just be about looks but also by personality and the way they treat you
@peppapiggg I'm sure if he said he liked fat girls, you'd have applauded it.
Bruh he hates me then 💁🏻♀️
Same
Yup
same 😂
Good trust me you don't want a guy like that to like you
trust me it's better that way
Wearing heels to high school is so UNHINGED. Like girl ik those dogs are SCREEEEEEAMING.
The fact that two of those shots are of Jules .. shows he’s in love with her
Nate seems like the kind of guy that says his wife must be a ten while he holds an anime pillow covered in Cheeto dust
That’s literally not Nate, he’s an alpha male
Have you even seen the show 💀
@@xionelectra who's fruity 💀
The way my water just came out my fucking nose 💀🙌🏻
@@xionelectracalling someone an alpha? are you an animal, a furry or deep into the omagaverse.
He absolutely *_LOVES_* men
Kinda cringe why u using gay as an insult huh
@@Max_JustMax I'm not, It's just a joke- I don't mean It as an Insult & I'm very sorry If It came off that wya
@@Max_JustMaxhe likes men in the show r u dense 😭
@@Max_JustMax she literally has gay in her name you sensitive snowflake
@@cashivys he doesn't though, the show never said he likes men, only that he's confused with gender preferences
HELP- he wants wattpad y/n ig
imagine being casted in euphoria just for them 2 show ur 'small' nose.. 😂
Basically he loves the idea of purity and femininity
this isn't what purity and femininity is tho this is toxic western beauty standards. Nate is supposed to embody a misogynist douche bag. this is anything but femininity this is the "toxic male gaze"
Rewatching this really makes you hear why he hated the girls who acted like guys is cuz he was secretly into guys so had to keep that ego of him
That hasn’t been totally confirmed, but his secret hatred of men has been.
@@alexmunch9275and that’s why
@@soobintheestalIion His father cheated with men and trans women. He recorded all of them illegally, and Nate has watched all of them throughout childhood. He secretly despises his father and is deeply uncomfortable with masculine things that aren't him. So his only perception of love was lies and abuse, he tried his best to make sure all his partners were super feminine and nothing like his father's tastes. He could actually be gay, the dic pics being a sign, but it could have been a way for him to take back the control he felt like he missed when younger.
@@alexmunch9275 true but his dad is pansexual by definition and likes women too but nate specifically is uncomfortable abt him being with men. nate is already a terrible person like his dad even as a perceived straight man. he even tries to protect him dad from getting in trouble for the tapes. him being abusive might be bc of his dad but he doesn’t try hard to not be a bad person he only tries to not be gay. it seems the only thing he doesn’t wanna accept that he has in common with his dad is his sexuality. he calls his dad the f slur but then calls lexi’s play homophobic when it’s himself being called gay. i think it’s definitely internalized homophobia.
I feel like being a venomous misogynist and attracted to the same sex can be mutually exclusive, actually!
She's describing what men from my country want 💀
What country are you from????
@@Maya_2111 Algeria
Where are you from?
Fr
It's too much 💀
Honestly, bro just wants a Barbie
Men have nothing but the audacity istg
Sam Levinson writing himself into the show
literally he's such a creep
fax but he wrote a good show 😭
Thanks for writing this‘
Dude is such a creep, crazy to have him making shows in the 2020s…
@@kateysneed3359this show isn't that great
@@fairielikescake in a way yea lol i mean its been done before like skins
Tell me you're scared of being gay without telling me you're scared of being gay.
Nate:
That makes no sense
@@lesliejohnson-nelson4003he doesnt want to like anything that could be remotely related to being masculine because hes scared of being gay
@@lesliejohnson-nelson4003 If it doesn't make sense, then why does he need to avoid all those things he considers masculine or for men, literally the point of that character is to show toxic masculinity that represses men who then repress other men, like nate's dad (a gay man repressed by his dad to be as masculine and straight as possible) repressed nate, he is literally a man who needs to reinforce and assert his masculinity every chance he gets (especially in front of other men) because he is scared to explore his own sexuality and turn out to be gay. That's literally what Nate represents in his series lol.
@@anttandme6025I was "dating" a Nate in real life and it's exactly like you're saying it lol
@@lesliejohnson-nelson4003isn't it obvious enough? 😂😂😂
Nate would absolutely fucking despise me
Basically he wants jules
That’s why he’s gay
LOL I CAN'T -
Nate are you gay or serious?
doubt anyone would want him with that personality be it a guy or a girl or whoever else
Just because you're gay, it doesn't mean you have no taste in love. Even gay man doesn't want to date a guy like him, and it doesn't matter if you're straight or gay 😭😭
There's nothing bad about loving same genders.
That doesn't make him gay. He is not obligated to like every type of woman there is, he is gay but not because of that.
You should have standards for men too. Handsome guys are on another level.
he perfectly curated his preferences in a way that it wouldn’t make him seem different. he took any sign of masculinity out and made sure the girls were ad feminine as possible. that way nobody could ever even insinuate that he was gay.😭😭
EDIT:guys this comment isn’t that deep i just was over analyzing this scene the other day it’s just for fun😭😭 but love the lil debate in the replies
FRRRRR 💀💀💀
Gayyyy
I dont think thats the case at all. I have a theory. Nate couldve been molested or abused as a child (possibly from an uncle, etc) hence his insane behavior, mental disorders, extreme reaction to his father and general aversion to anything masculine.
@@xitzbit926or he was just a closeted gay dude, all of them are misogynistics and always thinking about impossible standards for us, I have some experience with that lol
@@lamusa2013tbh there’s no reason both statements can’t be true. He could have very well been taken advantage of as a child by an older male. Which could have led to him growing up to be misogynistic, egotistical and struggle with his sexuality
Guys always remember to hate the characters but not the people because the characters Nate is hated by everyone due to the wonderful performance if Jacob never played so good that character would never have been hated so hats off to the actor ❤ never spread hate to the actor
THIS MF REALLY WANTED A WATTPAD Y/N
He loves all the most stereotypically feminine stuff but hates the things that could in any way be seen as masculine (ex. Dress shoes, body hair) even when they are on girls. It’s good writing hinting at the underlying issue pretty early on.
Those tapes REALLY fucked him up
it says he likes dress shoes lol and body hair isn’t seen as masculine to any normal person
@@arolamichellenah she literally said “he hates sneakers AND dress shoes”. And body hair definitely isn’t a masculine thing (everyone has it lol) but it’s viewed that way by society hence why there’s so many ads products and procedures for hair removal (which is usually targeted towards women).
@@arolamichellebody hair is definitely seen as masculine by most people lol. part of that is because men have significantly more body hair and it grows faster and thicker compared to women, part of it is societal.
Cuz I caught how Rue is only saying that he HATES it, not that he's not attracted to that stuff. I'm trans and was in denial for a while and I hated body hair and avoided anything that would define my muscles and I realized it was because I was afraid of anyone thinking I was a guy cuz I felt like one and that was terrifying.
how does Rue know all of this 😭💀
lol the actual question
I’ve been thinking this the whole show 😭
She's the narrator of the show, we see everything through her eyes
@@sophierescigno5064 ik lol but i just think its funny, even if she wasn’t the narrator, it would be really bizarre if she knew all of this
In my opinion I think she overheard it from the girls Nate used to date, especially from maddie. Rue seems to be the school chameleon, she's chill with everyone, and everyone is chill with her, and she was kinda friends with maddie, and the other girls at some point of their life. So she probably learned it it from them. Now the real question is, how does she know about Nate's dad's whole gay backstory, I wanna know that, cuz I sure as hell know Nate's family would never expose themselves that way.
“He hates body hair”
Time to buy enough human hair wigs to make a giant onesie
Nate's preference is *MEN*
his perfect girl is literally jules 😭
Fr she was all thoses
Jules needs therapy then she can actually fall in love fr and realise what type of men she truly prefers.
Otherwise ppl u think u fall for are just your unhealthy brain choosing whose bad but familiar and makes u feel u need him/her. Those feelings aren't u falling for them, u ain't in love.
Jules didn’t have a small nose
Nah maddy
Shame jules ain't no girl
I hope Nate also likes being single 💀
he lowkey described jules
almost the small nose part doesn't fit, she has a cute nose but its not small.
@@peachyk7554 although he had a crush on her
@@peachyk7554same thoughts on the nose
Jules is a man pretending to be a woman
@@Someone-qi1rr 🤣🤣🤣
He hate me fr.
Guys. Nate likes guys.
bro just described how low-key toxic he actually is
how is that toxic?
@@Candice373if you'd watched the video properly, you wouldn't be asking me so ! :)
@@simp4lili there is a way to properly watch a video?
@@simp4lili ?
Fr
how tf do u be human and hairless 💀
cancer
@@rebelfriend42yearsago34 valid
Shaving
alopecia
Laser hair removal?
Pov: Gamer boy making his gamer gf in those Dress up games
So he actually likes to stay single for the rest of his life.
God i laughed so hard after watching this 😂 Nate doesn't want an actual human girlfriend, he wants an Anime character girl..... He's not a red flag, he is the epitome of boy you should avoid your whole life 🤣
😂😂😂
Ong tho 😂😂
So he liked mannequins that could walk and talk a little😂
I'm screaming 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
"I want a girl/guy with a nice personality"
*proceeds to describe a person from a magazine cover*
the caption says "potato cankles" instead of "hated cankles" 💀
*pats head* That’s nice, kid.
So true!
My guy has a dress code for his girlfriends
It’s called preferences and standards.
imagine he found a girl that fit all these preferences and, oh no.. gee whilickers, she grows body hair☠️☠️
GEE WHILICKERS HAHAHA
Okay why did that make so much sense tho
I don’t want to date Nate in a million years.
You know you're doing something right when you realize you would be the opposite of Nate Jacobs type
And still getting no bitches, unlike Nate Jacobs
So what if theres a girl that fits his criteria? Maybe there is a very femenine girl and that fine too
@@UniCornisssshut up
@@UniCornisssYes but girls just don't want Nate 🤭
You mean a man?
Guys, for those of us who haven't read the lesbian masterdoc, essentially it covers what some women do to cover up their attraction to girls and their lack of it when it comes to men. That's what Nate is doing here. He is making a checklist of things he needs to be attracted to in order to be called heterosexual. I don't know if it's what was intended, but it really seems that way considering Nate's character of see-sawing between gay and straight. I think it's because of his dad that he's tried to make himself as straight as possible through stereotypes
Yeah, definitely
This also decribes those terminally online redpillers 😂
you know that lesbian masterdoc author came out as bisexual?
@@jamie9063 well it helped me come out as lesbian and several other ppl so i guess it worked anyhow lol
The lesbian masterdoc lowkey sucks tho. It erases bi and aroace people.
meanwhile me wondering how did rue know all this😂
He hates everything about me then 😹
Our bro nate knows so much about girls-wear sometime i feel like he’s secretly hiding in closet
He is didn’t you watch the show Maddie found d pics in his phone
@@MadisonHyland-lq5vk holy fak yess.. I forgot lol. 💀🤦🏻♀️
Everything makes sense now
Universe aligned 💀🤌🏻
Taking notes of all these so i can do the exact opposite
I hope he likes being single
How to repulse a guy like Nate. Very useful.
And then,
Camera pans to him having missing teeth and missing toenails smelling like expired cat food 😂😂
And, on a more realistic note, doesn't know how to wash his ass properly, considers stepping into a cloud of axe bodyspray a shower, is a big fan of Andrew Tate, complains about women being whores but ALSO complains about being rejected sexually, and has no clue on how to warm up a can of soup XD
Have you not watched euphoria ?
lmao most people haven't, we've just seen clips here and there
@@user-og1mr7jz9babsolutely, tried to watch one, lost like 20 IQ points
Why you smellin expired cat food tho…?
He sounds like almost every love interest in a wattpad story
He’s the guy that girls are afraid of, not in a scared way but in a way that is just like I don’t wanna be near you.
Bro called out all my insecurity in all 1000 languages💀
You know you’re doing something right when Nate wouldn’t like you