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  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 9 дней назад +55

    11:11 Good Place To 🗿

  • @redhotdogs3193
    @redhotdogs3193 9 дней назад +29

    cant we just use rational root theorem on f(epsilon)=0 and the fact that 0

    • @bot24032
      @bot24032 9 дней назад +10

      basically what penn did tbf

    • @franksaved3893
      @franksaved3893 9 дней назад +9

      A 5 minute video would have been too short 😂

  • @erfanmohagheghian707
    @erfanmohagheghian707 9 дней назад +9

    if you just clear the denominators by multiplying thru by b^3, you can conclude that b divides a^3.

  • @georgedoran9299
    @georgedoran9299 9 дней назад +5

    Quite a nice feature of the solution is that it turns out that ε(n) associated to a given n is always greater than ε(n+1).

  • @CTJ2619
    @CTJ2619 9 дней назад +6

    Floor functions - a MP Favorite

  • @CM63_France
    @CM63_France 9 дней назад +5

    Hi,
    11:12 : missing "to stop".

  • @krisbrandenberger544
    @krisbrandenberger544 9 дней назад +7

    @ 9:39 Should be -nab^2.

  • @FranzBiscuit
    @FranzBiscuit 9 дней назад +2

    Masterfully done, Sir! The substitutions are downright brilliant, without them I think the proof would have been MUCH more complicated. 👍

  • @3141minecraft
    @3141minecraft 9 дней назад +8

    "All solutions are irrational" part is not correct.
    Correct statement should be "All solutions except x=0 is irrational"

    • @samwalko
      @samwalko 4 дня назад

      If you take natural numbers to exclude 0, which I believe he typically does, it works.

    • @samwalko
      @samwalko 4 дня назад +1

      Actually, this brought me to a bit of a thought: He writes r=n+a/b, but then doesn't really justify why a is not 0. In the n=0 case, of course it *is* 0, but maybe there should have been a step to show that it isn't otherwise.

  • @DrR0BERT
    @DrR0BERT 7 дней назад

    At 7:38, why not multiply both sides by b^2? Then after observing that all the terms except for a^3/b are integers. So a^3/b = m, some integer. With (a,b)=1, then b must equal 1 contradicting the b>1 assumption.

  • @aadfg0
    @aadfg0 8 дней назад

    Faster: Noting (x^3 + x)/(x^2 + 1) = x, rewrite as x = floor(x) + x/(x^2+1) -> frac(x) = x/(x^2+1) (*), which solves part a.
    Part b: If x = p/q with p = aq+b, gcd(p, q) = 1, plug into (*) to get b(p^2+q^2) = pq^2 -> p, q^2 | b. Set b = pq^2 n -> n(p^2+q^2) = 1 -> n = 1, {p, q} = {0, 1} -> only solution is x = 0.

  • @roberttelarket4934
    @roberttelarket4934 9 дней назад +1

    A good place to start with the first step of the floor function!

  • @hassanalihusseini1717
    @hassanalihusseini1717 8 дней назад

    Nice video as always. But at around 9:30 I had to take a nab...

  • @jmafoko
    @jmafoko 8 дней назад

    Sometimes I wish you could give pointers why such seemly mundane equation could appear in advanced math, which is why we are following in the first place.

  • @Sordorack
    @Sordorack 9 дней назад +6

    at ~ 4:57 you say epsilon cant be 0, but shouldnt it be 0 for n=0 since thats an obvious solution to the equation?
    EDIT: okay i think 0 is not included in the natural numbers here by the fact that 0 is indeed rational ^^

    • @Bodyknock
      @Bodyknock 9 дней назад +5

      Yeah, he didn't explicitly say 0 isn't included in his definition of the Natural Numbers in this problem but the irrationality statement fails for x in [0,1)

  • @Alan-zf2tt
    @Alan-zf2tt 9 дней назад +1

    Excellent! Math is always easy

  • @skylardeslypere9909
    @skylardeslypere9909 9 дней назад +4

    x = 0 is a solution though!

    • @fredfred9847
      @fredfred9847 9 дней назад +1

      n is a natural number, not an integer

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 9 дней назад +2

      @@fredfred9847 natural/integer aside (for me 0 is a natural number), by the requirement that b > a >= 1 we still exclude integers. Not every solution is irrational, because x=0 is a rational solution

    • @topilinkala1594
      @topilinkala1594 9 дней назад +1

      @@skylardeslypere9909 Positive integers are not natural numbers. Eg. first natural number is 0. There might be a bizzare Peono arithmetic with axiom that 1 is a natural number, but I've never seen one. It's always 0 is a natural number.

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 8 дней назад +1

      @@topilinkala1594 Wait what are you saying? That 1,2,3,... are not natural numbers? Only 0? The natural numbers are always either the set {0,1,...} or the set {1,2,...} but never just the number 0. Am I misinterpreting your comment?

    • @KeimoKissa
      @KeimoKissa 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@topilinkala1594the natural numbers are just a convenient definition for certain numbers. There's no 'axiom' defining a number to be natural. Definitions and axioms are different things.

  • @MichaelRothwell1
    @MichaelRothwell1 8 дней назад

    Nice problem, but I was disappointed by number of things. In the first part, Michael didn't properly justify the existence of a zero of f in [0,1[ (f is continuous as it is a polynomial and so the zero exists by the intermediate value theorem). In the second part, the question is not clear: it should say "Show that there are no rational solutions for x≥1" (this is how Michael interpreted the question, and this must be correct as x=0 is a rational solution). Also Michael should have mentioned that we can exclude the case a/b=0, from work done in the first part. Finally, it would have been much clearer and cleaner to quote the rational root theorem, instead of giving a rather sketchy proof of it. At the very least, he should have mentioned the theorem and that he was proving it in this particular case.

    • @jmafoko
      @jmafoko 8 дней назад

      he proved the theorem for (0,1), and assumed by extension can be proved for for (n,n+1), maybe as exercise!

  • @dominiquecolin4716
    @dominiquecolin4716 7 дней назад

    nice proof...