@@projectpitchfork860 this is wrong, japan would have batteries in it's armies wtf, ofc is not to the german level of bringing a 150 mm gun, but a light arty is better than nothing, at least arty 1 or 2 to their tech is good, but nothing? It's just bonkers
@@esequieltrindade9244 It's actually right, Japanese artillery was non-existent with the 75mm designs being the most produced but not even hitting the double digits. The war was very much a strain on Japan as they had to figure out what was more pressing to make with the little resources they had. Even their small arms production was a risk and it's amazing they managed to field the Navy they did, even if they couldn't afford it.
There should be a mechanic that allows one to win via defensive war if at least allows you to peace out like if your nation inflicks a certain ammount of damage on the enemy units or ships the combat will stop and the war would be over i think that would be fair.
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This sounds like something that makes too much sense.
Disaster save from Hiro84848HitoxX he said everything was going so well and he was destroying the chinese but then the americans started attacking and half his navy dissapeared, so lets try to fix this guys!
Americans and British watching as their entire war fleets get sunk by some ragtag Japanese ships from 10 years ago: "They've got to run out of ammo eventually, keep throwing hulls at them!"
@@crazyduck156 Yeah but they only did that one time instead of the one billion times that it happened in the video. If the US and the UK were so reckless with their fleets like that for the entire war on the Pacific Front they'd be negotiating a ceasefire with the Japanese in less than a year's time of fighting them (due to the loss at Midway, the siege of Hawaii and the Subsequent bombing of the West Coast)
Tbh it was like this in real life. Japan wanted Siberia's resources but the army sucked so hard at fighting that they switched focus to navy and getting resources from south
@@sh-kq4ro “Poverty of spirit, which believes that Hitler is sufficiently grateful to be bound by a promise. Poor Neville Chamberlain believed he could trust Hitler. He was wrong. But I don’t think I’m wrong about Stalin.” ~ The fat, drunken chainsmoker
37:46 - Loses Supply Hub to Tank Division - Attacks Back - tank Division has 0 org and bubble is Green 95 - bubble goes up to 96 - "We have no hope of getting that back everyone evacuate"
You should do a coop endseig with a player on Germany and another on Japan as the main turning point is when one falls it frees up a lot of units for the allies. Maybe chaotic florius.
If you keep your troops around the port(s) in Manila and Luzon the Americans almost always leave only the Paratroopers in the northern port, and if you get the two remaining units in Mindanao to hold the strait the Americans almost never break through. You can reasonably hold the phillipines for a long while. Borneo can be defended and dug in if you move troops from the other Indonesian islands esp if you have the scripted naval invasions on. With a cheeky last stand and a withdrawal from some of the other nonimportant islands (such as the ones not needed to remove the bombing spirits, holding Iwo Jima/Okinawa etc) you can beat back the scripted naval invasions and get the Setting Sun down quite a lot. The only thing is that China has Sinkiang so (and I tested this) even if you occupy all of their other land they BARELY hold on in Sinkiang... Also the Soviets CAN be held back but it's a nightmare and if you lose Mukden and other parts of Manchuria you're pretty much hosed. doing the border forts focuses helped a good bit but with such low equipment it's still a tight thread.
I still think it's crazy that Ichi-Go technically worked but they never were able to get supplies to go through China bc of all the infiltration in the countryside.
I love how in HOI4 you can do things like reduce the American Pacific fleet to basically nothing & take a massive swathe out of the Royal Navy and that still doesn't change how aggressive the AI are with naval warfare also I thought the the game didn't actually list naval losses with the casualties in the war report, meaning those 500k were just from sheer AI stupidity.
By the way even if you take very single chinese province in mainland china, they still dont capitulate because you need to take the provinces behind Xibei San Ma which there is no supply in that area so its impossible...
I don't really play HOI4 despite enjoying YT content of it. But I do agree that it's something that needs to be fixed that the massive debuffs can't be removed no matter how much ass you kick. Though the sheer madness of the Allied navy is honestly sensible. There was a ridiculous disparity in industrial capacity and thus naval replacement.
Love the content brother steel. For guns maybe try to slowly build up a production of the cheapest guns. Yes I do know they are shit and make your bad troops worse BUT you can reduce the deficit and MAYBE build a few more to shore up the coast and home islands.
You should have about 90 days from the fall of Germany before the Soviets declare war and invade Manchuria, if the game follows the real sequence of events.
The mod has been slightly updated for japan, as of yesterday. Change nodes say added arty to japan OoBs and experience. Haven't looked deeper, but I'm hoping for debuff removal/reduction to be in there too.
What if you turtle at the start of the game, pull back as far as you can. Stockpile guns and equipment. Stockpile planes. Focus even more on the navy. Aquire complete, uncontested naval dominance. Move from there.
This game resumes in the next Mexican phrase : Me vas a ganar pero nada te va a quitar los madrazos qué voy a dar. 💪 Nice video, we got peak content with this one
I'm hoping the next big DLC is Japan and Navy focused. Japan was the reason the US entered WW2, yet their focus tree is smaller than the generic focus tree....
I have a question Couldn’t you try to use Japan’s mechanic when you give more power to military and get some buffs for military factory production but debuffs for dockyards. Like you already had a fleet which won every battle
Man, tbh, the starting mills being so low is more than enough of a penalty, terror bombing is kinda lame. Also Japan has some artillery, even if it was outdated.
My emperor, strangely there are 3 suns in Empire of Japan now
Japan is just that great
@@Bitt3rSteelMy emperor, i went you and watched the sky at the clouds! But i saw mushroom clouds, is that normal my emperor?
land of the dropping sun
"My emperor, can it be that the war has not neccessarily developed in our favor?"
Lmao this was the funniest
"did we got nuked? omg we got nuked twice" -Hirosteel
Japan in this mod is like a cat on a beach trying to build a sand castle to survive a tsunami.
Coudn't find a better analogy to put it, especially when you can't fix any of the debuffs
No artillery, no kempetai, but concentrated and dispersed industry and scraping the barrel. Huh.
Broken mod
100% accurate historical japan
Concentrated and Dispersed? What is Japan doing? Concentrating on dispersing the industry?
Neither
A bunch of dispersed clusters with highly concentrated factories in those clusters.
Its a bug of the mod
Isolated megafactories
the best of two worlds.
These hour long videos are such a blessing of content brother. Between your family and us goblins, we really appreciate you🤝
Glad you like them!
@@Bitt3rSteel We DEMAND more 1h+ videos! (ik its time consuming but man i really like it)
It’s crazy Japan doesn’t have artillery in this mod.
Post Leyte Gulf Japanese Logistics
Real life japanese artillery also mostly didn't exist (for the army). And those that existed were almost all 75mm.
@@projectpitchfork860 this is wrong, japan would have batteries in it's armies wtf, ofc is not to the german level of bringing a 150 mm gun, but a light arty is better than nothing, at least arty 1 or 2 to their tech is good, but nothing? It's just bonkers
@@esequieltrindade9244 It's actually right, Japanese artillery was non-existent with the 75mm designs being the most produced but not even hitting the double digits.
The war was very much a strain on Japan as they had to figure out what was more pressing to make with the little resources they had. Even their small arms production was a risk and it's amazing they managed to field the Navy they did, even if they couldn't afford it.
If you think that's crazy, in the vanilla 1939 start they dont have any either.
Admiral Ozawa carrying the entire war effort on his shoulders there.
Bro is Japanese Admiral Yi fr
Man is playing Azur Lane
Bro is the lebron James of naval warfare commander
He’s building the ships single handedly
"all they have to do is deal with China" is basically what Japan thought for like a decade 😂
They bombed the us pacific fleet because the US "wasn't letting them invade china properly "
There should be a mechanic that allows one to win via defensive war if at least allows you to peace out like if your nation inflicks a certain ammount of damage on the enemy units or ships the combat will stop and the war would be over i think that would be fair.
This sounds like something that makes too much sense.
Like in stellaris when every camp will keep control of the land they occupied?
War exhaustion technically allows you to capitulate an enemy without taking any VPs, bht it is really not an intended mechanic.
Eu4 type peace deal
It's not historical though 😂
1:19
Japan in 1945 apparently had 0 Artillery, Anti-Air or Anti-tank in the army. Insane historical accuracy
Lol like actually insane historical accuracy
@@jaredjosephsongheng372no
US HQ after winning the war: We won!
but at what cost.. (remembers the all of the sunken US ships)
One of the realistic things about the outcome of this video (honestly its too realistic for my liking)
Disaster save from Hiro84848HitoxX he said everything was going so well and he was destroying the chinese but then the americans started attacking and half his navy dissapeared, so lets try to fix this guys!
19:23 that's not him dying, that's him winning his 4th term
I tried Seelow Heights Japan once. As in, I loaded the game, looked at the situation, said "I'm screwed," and alt+f4'd.
Funny how you still have the Fuso which was sunk in 1944,but not the Yamato,which was still afloat untill august 1945
Edit:I wanted to say April 1945
and the Mutsu, which blew up in 1943
@@magnum6763 Junyou should also be in repair queue
Yamato sank in April.
my jp naval brain kicks in here.
yamato was afloat until 7th of april 45.
august were the nukes i believe
Yes, but it’s probably for balancing reasons
Americans and British watching as their entire war fleets get sunk by some ragtag Japanese ships from 10 years ago:
"They've got to run out of ammo eventually, keep throwing hulls at them!"
Uhhh they're Americans and British, not Soviets.
They aren't the type of people who say "When a battleship falls, two shall take it's place".
@@jaredjosephsongheng372then you have not met the hoi4 AI
@@jaredjosephsongheng372*stares in sinking of the Bismarck*
That was text book "you sunk one ship, heres a fuck ton more to ruin your day" by the RN
@@crazyduck156
Yeah but they only did that one time instead of the one billion times that it happened in the video.
If the US and the UK were so reckless with their fleets like that for the entire war on the Pacific Front they'd be negotiating a ceasefire with the Japanese in less than a year's time of fighting them (due to the loss at Midway, the siege of Hawaii and the Subsequent bombing of the West Coast)
For some more pain you should try surviving as poland in magna europa.
Nah in Blackice 👍
@@Polska_gamerra black ice style magna europa mod would be the purest form of hell
@@rogueemeralddont give the crazy modders a idea
This run be like:
Japanese Army 👶
Japanese Navy 🦍
Tbh it was like this in real life. Japan wanted Siberia's resources but the army sucked so hard at fighting that they switched focus to navy and getting resources from south
40:49 Recovered rare audio broadcast from Hirohito in 1945:
LOL 😂😂😂
I didn’t even notice he got nuked and then is promptly never nuked again
This mod doesn’t allow AA or air superiority to counter the terror bombing??? It just there? Forever???
New editor or style? I like it. Done very well. Keep it up :)
Agreed! Maybe he’s trying to spice it up a bit
Just confirmed, new editors
@@jakeplayz_ytofficalew
I may be a simple man, but I like the talking cat representing the viewers in the beginning. That made me chuckle.
Agreed
0:57 Bitt3rSteel confirmed smarter than Winston Churchill.
@@sh-kq4ro “Poverty of spirit, which believes that Hitler is sufficiently grateful to be bound by a promise. Poor Neville Chamberlain believed he could trust Hitler. He was wrong. But I don’t think I’m wrong about Stalin.” ~ The fat, drunken chainsmoker
37:46 - Loses Supply Hub to Tank Division
- Attacks Back
- tank Division has 0 org and bubble is Green 95
- bubble goes up to 96
- "We have no hope of getting that back everyone evacuate"
Yeah, it's was getting reinforced with Infantry from one tile over. I saw it moving in
You should do a coop endseig with a player on Germany and another on Japan as the main turning point is when one falls it frees up a lot of units for the allies. Maybe chaotic florius.
Yes, I get it. There is no decision to turn debuffs off, but since you lasted one year, just turn it off manually and finish the game..
Bittersteel: It’s impossible! There’s too many planes, ships, and enemy units!
Tojo in 1945:
thank you bettersteel for making long videos and a very relaxin voice so i can sleep while watching ur vids keep up the great work
This really needs to become a world record, this is the most painful start date and situation you can find in hoi
If you keep your troops around the port(s) in Manila and Luzon the Americans almost always leave only the Paratroopers in the northern port, and if you get the two remaining units in Mindanao to hold the strait the Americans almost never break through. You can reasonably hold the phillipines for a long while. Borneo can be defended and dug in if you move troops from the other Indonesian islands esp if you have the scripted naval invasions on.
With a cheeky last stand and a withdrawal from some of the other nonimportant islands (such as the ones not needed to remove the bombing spirits, holding Iwo Jima/Okinawa etc) you can beat back the scripted naval invasions and get the Setting Sun down quite a lot. The only thing is that China has Sinkiang so (and I tested this) even if you occupy all of their other land they BARELY hold on in Sinkiang...
Also the Soviets CAN be held back but it's a nightmare and if you lose Mukden and other parts of Manchuria you're pretty much hosed. doing the border forts focuses helped a good bit but with such low equipment it's still a tight thread.
51:45 "I've sunk the Enterprise!!!" 😂😂😂
It’s not even sad, it’s magnificent.
I think if you survived to 1946, you deserve to have the debuffs turned off.
You trying to close the sea zones and let supply go through china is actually what Japan tried to achieve in real life
I still think it's crazy that Ichi-Go technically worked but they never were able to get supplies to go through China bc of all the infiltration in the countryside.
@@totalwar1793 it was pointless anyhow. How are you going to realistically produce something with those raw materials when the firebombings began
hosho sinking half of combined allied fleets is something i never thought i would see
damn, i really like these more edited videos, good to see your channel changing for better
Yeah, this need a rework
Thank you for the amazing videos! Especially the futurama clips ❤
I love how in HOI4 you can do things like reduce the American Pacific fleet to basically nothing & take a massive swathe out of the Royal Navy and that still doesn't change how aggressive the AI are with naval warfare
also I thought the the game didn't actually list naval losses with the casualties in the war report, meaning those 500k were just from sheer AI stupidity.
I miss that one patch several years ago when they made AI so busted Germany trashed most players.
By the way even if you take very single chinese province in mainland china, they still dont capitulate because you need to take the provinces behind Xibei San Ma which there is no supply in that area so its impossible...
*Now we know who won the Army-Navy rivalry in Japan.*
"Did I get nuked?" Is a phrase I've never thought I would hear.
I don't really play HOI4 despite enjoying YT content of it.
But I do agree that it's something that needs to be fixed that the massive debuffs can't be removed no matter how much ass you kick. Though the sheer madness of the Allied navy is honestly sensible. There was a ridiculous disparity in industrial capacity and thus naval replacement.
Bruh having both concentrated and dispersed is literally 75% free buff to factory output and more than outweighs the negative modifier
Doesn't outweigh construction debuff.
so glad i became a member and now im able to enjoy another bittersteal 5 star meal of a viseo early :)
India gets a railway from a 70 day focus from the vanilla focus tree lol
you are actually insane (liked the cat gifs more of them pls)
Love the content brother steel.
For guns maybe try to slowly build up a production of the cheapest guns.
Yes I do know they are shit and make your bad troops worse BUT you can reduce the deficit and MAYBE build a few more to shore up the coast and home islands.
No artillery is fr crazy
48:39 There's an East German Division in there! 😂
You are a savior I just got in the car and saw you uploaded now i have entertainment for a hour
Watching hoi4 while driving is mental
@@doomsdan9486I suppose it’s better than playing hoi4 whilst driving though.
Dw i wasn’t driving
You should have about 90 days from the fall of Germany before the Soviets declare war and invade Manchuria, if the game follows the real sequence of events.
21:20 a strike force without a patrol fleet is useless tho. You either send them all as patrol or you split off some spotting cruiser to patrol
It projects naval supremacy
I love the new editting style!
The mod has been slightly updated for japan, as of yesterday. Change nodes say added arty to japan OoBs and experience.
Haven't looked deeper, but I'm hoping for debuff removal/reduction to be in there too.
The mod has been updated so you can get rid of bad modifiers.
You could have added maintenance company in the start when the chinees had equipment and then remove it when they run out
Bittersteel in the historically accurate late-war Japanese situation. This is gonna be fun to watch...
I like this new editing style 👍
What if you turtle at the start of the game, pull back as far as you can. Stockpile guns and equipment. Stockpile planes. Focus even more on the navy. Aquire complete, uncontested naval dominance. Move from there.
This game resumes in the next Mexican phrase : Me vas a ganar pero nada te va a quitar los madrazos qué voy a dar. 💪 Nice video, we got peak content with this one
0:58
Not gonna lie that edit was smooth af
And funny
Now it's time for the best mod crossover, black ice and seelow heights
I could never last as long as BitterSteel in this scenario.
The Navy doing there last dance to empress the Emperor
Wouldn't it be better to have the ASW as convoy escort? That puts them mostly to combat subs and reduce convoy casualties.
Your content is awesome man.
Glad you think so!
Hey bittersteel ur a really good hoi4 player and I recently downloaded it because of u and I’m having a lot of fun
That naval game was lit. Try again without the debuffs, can you beat the allies and the soviets? Would be super cool to see
The destroyer Yukikaze survived despite everything just like she historically did.
This mod is really realistic. The Americans pretty much were building ships faster than Japan could sink them.
pro strat: let americans land and with their industrial might let them repair your industry and then retake it
Seems like this mod/scenario needs a little fine tuning still compared to the Germany version.
But still a fun concept to see how long you can last.
If only there was a BICE Endsieg. Even playing as the Allies then would be a struggle.
I'm hoping the next big DLC is Japan and Navy focused. Japan was the reason the US entered WW2, yet their focus tree is smaller than the generic focus tree....
44:44 Bitter really leaning into the historical Japanese roleplay.
turn it off when you have complete air supiriority
Great Video with much suffer but enjoy your way to got the most of it
The crying about losing convoys is extremely historical
Hmm, for the emperor?
I think i’ve seen this one before…
A Bitter Steel upload? Means a nice a day
I think when the Germans surrendered you should've allowed yourself to remove the debuffs.
I like the new editing!
It would be cool to see a multiplayer game and see if you have a competent player in Germany if you could hold then.
If he only had had the +5% stability and war support.
I'm commenting to help with the algorithm! This video is good! I like this video! Awesome video! Great video!
I have a question
Couldn’t you try to use Japan’s mechanic when you give more power to military and get some buffs for military factory production but debuffs for dockyards. Like you already had a fleet which won every battle
i finished this scenario with the debuffs on by abandoning the main land.
This is old version, and an old video the missons have been in the mod for a few weeks already to remove the debuffs.
He says that in the video.
Bittersteel,did you hire a new editor?
Wait is this from the Livestream Bittersteel or a whole different one??
This was off stream
Okay that makes sense and you got hoe'd badly.
Authentic Japan experience.
Man, tbh, the starting mills being so low is more than enough of a penalty, terror bombing is kinda lame.
Also Japan has some artillery, even if it was outdated.
not being able to get rid of the debuffs is kinda stupid ngl
I hope you will also cover the Minor Axis Nation of Endsieg and even the Socialist Republic of Italy
My left ear followed the orders, my right ear tho
Thought this was gonna end in a seppuku
The Soviet Union edit 😂😂😂
Nice Video
hows the new update for gotterdammerung