Dressing up a 1740s woman, middling sort
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- Next one in the series! we saw the posh 1740s stuff, ot for something a middling status woman would wear in the era...enjoy!
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I am always in awe of how people recreate such beautiful gowns. All that effort it goes into it hand stiching. Such talent.
Am currently working on an 18th century men's shirt (that deliciously poofy pirate/vampire shirt), fully handsewn, and can say it's been 4 days (the first one was just preparing the fabric, so if you just count sewing time it's three days) and I just finished the first sleeve, and the other is less than half done 😆 Bernadette Banner, from the tutorial I'm following, did hers in a week, so skill will increase your speed, I'm definitely still feeling my way with the needle, but it's still quite the time commitment. It's turning out amazing, though, so I'm enjoying the ride, and I don't mind taking the extra time to make sure it's as neat as my learning fingers can make it 👍
Makes you truly understand how in the days of old clothing for nobility or royalty would take months to make, and the value such items actually had, more than just the expensive silks. In today's world of fast fashion it's easy to think of clothes as disposable, but when you spend a week on a single shirt you're definitely more reluctant to damaging it.
I am really liking these middle class videos--I use your videos for book research often, and it's very useful to know what the more modest class would wear. Could you show us some more on men's clothing, too?
I always prefer the attire worn by people of the middling sort, regardless of the era. In general, I find it is more attractive than what the poor had to get by in, and less ridiculous than what the rich wore. Not surprisingly, I would be prefer to be "of the middling sort," affluent enough to have comforts, (and to, G-d willing, never go hungry), and enjoy the occasional luxury, but still doing most of my own work in my home and garden.
Me, I'm the middling sort too!
Absolutely agree!
This is my favorite era for clothing! It looks supremely practical, beautiful, and comfortable. I adore the silhouette, and lust for the pockets! I like the cap, and think it would make hair care so simple! I love the stays, and envy the bust and back support they would give! How can an average/intermediate sewer, plus-size woman go about making such stays for herself?
I'm by no means a sewer, but I think you should look up a) RUclips videos on the art of 18th century corsetry, and try to find a pattern, and /or some extant stays to base yours off. I think Megan Donner was making a series about making her own stays, if I'm not mistaken
ruclips.net/user/Morgandonnervideos and good books such as the Patterns of Fashion series by Janet Arnold.
You might try the duct tape method if you have a friend: wear a tshirt you don’t mind sacrificing then have them strap you in, completely covering areas where the stays would be. Try to do it tight with your girls lifted/arranged in the silhouette you want, then they cut you out along where the seam lines would be. This gives you a starting place for a pattern that will fit your body rather than a pattern made to fit someone else, but you will still need to trace it out on paper, straighten out the lines, adjust for period shape, etc. I like to make a mockup in cheap canvas to make sure I have the fit right then use it as lining or sewn-in interfacing. You can order a lot of the notions (like steel boning that holds it’s shape better than polyester) online. Try Lacis in Berkeley, CA
I guess women didn't wash their hair as often as we do now, (no shampoo only soap, harder to rinse away and no blow-dryers!) so the linen cap would stop hair grease getting on the more expensive hat. I agree, the clothing has a very flattering silhouette, very womanly and charming.
I'd love to see more videos that are more about middle and lower class attire. I use your videos as a reference for the way clothing was structured in the past when I'm writing a fantasy-based setting and this is very informative!
I have been doing family history...love how these videos give an insight to the ancestors lives, thank you xx
In many cases, there are practical reasons for various items rather than an imposition of someone’s ideal.
I’d much rather wear middle class clothes than upper class clothes in pretty much any time period
It’s so frustrating to see historical garments with pockets of some sort and yet modern women’s garments seem to treat pockets as an afterthought.
It's to sell purses. I just buy my pants in the men's section. Often slightly pricier, but better materials (they last longer), better fit (they know clothes are supposed to fit the body, not the other way around), and pockets where your phone actually fits, and a few other things. (Also, have you ever wondered why "women's" wallets are so ridiculously bulky, when a much smaller "men's" wallet will fit just as much? Again, it's to sell purses.) Once worn they mold to the body, and literally no one can tell they're from the other side of the store unless you tell them. Or if you prefer skirts there's plenty of tutorials on how to add pockets; most store-bough skirts can accommodate at least one at one side. I did it to a favourite skirt (I followed a tutorial from Bernadette Banner, a wonderfully eloquent fashion historian here on YT), and recommend it. If you have some spare fabric and can sew a more or less straight line you're good to go; it's on the inside, no one will see, it doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to _be_ . And depending on the skirt, you can get away with some REALLY BIG pockets that can nearly stash a whole banquet (although bigger pockets will probably need some reinforcement so as not to pull on the fabric and distort it, but an average phone-sized pocket will not have much of a problem).
@@biblicallyaccuratecockroach I do the same (I'm quite tall) and I've found the prices to be LOWER, and the materials are sturdier (so much less innner thigh rub in men's skinny jeans). Their pockets fit a whole cell phone!! (Then again I have also stocked up on jackets that have like 25 pockets on the inside for travel purposes as well.) This is, I realize, not helping at all with historical garb, but I'm working on that as well...
It's REALLY easy to extend jeans pockets, there's some very helpful online tutorials. Skirts - Bernadette Banner has tutorials on adding skirt pockets, UNIQLO skirts often have pockets, and being a semi-decent seamstress myself (sewing classes are the best money I ever spent tbh) I'm seriously considering if I can sew a 1950s-looking skirt that will work with an 18th century pocket. I'm dead serious, I have an 18th century pocket kit from Sewstine
Fantastic! And no padding/hoops - looks very easy to wear!
Modest but of good quality, comfortable and pretty - that's the way I like to dress. :D
I am so jealous of the size of those pockets!!
Always love these videos so much, I just wish they were filmed in landscape 😭
One of my favorite pieces of classical music. Thanks for showing a middle class outfit, it’s interesting to see what everyday people of every class would wear instead of just the rich/high fashion/royalty.
These videos are awesome. I love videos about period costumes. I enjoy seeing the various parts of an outfit and how they are put together. I also enjoy finding out why things were done a certain way.
I'm always amazed at the gorgeous fashions. The quality of the work that goes into these creations is just phenomenal. Thank you so much!
I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE this channel ❣️ I do adore the 1700's and other eras as well but the details are fantastic! Corsetry and the skirts and the corset covers etc. Just my thing and I'm very grateful ❣️You look amazing and feminine and very pretty ❣️
Nice to meet another member of the costuming community, and to see the sort of thing that our sort might wear.
Your work is a piece of art, milady 😍 Please, continue this beautiful work.
Beautiful, as ever. Although it did make me laugh that stays were worn "uncovered" at times, yet a little cap was necessary for modesty!
Madcat Lady of course a modest woman would have used a kerchief to cover her bosom...
I wonder what the "ho" clothes of the period would have been. From what I read, they wouldn't necessarily be skimpy clothes just clothes that were a little too flashy for the occasion.
Many years ago, I loved going to Renn Faires in costume and I have to say that bodices are amazingly comfortable! No straps falling down, no underwire digging in, no riding up of the band. The few minutes it took to lace up the girls was so worth it! 😁
Thank you for another wonderful video, Izabelle! That style looks very much like what the ladies would have worn in the Colonies at that time, too!
Beautifully done gown! I _love_ seeing garments that would be commonly worn by what we now call the "middle class". I think that is why I have always loved Johannes Vermeer's paintings (though he lived in the preceding century to the period showcased in this video). And completely hand-stitched too!
Noticed in particular that the pockets were separate and went on before the petticoat.. Which was made to accommodate them. Love all these details!
Great video, as always. Just finished reading Adam Bede, which takes place in 1799. Most of the people are artisans or well to do tenant farmers, so I figured the women might be wearing something like this. :-)
Handsewn dedication and so beautiful
Handstiched the entire thing?! 😶 That's amazing! It's taken me 2 months to handstitch a shift! But I also had to work ..
Its so much harder to find info on the middling sort of this era thank you for sharing
Right! 1710s - 1750s silhouette is still kind of a mystery to me. Wish i found a place on the internet explaining the changes through those decades.
@@lucase9698 fully agree
The color and fabrics used are beautiful. Impressed that it was hand stitched . Wool even when it’s thin and gauzy Is tricky.
Wonder how many women over the centuries lost / dropped pins on the floor or forgot them IN the garments and either got stuck w/ the pins or accidentally STEPPED on the pins on the floor. Q: How many weeks did it take her to make her complete outfit?
I would love so see an outrageous baroque style “Get dressed” video
Rococo France with all the pompadours would be fun to see ^^
Fantastic as usual. I would kill for one of your gowns 😥
Nyx Stephens I mean, she has a store. Hardly need to kill anyone for it
No killing needed, stuff can be purchased in our online shop.
Whilst there's no call for murder, one might need to sell an organ or two on the black market - especially if one lives in Australia. Postage and currency conversion have been the death of many an online order here.
Thank you for correcting me on so. Many untruths that I had in my head. Love your videos.
This is super pretty! It's rare to get a good look at everyday people clothing!
I know it's not so interesting to people, but I would love to see more examples of what the poor would wear, since I would have been of that class had I lived in those times.
Agree!
It would be very interesting, I'd like to see more poor/middle class myself.
Lovely, I like the front lace stays, with my hands as they are these are the only type I could wear.
A wonderful window to the past - but, was also thinking that I am very grateful for zippers and Co. etc. :)
I am in awe of your's and Jenny's skill, and craftsmanship in all of your "costumes" you produce... I put costumes in quotes, because your sewing, dress, and pattern making are so refined, they surpass mere "facsimile" of what came before... These are TRUE garments!!!
Always a pleasure to see a new video from Prior Attire! Beautiful work!
Love these videos
I love watching priorattire videos! They are so cosy. I just have to make myself ignore the word "wool", the one material my skin has hated since childhood.
It wouldn't be as bad for them as their skin isn't in contact with the wool. But for us modern people there is now non-itch wool around :)
@@hrzagen7603 I would take ANY kind wool that didn't make me run for the nearest bottle of antihistamine. Still searching...
@@svetlanalvova1128 I know what you mean! my dad and sister are allergic to wool too, I don't know if it's the same for everyone but for them its specifically the lanolin in the wool that they are allergic to so my sister really has to be careful what makeup and shampoo & conditioner she uses as lanolin is a common ingredient in skincare/beauty products.
@@caitlinhanson8631 omg the lanolin nightmare is real! I am highly allergic to lanolin as well and it is a huge pain having to check everything i buy. I forgot to check my tanning lotion once and it had 3 different forms of lanolin i was miserable for days!
Good quality wool is very soft and comfortable. I bought cheap wool yarn and it itches. Also if you don't use a special wool laundry soap the lanolin (natural oils) in the wool which makes it soft washes out
I love your videos! I've only ever done 1860s attire and it's so fascinating learning about the clothing from other eras. Thank you for another beautifully done vid!
Ok I’m new to your channel and love it! I’m still going through your old ones, but I’ve just watched Mary queen of Scott’s, and was wondering if the costumes are historically accurate? I haven’t seen any videos yet on what royalty wore, and would love to see you do some of those! (If possible of course) 😁
Jennifer Fyffe check out her video on a Tudor lady.
Royalty would have worn the same styles as ladies, but in richer fabrics or colours
Ross Williams thank you!! I will look for that one!!
Love all these videos. I'm continually amazed by all the layers. A thought occurred to me that may or may not have anything to do with this. In this instance and many others pins are used to secure parts of the clothing. Lots of sharp little points all over. It made me wonder if this was the reason for the invention of the safety pin.
I would wonder about that also! Or perhaps because the stays kept a woman so straight, it would be unlikely that she'd be jabbed by a point.
i think safety pins were invented for diapers (but don't quote me on that). i think usually if you tucked the point in toward the stays it wasn't going to stab anyone, the stays are way too thick for a pin to stick through
In French, safety pins are called "épingles à nourrice", literally "wet nurse's pins", so I think they might have been made for diapers !
This makes me recall a little story my mum told me about my grandma, who loved to babysit me. But mum said when she’d get me back, she’d find my nappies near impossible to get off, because grandma was ambidextrous and would do the right pin with her right hand, and the left pin with her left- so they’d both be pointing opposite directions. Apparently it’s difficult to remove a pin pointing the wrong way if your dominant hand doesn’t go that way naturally.
The pins were actually pointed out. Do you sew? If you do, you would recognize the way that pins were used. They were longer and were stitched into the fabric like today's needles are used to draw thread. By the time that the sharp point of the pin was fastened in, it was almost entirely encased in the fabric. Pretty much like having a cloth cover for the pin. It was invisible to the eye and looked like part of the stitching. Much like hand sewing, the direction and length of the "stitching" of the pin was controlled by the heaviness of the surrounding material. In reality, it functioned like hooks and eyes in today's clothing.
Amazing as always!
How did I miss this? Thanks for another tutorial on an 18-century dress.
The original beauty and the beast was published in 1740 ❤️ I wonder if it's accurate to imagine Belle wearing this attire
Hermoso.De lo mas razonable que he visto.Uds usan siempre gran musica para ambientar.Graxss.😃🌹🍃🌹🍃🌹🍃🌹🍃👍
"completely handstitched"! ... (reminds herself that it's what they all did back in the day) This looks so beautiful and comfortable (except for the shoes :D )!
Oh hey, I'm Bach here watching your video.
Absolutely lovely. I especially loved the skirt with 2 drawstrings.
I like how you added the apron at the end.
I wish people still dressed this way. Beautiful.
While it is lovely, it isn't exactly convenient for a lot of modern tasks. It certainly wouldn't do in a lab environment.
shammy dammy True.
great video thanks so much i just love all your videos !❤️❤️❤️❤️
So pretty! Thank you for posting this :)
I love the look of stays
Would you be as so kind to do a short video close-up of the pins and how and where you place them? On all the garments you refer to them. I am not able to visualize the size and length and manufacturer and what direction the point goes...sorry to sound like I'm a character out of "Going Postal" .
Nice video.I'm making a robè à la française, and I would like to know if the kind of front lacing of the gown that you're showing in the video would be suitable for that style as well, since I've only seen it in some english gowns.
I think she wore a robe a la française in the 1740s lady video but it could be a battante (?)...
Naurah Deatrisya Gitany it was a battante, but I'll check it anyway. Thanks :)
I'm so lazy I would probably try to attach certain layers together (temporarily) just to save time when putting it on. My current corset is never unlaced, just loosed to fit it over my hips or head.
Fashion has truly gone a long way
This is lovely! So great to see a middle class example.
I've been doing some research for a story I'm writing, but haven't been able to find anything. I'm looking for a design for a woman's riding habit; all the examples I've been seeing were for a princess or high noblewoman doing a gentle trot around the park. I'm looking for the sort of thing that an heiress or widow who had to ride around her estate to supervise workers and call upon tenants, or a spirited young lady who was trying to keep up with her brothers, might wear. The examples of such that I was able to find were from the Victorian and Edwardian eras---nothing from the 18th C. Can you suggest a source?
The book I am working on will have the answers. Look out for The Equestrian Dressmaker in a year or two
Thanks. I won't be giving a description in the story, but it would help to have an image in my mind.
Tell Jennifer she does lovely work, and looks quite fetching in the clothes. 😊
great vid as always! quick question how do you maintain these gorgeous pieces anyway? i’m curious on how you clean and store them so the colours won’t fade easily and how you prevent too much creasing in storage.
What would the stomacher be made from? I have a front fastening dress which "gapes" and a stomacher would be a great solution. Modernised slightly of course but it is what was under the top fabric that interests me.
cotton, wol, silk, linen - dependng on status. often boned too
I don't know what i love that type of sleeve cuff ♡♡♡♡💕💞😍 I love your videos
Another great video!
That lacing x2...wow
Jennifer, thank you for showing us your lovely outfit. :)
All of these videos make me squirrelly with all the layers. I think I would lose my mind if I had to wear all those clothes every day. It almost makes me feel claustrophobic.
Well, you'd be used to it.
RubyOpheliaQuinn....squirrelly is the perfect description.Confining like some Edgar Allen Poe story.Yikes!
I think I might find it alright in winter, but in an Australian summer the layers would be murder - no matter how light the layers were.
My favorite! Thank you!
Did they use hand-knitted garments or accessories (Shawls or scarves)? great video and the complete ensemble is a thing of beauty!
1st viewer and liker here hope you have had a brilliant weekend
@2:56 - that lacing was quite different, like "upon the hunt there is a need of lacing down the needle".
Do you have a male friend who might be willing to demonstrate the men's equivalents?
That's lovely!
Well made and informative as usual :)
I love these videos!
I'm surprised with the front dress lacing underneath the stomacher. I've never seen it before. Is there any source? I'm really interested in that.
Lots of examples of extant gowns and in art- this gown is based in he extant dress in Snowshill collection, pics in Nancy Bradfields costume in detail p 17
Wonderful. Thanks for sharing
IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!!
I LOVE 18,19,20 CENTURY!!!
That's a wide range but I agree!
@@fionafiona1146 thanks!!
@@fionafiona1146 of 20 century I just like 1900-1920
Seeing an attire to wear to church going would be nice too.
It says at :23 that this is the person's "Sunday Best", so this is the church going outfit.
If stays could be worn without dress over the top, and the stats could be laced wider for weight change and pregnancy - what did the stays look like when laced more freely?
Would a stomacher be worn? Or would it just be the stays with the laces, and lots of chemise showing through?
Having with stays before with large front having gap it was very unsightly in the bosom and tummy area - flesh and chemise bulging between laces.
Lovely work!
Hi! I absolutely adore your videos, they're both educational, entertaining and aesthetically pleasing. :)
I think it would be a wonderful addition to have a voice-over of the text, as it would make it more accessible and easier for most people to follow. Hope you take well to the suggestion! Love your channel.
Just curious. In period dramas and other depictions of the period the um “top deck,” is often uncovered. Do you suppose that’s a production decision or a class distinction?
Can be both- but usually films are rather bad at using accessories correctly. A lady’s bison May be shown to an advantage in the eventing ball- but during the day it would be covered to protect it from the sun.
Оригинальный покрой юбки. Спасибо создателям канала. Очень познавательно.
I wonder if this was the hem length in 1700s. Looks bit short. Looks very good overall. Thank you
Depends on where you lived. In the city - probably too short. In the country or on a farm - just right. (Ever wear a long dress when there is dew on the grass? No thank you!)
Hygene or practicality were not the main concern in costumes throughout the ages. They wore fishtail trains in the mud or dust in late 1880s.
it is a working skirt. you cannot have skirts trailing on the ground...
actually, practicality still was very much the thing - especially concering the price of the fabrics. that is why you wear trains only inside, if walking outside you use a skirt lifter. you alwo have guards and balayeuses that attach under the train to protect the fabric.
Another beautiful outfit..could do with a maid to do the tying ,so exhausting lol 😀
gorgeous, what a fine lady
you look like Little Bo Peep I love the color and thanks for that twirl
Thai is not but my friend, Jenny!
@@priorattire Ya know your rite that's not you at all! Next time I'm gonna have to wear my glasses LOL! that enplanes why Merlin wasn't kitty bombing the vid
Please when do the first pockets appear? Thank you.
Wow very very nice and good luck 😘
I've been waiting for this video a very long time!! I've been making my own early 18th century "middle class" attire and PriorAttire was the first place I went for research. Sadly, there wasn't any good material on youtube for the years of 1700-1750, only before or after, so I went straight ahead into the hard primary source research. Nice to check in partway though and affirm I'm getting things right!
I have a question about stays- here they look to sit very close to the sides of the wearer before lacing, as opposed to the front-sides. Is that normal for this period? My stays hang about 6 inches apart in the front before being laced, where these appear more like a foot (or just under) gap. Am I making mine too large?
can be lacd shut, or worn open, or orn with a stomacher - all down to the wearers preference and style
@@priorattire Alright cool. Thanks for the reply! I finally finished my eyelets and found out myself as well that they seem to fit just fine meeting all the way at the front.
I'm so glad to see you don't sew them all!
I wish Claire wore this in outlander
I'm curious as to what they wore at home.. just me?
no no It’s mentioned in the video that sometimes women would simply wear stays and the skirt over the chemise, sometimes attaching matching sleeves to the stays. The outfit worn in the video is the “Sunday best”.
I know this is a late response but usually women wore their chemise, stockings, a petticoat and a pair of jumps which were basically stays without any boning, or a shortgown/bedgown which was a short bodice.
You are amazing ❤❤❤
So interesting! I wouldn’t like to dress like that everyday, though...I wonder if you get pricked but the stomacher pins! ☺️💕‼️
Not really, you would get used to having pins, and likely sink the point into the stomacher itself, with stays even under that, you'd be protected from the pins
Would wearing stays openly on their own not be considered immodest? And what did men wear for underwear - did they have drawers?
It depended on your social class and what you were doing at the time. If you were lower class and working hard, all sweaty, I'm pretty sure nobody cared.
It's not different now- you wouldn't think there's anything immodest of shirtless farmer gathering hay on the field or worker laying asphalt on hot summer day, but what if banker appeared shirtless to the board meeting! :D
The robe doesn't cover the front, therefore the petticoat is visible. I'd never thought it possible.