Installing A Footclutch Pedal Assembly on the Harley Davidson Project Bike
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2020
- Installing a complete "rocker clutch" pedal assembly on a 1940 Harley Davidson Flathead Eighty. Assembled from parts, this is how it goes together and this is how it works.
THANK YOU...for sharing. Really enjoying this build Mike. You just keep digging those parts out.
Thank You. I'll be glad to.
nice Mike ; really look forward to the next. thanks for sharing your talent.
Thanks for listening.
You know, you should not apologize for you parts, at least you have the parts and who really care what we think, it is your build. The point is, you are sharing your time and knowledge with us, as long as you show us how to do it correctly.
So, thank you for sharing your time and knowledge with us!
Thank You.
No problem, if you need anything, please let me know, I have a lot of older items if you run into a snag. I also do leatherwork and I just do not mean stamping and lacing, real deal old school craftsmanship. You may just need a kidney belt or something and could always be a donation to your channel.
Always a pleasure Mr Pacific. You bring old skool knowledge to a newer generation, God bless. It’s great how you pay it forward, there are some cats out there that want to take all their knowledge to the grave, I know a couple personally, good folk but couldn’t be bothered unless they are being paid. So hats off to you my friend, the knowledge you provide is priceless, plus you’re wicked cool. Take care of yourself Mike, we’ll see you soon.
Thank You. That's a wonderful thing to say. Hope to see you soon.
This Bike is going to be Old School Cool. I am tuned in all the way to the end. Be Safe Mike.
Thank You. I'll do my best.
I can’t wait to see it finished. I really enjoy these videos. Thank you.
Glad you enjoy it!
Awesome Videos. I thought I knew it all ... he shows me I dont... 🤣🍸
@@pacificmike9501 Dear Pacific Mike,
I have just seen one of your videos with interest, having studied electronics engineering, and having collected model motorbikes, as a hobby, though I am the self called "enemy", being an ex car driver?
Please could I ask this stupid question? Why has nobody invented, or would it be impossible to invent, a reverse gear for motorbikes? Would it help bring peace to all road users, and help present car drivers "think bike"? Thank you.
Nice to see someone use a real heel toe clutch instead of the suicide ones
I like both.
I love your videos Mike!
Thank You.
As usual nice job Mike! ☮ 👍👍
Thank You.
Always a pleasure to see something new for me. I've never gotten familiar with the foot clutch on a bike, but maybe in the future. I'm actually considering it more and more lately.
This is going to be quite the interesting piece for me to learn about those older methods of mechanical enginuity as you progress on your project. I love the old stuff.
Love the progress so far!
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Thank You.
Now how could anyone give this a thumbs down?!?
Thank You.
I always find your videos therapeutic. Thanks for keeping us up to date Mike.
My pleasure. Thank You.
Thanks for sharing this Mike. Stay well.
Thanks, you too!
Mike... great videos. I am assembling a '46 FL... this video helped me realize that the dust cover goes on the way it does. These videos of your are well explained and well thought out. Thanks!!! Dave from Long Island, NY
Glad it helped. That's great.
I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos,I really enjoy watching them.
Glad you like them!
I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos. I am not a mechanic. I love my Road King and my Knucklehead. Too chicken to work on them myself. I watch your vlogs whenever there is a new one because they relax me and they educate me, and they inspire me.
Very cool. Thank You.
Its getting interesting day by day uncle mike, can't wait to see the result.
It's coming from the "Land of On and On..."
love your videos Mike and the rebuild is looking awesome and that little black cover helps in breaking up the chrome old school bikes are great I love them and reminds of the 37 basket case I build old flat head that turned out to-be a old army bike that was still not assembled the guy took it out the create and did not want to build it I purchased it for $400.00 but I sold it after building it keep the videos coming
Thank You. I will.
Nice collection of parts
And that's what a home built bike should be. Thank You.
I just wanted to say you’re a national Treasure Mike. I’ve learned so much through your videos. Thank you.
Wow, thanks
You can use an open end if you want. I won't complain if you use pliers. I remember riding a foot clutch one time. I also remember that a year or 2 later they invented dirt, so it's been a while back. It seemed perfectly natural after the second or third shift. As far as the looks are going, I think so far, you've got a winner.
Thank You. I appreciate that. I like all the different clutch pedals and shifters, just for the variety of it all.
Always good stuff to see. Thanks Mike
Thank You.
I once built up a friends Pan and incorporated a secondary hand clutch for starting and stopping for when he was hammered.
-'lil stan
Those things tend to occur.
good looking clutch pedal set up
Thank You.
Parts, parts, parts! This is getting interesting, and I can see it is a lengthy endeavour to mock up properly. I imagine it will be a while before you order anything, but it would be nice to sneak in a new part here and there. Enjoyed,as always Mike, cheers!
Thank You. We do things as best we can. We'll keep the project going and hope you enjoy it.
Always makes me happy when I see a new upload from your channel Mike...regardless of the topic! Thanks again and God bless. Regards, Mitch
That really does make me feel good. Thank You.
You seem so chill man. How do you stay so chill and calm
Practice.
Good stuff mike. 🤘
Thank You.
Awesome Mike parts like that is more like a piece of art.
I love 'em.
Cool to see that kickstand bracket go in place, it's a nice piece. You otta make a video of your parts room.
Parts room is private stash. Personally, a lot of worn out old stuff that I take from and restore. But, it's where I go to hide me. And, it's really small.
Its going to look magnificent Mike . Looking forward to seeing the next video cheers mate
Thank You. And, backatcha.
You have inspired me to do my own build. Thank you for such amazing and detailed videos! Just picked up a mid 90s softail “roller” for my first build!
Have fun!
Mike, always look forward to your videos. My first time seeing that type clutch pedal assembly.
Thank You. And, welcome to the world of old stuff. This was the "norm."
Pretty awesome Mike. Keep those great videos coming. Ride safe my friend. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks, you too!
I love the old bikes i just got a 1992 gsxr 750 and i have a 1974 fxe 😀
Sounds like fun to me.
That’s an incredible Frame Pacific Mike 🤩
It's just an oldtimey rigid Harley frame that's been straightened and repaired, ready to build. Glad you like it.
Pacific Mike I noticed how well the cross members are cast , got that unmistakable old Harley iron/steel look.
Nice job Mike 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Looking great brother mike, ive had 2 bikes with that set up and enjoyed it .
Ride hard ride safe be well
Thanks, you too!
I really enjoy your videos.
Glad you like them!
Loving this hope the front end turns up soon🇬🇧👍
Thank You. Me too.
Ah, so it's 'toe to go' on these things, thanks Mike; please forgive my ignorance, but having never seen such a beastie close up, I'd always assumed they were sprung & operated like a car clutch . . (which, being English, made me think of wet weather, slippery boots & the likelihood of involuntary 'auto-launches' at traffic lights etc.) . . . I now understand my error.
Have to admit I'd love to try one sometime, but - "if you drop it, you've bought it" can get a tad expensive with Harleys : )
P.S. As self appointed chairman of the campaign for blue asphalt, can I just say: 'Hope to see you out on the woad'.
Thank You. That will be grand.
It's all coming together beautifully. You must have some patience to wait for the parts you need,I'd be getting really wound up! Stay well Mike.👍👍
Thank You. If it was my only bike, I'd be climbing the walls. I like to always have a project in the works. I can sit next to it and redesign it all day long. Or, go ride something I already built.
Real nice. Can’t wait .
Thank You.
Thank you
You're welcome
Great to see you again Mike, love your channel,very educational 🇺🇸👍...Your like "Willie G" , "Einstein" and "Mr. Rogers" all rolled into One.Thank you for what you do👍🇺🇸😎 ...Very Cool...🇺🇸
Thank You. Don't think I can live up to all that.
@@pacificmike9501 just be you ...your doing a great job 😎🇺🇸
Thanks Mike, so relaxing watching your video’s, can’t wait to see the finished bike. Wondering what Color it’ll be
When we finish massaging each part, she'll be done. Color will probably be something you didn't expect. Thank you for watching.
Thanks for the response Mike, no worries , I’m a follower for sure
Hey Mike, always enjoy your vids. Thank you for the tip on how to use a car jack to lift the frame on a non-roller. Using a jack that way gets it out of the way. I am always hitting the bike jack when it is under the frame on the lift and it always seems to be in the way. I love the build what you got mentality and not the purist perception of it's a '40 so nothing but parts for a '40 go on it.
I try to do that, but this one is a compilation of "period correct " stuff, not all 1940.
@@pacificmike9501 Ah yes, "period correct' like using a shovelhead bracket on a big twin flatty
Very neat 😎
Thank You.
I had that identical clutch mechanism on my 1973 FL Police Special. I chromed it and put it on my Ness rigid frame. I love four speeds. Everything was always a universal fit. I went to the Harley dealership to buy a kicker cover and the clerk did not ask me the year or model. He showed me the parts book. One part fit 1929 to present. OK.
And that had to be for you 45.
Always a video when I least expect it. Can you hint at the final frame color or finish?
Something plain.
This dude is awesome 👍👍👍
Thank You.
Awesome!!
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Hello from Sweden🇸🇪. You must have a big partsroom where u can find all kinds of nice parts for the project bike👍. The clutchbracket is a nice pice with the black shield! I hope u get the front end soon. Be safe. "The Swede"
Thank You. I do have a room full of stuff that I see as wonderful. A lot of it is seemingly nothing. But when I mix it together...
@@pacificmike9501 maybe it is as good/fun as an art museum 🙂
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If you"feeling a little bummed out, watch Pacific Mike put a few rare parts on his project bike. He doesn't even mind a few suggestions from the peanut gallery. Here's one, " Mike, try to use a six point box wrench on those nuts and bolts (and NEVER pliers, channel locks or vise grips."
Box wrenches, although the correct tool for the job, don't do so well on something that's required to be pretty. They knock the chrome off the points.
I didn't know that but I can see that it makes sense. I still feel like it was OK to post my
mistaken comment. I'm looking for your next video , as usual. PS I love rare parts..Froggie
This made me remember Snap On (or another mfg.) came out about 10 years ago with a
socket or box design that put no pressure on the corner of a nut or bolt. It was slightly relieved in that area and put the pressure on the flat area just next to the corner so the fasteners do not become "wrench worn."
Notification bell gang 🤘
Awesome!
hello mike its me leroy im still with you
Hello Leroy
Sweet!
Thank You.
My first Pan was hand shift. I was 20
Fun stuff.
Nice!
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Bob Ross of bikes
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I am currently working on my rocker clutch install and this video came out at the right times! Will you be doing the foot board install soon as well? I’m needing some visual help with all that too! Thanks Mike!
I'm not really there yet, but look at videos we've done in the past. I'm sure I've shown it on "Babydoll", my little red Panhead.
Thanks Mike your the best. I've learned so much about my pan from you. The biggest thing I'm learning is patience, which you are the definition of!
Mike gotta a question for you, and I can't afford one of Palmers books. Ok got a wishbone frame in my 58 Dad must of liked to go fast lol. No year on top motor mount. The horn mounts are only tacked on and the tool box mount is in the shape of a parrelogram not sure how to spell that. Uno a rectangle leaning to the right or left. Also set up for a side car. I'm thinking a 53??
Let me know when you get the chance.
Thanks Mike
All of these things sound stock. Wishbone frames were made from 48-54. All of those frames had horn brackets welded to the downtubes and kidney shaped toolboxes. They all came with sidecar brackets. A chopper was a bike that you "chopped" all of those brackets off of.
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Thank you didn't know if there was any way of pinpointing the year of the frame. Nothing was chopped up or ground off. I know 58 was the first year for the duo glide which had rear shocks. Back then they were all titled after the engine numbers. It's a 58 in a wishbone frame. Probably never know exactly what year the frame is. Love your channel and thanks again
Nice.
Thank You.
Mike, how about a video removing and riveting on a new rear sprocket?!
If I had the tool, I'd show it. I'm afraid now days I just replace the whole thing or have it welded, which is really the best.
@@pacificmike9501 thanks and keep up the good work!
Mike I go back and realize I have been following and commenting for almost two years. I still say not many can say they have worked on flaties, knucks, pans, shovels and evos. I know when to ask a master for help. My issue is a 76 shovel ratchet top set up jockey shift. The clutch engages as soon as I start letting off. I can't feather it or ease out. I've adjusted as far as clutch plates are happy. Please point in some direction
Check the throwout bearing, pushrod and center adjusting screw. It's a pain, but you need to be sure they're in good shape.
We Really like watching your videos. I wonder what your parts room looks like! Do you have a video showing it? What frame is the project bike?
My parts room is an old "root cellar." It is a mess, although it is separated "categorically." I had a shop at one time, so I sold off all of my late model stuff, that you can buy anywhere, and kept my ancient treasures. The frame is HD from the late forties and was originally either a big Flathad, like I'm building, or a Knucklehead. They used the same frame. This frame has been straightened and corrected and is actually quite nice. About all that isn't good about it is that someone, wanting a custom bike, removed the tank and speedometer mounts. Cool. they wouldn't work with what I've picked out for her anyway. My parts room is my private vault.
@@pacificmike9501 Cool thanks!
Mike....I sure like a HD "rocker clutch" assembly. I own a nitrous knucklehead (2x easyrider champion) and even used one on it! (long vintage rectangular foot boards)The "suicide clutch" is not for me! Thanks for the vid....walt...tulsa,ok
You know, everbody got a different foot. I like rocker pedals . Some people can't stand 'em. Some people can only ride with a suicide pedal. Just habit I guess. Working in shops for many years, you just get used to all of it. My buddy "Knucklehead Junior" drag raced Knuckles and set a record or two back about a dozen years ago with the AHDRA in Chandler Arizona. If you want to look it up, his name is Arthur Hendey Junior. I got involved in his racing with him and it was a lot of fun. He ran in "Syntec Class" with a rather large displacement Knuckle, then years later, with a bigger one.
Hey Mike, I was watching one of your old videos where you were installing STD dual-plug heads on a Shovelhead. If I'd want to go to dual plugs on my '77 Shovelhead, can my stock heads be modified, or would it be best to purchase after-market heads. My heads are the early short-reach plug type with a row of even fins down the centre.
Yes, Shovelheads can receive a second plug. I suggest a knowledgeable shop to do the job. We dual plugged my original 77 heads back in the early eighties. I don't know where you live, but a shop that has built a jig and can do it, is not that uncommon. One you could ask would be Dave Mackie Engineering in Ventura CA.
Seems like the spring would pop off
Nope. The pedal is stopped by the footboard to the rear and the footboard bracket in the front. There is always tension on the spring, so it easily stays in place.
Very interesting video. I remember hearing horror stories about the rocker clutch pedals from the "old timers". They said it would suddenly engage the clutch, and send them into traffic. Supposedly, that is where the term suicide clutch came from. Sounds like a lack of maintenance to me. What are your thoughts????
A suicide clutch has no way of keeping it engaged or disengaged. The only springs at that point are in the clutch assembly. Therefore, it must have a foot to keep it disengaged.
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I have a 1996 fxdwg. It has the square backbone. My rockerbox is leaking but the bolts to remove it is to close to the backbone. Can i take the front motor mount out and lower the engine to get to it?
Yes. That is the way it's normally done.
Hey Mike , well finealy I found out how to respond ! To old for this compuiter thing ! Anyways ,been riding my 1973 shovel for 36 years now and chopped it up many times . Now I instald a footcluch pedal like in your film, everything fits right but the cluch arm hits the starter. I understand by adjusting the pushrod in the cluch you can adjust that . But I have problems adjusting the foot control ! no heel down to toedown spring control ! and also I thought you should not have the cluch pushrod under teansion . I looked at all your films the mousetrap came as close but still aint it ! Hey bro , me a big fan , yours Fed Admiraal from the Netherlands
Yes sir. Do not want the pushrod tight. Must be a little endplay or, you'll burn up the rod and the throwout bearing.
Understand Mike ! but besides that how do I set the foot spring lever control to smoothly go from heal down disengaged to toe down fully engaged ? I cannot find the sweetspot without bending the rod ! Thanks for your respons you are a inspearation to my ...Fred from the old country the Netherlands !
Hi Mike, great video! I was curious how they went together. Would one of these rocker clutches fit on an evo softail frame?
It should. Hooking it up to your trans is where it gets a little complicated.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike! I appreciate it
What kind of tires on the flat 80? Radial or Bias-Ply? Your worthy opinion counts!
I believe they are bias ply. They are Continental. They are considered
"vintage." They produce them specifically for older bikes.
NICE! Doesn't that pedal hit you in the back of the leg when you are riding with your foot on the floor board?
No, it's clear up front. You'll see. It's a stock Harley setup from when things were made to fit people. Even if they have huge feet, like I do.
Mike, l think your getting to popular. I've been hit with a Disney and a chips commercial. More power to you! Your a perfectionist and that build is going to take alot of time. We all know it. And thats COOL. I do have an off topic question for you. I have a 70 to 78 harley manual. It states FLP police bikes vin prefix is 1A. But I see alot of police bikes on the internet (that look authentic and have a good story) with a 2A prefix. What gives?
That one is one I don't know. If I couldn't ind it in a service manual, I would call the factory.
Hi Mike. I’ve been following this project bike with great interest. I’ve got a question I hope you have time to answer. I was going to put together a Frankenstein bike, basically a mutt made up of parts I’ve been collecting over the years. I picked up cheap, a 1982 FLT frame, not my first choice (but cheap). My question is, I know they used a very rear set triple tree. Would a standard wideglide front end work on it? I’m not too familiar with these kind of frames. And again, thank you for all you do.
That is what's commonly referred to as a "self centering" front end. The fork trees are designed to hold the legs behind the fork stem. The legs are standard 41 mm. However, the fork head on the frame is set way forward. You'll need to use FLT triple trees. But, if you can find a swap meet, a lot of people have been changing those original type FLT trees to some really wild units in order to install huge front wheels on these bikes. In other words, the parts you need may not be too hard to find.
Mike, one more question...could I use a regular (non-centering ) wide-glide front end with this FLT frame, if I didn’t mind the funky exposed gooseneck? I don’t want to do anything dangerous here, like a high speed wobble. Thank you for your time.
Mike quick question. After I set up my clutch and pedal the way I want do I bend the lock washer to the adjusting nut?
There is no locktab on the clutch pedal.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike
Hi Mike! Quick question. My rocker clutch disengages itself when riding, should I adjust by tightening the nut that holds the spring facing in? Thanks, I really enjoy your vids.
I can't see it. That's strange. I don't thing you're describing the problem very well.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks for replying! Apologies I was not clear. I am talking about the nut that holds the (unnamed) spring that goes on the shaft (at about 6:14 on your vid). Hopefully adjusting it will prevent my clutch from disengaging itself when riding...If not, I wonder what could be the problem
Hey mike Isaac here are coming to sturgis next week?
No, I'm afraid not. Have a good time.
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Heya Mike ,not sure ,but is that the same thing my uncle use to call a mouse trap ? gonna look awesome all on there shined up .
No, a mousetrap is actually a clutch booster assembly for a hand operated clutch. Look through our videos where we show how to properly adjust a mousetrap. Thank You.
@@pacificmike9501 will watch next ,thank you .
Hi Mike, maybe a real stupid question. Can I fit a rocker clutch on my 88 Evo Springer? Ive had the bike for over 30 years but I have a badly damaged left wrist and the clutch operation is painful. Cheers from UK.
You will either need an earlier throwout bearing cover so you will have external linkage or make up a clutch cable to operate that clutch.
Noticed that the shift arm on your transmission is clocked up toward the rear instead of clocked down toward the front, is that something particular t this build, or is it just not set-up yet?
One goes up, one goes down. First gear at the front. First gear at the rear. Panheads were the first one with first gear at the rear. You slid the handshift lever forward from there.
@@pacificmike9501 thanks Mike, looking at the gate differences, it makes sense
Do you have issues with Registering these bikes?
No. Not if you start with legitimate paperwork.
Hi Mike, my name is Paulo, I'm Brazilian but now I'm leaving in New Zealand. I bold an FLHTC 1989 ( Electra Glide ). Ok, my question is: the BDL (open belt drive clutch) is a good part to put on my bike or the original is better? My one leek a lot and the other one is so style. Thanks for answering me,
It's just personal preference. I don't know that one is better than the other for that application.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks mate. Your videos are so nice. Thanks for the amazing job.
Slow and steady as she goes... She's gonna be a great motorbike.. Are you putting a sidecar on her?
Probably not. Maybe some day.
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Ohhh Mike..you are a savior..there are so many events I wanted to attend...Orygun run..run to raton..Sierra stake out...Carson rally...ect..ect..went to the sac swap meet..hardly anybody there..but you help with your bike build. Thank you. Your awesome Mike. P.S. whats your thoughts on Sturgis as its going to happen?
Thank You. I feel by doing this on video, I'm staying in touch, or at least letting people know I'm thinking of them.
Mike, are those old flatheads foot clutch only? I thought hand shift came in during the knucklehead era. Or am I in error? Also, what does that friction disk do for the clutch pedal?
When bicycle pedals went away, bikes came with hand shifters and foot clutches. In 1952, Harley introduced their first Big Twins with hand clutch and footshift. Their first foot shift models for smaller bikes were the XA 45" opposed twins for WWII. I believe that was in 1944. Yes, all the old bikes were foot clutch and handshift.
I forgot you asked. The friction disc gives resistance so you have more precise movement of the pedal with your foot.
@@pacificmike9501 Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you could order hand shift up to about '78 at least police departments could.
Mr.Mike, I notice all your motorcycles are have spoke wheels.. is this going to be one also? I have a 72 shovelhead and I have the mag wheels. I always have to put air in tire when I’m about to ride. I got new tires but still happens. I watch your videos and you have non mags wheels. I know it’s porious (the mag) so I think I might change to spoke any thoughts?
I've got quite a few videos up on wheels. Go to our RUclips homepage and look at "videos." The differences in wheels just come down to personal preferences. I build a lot of spoke wheels. Cast wheels are usually trouble free. If the tire is losing air, it might be from the valve. That's the place to start. Try a little soapy water and look for bubbles. If that's not it, it might be porosity. If that's the case, then I usually install a tube. But, I think it's obvious I'm a fan of spoke wheels. I have a Centerline made Harley wheel on the rear of my Shovelhead. My reasoning is to run it tubeless, so that I can plug it if need be, on the road. That bike is getting a sidecar, and it makes good sense. Those are my "wheel thoughts" for today.
Do you use jp cycle parts
Most of the suppliers sell reproduction parts made by the same people. Most of the stuff is the same stuff. I deal with several companies.
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So Mike, don't know if I'm the first to ask but is this bike going to be up for sale when it's all said and done?
Not a chance. I hate to sound selfish, but I'm retired. My goal has always been to retire and build my own toys for myself. Now officially living the dream. It's not always easy to make happen, but I'm doin' it.
Right on. Kinda thought that, that's the answer I was going to get. No harm no foul
Any good way of adding a rocker clutch to a shovelhead?
Sure. Use all stock or stock copies. What year Shovelhead? The right clutch arm for a foot clutch, the right length rod and decide what kind of shifter you want.
Its an 81 flhs frame with a 4 speed rotary. I have a rocker clutch kit from v-twin. The rear bracket appears to need to be cut off and the new cable bracket welded on. I’m not sure how to bench test the rotary top trans before I continue with the build. I’m a 30 year old army mechanic (91b) veteran, this older Harley stuff is all new to me though
I've not put one on a rotary top. I suspect you'll need to fabricate a clutch arm. Look in the service manual for your bike and notice the measurement between the clutch arm and the top of the trans. Build an arm that reaches almost to the inner primary housing. The shape of that arm will require some creativity. Then you'll have to fit it to a clutch rod to fit from it all the way to the clutch pedal. Otherwise, you'll need to fab a cable for it and fab up some ends. This will take some doing. Not impossible. Testing on the bench with a rotary top is not easy. They are hard to shift, at best. I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news, but it will require some "trial and error."
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hi Mike do you have one "rocker clutch" pedal assembly for sale ?
I occasionally sell stuff at the swap But, sorry, I don't have one of those to part with. V-Twin (Tedd Cycle) out of New York has nice reproductions. Or, just type in what you want, on your computer, and one will come up.
@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike I will do that
Any idea what them parts are off of?
Sure, old Harleys. I'm sure there are some suble differences that could idetify the exact years. I don't know all of those differences.
@@pacificmike9501 FYI There were a couple early foot shift brackets with short supports then went to a long support and finally bushed the long support with a grease zerk. For purists there is a '40 only bracket.