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  • @polyMATHY_Luke
    @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад +58

    Can Davide Gemello speak Latin? Let's test his knowledge! Subscibe to his channel at ruclips.net/user/PodcastItaliano Make sure subtitles are turned on!
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    • @Andominicus
      @Andominicus 2 года назад +5

      Your channel is amazing dude, keep up the good work

    • @4less4ndR0
      @4less4ndR0 2 года назад

      Why you don’t read the dittongo ? And said Romae and Rome? Thanks

    • @massimobernardo-
      @massimobernardo- 2 года назад

      Gemello twin geminae

    • @arelendil7
      @arelendil7 2 года назад +1

      It was so interesting, guys! Thank you for this! I wish we could all speak Latin as easily as Luke, it is so beautiful to hear him! I am Spanish and I speak also English, French, some German, and I am currently learning Italian (I follow Davide’s channel). Sadly, I have studied only 1 year of Latin in high school, but I really loved it. Unfortunately we had to learn everything by memory, because it is difficult and it was only the basics. I usually nailed it and people asked me how I could memorize everything. The truth is that I made songs with the declinations and the verbs and I imagined a different journey, ( as it was a music video visiting a village, a countryside, etc.), then each part had a particular place and a sound associated. I still remember some parts! While living abroad it was a bit frustrating to speak English with people whose maternal language was a Romance one, so we sometimes spoke our own language and try to understand each other. It was fun to check how much we could understand and at the end I am trying to learn them all! Latin is definitely on my list! I enjoy so much this channel :) ! And I agree that Rome is a wonderful city! I have read and study so much about its history, that the first time I went to the Forum it was like a Disneyland for me, I saw it living in my head and I didn’t want to leave! I wish I could live there one day.

    • @JoulesPerRadian
      @JoulesPerRadian 2 года назад

      @@arelendil7 That's a cool memorization technique! It sounds sort of similar to the "memory palace" technique Giordano Bruno used.

  • @koreboredom4302
    @koreboredom4302 2 года назад +1181

    Why don't you do a prank where you walk out of somewhere in ancient robes and slippers and act all confused as if you've time traveled?

  • @SirMikeSelf
    @SirMikeSelf 2 года назад +13

    My experience went the other way around - can a Latin speaker understand Italian?
    Being a native Slovak speaker, at the age of 18 I had some negligible knowledge of basic Spanish when I got into medical school. I went through a 1-year course of medical Latin, which is actually not aimed at being able to have a conversation, but rather just understanding medical terminology. It was also highly mixed with ancient Greek because medical terminology uses a kind of mixture of both. A year later, I traveled to Italy for the first time, listening to the local radio stations in the car, and I was able to understand most of what they were saying. I was quite surprised by that.

  • @michaelzedd6492
    @michaelzedd6492 2 года назад +20

    Davide speaking English with a spot on American accent lol

  • @garmit61
    @garmit61 2 года назад +4

    I really enjoyed this experiment. I know some Italian, more French and less Spanish and next to zero Latin, but it was really interesting watching you fathom out how to communicate together. Humanity doing what it’s done for centuries and working out how to socialise.

  • @truthpopup
    @truthpopup Год назад +3

    This is remarkable, because it would be difficult for a speaker of English to understand Middle English, as it was spoken from 1150 to 1470.

  • @mattiacarvetta
    @mattiacarvetta 2 года назад +5

    Grazie, Luke, per questo splendido video ed esperimento. Io stesso sto studiando il latino attraverso il metodo Dowling (grazie al tuo video!) e presto comincerò LLPSI. Nel frattempo cerco di abituarmi il più possibile al latino scritto e orale, quindi questo tipo di video è l'ideale. Inoltre, la tua precisione nella pronuncia e la ricchezza del tuo vocabolario sono una risorsa incredibile. Grazie mille, spero di poter ascoltare molti altri video simili mentre parli finanche del più e del meno, purché in latino! 😂

  • @sophialoren7855
    @sophialoren7855 2 года назад +45

    "can a law student understand Latin?"

    • @fanaticofmetal
      @fanaticofmetal 2 года назад +4

      Quite possibly

    • @tylere.8436
      @tylere.8436 2 года назад +1

      If well versed in the legal phrases and the Justinian Code, most definitely I'd imagine.

  • @pmiller7886
    @pmiller7886 2 года назад +1

    Fascinating to read the subtitles and listen as Latin similarities to English leap out at me. Love this!

  • @HeWhoComments
    @HeWhoComments 2 года назад +4

    With absolutely no training, I was able to understand a little bit of the Latin spoken without subtitles but it’s definitely very different from Spanish. I love the way it’s spoken!

  • @hookepitaph
    @hookepitaph 2 года назад +6

    Me, an italian watching an American and an Italian speaking Latin while I'm doing my ancient Greek homework: Aρχé

  • @Doucas1349
    @Doucas1349 2 года назад +8

    I’m Italian and I‘ve understood all

    • @investmentgammler4550
      @investmentgammler4550 2 года назад +1

      Sono tedesco, ed anch'io ho capito tutto :-)

    • @Doucas1349
      @Doucas1349 2 года назад

      @@investmentgammler4550 ma cos’hai capito hahahah? Con questo voglio dire che il latino non è tanto diverso dall’italiano, e poi un italiano o uno studente straniero che ha imparato l’italiano lo capirebbe senza doversi studiare un intero vocabolario di latino

  • @joligej
    @joligej 2 года назад +6

    @polýMATHY Luke, have you ever considered doing talks and lectures about how it's important to study Latin in the way you encourage everyone to, which is trying to comprehend the language and to get some degree of fluency in speaking it, instead of putting every single sentence through the lens of translation? In the country I live in, for instance (the Netherlands), Latin is only taught as an extra subject in the Dutch equivalent of middle and high school (and even then only when you're doing the highest level of education). Most people that aren't already interested in learning Latin this way won't find themselves getting recommendations for your videos on their home feed. Perhaps giving talks internationally will spark a bit of interest in some people or lead them to the conclusion that the translatory method isn't the best way to study Latin. I would love to hear how you feel about that.

  • @hephaestus198
    @hephaestus198 2 года назад +6

    Enjoying much this conversation, Latin is fantastic
    please visit Latin America, i would love to see Mexicans, Brazilians, Cubans, Argentinians, etc trying Latin ! ! !

  • @Galenus1234
    @Galenus1234 2 года назад +6

    One carthaginian disliked this video.

  • @MusaPedestris
    @MusaPedestris 2 года назад +2

    Macteee! Nesciebam Davidem latinam linguam discere atque etiam loqui posse. Laudo! Atque ego aliquid didici: nesciebam usurpari posse verbum "patria" pro "terra"! Luci, quomodo Amatricianam non nosti!! :-D Delicatissima est, gustes suadeo! Sed Carbonariam nusquam meliorem edi quam apud Stephanum. Et mihi placet retinere verba cuiusdam ciborum in lingua originali, e.g. semper pastam dicimus. Et: GRATIAS, quod canalem meum in initio nominasti!! :-)

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад +2

      Certē tē laudāvī! ut semper! 😃

    • @MusaPedestris
      @MusaPedestris 2 года назад +1

      @@polyMATHY_Luke Et ego te! Invicem igitur laudamur 😀

  • @abelpalmer552
    @abelpalmer552 2 года назад +1

    Cum audīrem tantum neque spectārem, valdē difficile erat mihi vōcēs vestrās dīnōscere, nesciō quā dē causā.

  • @GiulioPiccinno
    @GiulioPiccinno 2 года назад

    Thank you Luke and Davide for this video, it was nice watching you speak Latin among clueless people 😆 I wondered what Luke thinks of Davide's pronunciation though, as to my Italian ears it feels like a very natural (despite unusual, being classical) Latin pronunciation, especially considering vowels which don't get as much length or "quantity" as Luke's despite retaining their clear and correct (mostly? I guess?) sound. This makes me think about all the different regional takes on Italian pronunciation, where vowels are opened or closed depending mostly of latitude but also other factors, and these speakers may still be recognised as proper Italian speakers. Was it the same for italic peoples when they took Latin as their language?

  • @TheOnyomiMaster
    @TheOnyomiMaster 2 года назад +1

    Oooh! "Mihi placet __" sounds like "Mi piace __" in Italian.
    Having only studied Latin cursorily (using Wikipedia and Wiktionary), I'm surprised at how much of the spoken Latin I actually understand - I've taken Italian and Spanish so that's probably why.

  • @alvarobus
    @alvarobus Год назад +1

    im from italy and i understand latin

  • @fryke
    @fryke 2 года назад

    Had to lol at "Barbarus sonus". ;) ... He just took the Italian "sono" and replaced the "o" with an "us", because he had to do that with substantives. ("Barbarus sum" was what he meant to say.) It's a lovely conversation.

    • @sameash3153
      @sameash3153 2 года назад +1

      No he meant to say barbarus sonus, as in, "barbaric sound", he was describing the way a word sounded. If he didn't know the Latin word and was converting from Italian, he probably would have said suonus, from Italian suono, but it sounds like he was already familiar with the word.

    • @fryke
      @fryke 2 года назад

      @@sameash3153 ok

  • @BebbellaChaves1
    @BebbellaChaves1 2 года назад +1

    Io adoro sto ragazzooooo

  • @toniocartonio1866
    @toniocartonio1866 Год назад +2

    Dovrebbero darti la cittadinanza onoraria di Roma!

  • @stefanoserra3861
    @stefanoserra3861 2 года назад

    a well educated italian with a good basis on Latin and studing for at least a couple of years maybe yes

  • @pleple716
    @pleple716 2 года назад

    More than 20 years ago, the ultra-conservative Colombian government had catholic classes instituted in all public schools. The priests taught us basic Latin language, religion and the lifestyle of the Romans back then. I found that class pointless but so many years later, I can understand these guys pretty well !!! …Is interesting how our minds catch the information better when you’re younger, even if you were not paying attention. 😊😊😊

  • @irinabosco
    @irinabosco 2 года назад

    che braviiii bello, non so niente di latino ma ho potuto capire abbastanza

  • @MasterAlucardGV
    @MasterAlucardGV 2 года назад

    my father asked about the pronunciation of the word "placet", he remembers from his old studies that it's with the soft C and in this video you say it with the hard C, kind of like "plachet". what's your opinion luke?

    • @Brandon55638
      @Brandon55638 3 месяца назад +1

      That's the restored Classical or Ancient Roman pronunciation. Both C and G were likely hard consonants in front of all the vowels.

  • @4hoursleep571
    @4hoursleep571 2 года назад

    When they speak it keeps reminding me of Centurion from For Honor and I imagine these guys are just retired Centurions talking about their days in the army of Rome

  • @ericksangermano
    @ericksangermano 2 года назад

    I am italian and I think thst I know only fifteen or twenty words il latin

  • @PodcastItaliano
    @PodcastItaliano 2 года назад +420

    It was a pleasure to make (yet) another video with you, Luke! Clearly my Latin needs some improvement. Howver, it was fascinating for me to realize I can understand you with little difficulty, which means I've had enough comprehensible input (mostly coming from you and Familia Romana haha), and yet - as it's often in the case when one's learning a foreign language - my speaking is pretty bad. In order to speak well you need to speak a lot, as we all know, and in that regard Latin is just like any language!

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад +47

      I think you’re at an excellent stage. It was great to showcase to people who far Familia Romana can take them. Grātiās!

    • @MusaPedestris
      @MusaPedestris 2 года назад +12

      Immo, laudo te, Davide! Scilicet multum loqui necesse est ut quamcumque linguam discas, sed iam, ut Lucius dicit, bonum gradum es adeptus! Nesciebam te omnino linguam latinam discere. Gaudeo :-)

    • @filipporubino4163
      @filipporubino4163 2 года назад +7

      I studied Latin (the Italian way, only through texts) for 5 years in High School (liceo linguistico) but I'm proud to say I was able to understand your conversation pretty easily. I've watched most of Luke's videos, so I can say I'm accustomed to his way of speaking Latin (sooo clear), but that's the only "training" I recently had. In terms of speaking it myself, I would've had even more difficulties than you with grammar, but at least I would have been able to communicate a bit, somehow.

    • @filipporubino4163
      @filipporubino4163 2 года назад +1

      @Omar beh la mia prof era molto severa, quindi negli anni qualcosa mi è rimasto, come anche un certo interesse che, unito a una predisposizione di base per le lingue, fa sì che mi ricordi molte cose. Ma non dico di poterlo usare bene, solo di potermela cavare (forse).

    • @jpdj2715
      @jpdj2715 Год назад +2

      In English "Grammar School" (called, generally, gymnasium in the continent - secondary school) the boys have this rhyme:
      Latin is dead
      As dead as it can be
      It killed the ancient Romans
      And now it's killing me
      (Limerick metre)

  • @joligej
    @joligej 2 года назад

    @polýMATHY Luke, have you ever considered doing talks and lectures about how it's important to study Latin in the way you encourage everyone to, which is trying to comprehend the language and to get some degree of fluency in speaking it, instead of putting every single sentence through the lens of translation? In the country I live in, for instance (the Netherlands), Latin is only taught as an extra subject in the Dutch equivalent of middle and high school (and even then only when you're doing the highest level of education). Most people that aren't already interested in learning Latin this way won't find themselves getting recommendations for your videos on their home feed. Perhaps giving talks internationally will spark a bit of interest in some people or lead them to the conclusion that the translatory method isn't the best way to study Latin. I would love to hear how you feel about that.

  • @Spvrinnaeli
    @Spvrinnaeli 2 года назад +453

    Every single one of my Italian tutors is about to watch this video and get angry, they've all expressed to me the frustration at studying Latin for X amount of years and not being able to construct a single sentence. It really speaks to the efficacy of LLPSI (as well as Davide's outstanding linguistic capacity!)

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад +164

      That's because most "learning" of Latin in Italy is just translation. Translation doesn't teach intuitive language acquisition skills, and is an obstacle to it.

    • @albizabm
      @albizabm 2 года назад +12

      @@polyMATHY_Luke Vero!Quel poco che riesco a comprendere,più che altro lo intuisco

    • @CrazyChickenFarmer
      @CrazyChickenFarmer 2 года назад +25

      @@polyMATHY_Luke Pretty much all the schools and universities in europe teach latin like that. I am going through the same thing right now and putting in extra effort in order to learn latin like a living language and speak and hear as much of it as I can

    • @DaveKahn
      @DaveKahn 2 года назад +23

      ​@@polyMATHY_Luke I get the impression from following academic classicists that many of them regard the idea of teaching converstional Latin as something of a distraction from the subject. I suspect at least part of the reason is that not many of them actually have fluent Latin.
      The thing is that studying the literature is both easier and more enjoyable when you can actually speak the language at least to a limited extent. I remember at school being tortured by the difficulties of the Aeneid. It didn't help that the concept of vowel length was only introduced at the beginning of the third year as something we would need to know about to be able to scan poetry. So for the first two years of school Latin we were taught to mispronounce almost everything.
      It was only decades later when I decided to relearn my almost forgotten Latin purely as a hobby, and eventually tackled Virgil again, that I discovered for myself how wonderful his poetry is and what an unparalleled genius he was.
      Davide did really well by the way. It's not easy being thrown in at the deep end like that.

    • @harrypottersnumbrfan
      @harrypottersnumbrfan 2 года назад +2

      @@CrazyChickenFarmer if you havent already check out "getting started with Latin" it is a book written specifically for homeschool and self taught latin. The author William Linney also has a website and youtube page and an app for doing drill's. The RUclips page has Classical and ecclesiastical pronounciation as well as more advanced lessons with homework and reading lists for when you finish the book.

  • @PhilipLeFou
    @PhilipLeFou 2 года назад +350

    When Davide said, “I’m a lazy learner.” I thought oh he’s one us. He’s just a normal, real person.

    • @PodcastItaliano
      @PodcastItaliano 2 года назад +26

      Oh yeah, totally

    • @RedRabbit1983
      @RedRabbit1983 2 года назад +8

      I don't think there's anything with his method - he has done very well for someone who has just read Familia Romana.
      Sometimes the lazy method is the best one.

    • @gaaraati
      @gaaraati 2 года назад +5

      @@PodcastItaliano the lazy method can really be the best for some of us who want to learn in a slow organic manner, kinda like how you would expect children to learn (at a much slower rate, that is).
      I speak 7 languages to varying degrees and active learning has helped me only in a couple of ways, mostly just to clear some things up that annoyed me. (Read that as: things my brain would just never get right, without some linguistics read-ups on the topic).
      Also, that said I am a linguist by profession so my methods might not resemble that of someone who is not interested in my field of studies.

    • @Nicholas.T
      @Nicholas.T 2 года назад +3

      Davide may be a “lazy learner”, but man o man, his English is impressive!!!
      For a native Italian, he is 100% fluent in English, with a “perfect” American accent!

    • @TheArrowedKnee
      @TheArrowedKnee Год назад

      @@Nicholas.T Absolutely he has a great english accent.

  • @MRHEY
    @MRHEY 2 года назад +246

    You should do "Can italian students from liceo classico understand spoken latin?" (I am one)

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад +97

      This is in the works

    • @redivivo
      @redivivo 2 года назад +9

      Ci ho pensato pure io, sarebbe interessante fare un meeting online, ma non so se Luke ne sarebbe disposto...

    • @Bolognabeef
      @Bolognabeef 2 года назад +1

      @@polyMATHY_Luke niceee

    • @bartoszwojciechowski2270
      @bartoszwojciechowski2270 2 года назад +6

      Well, it's easier to understand a language than to speak it as we all have a better passive than active understanding of a language. It would be more interesting to see if they can speak it, maybe write in it, generally use it actively.

    • @danyf.1442
      @danyf.1442 2 года назад +1

      @@polyMATHY_Luke yeyyy🙌 but after that....a latin verb conjugations test for you😂😜😜😜

  • @juliusfucik4011
    @juliusfucik4011 Год назад +40

    My favorite Latin teacher told me he was once on holiday somewhere far away and he met a couple, but they had no common language. Except the husband was also a Latin teacher...
    So, naturally they spoke and joked in Latin. It always amazed me.

  • @redivivo
    @redivivo 2 года назад +209

    Now do "can an italian latin student understand Latin?"

    • @stefanodadamo6809
      @stefanodadamo6809 2 года назад +14

      Most cannot.

    • @allamaadi
      @allamaadi 2 года назад +2

      The real test

    • @Ariom76
      @Ariom76 2 года назад +20

      In Italy all people study the ecclesiastical pronunciation. The firt time I heard Scorpio Matianus speaking Latin, it was very hard because I didn't recognize the words. Now I understand the 85%

    • @GiulioPiccinno
      @GiulioPiccinno 2 года назад +9

      Please do - I was a student of Latin at school (despite studying it for 8ys vs the usual 2-5) and can understand pretty much everything of what Luke says. I'm curious to know how 5th graders in the Italian liceo Classico schools handle it!

    • @stefanof9775
      @stefanof9775 2 года назад +5

      I'm an Italian Latin student and I cannot

  • @brwi1
    @brwi1 2 года назад +95

    Dudes got a perfect American accent

    • @amiwho3464
      @amiwho3464 2 года назад +1

      Isnt he from the US?

    • @mattthelearner2797
      @mattthelearner2797 2 года назад +28

      @@amiwho3464 Nope he is a pure italian

    • @amiwho3464
      @amiwho3464 2 года назад +5

      @@mattthelearner2797 Wow thats crazy

    • @bigyokes4747
      @bigyokes4747 2 года назад +19

      I thought he was just gay, but thanks for explaining that it’s the american accent

    • @amiwho3464
      @amiwho3464 2 года назад +1

      @@bigyokes4747 Where are u from then?

  • @ForgottenHeroes
    @ForgottenHeroes 2 года назад +4

    Super! Will you make "Speaking Ancient Greek" to modern Greeks?

    • @Glossologia
      @Glossologia 2 года назад

      I think he plans to eventually, but it might be a while haha.

  • @neverno4489
    @neverno4489 2 года назад +36

    Una grande differenza fra questa conversazione e diversi testi dell’antichità, e che qui capiamo subito quali sono gli argomenti trattati e possiamo seguire il filo del discorso. Mentre in diversi testi antichi, si tratta di eventi politici o culturali dell’epoca, con allusioni che non conosciamo a pieno e quindi più difficile capire dove vanno a parare.

    • @latioselatias
      @latioselatias 2 года назад +6

      Aggiungerei: questa è una conversazione, quelli sono testi.
      Ci sono sempre delle differenze tra orale e scritto.

  • @christophera.6627
    @christophera.6627 2 года назад +17

    Minchia davide parla benissimo inglese

    • @BrandonBoardman
      @BrandonBoardman Месяц назад

      Come americano, sono molto sorpreso che l'accento di Davide sia molto simile al mio.

  • @janstozek4850
    @janstozek4850 2 года назад +66

    It reminded me an old family story about my grandma's Latin teacher, who brought his son to the Latin class in the medical university, and they started a regular conversation in Latin. The students immediately decided that they must have been freaks and lunatics, because normally they had worked with the classical texts only and never treated Latin a spoken language.

    • @Spaistraveler
      @Spaistraveler 2 года назад +7

      Many people think that innovation isn't good to study old stuff. Not very smart.

    • @rubyvampiredean.
      @rubyvampiredean. 2 года назад +1

      Are you Latin teacher, too?

  • @MrRiffMusic
    @MrRiffMusic 2 года назад +45

    Awesome video. I speak Italian reasonably well now. Latin is the next language I want to learn. 😊

  • @cosimoalbaster
    @cosimoalbaster 2 года назад +16

    As a Romanian it bothers me how close I am to understanding spoken latin.
    It's like I understand 60% of the words, but the meaning sometimes gets mixed up.
    There were a few times there where I understand whole sentences without any issue then some voodoo latin grammar enters the ring and i'm lost. lol

    • @Latro84
      @Latro84 2 года назад +2

      Yeah because 40% of ypur language are Serbian

    • @cosimoalbaster
      @cosimoalbaster 2 года назад +4

      @@Latro84 It's not & you should go study both Serbian & Romanian.

    • @cosmina.m.7570
      @cosmina.m.7570 2 года назад +1

      @@Latro84 🤣🤣🤣 some of you are just sick!

  • @valbertonviana3543
    @valbertonviana3543 2 года назад +68

    I'm Brazilian, but I can understand a few things in Latin, the power of this language is amazing!

    • @lais9671
      @lais9671 2 года назад +3

      Brasileiro no canal do Luke 😃

    • @valbertonviana3543
      @valbertonviana3543 2 года назад +4

      @@lais9671 adoro o canal dele, descobri por acaso enquanto tava procurando como estudar Latin vi aquele vídeo que ele pede informação em Roma

    • @lais9671
      @lais9671 2 года назад +2

      @@valbertonviana3543 eu descobri o canal dele em um video que o título era se os italianos podem entender latim.

    • @lais9671
      @lais9671 2 года назад +3

      Aí eu fico pensando, quem fala latim nos dias de hj? foi aí que é ele.

    • @valbertonviana3543
      @valbertonviana3543 2 года назад +1

      @@lais9671 viemos pelo mesmo vídeo aparentemente e simplesmente me apaixonei pelo canal, eu amo línguas e o latin é a próxima que quero dominar, viu aquele rolê dele em Pompéia? É a minha meta!

  • @MRHEY
    @MRHEY 2 года назад +23

    -Senatus
    +Senaatus
    -Senatus
    +Senaaatus
    -Recte

    • @Brandon55638
      @Brandon55638 3 месяца назад

      😂😂😂
      Hai ragione. Lunghe e corte vocali sono un essenziale parte del latino.

  • @guillermorivas7819
    @guillermorivas7819 2 года назад +31

    The book's title itself is the same as it would be in Spanish -- i.e., familia romana. I understood the gist of the spoken Latin from what was being discussed. I have listened to Davide speak Italian also, he is the most understandable of them all to a Spanish speaker.

  • @MrRiffMusic
    @MrRiffMusic 2 года назад +18

    Awesome video. I speak Italian reasonably well now. Latin is the next language I want to learn. 😊

  • @michaelhoffmann2891
    @michaelhoffmann2891 2 года назад +15

    Wow, this brings back memories to our Italy trip in 2013. I speak no Italian, but had Latin in high school. Dragging out what I learned backed then I was amazed that people understood my "pidgin Latin" - and my wife was jealous. 😆

  • @AuxxiliaryATC
    @AuxxiliaryATC 2 года назад +16

    I liked seeing Davide somewhat uncomfortable with a language! I listen to his podcast and watch his videos for my Italian journey. Hes very confident and comfortable all the time, so seeing this face expression was new (in a good way). You guys are awesome, thank you.

  • @Napoleon40000
    @Napoleon40000 2 года назад +9

    Luca, your next challenge to walk around speaking Latin in ROMANIA 😀

    • @empyrionin
      @empyrionin 2 года назад +6

      Will be disastrous. :)
      There will be some amount of frustration because a lot of people will feel they are about to understand something but they realize they don't.

    • @italuswikiano1191
      @italuswikiano1191 2 года назад +7

      Semper potest ambulare in Via Veneto ut inveniat uxorem. (No! God forbid.)

  • @sikViduser
    @sikViduser 2 года назад +11

    As a Spanish speaker the more I listen to you speak the more I can understand. I think I understood about 80% of your conversation.

    • @jedricklayola3547
      @jedricklayola3547 2 года назад +1

      Amm I really want to speak in Spanish I am a Filipino can we be fb friend and then you teach me how to speak your language plsss...

    • @nicoladc89
      @nicoladc89 8 месяцев назад

      The problem is the other 20%

    • @KobeSande
      @KobeSande 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@jedricklayola3547wenn du spanisch willst, bin ich filpino

  • @dan_leo
    @dan_leo 2 года назад +10

    Did you agree on wearing sweaters of the same color before filming this video? 😄
    Joking apart, I really enjoyed it, thank you for your experiments with Latin, Luke.
    I studied Latin at school with the ecclesiastical pronounciation (like all Italian students do) and thanks to your channel I discovered the pronuntiatio restituta. I was skeptical at first, but now I am fascinated.

    • @Glossologia
      @Glossologia 2 года назад +1

      The Italian pronunciation is of course wonderful, but the restored pronunciation is a really great tool for things like metrical texts. I think the best thing we can do as a community is be accepting of both! :D

  • @SitremChannel
    @SitremChannel 2 года назад +14

    I'm Italian and during the 5th year of highschool I used to improvise speeches in latin and to create epigram about my friends (like Marziale's) just for fun. 5/6 years later I don't remember many words or grammar rules. Practice makes it all, unfortunately..

    • @Brandon55638
      @Brandon55638 3 месяца назад

      You can improve your Latin through Luke Ranieri's Lingua Latina Comprehensibilis playlist on his channel ScorpioMartianus. All his videos are in idiomatic Latin.

  • @vladuionutcristian8666
    @vladuionutcristian8666 2 года назад +8

    I am a romanian and I can understand almost all of the words! Love your videos!

  • @65fhd4d6h5
    @65fhd4d6h5 2 года назад +10

    I was literally standing where you are standing exactly one week ago! What a shame I didn't stumble upon you guys! :P

  • @franciaespagnafuoridallepa5966
    @franciaespagnafuoridallepa5966 2 года назад +4

    Rivogliamo l'impero romano!!!! 🏺⚔️🏺

    • @starguy2718
      @starguy2718 Год назад

      Mussolini tried to do just that; he failed.

    • @BrandonBoardman
      @BrandonBoardman Месяц назад

      Il tuo commento mi fa molto ridere! 😂😂😂

  • @xotan
    @xotan 2 года назад +19

    Et ego quoque barbatus sum (haaec barba rubea est quia hibernicus/celtus sum - barbarus barbatus!.. Et David appelor. Cibus romanus mihi placet. Eheu in Gallia habito. Verumtamen Romam pergam quotiens fieri potest. Facilis est quia linguam iralicam loquor.. Stultus sum. Non 'iralicam', sed Italicam. Suavior tranquilliorque sum quam iratus.

  • @silvio5266
    @silvio5266 Год назад +2

    As an Italian who also speaks English and has never studied Latin, I quite understood what you were saying

  • @saebica
    @saebica 2 года назад +9

    I'm Romanian, I speak Aromanian and Italian and I understood almost anything.

  • @webdelpep2003
    @webdelpep2003 2 года назад +2

    Has visitat mai Catalunya ? Et proposo el repte de fer un vídeo amb alguns catalans per veure si entenen llatí i si tu entens català . Felicitats pel teu canal..😀

  • @Antoniocastagnoli
    @Antoniocastagnoli Год назад +3

    It’s interesting that you can compare words in English. For example, “Aedificium” which means “building”, but you also have the world “edifice” in English with the same meaning.

    • @SekayKFP
      @SekayKFP Год назад

      same for french and spanish

    • @canobenitez
      @canobenitez Год назад

      Edificio in spanish. Perhaps we all should learn latin

  • @silverkeystoalchemicalgold3358
    @silverkeystoalchemicalgold3358 2 года назад +8

    This is very inspiring to me. I’m a student of Sanskrit, and only this semester have I started studying Latin. I think I am also taking on the pedagogical method of repetition and translation as has been mentioned in the comment about the guy’s Italian tutors not being able to make a sentence. What reference and method is ideal for learning it in this way?

  • @BTL6666
    @BTL6666 Год назад +2

    i like the rustic latin pronunciation more the classical one///like the AE pronounced as E...or the QUE as CV and not CUE ...but it is more like a personal choice :)

  • @libatonvhs
    @libatonvhs 2 года назад +5

    I'd like to see a video of making a pizza in Latin

  • @manfredneilmann4305
    @manfredneilmann4305 2 года назад +8

    I really admire Davide's efforts to speak in Latin!

  • @ann2.0o22
    @ann2.0o22 2 года назад +1

    Io studio latino, ma il massimo che posso fare è tradurre delle versioni 💀✋

  • @JustRolly
    @JustRolly 2 года назад +6

    Familia Romana! One of the textbooks we used in my high school in the Latin class 🥰 Davide is awesome! Every video of yours is a instant liker!! 🙌🏻❤

  • @luigibolognesi9559
    @luigibolognesi9559 2 года назад +2

    Luchino sei l'insegnante di latino che ho sempre sognato ma che non mai avuto

  • @jopeteus
    @jopeteus 2 года назад +2

    If Rome didn't fall and they kept a common language, what language would they speak?

    • @BrandonBoardman
      @BrandonBoardman Месяц назад

      Latin, of course, but with a pronunciation similar to the Ecclesiastical one.

  • @potman4581
    @potman4581 2 года назад +14

    I am shocked how good David's English is.

    • @juliuscaesar7795
      @juliuscaesar7795 2 года назад

      I know right?" Not only I can hear zero Italian accent, but he also sounds American. I thought he was an Italian American

  • @stefanodadamo6809
    @stefanodadamo6809 2 года назад +2

    Sì ma vedi, Luke, non vale con chi ha studiato e da poco... Prova con un manovale in pensione con la quinta elementare per cui anche l'italiano standard è già una lingua straniera, imparata (poco e male) a scuola e poi dalla tv...!

  • @superlinux
    @superlinux 2 года назад +1

    Let me give you an idea of a video. How about speaking English but using Latin words. For example you used "consent" for "agree". Let's see how it will appear.

    • @sameash3153
      @sameash3153 2 года назад +1

      Using Latin/Romance vocabulary exclusively is not a difficult challenge, our language is approximately 50-75% Latin influenced. Even "agree" is romance based, from French "agreer", from Latin "ad gratum". Even this sentence has completely avoided Germanic terms, with the exception of grammatical necessities from English like "is", "from", "with", et cetera. Communicating in this form however will annoy people, as it sounds too pedantic.

  • @jeanpaulmurcia4436
    @jeanpaulmurcia4436 2 года назад +18

    Buenas! Yo soy nativo del español y entiendo algo de italiano y solo entendí los cognados y entendí que hablaron del coliseo y de que les gustaba de Roma y algo de spaghetti , hehehehe. Pero fue super chévere verlos! Muchas gracias por compartir!

    • @surfboarding5058
      @surfboarding5058 2 года назад +4

      Yo entiendo italiano y portugués perfectamente y latín tmb entiendo mucho si ellos me hablaran en italiano portugués o latín yo contestaría todo en español haha 😆

  • @FS-fr4lw
    @FS-fr4lw 2 года назад +4

    go to Athens and speak Ancient Greek

  • @cirocbusato
    @cirocbusato Месяц назад +1

    It's bizarre, as a native Portuguese speaker, also fluent in Italian, intermediate French, and a decent (lazy, because of Portuguese) Spanish speaker, I can understand almost everything they're saying in Latin!

  • @Romanophonie
    @Romanophonie 2 года назад +2

    *Insert genius meme* All jokes aside, this video has solidified my plan to use Familia Romana when I study Latin.

  • @DJRotxy
    @DJRotxy 2 года назад +1

    It's so weird to hear Davide speaking in english 😱😱

  • @Michail_Chatziasemidis
    @Michail_Chatziasemidis 2 года назад +2

    Numquam prius Davidem altiōrem quam tē esse crēvī animō. Κἀγαθότατά γε ῥωμαϊστὶ διαλέγεσθαι ἐπειρήσατο.

    • @Glossologia
      @Glossologia 2 года назад

      Davide est valde altus ;-)

  • @misterpiano92
    @misterpiano92 2 года назад +1

    Visificus optimus (estne verbum "video" in lingua latina?) ! Nunc Urbem Romam rursus visitare cupio! :D
    PS.: sorry if I made mistakes, reading Latin isn't the same as speaking it. ;)

  • @Cyclonus2377
    @Cyclonus2377 2 года назад +1

    "Cuomodo dicitur..." (sp?) ➡️ "Como si dice..." & "Cómo se dice..."
    This will never stop being amazing to me! 😃😃

  • @stephanobarbosa5805
    @stephanobarbosa5805 2 года назад +2

    Vocês entendem português, espanhol e romeno?

  • @vittoriovelardi8678
    @vittoriovelardi8678 2 года назад +3

    one of the best english accent from an italian lol

    • @BrandonBoardman
      @BrandonBoardman Месяц назад

      I agree. I was also very surprised that he can speak English with an accent close to General American English.

  • @syedhaider2084
    @syedhaider2084 Год назад +1

    There are many words similar to Urdu and Hindi.
    Like Marna in Urdu means "to die"
    Urdu has many words from Sanskrit.
    So it's not shocking I think

  • @wsfree1
    @wsfree1 2 года назад +3

    Great video. Very encouraging and motivating for me as I’m currently trudging through Familia Romana myself.

  • @Rhoadie1
    @Rhoadie1 Год назад +2

    I've had this exact unproven feeling in myself about this kind of interaction of these two languages for a very long time. I always felt that Latin must have sounded similar to Italian and also that Italian must be the closest thing to Latin in the modern world. I have no formal training in language studies but it sounds Italian if you muddle your way through it. Then again there's the Tom Segura joke about his last name when checking into a hotel...... This could also be me LOL.

  • @aureliamichigana
    @aureliamichigana 2 года назад +4

    Awesome video, I've been understanding more and more of the spoken Latin in these videos, which is great!

  • @madsrasmussen5536
    @madsrasmussen5536 2 года назад +8

    Excellent video!

  • @eduardobarrezueta5247
    @eduardobarrezueta5247 2 года назад +2

    Fun fact... in Spanish ARA and ALTAR are still both in use. ME PLACE MUCHÍSIMO ESTA CONVERSACIÓN 😎

  • @Tranxhead
    @Tranxhead 2 года назад +1

    Aw, Luke. I am Scottish and even I know spaghetti all'amatriciana (i veri con guanciale). You need yourself a plate of it!

  • @albizabm
    @albizabm 2 года назад +2

    Accidenti..se non parlaste in latino,non capirei un"acca😅

  • @rickjones2192
    @rickjones2192 2 года назад +1

    Yoda, in Star Wars, spoke using a Latin sentence structure. No?

  • @joligej
    @joligej 2 года назад +2

    @polýMATHY Luke, have you ever considered doing talks and lectures about how it's important to study Latin in the way you encourage everyone to, which is trying to comprehend the language and to get some degree of fluency in speaking it, instead of putting every single sentence through the lens of translation? In the country I live in, for instance (the Netherlands), Latin is only taught as an extra subject in the Dutch equivalent of middle and high school (and even then only when you're doing the highest level of education). Most people that aren't already interested in learning Latin this way won't find themselves getting recommendations for your videos on their home feed. Perhaps giving talks internationally will spark a bit of interest in some people or lead them to the conclusion that the translatory method isn't the best way to study Latin. I would love to hear how you feel about that.

  • @nello_tostapanello1510
    @nello_tostapanello1510 2 года назад +1

    Pls i'm italian and i studied latin for 2 years and the only thing that i remember is the verb to be

  • @MrDanilop45
    @MrDanilop45 2 года назад +1

    Come to Sardinia and learn a little bit of Sardinian language, it will help your Latin grammar a lot (because it’s one of the rare latin romance live language), you don’t need it a lot, your latin is pretty good.

  • @ryanyesman7664
    @ryanyesman7664 2 года назад +2

    What I find fascinating is as a native english speaker with a fair understanding spanish I can actually make out a lot of words in spoken latin. While I couldnt properly translate or understand any long sentences, I can still tell what they're talking about and the general sentiment towards the items they're discussing.

  • @cleitondecarvalho431
    @cleitondecarvalho431 2 года назад +2

    Ho cominciato amare la lingua italiana dopo che ho imparato abbastanza latino. Grazie ai due !

  • @aldocuneo1140
    @aldocuneo1140 Год назад +1

    Gli italiani parlano latino tutti i giorni, un dialetto latino, ma sempre latino è .

  • @VerbaleMondo
    @VerbaleMondo 2 года назад +1

    Wait, when did Roman emperors started speaking English?

    • @starguy2718
      @starguy2718 Год назад

      In the movies, Caesar speaks English very well... usually with a British accent!

  • @danielemessina1979
    @danielemessina1979 2 года назад +1

    I think the vast majority of Italians learn the ecclesiastical pronunciation in highschool, as I did. It's unfortunate because I would pick up a lot more of what you're saying if the pronunciation matched. I am not going back to highschool, which means you gotta change man. XD

    • @BrandonBoardman
      @BrandonBoardman Месяц назад

      Luke is using the Restored Classical pronunciation or Restituta. The Classical and Ecclesiastical pronunciations are both legitimate choices.

  • @pterispertinax2868
    @pterispertinax2868 2 года назад +1

    Regarding "interesting" -- I find the following examples in Traupman: 1. Donna mihi vidētur speciōsa puella. (Donna seems to be a very interesting girl.) 2. Ille liber mē tenet. (That book is interesting.)