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Army selects Vortex for Next Generation Squad Weapon - Fire Control. What is it?
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2022
- The U.S. Army Selected Vortex to provide its Next Generation Squad Weapon - Fire Control Optic (NGSW-FC XM157; XM-157). But what is an NGSW-FC? What is Vortex’s new scope replacing? What weapons will it ultimately sit on? What features/capabilities does it have? What is Active Reticle™? What is Intra-Soldier Wireless? How do the features work? With this much tech built in, is it durable? How was it tested? Is it easy to use? Where will the scope be manufactured? What are the overall implications of our nation’s warfighters having this technology in their hands? Alexander Lewis from Vortex’s secret-squirrel sector answers these questions and more (as much as he is allowed by law). Listen in to get the scoop on this revolutionary smart scope!
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I can’t wait to buy a “found” one on ebay from a specialist in 4 years
My buddy "found" about 10 acogs when he got out 8 years ago. Paid off the rest of his car
@@heypistolero quit dry snitching.
I'm sure they'll make a civvy model neutered abit and charge us a nice dime for. I'm actually pre saving for it now 🤣. I suggest u do too so we can cry less when the time comes.
Congrats Vortex! I work at a gun counter and have sold more vortex than anything else. Most people that "don't like" vortex always argue "they don't have any military contracts so how good can they actually be".
They've had military contracts for a while now, the razers have been in use for quite some time
Some of these gun snobs are some of the most annoying people there are.
No militarily contacts is sometimes a good thing lol
I just wont buy anything of theirs thats made in china. As someone whos lived there and went to school there, i can honestly say, screw china. Im fine paying more for japanese made or american made.
spiff rewards galore lol
The thing that blew my mind was the ability to use range and direction info to send target information to other soldiers via ISW… a crazy good idea that I imagine can come in very handy!
Really good to see our military has chosen Vortex, I love my V scopes which have changed peoples minds after shooting my rifle, Go Vortex 👊😎
Still loving my Vortex Viper along with a half dozen other vortex optics. Great job guys!
Happy to hear it! Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation!
Incredible tech! Congrats Vortex.
Does this mean Vortex will actually make their scopes in the US now.
It’s a requirement for US government contracts. No part can be sourced from another country.
I thought the razor HD AMG was American made?
I was happy to see Vortex get this contract. I run a Razor on my AR and my buddy runs a ACOG. One day I bragged about how I love my scope and he was like “yeah but Vortex isn’t good enough for the military like my Trijicon.” Now I can say-yeah it is.
They were probably the lowest bidder.
military contracts are not the flex people think it is, just means it was cheap and held up to some mediocre standards
Congrats Vortex! You certainly deserve this!
Thank you! We appreciate the support!
For civilians, maztech and magpul are working on an option for us. I hope vortex is able to do the same!
Congrats Vortex, my Pops and I use each a pair of your regular binoculars, superb optics.
Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation!
Just bought a vortex red dot, magnifier, and LPVO.
works great for those with astigmatism, new fan
Congrats Vortex! You guys deserve it for the amazing quality glass you produce!
Very cool vortex. I hope I can buy one someday I love my pst2 but would buy this in a heartbeat. I couldn't imagine how much better this will be
I love the price to quality relation of Vortex! Same quality as our german scopes, way more affordable!
Very Cool scope !!!!!!!!!!! I absolutely love my Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x24mm BDC3 reticule. Congratulations on the Military contact, Vortex !!!!!!!!!!
Thank you! We're honored for the opportunity. Glad you're liking the Strike Eagle! That's a solid optic!
Congrats to you all!
I absolutely love my Vortex Venom, a big plus is customer service with Vortex is top notch. Very excited for this new sight.
Yeah, I picked up the venom for my bench rifle after having several others mounted.... And as long as I can afford them, vortex will find home on a good portion of my firearms. Good, quality product, at a price that no others can contend with.
Always happy to help!
@@VortexOpticsUSA what would really help is a few more optics for my other friends in the safe... Or a big shipment to drop into inventory when I open my shop. I would love to be a dealer for you guys.
Great project from Vortex! 👏👏👏!
Very nice. About time you get a contract. I own multiple vortex optics. Best warranty around and bang for buck is solid.
This is the only part of the ngsw program that matters and is actually worth it. The legacy weapons couldve just been converted to 6.5 creed and 6 arc and called it a day
True. Being able to press that button, hold over, and snap a 1 shot hit is the key, and being able to communicate the same ballistics info via ISW is truly next generation. But still. Military industrial complex go bbrrrrrrr
Sure they could but why? The 6.8 is just way better. Sadly SIG won, General Dynamics rifle was better
That is awesome!
Awesome! Congratulations, Vortex! I'm so happy that it is USA made, and that it is upgradable elegantly.
Oh and congratulations 🎉,I love your products.
Thank you!
Good work Vortex!!! I hope your production goes smoothly... mainly so your release of this scope to the civilian market is sooner rather then later 😂
Thank you! We're excited and honored for the opportunity.
Got to get me one of these once they are available to the civilian market,awesome scope
This optic is going to change the game in the same way the acog did. This is a huge leap that brings multiple systems which previously stood alone and combines them into one easy to use package fit for almost any solider.
Congratulations!!! That’s an achievement
Thanks! We're honored for the opportunity!
Consumer price $10000… Congrats though vortex you guys do make great products and deserve it can’t wait to see it come to consumer market because I’m no longer in that sector.
Thanks! We're very honored for the opportunity.
Thank you for sharing
You bet!
Well done Vortex they are awesome have them on my mk18
Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation!
Wow!!!! Real cool shit
Nice congratulations vortex
Thank you!
Great job and Technology 👍
How do you mask the laser and IR from enemy detection?!
Unfortunately we can't disclose those kind of details. Everything in this video and the podcast about it is really all we're legally allowed to say!
Fascinating. Out of interest would a potential countermeasure to the laser range finder be a soldier mounted laser detector? This would at least give the soldier a very short warning that he was being targeted and maybe hitting the ground would make the difference. Or would there be a way to disrupt or deceive the range finder? I know that there are counter measures (both passive and active on armoured vehicles) So these could be downsized for personal use just like range finders have been downsized.
Maybe the shooter with the Vortex could range on an object at the distance of the target and then aim at the actual target without the laser operating (if the target has personal laser detection). I have seen vids of laser guided tank missiles where they aim above the tank so the tank's laser detection doesn't detect it then drop the laser down on the tank in the final phase so its detectors can't react in time. Similar principle. So maybe it will depend on training and technique. Or you could have fun and watch the enemy drop to the dirt every time you range on them but don't shoot. Or have a separate laser system with a broad beam and set off all their personal laser detectors. Then they switch them off and then you shoot some. Then they switch the detectors back on. Rinse and repeat. Starting to get a bit complicated. I'm guessing now that a personal laser detector would be useless against an enemy who knows what they are doing.
A sensor array around a helmet could determine the approximate direction of the incoming laser. Helmet because it's very rigid, so the position of the sensors relative to each other doesn't change, and it's usually the most exposed part of a soldier.
For jamming, you could go for directional or omni-directional systems. Both have their pros and cons.
Where will this fire control system and its components be made?
-- What's the suggested MSRP on that, if/when you start selling them to civis? Are there any demo videos showing the optic in operation available?
We don't have a price at this time since it isn't available to the public right now. We don't have any videos showing the optic in operation.
@@VortexOpticsUSA -- Understandable. Thanks for the reply anyway.
@@MarkJacksonGaming You bet.
Will these be available to civilians @vortex
Will this optic be available to the other military branches as well as law enforcement SWAT teams?
Oh it's only $20,000 a piece? Sweet!
Thank you for keeping ours safe in target state.
Expandable Interface, aka the Army's favorite word: modular!
I think than you miss an important detail, this I think, is posible to use like a night vision IR aiming point. It’s already have the IR range finder with a bottom activation 🤷🏻♂️
Shame that you aren't releasing a commercial version soon. Magpul announced at Shot Show something similar.
Congratulations on the contract, but fuck that thing sounds like big money. I hope there will be a civilian variant.
I just got my first Vortex 1x4 x 24 LPVO, that is on my Ruger 1895 45-70 SBL , Probably should have got a 1x6 but the 1895 is only good for about 150 yd anyway
So this is like that rifle combo accupoint?
Will you export these optics too?
I’ll believe it when I see it in our armory..
Do they have to use 20 rnd mags too?
Made in the USA. Unconditional lifetime warranty. Excellent functionality. No brainer.
When will this be available to consumers?
I'll take 2.
Will Vortex release a dumbed down version of this optic. Like a Razor Gen 3 1-8x30 FFP with the reticle like what is in the 1-10
Time will tell! Unfortunately we can't disclose too much as to what's coming down the pipeline, but we'll let our NPD team know that that is wanted!
How much will this optic be?
It isn't what DARPA has, but it is a big step up for the soldier in the field. This will help every unit to be more effective.
Next develop one for the .50 cal sniper rifle.
Did they say anything about battery life? Because I really hate having to carry a bunch of heavy loose batteries in my gear to begin with. PAS-13 are the worst
When can I buy one from you?
Grats
What is the Federal Contract price per unit? ie This is public informamtion
Will this be available for civilians and how much???
It's possible it will be available to civilians in the future. Right now, we want to make sure manufacturing is in a good place with the Army as demand is expected to be very high. Once that happens, we will be reevaluating the civilian market and its availability to the public!
I want one so bad
👏👏👏👏🍻
Feel free to run with this idea vortex, for the additional attachment to the front of the optic, a device that transmits shooter aiming points along with all tagged locations to a tablet, battle manager, commander, or friendly vehicles could be an indespensible asset! Its applications could range between after action reports and precise corections during training, to coomanders and battle managers having a greater idea of where combatanats aare located in relation to troops!
Soldiers could have an ISR platform overhead marking targets that appear in the huds of all or just releveant soldiers.
If this comes to fruition, I apologize to all Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, & Specialists who will inevitably face micro managing to some degree.
This system will be the IVIS of individual squad grunts.
Where do I place a deposit for an order?
Considering the cost to the Army is $10,800 per unit I can't imagine this optic is going to be very accessible for the civilian market.
contract agreement: $2.7 Billion, ordering up to 250,000 units over 10 years so $10,800. I'm sure this includes provisions for the accessories he mentioned as well as maintenance.
I just want to see one in use lol.
How much and will this make me a better paintball player?? if yes, I will take one in Royal Blue.
This thing is going to cost a LOT
Sweet now we need this in a hunting optic ASAP!!!! LMAO
😒
How much does it weight and how long is it?? Honestly looks heavy.
….no way that the weight and length are classified info for part of NDA.
Can't wait for my optic to be down because they're updating AKO
Are civilian versions being considered?
Methinks the engraved reticle is from Germany, the source of most engraved reticles, civilian and military.
How much for one of these bad boys?
They aren't for sale to the public at this time, but once manufacturing is in a good spot with the Army we will reevaluate it's availability to the civilian market.
I wish I would have had something like this when i was in... LRF, LRD and an overlay??? bruuuh I would've stayed in just to use this optic
Please bring this to the civilian market!
Anything the military gets the people should have access to.
Agreed.
Will this be available to the civilian market or will it be a neutered version.....
At this time it is not available to the civilian market. Once manufacturing is in a good place with the Army we will revaluate its availability!
When can we buy one?😎
At this time it isn't available to the public, but once manufacturing is in a good spot we will reevaluate its availability!
I can tell you about the expandable interface but not how much it weighs…lol
Why laser rangefinder, why not digital optical interformentry for rangefinding. Its on a lot cheapo digital cameras now. You laze a target, they can be alereted by their laser warning body mounted sensors they wear or soon will. You use optical interformentry no warning but you still get your range.
Great... right at a time when civilians need it most and it’s only supplied to ‘the others’...
Fuck I want one
It’s all about the U
instead of weaponizing the military why don't you do that for the american people as well
I've always recommended vortex over PA. Vortex made their micro prisms and no one said a word. Why is PA so hyped? Better advertising. But, I do like both companies. You can't go wrong with either. We're getting "call of duty infinite warfare" real quick.
There are, in my mind, a number of “issues” with the militaries requirements here. It might be better to spend more time on marksmanship training with an optic that weighs less than 2 pounds than to try to cram all this crap into a heavy monster. I still cannot find if the total weight of the unloaded gun is with or without the 2 pound optic. Its possible to use reticles for range finding. In combat often simpler is better.. They are in no particular order, rapid over heating due to the suppressor ( I think of Hector Cafferata’s account of his Medal of Honor action early in the Korean War his account is in a DVD sometimes available from CMP call Americas Rifle), to much weight, 80000 psi operating pressure effecting barrel life (this is in excess of current proof levels which is 67500 for 7.62 NATO and 65000 for 50 BMG) will this increase with a hot barrel, like maybe hot enough to light a cigarette off? One of the men in the platoon one fine day shot an m-60 until he had to wrap the forend with a flack jacket and then melted the flack jacket. So sometimes heat is an issue. Suppressors are notorious for heat issues and then changes in impact point. Is the ammo REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY lighter then 7.62? Bullet weight is within 7 grains, powder charge must be too since the case has the same capacity, the case itself? We don’t know they only tell us its “lighter” they will not give a number. Is the 8.4 pound rifle weight with or without the 2 pound optic? Finally. The cost. The M4 costs about 700 bucks. If some PFC loses it it costs him 700 bucks. If the XM5 is lost or run over by a truck etc etc. How much does it cost the PFC? The civilian model is 8 grand. I bet the military optic alone is 2-3 grand.
So I like the heavier caliber, especially for the belt fed, I think the suppressor is going to cause issues if they get into high volume of fire “problems” as has happened in the past. We may not always be fighting in a place where the contact ranges are relatively long and supporting fires and air can help. When the contact range is 20 yards or less you simply have to shoot it out and having an overheated firearm is not going to help here. Suppressors also make for a very dirty firearm extra crap in the barrel and gas system. Time will tell but I am not optimistic. I was Army Infantry 1970-71 and I heated up a firearm a few times.
The gen 3 razor alone is $3,600. I would estimate this scope is going to be more like $5k for the base optic and then at least that for the computer unit that sits on top. So that replacement optics package is probably in the neighborhood of $8k-$10k
It can survive a Mk17, it's a durable scope
Great. Now we get a 300% price increase on vortex products.
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Will civilians get this?
All tell and no show. Some show would have been nice. I hope the end users like it.
This will be about 5k. Lol I better start saving now.
You find it on sale somewhere?
@@davidandrus323 army’s paying 7k a unit or something like tgat
That has to cost more than the new rifle.
Probby about the same as the rifle itself. This is common with super high end optics, you know.
. . Answer these questions and answer them HONESTLY.
. . Does this scope have a GPS system?
. . Could it possibly be used by an enemy force (hacker) to track US forces?
. . Will it be made in China?
Top tier optic made 100% in USA……TAKE MY MONEY!
The Army contract is $10,800 each......😢😢
Disappointed that it went to company that makes most of its products in the Philippines and China
Taliban gets free GEN3 nods but you can’t buy this scope.