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Комментарии • 141

  • @amboricasaikiabaruah6908
    @amboricasaikiabaruah6908 3 года назад +35

    Thank u for the insight ! It’s indeed v difficult to have Venus in Virgo . I from my personal experience can relate to your this video as I have Venus in the first house with sun Saturn and mercury in Virgo . Relationship fails , marriage has challenges , career went for a change .always found myself empty .. finally at 38 years of my life I studied again to work for social welfare and started to accept what is offered to me without expectations and I am finally moving towards peace .But yes it’s so difficult that no matter what u feel stuck!

    • @santoshniha514
      @santoshniha514 3 года назад +3

      Same here....

    • @geethanaveen7122
      @geethanaveen7122 3 года назад +3

      Can resonate with you completely

    • @makeup6875
      @makeup6875 3 года назад +1

      But you have neech Bhanga Raj yoga

    • @ananyaguptaa2448
      @ananyaguptaa2448 2 года назад +1

      I have this same conjunction

    • @raghavendrag2632
      @raghavendrag2632 2 года назад +1

      I have the same planets in Virgo ascendant sun,Saturn,mercury,Venus . really facing lot of issues in my career,and marriage life .most of the astrologer said me after the age of 39 years Venus .mercury get matured .

  • @pkapadia666
    @pkapadia666 3 года назад +8

    Your analysis is so difficult from others and it has a spiritual touch to it too. That's what makes it so unique

  • @Kingsdaughter10.4
    @Kingsdaughter10.4 Год назад +9

    I dumped someone with this placement today. He was so critical all the time it definitely did sour the relationship. It’s the only time I’ve ever been in a relationship and had to dump someone and felt no sorrow but relief in doing so.

  • @Nandi10896
    @Nandi10896 9 месяцев назад +1

    I know this is an old video, but I just have to comment on how I love your honesty along with remedial measures. You are a true Brahman completely qualified to take the position of an astrologer 🙏

  • @MM-ql5ji
    @MM-ql5ji 11 месяцев назад +9

    My husband has this placement.. hes too critical like a mother-in-law that it killed my attraction towards him.. i try but to live with this everyday is difficult.. too much calculations and manipulation in the relationship.. her was physically abusive when i was pregnant.. i endurerd it all because i loved him.. 10yrs of relationship and there is so much pain in me.. this relationship always felt one way.. i feel so alone... But i hold on because its so easy to divorce and i don't want to do that i don't give-up at all.. i keeep reminding myself that i married for life and its a commitment i wont go back on.. may god give me patience and take me away qiickly.. he constantly says that there are good ideal womern out there.. since two months into marriage it hurts me.. i used to react in the beginning nowadays i haver gone numb... I don't talk anything other than necessary with him.. i don't take his criticism to heart.. i ignore di my duties and go on... I know yhis universe knows whats inside me... May god giver him happiness.. may the higher power let whatever is right happens.. i surrender.🙏

    • @8all8at8once8
      @8all8at8once8 10 месяцев назад

      Oh, amazing! And you’ll have him raise your kids? I could just sarcastically say: you are so strong to hold on! And stay strong through the punishment of a narcissist. 💪🏽
      I’d already start to save some money for your kids therapist. Or you just want your kids be like you.
      If divorce is so easy nowadays, why don’t you do it then, instead of suffering? Are you more worried of how others may see you?
      When did it start the brainwashing of women to think: „ I’m extraordinarily strong, staying with that insufferable man without character, who’s physically abusing me.“
      WHEN??!

    • @Mukesh-bf1xt
      @Mukesh-bf1xt 8 месяцев назад

      pls share DOb maam if possible

    • @harithavalmiki9390
      @harithavalmiki9390 4 месяца назад

      Staying or moving on is upto you and you only know what's suits your situation...but whatever you choose....am rooting strength and peace to you...❤...in either ways may peace chooses you and heal you... lots of love to you sister..❤

    • @MM-ql5ji
      @MM-ql5ji 4 месяца назад

      @@8all8at8once8 hi.. I do not know ur name.. i don't know if I shud address you as brother or sister.. all I ask is you are not in my shoes.. so please stop judging me... I have no family mum or dad.. no one who can support me.. I gave away all my jewelry and saving for his business during lockdown he had a major loss in his business to support him inwas working until lockdown and after that I had a high risk pregnancy I became a diabetic and struggle health wise.. if I step out today I don't have a roof nor food for my kid.. i know all this was my stupidity to trust someone is so naive and wrong these days. I couldn't take his abuse anymore so I have recently come to the conclusion of leaving him. But I need to wait sometime to figure my away out.. i have to put my toddler to play school and get a job wait few months save up for a roof and some good and move out with my kid.
      I always used to beat myself up for my kid to not grow up without a father what if she asks after she grows up... But now I realised she will also ask me if I put her through this abusive environment to grow up.. so I will choose the less harmful one for her.. i don't know if am doing the right to thing but my intention is there will b peace for my kid to grow up.
      So, please don't jump on someone and make ur conclusion because u don't know brother/sister that what the.hell that person is going through.. i care less about what anyone around me think.. am worried only for my child's future

    • @MM-ql5ji
      @MM-ql5ji 4 месяца назад

      @@harithavalmiki9390 thank u... It's been a long time hearing a kind word.. thank u for ur kindness.. do pray for my kid we need prayers to get through. I am leaving just figuring out my way. Thank u again.

  • @sivaram3555
    @sivaram3555 3 года назад +3

    Venus in the 8th house aries combusted and also conjuncted with debilitated saturn and also it is placed in the 10th house from the moon (lost directional strength) and it is placed in virgo sign in D9 chart. And Now am undergoing venus MD. Of course it is challenging and hard when comes to dealing with opposite gender and Love matters. But also this venus dasha helping me to excel in my career. In a medical profession. Healing people... I devoted completely to service to the people actually feels good.. :)

  • @reemanaik6545
    @reemanaik6545 2 года назад +7

    Sir, I am that unlucky lady having vinus in 6th house in Capricorn ascendent, moon sign and also in navamsha chart...And going through Vinus Mahasabha...Whatever I suffered during this period can't even express...May God help me to come out of this situation...Thank you for this video sir because now at least won't blame anyone else for my misfortune...It is all because of my past bad karmas

    • @trueastrobytej4237
      @trueastrobytej4237 2 года назад +2

      This is how astrology helps us to help avoid ,mistakes ,puting blame of our wrongdoings on other ,n above all chalk out a holistic approach to life.

    • @Srividhya1682
      @Srividhya1682 Год назад +2

      Don't be critical on yourself. I have the same. I practice meditation abd now learnt to give. Without taking anything from spouse. It's not that bad.

    • @8thhousealchemist600
      @8thhousealchemist600 Год назад

      You deserve love regardless ❤

  • @GeminianExplorer
    @GeminianExplorer 3 года назад +3

    Astrology feels good with your explanation 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @amd8095
    @amd8095 3 года назад +2

    I have quite good Venus in my chart in Capricorn in 5th with Lagnesh Mercury and parivartana with exalted Saturn. Saturn in 2nd. Also Venus ruler of 9th and Mercury is ruler of 10th and 1st. 7th Lord in 3rd ( 9th from 7th), no aspects on it. In D9 Venus in Libera. My marriage life is fully sh...t, 2 divorce and half of my life fighting with my ex, non-stop courts now for over 7 years.
    I have Ra+Sa in D9 in Capricorn and Rahu Mahadasha, so not always Venus is guilty for marriage .

  • @anaghavarghese
    @anaghavarghese Год назад +1

    Mercury, sun and Venus all in Virgo in 4th house in d9 chart. Sir is the debilitation cancelled? How will married life be? What r remedies?
    In D1 Venus and rahu in 11th house in Pisces.

  • @neerjamalik7824
    @neerjamalik7824 3 года назад +2

    Nice video I was waiting for this Video
    My son has Venus in Virgo in 6th house & in Navmansha, Venus in 6 th house in Pices

  • @ashwinimahadik8191
    @ashwinimahadik8191 3 года назад +1

    What is more beneficial ???? To wear gemstone as a ring or pendent???

  • @myobmaravilla9094
    @myobmaravilla9094 3 года назад +1

    I have Venus in Virgo in 12th house. Past Relationships have been lousy. I married and after 9 years divorced. I don’t feel hopeful. Ironically I came upon astrology after my divorce.

  • @rgc1033
    @rgc1033 3 года назад +5

    What if it’s debilitated in D9?

  • @ruchirana4299
    @ruchirana4299 3 года назад +2

    Academic videos are most awaited. Pls upload more like this.

  • @fusionermx
    @fusionermx 7 месяцев назад

    Great insights. I am a Scorpio lagna with a debilitated Venus and I have faced it in my life until I started doing some remedies.

  • @marindabrummer4602
    @marindabrummer4602 3 года назад +3

    Thank you Punneit, learning so much from you!

  • @idiotstupid1000
    @idiotstupid1000 3 года назад +2

    What if this Venus in Virgo is accompanied with mercury in 8H? Mercury is also lord of 5th house (Gemini)

  • @8thhousealchemist600
    @8thhousealchemist600 Год назад +1

    Can you cover all the deliberaters of Venus, like certain degrees and conjunctions?

  • @sayanmukherjee5465
    @sayanmukherjee5465 3 года назад +2

    Sir, I have debilitated venus in hasta nakshatra, whenever I am going to relationship, somehow disputes start in my family.. they don't like my gf. But I have parivartan yoga of venus and mercury.. Mercury in libra.. Does it cancel debilitation??

    • @msfrankiec85
      @msfrankiec85 3 года назад

      I have this very yoga but this type of yoga does not cancel the debilitation. A Neechbhanga Raja Yoga cancels it.

  • @ralphpinkins5619
    @ralphpinkins5619 2 дня назад

    Im a man with this placement. Heres some insight about this placement:
    Advice for ladies for dealing with men with this placement: you are going into a very adult relationship where there is going to be alot of expectations of you. But your man is going to be of service to you and very rewarding as well. That has its good and bad. Take it how you want. If you know, that youre not built like that, to handle that level of a relationship, where your man doesnt treat you like a little girl and he is expecting a full grown woman, then stay far, far away from this type of man. Most women are not full grown women, theyre, little girls, so theyre going to have a difficult time adjusting to dealing with that energy because that means alot of accountability/ responsibility and work. Thats where this "lack of love/the love feels like work" angle comes from but its really not true. It doesnt mean theres no time for fun in the relationship, it means that fun has its time and place. Venus in other placements have a fantasy child like view of love and relationships where connection is based on chemistry, initial sparks, and physical attraction. Youre not going to get that with a Venus in virgo placement. Hes going to be giving off friend zone vibes. But with that heavy dose of realism, this placement is much more prepared for a real marriage that lasts then the other placements because theyre so realistic. As a woman, all you have to do is pull your own weight, handle your business, and be constantly self developing yourself. This placement is all about boundaries, and expectations. if you can do that youll have a great partner.

  • @geethumb7748
    @geethumb7748 3 года назад +3

    I have venus in Virgo and mercury in libra, sir will this create parivartan yog? Here should I consider my venus as debilitated..? Will I have the effects of this debilitation?

    • @sindhuran9107
      @sindhuran9107 3 года назад

      I have the same combination too..!!

    • @raajat5
      @raajat5 3 года назад

      Same combination. Sag ascendent so its 10th and 11th House.

    • @PunneitsAstrology
      @PunneitsAstrology  3 года назад +1

      Lessens the debilitation effect only if both have no malefic inclination. But never cancels it 100%

    • @geethumb7748
      @geethumb7748 3 года назад

      @@PunneitsAstrology Thank you for the response!🙏

    • @sindhuran9107
      @sindhuran9107 3 года назад

      Thanku so very much for the reply punneit ji

  • @UnpredictableAri
    @UnpredictableAri Месяц назад

    Do you teach in person courses or do you have meet and greets?
    Do you do any consultations?

  • @bhaubau6247
    @bhaubau6247 Год назад +2

    Sorry...I would Like to defer...but when u over give ,other half start taking u for granted....relationship should be two sided in healthy way....As a virgo venus...we should start loving and valuing ourself first ,then only we can extend love to others....And its true unconditional love is true form of love

  • @Namrata_Arora
    @Namrata_Arora 3 года назад +1

    Venus in sixth house with mercury and ketu , is this neech bhang Raj yoga ? What are the implications of it ?

  • @manushmodi3835
    @manushmodi3835 3 года назад +1

    Please make a video on Debilitated Mars also. Lots of Respect 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @somyajittsarkr6137
    @somyajittsarkr6137 3 года назад +1

    Will be grateful if you could make a video on Exalted Venus & Venus Ketu Conjunction in Gandanta (Revati Pada 4 both)

  • @sindhuran9107
    @sindhuran9107 3 года назад +2

    My Venus is in Virgo and Mercury is in Libra. Iam a cancer ascendant.. will it be considered the same or any rasi parivartan laws applicable here?
    Please enlighten me..

    • @hehehaha698
      @hehehaha698 27 дней назад

      Did you get you this ans somewhere else ? I also have same placement

  • @shivnarayan5080
    @shivnarayan5080 3 года назад +1

    I have debilitated venus in 12th house. And Mercury is placed in 10th house (kendra house) in d9 chart, so is it neech bhanga?

  • @shreedhartimilsina3711
    @shreedhartimilsina3711 2 года назад +1

    I have Venus in virgo but mercury also same house and sun also what happens

  • @9243858110
    @9243858110 3 года назад +2

    What if it gets beech bhang raj yoga

  • @ankitapatra9134
    @ankitapatra9134 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful background.
    Where is it?

  • @erinelizabeth5465
    @erinelizabeth5465 3 года назад +1

    Vic DiCara refers to Venus in Uttara Phalguni as the “ideal woman”. How can this position be debilitated too?

    • @PunneitsAstrology
      @PunneitsAstrology  3 года назад +6

      Because she sacrifices. Just like debilitated venus

    • @chandnihorvath
      @chandnihorvath Год назад

      I have Venus in Uttara Phalguni pada 4 which gets exalted in D9. Can confirm. Made too many sacrifices for others.

  • @davkaaltan
    @davkaaltan 3 года назад +2

    Can you do debilitated Venus in houses? What if it’s in 9th house?

    • @dilawarrana5999
      @dilawarrana5999 3 месяца назад

      Get money from Teaching
      Might Have Troublesome Relationship / Affair with Teachers

  • @nirmalyaster
    @nirmalyaster 3 года назад +1

    Punneit Sir, I am taurus ascendant and Venus falls in 6th house but Libra sign. Saturn also conjuncts Venus in 6th house. Ketu Alone in 7th house and Rahu + Moon in lagna. Mars + Jupiter in 8th House (Dhanu).. I was school topper but always failure in romance, later in 2007 father left us, he used to torture mom for money and I used to prevent them since childhood. I have seen so many battles inside house that I have no trust over marriage (Well I dint do anything bad) Now I am working as a software architect since 2007, job is good.. but due to this family issue people isolate us, also I am not a "salesman" that I can boast myself, so people does not even care. This social stigma made me bachelor even 37th year running now. What a curse ! Can you share some light or can I take some consultation? I have tried matrimony but people had insulted us (as my dad is alive but not with us) so much that I better stay and do my job not selling my respect. Nasty society and illiterate people, this all made me workaholic and I keep doing study and research in technology but life is dry.

    • @sujitapandey5162
      @sujitapandey5162 2 года назад +1

      Don't worry ..Nirmalya ..I too have Taurus ascendant and Venus in Libra ...and the same story... issues with father...what a coincidence..,😁

  • @pallaviverma5541
    @pallaviverma5541 3 года назад +1

    Grattitude Puneit ji🌺🙏🏻
    Is it true for d9 chart alsoo...

  • @indiaburke9457
    @indiaburke9457 3 года назад

    Hi Punniet!
    Debillitated Venus in Virgo squares/opposes houses where " value" as a mutable not fixed or hingeable thing. So much ease in Tau and Lib shows true not as a labored , studied, dogmatic or copied value

    • @divitjain8624
      @divitjain8624 2 года назад +1

      My venues is debilitated can someone help me what will be the result my married life my DOB is 7 oct 1998 time 7:35pm place roorkee

  • @paarvathijagadishanithajag7821
    @paarvathijagadishanithajag7821 3 года назад

    Every day new knowledge and guidance with care from you 🙏, every day I will be waiting for, thank you so much

  • @avenger2247
    @avenger2247 3 года назад +1

    For successful marriage in which sign should be venus in spouse chart?

  • @harshit233
    @harshit233 3 года назад +1

    I have debilitated in navamsa 4th house. I am really worried

  • @jgdreshma
    @jgdreshma 3 года назад +2

    Thank you 🙏❤️

  • @gundeepraj7246
    @gundeepraj7246 3 года назад +1

    hi punniet , i am Gemini ascendant and my Venus is in 10th house with along with mercury. I am 30+ not married yet , and no long relations success :(

  • @priyankachakraborty5512
    @priyankachakraborty5512 3 года назад +1

    Can you please make a video on Venus in Scorpio

  • @vishweshwarand7724
    @vishweshwarand7724 3 года назад +1

    This is useful to me right now.

  • @manushmodi3835
    @manushmodi3835 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much.

  • @Flowertree333
    @Flowertree333 3 года назад +1

    Please sir, my Venus in d1 chart is in pushya pada 2 making it Pushkara navasma in Virgo sign. Will venus give better results since it is Pushkara?

    • @jomonjos3462
      @jomonjos3462 2 года назад +1

      Same here... Hows your relationship going... Are you married..?

    • @Flowertree333
      @Flowertree333 2 года назад

      @@jomonjos3462 in the process of trying to get married. I won't lie, this relationship started with lots of struggles but my darakaraka is also Saturn in aquarius so my spouse is a bit unconventional when it comes to relationships. It all depends on your chart so don't worry and try to stay positive

  • @seabreeze4559
    @seabreeze4559 3 года назад

    what if Lord of the Venus nakshatra is exalted e.g. Hasta venus conjunct Ketu, but Moon in Krittika?

  • @anonymous-eg9cn
    @anonymous-eg9cn 3 года назад

    Hello Punneit, great video.

  • @ttsdag1227
    @ttsdag1227 3 года назад

    Please, what with venus in capricorn uttaraashadha in 6th house for magha ASC. Women

  • @libin15mathews
    @libin15mathews 3 года назад

    I have Venus Mercury in 12th house in Libra Sign & Marriage Continues to delay as Shani is in Scorpio Lagna

  • @muazzamgeorge
    @muazzamgeorge 3 года назад

    dear i am facing the same problem I am libra 26 September 1966 in between 10:00 to 10:30 am please guide me

  • @naynakarelia1403
    @naynakarelia1403 3 года назад +8

    I m giving 1000%
    And getting 70% in return 🙈😢
    But I m doing my karma as u telling in this video guruji 😣

    • @SusanHopkinson
      @SusanHopkinson 3 года назад

      But you seem to be giving with expectations. Otherwise you wouldn’t be making such calculations.

  • @kruthiprathosh3113
    @kruthiprathosh3113 2 года назад

    What happens if it is conjunct with exalted mercury 🤔

  • @sayalidhabugade7068
    @sayalidhabugade7068 3 года назад +1

    I have sun Mars Venus conjunction in 6th house

  • @deciphertn1328
    @deciphertn1328 2 года назад

    Hi punneit .. i am having debiliated venus and ketu in virgo , having sun mercury in leo.. need ur analysis...

  • @dharanigreensolutions6183
    @dharanigreensolutions6183 2 года назад

    Sir, you are a good orator

  • @naynakarelia1403
    @naynakarelia1403 3 года назад

    Very important topic 👍👍🙏🙏🙏

  • @livelife6660
    @livelife6660 3 года назад

    I hv venus rahu in 8 house..female...universal energies are well connected to me...scorpio ascendant

  • @rashi4033
    @rashi4033 3 года назад +2

    I have a debilitated Venus and yes have suffered a lot in marriage. 2 operations due to Crohn's disease etc etc. Am a brahmachari although married. Cheating husband. Verbally abused when I spoke of divorce. No one really helps. That's how the world works I guess.

    • @umaramana5061
      @umaramana5061 3 года назад +2

      Oh my god sorry for ur loss , try to get poor people get married give some money to them , practical remedies work better all the best

    • @PriyankaB134
      @PriyankaB134 Год назад

      Which house

  • @sgeetha7350
    @sgeetha7350 3 года назад +1

    I have debilitated Venus, vargottama ... and its my atmakaraka... what does that mean?? 7th lord is exalted..saturn..

    • @saltashiva6392
      @saltashiva6392 3 года назад

      Wow! İ have too exactly the same combination😳even the Satürn..

    • @marie31316
      @marie31316 Год назад

      Can you guys share your experience? I have AK Venus and it's Vargottamma in Chitra Nakshatra

  • @drbharti249
    @drbharti249 3 года назад

    Can capricorn ascendant with debilitating venus and sun in 9th house wear diamond
    Please help

  • @vkavka3160
    @vkavka3160 3 года назад

    My brother is still a bachelor.venus retrograde in 2nd house and is kanya lagna male

  • @janakim.3625
    @janakim.3625 3 года назад

    Thank you sir.

  • @aishwaryasaravanan8853
    @aishwaryasaravanan8853 3 года назад

    Nowadays you are doing best things

  • @aiswaryakalle6817
    @aiswaryakalle6817 3 года назад

    What happens if Mercury, Venus and Sun are in Ascendant, Sun in lowest degrees. My Seventh lord is Virgottama.. is that good or bad.

    • @aiswaryakalle6817
      @aiswaryakalle6817 3 года назад

      My Venus is debilitated and Mercury is exalted, is it neech bhanga

  • @IamPoulomi
    @IamPoulomi 3 года назад +1

    I have venus in virgo in uttarphalguni nakshatra in d9 chart

  • @suvrabose8833
    @suvrabose8833 3 года назад

    Thank u vry much 💛

  • @sebee555
    @sebee555 3 года назад

    Please do one for exalted Venus next please 🙏

  • @pallavirao3662
    @pallavirao3662 3 года назад

    Taurus acs with Venus in 5th house Virgo. 7th house lord Mars in 2nd house with Ketu

  • @Kaiyathri
    @Kaiyathri 2 года назад

    Thanks ji 🙏

  • @crystalivee
    @crystalivee Год назад

    While I do appreciate the explanation, I also feel this is a placement that will contribute to a person going homeless.

  • @DebasishOfficial
    @DebasishOfficial Год назад

    I am having a very hard time finding a partner

  • @karthikamadugu241
    @karthikamadugu241 3 года назад

    Tanq punneit🙏

  • @Adityaa-cy9rw
    @Adityaa-cy9rw 3 года назад

    Nice

  • @rumi_das_biswas
    @rumi_das_biswas 3 года назад

    I have venus deb in 3rd, saturn in 7th, and mars in 4th aspecting the saturn (saturn also aspect the mars). Ask me the pain lol 😆😆😆

    • @483Rahulkmr
      @483Rahulkmr 3 года назад

      I have deblitation in navamsa of 12th

    • @lazymango5586
      @lazymango5586 3 года назад

      samee mars deb in 10th venus in 12th saturn in 7th and moon too in 2nd 😥😥

  • @vatsupp
    @vatsupp 3 года назад +1

    Debilitated venus with ketu in d-9?😢😢

  • @Elvish_army14
    @Elvish_army14 Месяц назад

    Esaaa kyu 😭😭😭😭

  • @msfrankiec85
    @msfrankiec85 3 года назад +1

    Doesn’t it also depend on the degrees where it sits at?

    • @PunneitsAstrology
      @PunneitsAstrology  3 года назад +1

      Yes. The video is a general understanding.

    • @msfrankiec85
      @msfrankiec85 3 года назад

      @@PunneitsAstrology ok. Thank you for the video lesson and clarification.

  • @soujanyanv8971
    @soujanyanv8971 3 года назад

    How do i contact you sir

    • @renegaderogue6310
      @renegaderogue6310 3 года назад

      Look for his email in the description box.

    • @soujanyanv8971
      @soujanyanv8971 3 года назад

      @@renegaderogue6310 there is no response to the email

    • @PunneitsAstrology
      @PunneitsAstrology  3 года назад

      @@soujanyanv8971 I will reply. It's just that i have 100s of email to reply hence the delay.

  • @RKS11111
    @RKS11111 3 года назад

    What if venus is okok condition...
    But 7th lord Saturn combust with sun in 7th house....own house

  • @ankushmanhas5194
    @ankushmanhas5194 Год назад

  • @mitravaruna
    @mitravaruna 3 года назад +1

    Is it just me or is this guy trying to copy KRS’s style?

  • @GurdevSingh-bk1xw
    @GurdevSingh-bk1xw Год назад

    Who cares??this position gives. U karmics....and karmics. R karmics😂😂