Not surprised Ray and Susaye slept together. Why you think they were the “Raelettes”??? They said “you have to let Ray…” 😂 RIP Flo. 💐 Mary buying a mansion while still broke. Gurl!!! And her and Duke? *Howling* 🥶
Nay, I just needed you to describe the Hancock Park Mansion -- 22 rooms including seven bedrooms, wood paneling throughout, a Sherlock Holmes library, and a Scarlett O'Hara staircase -- definitely not the house you buy when your husband is broke, and your career is not popping.
I mean ... who doesn't live beyond their means? Half the country is probably behind on either a mortgage payment or car note. Everybody wants the status symbol, even if they don't have the actual bank to finance that status. In Mary's case, she had it at one time. I can only imagine how difficult it would be to have it, then slowly lose it even though you're fighting like crazy to get back to where you were. It was probably a way of convincing herself to keep going -- the mortgage had to be paid.
@lecuyerdooley1084 I get your point, but this was something well past living beyond her means. Mary was already living beyond her means before purchasing the Hancock Park mansion. You already know how all of this worked out over the next two years.
@@Tes7000 I mean ... being Supremes really affected how Flo and Mary approached their lives post-Supremes glory. No matter their actual financial circumstances, both of them lived refused to see or to consciously live in that reality. Flo basically gave up on finding a different way to support herself after her solo career was sabotaged. Still, she lived in a house she could no longer afford until she had to be put out of it. Mary was buying mansions when what she earned was only enough to pay debts already owed. It's hard to give up on a self-image of a star when you've tasted how sweet it can be.
Seriously, after 15 years as a Supreme, Mary couldn't update the show herself? She had all the music charts and choreography for all the hits, but I guess it wasn't in her awareness at the time to cut back on some of the show tunes and expand the hits. Change the set order, work in a solo for each lady, add exactly one new cover or standard, throw in a mid-show gown change, and bam, they would have had a new show.
only because men in the WEST are NOT dating or marrying. MANY finding success outside the U.S/the passport bros. Kevin Samuels tried to warn y'all, that winter was coming.
Mary was with the foolishness, going to see hotboy Duke knowing Penniless Pedro was insecure. She was so slow. And why would Thelma Houston want to join the barely surviving Supremes? 😂😂 Have a great day everyone
I can't imagine what Pedro was thinking in suggesting Thelma Houston for the Supremes. He wasn't thinking about how you cast a group and what would be needed to replace an _almost_ foundational member who had been with the group for 8 years. With Thelma Houston, you would have had three deep voice heffas that would have had the Supremes sounding like the Pointer Sisters.
@@lecuyerdooley1084 True, but The Pointer Sisters already owned that lane. The Supremes were already a legendary and very familiar thing, and Pedro's goal in replacing Cindy should have been keeping the Supremes in their very recognizable _aesthetic._ 😝 (I know you hate my using that word -- just joking.)
@@Tes7000 The problem was that familiarity thing. It was 1976. The record-buying public had moved beyond that Supremes sound of the 1960s; Diana Ross certainly wasn't making music that sounded like her work with the Supremes. "Love Hangover" is miles away from "Baby Love." The Supremes sound evolved, too. The High Energy album showed what this new group could do.
I see a lot of the BAN-ness in Pedro's relationship with Cindy too. By every account, she is one of the nicest women a person could meet, so how odd is it that Pedro couldn't get along with her yet managed to get along with her replacement, who was definitely more outspoken and independent.
Pedro was wrong. The Supremes weren't dead in 1976. In fact, their first album that year, High Energy, charted higher than any Supremes album since 1970, and "I'm Gonna Let My Heart Do the Walking" went top 40, their first in four years. They released the album Mary, Scherrie, and Susaye the same year, a case of too much product in too short a time. But I have no doubt they could have continued on, just as the Temptations had, and found chart success here and there.
There is a difference between better and good. Overall, Pedro was wrong about a whole lot of things, and if there was a better future for The Supremes, he wasn't the one to figure it out just like he couldn't for a Mary's solo career.
@ High Energy was a good album. Any objective listener will come to that conclusion. Like any album in the 1970s that wasn't a Stevie Wonder album, it has a few filler tracks, but it's a strong effort for the Supremes.
Mary ignored every red flag Pedro waved in her face before she married that loser.
It’s like she’s asking to get her a** beat, the moment she told Pedro that she was going to see Levi. Really Mary ??
@@KelarRivera She in Flo’s shoes in marrying sorry a** men, At least Flo found out the hard way after she said I do..
Not surprised Ray and Susaye slept together.
Why you think they were the “Raelettes”??? They said “you have to let Ray…” 😂
RIP Flo. 💐
Mary buying a mansion while still broke. Gurl!!! And her and Duke? *Howling* 🥶
@@timmy841212 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nay, I just needed you to describe the Hancock Park Mansion -- 22 rooms including seven bedrooms, wood paneling throughout, a Sherlock Holmes library, and a Scarlett O'Hara staircase -- definitely not the house you buy when your husband is broke, and your career is not popping.
I mean ... who doesn't live beyond their means? Half the country is probably behind on either a mortgage payment or car note. Everybody wants the status symbol, even if they don't have the actual bank to finance that status. In Mary's case, she had it at one time. I can only imagine how difficult it would be to have it, then slowly lose it even though you're fighting like crazy to get back to where you were. It was probably a way of convincing herself to keep going -- the mortgage had to be paid.
@lecuyerdooley1084 I get your point, but this was something well past living beyond her means. Mary was already living beyond her means before purchasing the Hancock Park mansion. You already know how all of this worked out over the next two years.
@@Tes7000 I mean ... being Supremes really affected how Flo and Mary approached their lives post-Supremes glory. No matter their actual financial circumstances, both of them lived refused to see or to consciously live in that reality. Flo basically gave up on finding a different way to support herself after her solo career was sabotaged. Still, she lived in a house she could no longer afford until she had to be put out of it. Mary was buying mansions when what she earned was only enough to pay debts already owed. It's hard to give up on a self-image of a star when you've tasted how sweet it can be.
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Seriously, after 15 years as a Supreme, Mary couldn't update the show herself? She had all the music charts and choreography for all the hits, but I guess it wasn't in her awareness at the time to cut back on some of the show tunes and expand the hits.
Change the set order, work in a solo for each lady, add exactly one new cover or standard, throw in a mid-show gown change, and bam, they would have had a new show.
Pedro was a terrible man. This is why women are by themselves
only because men in the WEST are NOT dating or marrying. MANY finding success outside the U.S/the passport bros. Kevin Samuels tried to warn y'all, that winter was coming.
Mary was with the foolishness, going to see hotboy Duke knowing Penniless Pedro was insecure. She was so slow. And why would Thelma Houston want to join the barely surviving Supremes? 😂😂
Have a great day everyone
Slow or slick? Didn't Florence once say that she would rather deal with Diana than Mary, because Diana was honest, though she was mean.
I can't imagine what Pedro was thinking in suggesting Thelma Houston for the Supremes. He wasn't thinking about how you cast a group and what would be needed to replace an _almost_ foundational member who had been with the group for 8 years. With Thelma Houston, you would have had three deep voice heffas that would have had the Supremes sounding like the Pointer Sisters.
@@Tes7000 And yet ... the Pointer Sisters were Grammy winners at the time ...
@@lecuyerdooley1084 True, but The Pointer Sisters already owned that lane. The Supremes were already a legendary and very familiar thing, and Pedro's goal in replacing Cindy should have been keeping the Supremes in their very recognizable _aesthetic._ 😝 (I know you hate my using that word -- just joking.)
@@Tes7000 The problem was that familiarity thing. It was 1976. The record-buying public had moved beyond that Supremes sound of the 1960s; Diana Ross certainly wasn't making music that sounded like her work with the Supremes. "Love Hangover" is miles away from "Baby Love." The Supremes sound evolved, too. The High Energy album showed what this new group could do.
I see a lot of the BAN-ness in Pedro's relationship with Cindy too. By every account, she is one of the nicest women a person could meet, so how odd is it that Pedro couldn't get along with her yet managed to get along with her replacement, who was definitely more outspoken and independent.
Yes, that is exactly what the other Supremes must have been thinking -- where is the money for this coming from?
pedro fell in love with the mansion. so she bought it.
Pedro was wrong. The Supremes weren't dead in 1976. In fact, their first album that year, High Energy, charted higher than any Supremes album since 1970, and "I'm Gonna Let My Heart Do the Walking" went top 40, their first in four years. They released the album Mary, Scherrie, and Susaye the same year, a case of too much product in too short a time. But I have no doubt they could have continued on, just as the Temptations had, and found chart success here and there.
There is a difference between better and good. Overall, Pedro was wrong about a whole lot of things, and if there was a better future for The Supremes, he wasn't the one to figure it out just like he couldn't for a Mary's solo career.
@ High Energy was a good album. Any objective listener will come to that conclusion. Like any album in the 1970s that wasn't a Stevie Wonder album, it has a few filler tracks, but it's a strong effort for the Supremes.
But the songs of later years were good. I checked on RUclips. I don’t know why they had to die off.
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