I bought a TX16S because of your video. I’m a spektrum user so it’s been a learning curve but your videos help a lot! I will say they don’t all come with the two speakers. I got the hall version and bought the second speaker so I could hear it. Made a big difference. I just bought my radio two weeks ago. Mine also just came with a cover
Thanks for the info on the module bay cover and lack of second speaker on a recent Hall. That is interesting! Glad you are enjoying your TX16 otherwise.
The radio that keeps getting better. The mk2 with edge tx really is something special. I have the standard version but have bought the gold faceplate kit and handle as like you have fond memories of the gold futaba sets.
I like bling and don't feel like taking half the radio apart to install it. I have no problem paying a little extra so I don't screw up the radio in the process. My black carbon and red version should be here in a week or so..
Good point about the potential of screwing up the radio by taking it all apart to fit the bling bits; certainly peace of mind value associated with that.
Thanks. Fun radio audio. I am about to receive my first tx16s max. The lowered gimbal sounds really smart as I already like my gimbals at the bottom of the thread. I like holding large body tx but also like small gimbals like a gamer tx. This inset my give me exactly what I want. Fly Great!
Your Futaba Radio there just one or two generations after mine. The overall look is very similar. For MANY years (+25 years), I used the Futaba FP-T4FN-72. It's gimbals were similar to your Futaba, but without the circular features yours have before the square mounting. It's trim's were much more simple- no markings of any kind. The generation before mine looked nearly identical to mine, but the gimbals were just sticks coming out of a CONICAL chrome looking metal surface. Those were the days before stabilization!!!!
Great review. For all of my R/C flying career I've been a loyal Futaba user. Futaba radios link is bulletproof, and the build quality is solid. It has never once let me down, not even a single glitch or brown out. But now I'm looking to switch to the dark side (OpenTX interface with FrSky or RadioMaster transmitter, etc.). It's amazing how much feature they offer for the asking price. I'm also officially mad at Futaba for their overpriced radios and lack of features. Even the high end 18SZ with a street price of $999 still don't have voice assigned switch functions! To get voice speech function you have to move up to the 18MZ at a whopping $2,500 price tag! There are several pilots at my local club that flies turbine jets with FrSky equipment and they seem to have no issue with them. Haven't seen any RadioMasters being used to fly large expensive models yet, but I anticipate no issues.
Bohan..totally agree.Both Futaba and JR have held us hostage for years with their high prices.It looks like good quality and reasonably priced options are getting to us.
I been Spektrum since returning to flying Oct 2019. Starting with a dx6e, then: nx6, nx8, nx10, nx10se (favorite out of all,) & spent 2 freaking grand on the worst tx I've owned n my life (of doing rc since 1977), the 20se. 20se was the biggest pile of 💩 I've ever owned. Battery was DOA day 1. Had to buy a battery to use/register it🤷♂️😬. 2 flying buddies got the 16s 2 weeks ago. I'm the 1 at the field that maiden everybody's everything! Sold me! (& I'm a 100% veteran. I have $$.) My red/cf/leather arrives Saturday. AG01. 4 in 1. Was futaba during my 1st flying session of 20 years. I'll not EVER have anything Spektrum tx.
Basically that's the hall gimbal version with the CNC stuff, the coloured flaceplate and the side grip things. It definitely worth in my opinion if you want those addons, I've bought it when it came out and then upgraded it myself saving like 20$ which, given the amount of work I had to do to disassemble the whole radio to fit the new parts, I would definitely pay to get it installed from factory.
Hi, the recent version doesn't have the project box but it does have everything else that the Max has, including the same gimbals, except the cnc bling. The only thing it may not have, I haven't opened mine yet, is the upgraded switches under the cnc buttons. When you buy the cnc kit as an upgrade it comes with different switches to go under the cnc covers. It may be that the current version already comes with those switches as standard now. Edit: The switches are the same but the top one is slightly offset.
I just received my Blue Max TX16S today. The feel, fit and finish are miles better than my way more expensive Spektrum NX10 . I also included the tempered glass screen protector in that order. Went on very easily and looks great. I took John's advice on the TX 4000mah lipo TX battery and ordered that today. Looking forward to learning this TX and flying with it..
The gimbals being way too high was that one thing that I didn't like about TX16S. So cool they have included those spacers, now I'm just waiting for the order to arrive. Gimbals need to be sunk at the proper distance to give the fingers an optimal movement ratio.
I got the TX16S Basic a couple months ago from Banggood, and it just came with the blanking plate, not the project box. I do seem to remember there being a second speaker inside - ah, yes there was... I remember having to unplug it before the back completely detached. That max edn. really does like nice though.
@@Rchelicopterfun Ok its here! I love it. Seems solid. I grabbed the Gensace 4000mah for it. Thanks again for the help. Now Im going to do the switch swap.
@Vitor Morais - Unfortunately not (at least with my pl-sunglasses). The original Hall version's screen is however PL-sunglasses friendly. I however don't know if that is still the case or if they updated the screen on it as well? Best to ask the retailer if you decide to get either one to make sure.
I found my TX16S with FlySky receivers (specifically FSIA6B) are just as reliable, if not more, than the current premium Futaba protocols. AND TX16S/Flsky combo more reliable than DSMX, and FrSky...
Hi John I just got my new radio master tx16 max. It looks like the change the gimbles that you can adjust them from the outside like the Eachine tx16s I'm trying to send you a photo of my tx. Kind regards Johan
No idea. The screen film on my Horus is a top polarized replacement layer because I scratched the original layer and removed it without thinking; fully, covered in this video along with the link to the film: ruclips.net/video/EwSTCVQzIbo/видео.html As shown in that video, the only way that specific film I used would work on a RM TX16's screen would be if you removed the top polarizing layer of the screen as well. I certainly wouldn't recommend it for obvious reasons. I would think any anti reflective non-polarized film for a computer monitor, tablet, or phone could be used on the TX16s however.
regarding the not supported touchscreen: what do you think about edge tx? before i even got my radio, everyone i was talking to said "switch to edge tx, it's way better than open tx". sadly, because of wind i wasn't able to use it yet. i programmed it for my nano s3 and everything seems to work with edge tx (because of course i switched, even if it's just because it's better to type model names now). can't wait to use it for real thx to the basically identical UI all the open tx tutorials also worked for my for setting dual rate and so
@RadimentriX - EdgeTX has nothing I really want over and above what OpenTX already has. I personally don't care for touch screens on any RC radio. There is nothing worse than greasy nitro goo or pre-mix all over the display so that feature is of no value for my needs. I'm sticking with what works and is time proven as I have too much invested in my machines to risk beta testing unknowns. I'll of course switch to Edge when OpenTX is no longer supported and has been out for a while - but I'm in absolutely no rush to do so.
Hi John. I just ran across your review. Thank you for the information. I’m thinking of getting a TX16 to replace my Horus x10s. Do you think you get the same performance out of the 4-in-1 module as compared to a FrSky RF deck in terms of reliable connection to the aircraft? All my receivers are X8R’s on ACCST Ver 2. I’m just wondering about flying more expensive aircraft with this radio. I have not found much on the web on this topic (maybe I’m not using the proper search terms). The radio definitely checks the boxes for me (OTX, EDGETX, ergonomics). You mention in one of the comments a year ago that you still fly your larger aircraft with your X12. Thanks for any information you can provide. PS, I also have found your boxster videos very helpful.
I don't think the RF performance/robustness of the RadioMaster TX16S's built in Multi-Protocol-Module is lacking in any way compared to FrSky's RF system. I've flown larger helicopters with the TX16's without issue and fully trust it. Keep in mind, large RC helicopter line of sight flying is not as far out as large fixed wing line of sight is. RF range of course is as much RX dependent as TX. I too am running mostly X8R's on my larger birds. I get similar if not slightly more consistent RSSI numbers with the TX16S on the larger helicopters; of course the Horus X12S is not exactly known for stellar RF range & diversity with the built in PCB antenna; which is why I often run it with the secondary external antenna as well. As to why I preferer to use my X12S with all my larger helicopters - several little personal reasons all combining to make it the obvious choice on the big stuff: - I like the feel of it in my hands better. - I like the heavier weight better. - I like the lower sliders on it with nitro & gas engines so I can fine tune the carb idle settings during starting, warmup, and running. - The sound/speakers on X12S is/are fantastic. - Fit's my specific transmitter glove better for winter flying. - And of course the main & primary reason why I got the X12S in the first place is for the the upper display. It's never blocked by my neck strap and on on my larger birds, I do use and glance down at that display quite a bit during a flight so it's very nice seeing all the information at a quick glance over taking a few glances to look around the strap. - As I also demonstrated in the video, I wear prescription polarized sun glasses when I fly my bigger birds, and the polarization blocks out the display on the TX16S (at least on this Max version). Again, most of these are personal reasons, and the primary one (the upper display) doesn't even apply the X10S. Hope that helps a bit 🙂
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks John for the detailed response. It all makes sense. Interesting about the polarized sunglass issue. I also fly with prescription polarized sunglasses and it has not been a problem with my X10S (and probably your X12 as well). You mention that you demonstrated the issue in the video, but I did not see it in this one or your original TX16 review. If it is on another video, let me know. Otherwise I'm good. Thanks again for the information. Watching your Boxster video on cleaning out the radiators just put another to do item on my list :-)
@MrTorquenut - Sorry, I was mistaken on which video I mentioned that in. It was the Eachine TX16S review I did with the section on LCD screen polarization: ruclips.net/video/5mT-S3MhcxE/видео.html (the polarization demonstration starts around the 10 minute mark). It depends on what specific screen they use, but it seems all the newer TX16's (both RadioMaster & Eachine) are not polarized at a 45 degree angle like the original TX16S was, along with the Horus and obviously your X10S Horus as well.
Hi, I am using deviation on devo7e at the moment, do you think I should upgrade to Opentx on T12 pro or TX16S, which will be a good value for money tx to upgrade to if I do, i do not have extremely big hands and am not using the pinching method to control the tx, thanks
Hi John, Thanks for your video of the “Bling Bling” gold Radiomaster TX16S Max. When I come on the field I will have to live with the sneering remarks from the orther pilots. The gold man or Goldfinger, but I fell in love right away. My question concerns the Companion updates. Every time accompanied with the radio software there is a SD card update that often ask for some jugglery for keeping all your settings. When looking to the folder content of the new SD card that must be installed I see a lot of empty folders. Only install the necessary folders I should sudsiest. But live is often not so simple. Probably there are some hidden files. This question must be addressed to the developers of OpenTX. Do you know the right person that I can ask this question or will you be so kind to pop this up.
The "Goldfinger" - I like it! 👍 One of my favorite Bond movies. Anyway, SD card version hassles. Yes, it's a bit of a hassle. I'm not sure where I read this (likely on OpenTX U somewhere since that's my OpenTX bible), but it's not absolutely critical you update the SD card with each companion/firmware update. I will usually just drag the new opentx.sdcard.version file from the updated SD file into my radio SD card to get rid of the wrong SD version warning. I won't do that every time, but I don't see the need to do a full SD card update with every single firmware update. Every 3rd version of firmware however, I do update the card contents since there is scrip in it there that changes over time with the various updates. When I do a full card update, I will replace the image, logs, models, and sound files so I don't lose any of that specific info that is not related to firmware. Just my method of course and others may say it's not the best practice. I guess I'll find out eventually. As for whom to contact to ask specifically... I really have no idea. OpenTX's site does have an "issues" page where people can report bugs or wish list requests so that would be one avenue. I'm sure you can post questions and comments also on Github in the OpenTX section where all the developers hang out (you'll need to open a account I think). I think they (OpenTX) also have a face-book page, but since I deleted my farce-book account years ago, I've never looked.
@@Rchelicopterfun John, Thank you very much for your answer and support. I will be spent some time seduce some OpenTX developers to think about a solution. After my afford it succeeded in changing software for the Garmin road updates. We shoot men to the moon so this can succeed also. Greetings from the Netherlands. Regards: Guus
Hi Jonh! Congratulations for the quite specific videos you have been publishing! I have a TREX 450 DFC running a AR 7200 as well as a TM 1000 for telemetry. Is the RadioMaster TX16S compatible with this setup?
Suggest paying a visit to Multi Protocol. orgs website for protocol compatibility. All Multi-Protocol modules including the one in the RM TX16S support all formats of Spektrum DSM protocol (DSM2 11&22ms & DSMX). So no issues there with the AR7200 - works fine. No idea about the TM1000 (I don't even know what that is). Again, Multi-Protocol .org is a must study site for anyone thinking of getting into a multi-protocol radio system.
Great video, thumbs up. That's said, I have the Radiomaster tx16s and I'm wondering how reliable is on the spektrum protocol!? I also have a Taranis x9D with the original spektrum module, and I'm wondering if I should use that one instead!? If you have any input that would be great. Thanks.
@@Rchelicopterfun Ha ha, Roger that. Well, let me ask you this: How many planes do you have (the real number is none of my business, so maybe you can say a few, or a lot), and how many people do you know that have used the same radio with DSM2/X!? Thanks.
None - I'm 100% collective pitch helicopters - lots (RC Helicopter Fun.com). I know a good number of TX16S users who fly planes, helis & quads on DSM. Of course the only way to know for sure how robust your DSM2/X RF link is with this radio (or any other for that matter) is to use the Spektrum SPM9540 RF data logger. Real data in terms of fades & packet losses on your specific model/s, with your specific antenna placement/spatial diversity/polarization orientation is orders of magnitude more valuable than anecdotal experiences from others. 🙂
@@Rchelicopterfun Well, if you know a ton of people using the Radiomaster TX16s on DSM, and they are not telling you all the time that the TX16s sucks [on DSM], that's great. I am going to take a look at the data logger. Thanks for the input...
I'm old school, still running JR 9XII with DSM upgrade. This radio cost a small fortune in the day. How does the TX16 feel compared to the quality of my old JR? The TX looks a lot of bang for buck
I have no idea since I've never owned a 9X11. Compared to my JR X9503 however, the gimbals on the TX16S feel better (smoother and with Hall effect sensors, more precise over potentiometers), the encoder wheel feels a bit better, the toggles feel a little softer however.
The gimbal recessing rings and (I assume) different tension gimbal springs are nice features. The speakers are a bit much for me tho, hopefully they are mutable, beeps are plenty for my needs.
You can setup OpenTX voice, warnings, activations, conditions, or volume level any way you want. There is haptic warning as well. Gimbal tension is adjusted through the tensioners screws as shown in the original review, the springs in the bags are spares.
@@Rchelicopterfun I've never heard of getting spare springs, but my DX6e the highest end controller I have, lol. I didnt know the were prone to breaking. True haptic feedback would be awesome, from the flight controller to the sticks, but I believe you are just referring to a vibration warning.
ahh I was right, your an old school RC guy, Awesome ! ! ! I has seen your review of the Hantek scope. . . then I see on opening shot an old 7FG model futaba.. I agree with your choice... thanks for the reviee and peek inside... being a proto builder My last was an 8JN with the AM pack.. in the back.. should have known a helo guy.. my last toy was a Blade CP a decade ago.. I wa using these decades ago for ROV testing etc.. to deploy and retrieve telemetry and developing autonomous ROV's "not for Mil." specifically.. hopefully you have a video of this in use... interesting options, how about range ? ? and can custom modulation be programmed or such.. ? just curious if you have tinkered and how it is setup.. with current SDR tech, a vast horizon of opportunity is here.. one radio for many models... awesome.. especially the trim and offset configirations.. thanks again keep up the great work.. a long sailing adventure ahead, I have no interest in mfg drones.. custom only
High John...my only gripe on Radio Master TX16 S was the protruding moving part on gimble..not sure what to call it...part that held stick, I would always hit it with my finger on throttle gimble and accidentally power up model slightly...on spektrum radios it was recessed and round and deeper so never had the problem..so I like the idea of gimble setting slightly deeper in transmitter ...may be why they they offer this choice !...also...ordered the glass screen protector accessory...any special advice or method when installing it ??? Long time fan of you and have some of your Heli E-Books,
I haven't fit the protector yet, but having fit other screen protectors over the years, the most important thing is to have zero dust on the screen as the film is slowly laid down from one side of the screen to the other. Even the tiniest bit of dust will look like a rock under the protector film. I use a little compressed air after cleaning the screen to ensure it's spotless and dust free.
Thanks for another fantastic review! I've been looking at the "max" for a little while now and they do look really nice. My question is this: I currently have a Jumper T16 (with Hall effect gimbals, internal multi-module, and I've modded it to be USB-C with internal charging) and it's so far served me very well. That being said, I don't get a whole lot of time to fly my little helis and I'm wondering if I should make the change to the RadioMaster or just stick with what I've got. Any thoughts?
Very similar radios. However, since I have no experience with the Jumper, I don't know if it has any better or worse attributes over Radio Master? Presuming, all things being equal between the two, I suppose the only reason to get a new one (radiomaster or other), would be if your T16 is getting tired or you simply want a new and different looking radio.
@@Rchelicopterfun I've heard some people complain about Jumper's ribbon cables malfunctioning, but mine have not (possibly because I replaced them when I did the USB-C charging mod? *shrugs*). So far there isn't any appreciable wear on the gimbals, but I don't get to fly terribly often. The only real reason for the upgrade for me at this point is cosmetic (that red and black is really sharp!) and the touch screen (when OpenTX supports it).
@@JohnRSippy I bought a silver TS16S Max to replace my DX6e that replaced my DX6i. The most difficult thing for me was getting used to OTX v. Spektrum. The "curb appeal" of the TX16S Max cosmetically gorgeous. I've changed my sticks ends out for black/silver "umbrella" type, and have a pair of black gimbal faces on the way. The options available to personalize the TX16S with OEM parts was and is a HUGE plus for me.
I'm in the market for a new radio. I need to upgrade my DX6i sincerely bad! Do you still recommend this radio John? I'll be using it with an aligned 550X. I've been watching you for years. Even have your manual that I've purchased I'm guessing 7 8 years ago. You're my one stop shop for anything heli related
If you're up for the learning curve involved in OpenTX - The TX16X is hard to beat in terms of value. More importantly, as I recommend to everyone thinking of making the switch to an OpenTX radio (regardless of brand or model), is to spend a good deal of time on OpenTX University's web site so you have an idea of the undertaking involved in learning OpenTX. Some folks never figure out OpenTX and hate it. Better to find that out before making a new radio purchase. Another must visit site with these radios is the Multi-Protocol website. I have links to both in the original review video I did on the RM TX16S Hall version.
John, do these radios have something similar to Spektrum's model match? So you can't inadvertently use the wrong model selection. Not overly familiar with Open Tx and if the Rx and Tx recognise their own unique binding signature.
Yes they do, by assigning different receiver numbers to each model. If you are not overly familiar with Open TX & Multi-Protocol, there are 3 goto sites I always recommend. First to address your radio match question is Multi-Module.org's site, they have a receiver match page on that site: www.multi-module.org/ That entire multi-module site is loaded with must know information if you want to get the most out of multi-protocol. Next is OpenTX's site to get the basics of the operating system: www.open-tx.org/ An lastly OpenTX University's site: open-txu.org/ OpenTX U will show the operational mechanics of how OpenTX works. It was the game changer for me after I was ready to give up when I made the switch from Spektrum & JR. OpenTX is a big learning curve for many who are used to traditional pre-configured computerized radios. Some hate it, but once you grasp the basic input, mix, output concept along with all the other features, chances are you'll never go back to a traditional computerized radio. I liken it to switching from a Window's or Mac OS to open source Linux), so do your research on those 3 sites before deciding if you are ready to take the plunge in the deep end of the OpenTX pool . Cheers - J
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks John for your detailed reply. I appreciate all the links too. Still slogging away using my JR 9503, but always looking at my future radio. Cheers, Stuart 👍
Not sure I understand your question Gary. If you purchased a RadioMaster TX16S, you must know which model it was during the checkout - no? It will say which model if you look at your receipt. Also on the box. Also just by visually looking at. I must be missing something obvious in your question?
Hi John First want to say thank for video. I'm very interested in buy the radio master tx16s max. But there is a new eachine tx16s that they say are beter but is made by radio master. Have you got any info for me on that. I love tgold one too. Kind regards Johan
I've got a review on the Eachine TX16S coming out on the 2nd of July. It's basically the exact same radio with a few minor differences over the *original Hall* version of the RadioMaster TX16S. Depending on what features you deem important, you may or may not like the Eachine version better. Operation wise however - totally identical radios with the exact same mother boards. *You can't really compare it to a MAX version however* . The MAX version is after all the flagship of the TX16S line up.
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you so much for coming back to me. I think I will go with the radio master tx16s max then. Will whach your review on eachine too. Kind regards Johan from Cape Town south africa 😊🌍
@@Rchelicopterfun Hi John - Ive downloaded the Amber sound package and although its a different voice its not the same funny sounds that you have on your radio. Is there another version of it?
I still love the X12S and use it exclusively for flying all my larger birds. I use the TX16S for all my smaller machines for the convenience; and due to Covid, all I'm flying right now are my smaller birds.
I have the basic black TX16s version with Halls. I wouldn't dare show my face at the field with a bling radio like that. I would be a laughing stock. I think also at the start when you say there are 4 versions of the radio, don't forget there is also the TX16SE version that does not have a full multi protocol module. Some folk buy this cheapest Radiomaster version only to find it does not have Spektrum protocol.
The very first one mentioned (the basic SE), I said it has limited multi-protocol at time index 0:57. It (the basic SE) was recently discontinued however, so that limited protocol issue has thankfully been eliminated. As for color schemes, I'm so glad we have options. Thankfully the grown-ups I fly with keep their subjective thoughts to themselves and even if they didn't, who cares? I outgrew what the tribe thinks back in my early 20's.
@@Rchelicopterfun I didn't know the SE was discontinued. Presumably the Tx12 with its limited protocol options will take its place. I have the tx16s and the tx12 and I enjoy using both of them.
John. Thank you for this great video. I am buying definitly)...(if John liked it.) With this thing you can even stick a servo to a wife's mouth and control when she opens a mouth and when she is not!) Just a joke...we love them the way they are!)
TX16S Max:
- Banggood: www.banggood.com/custlink/Kv3y5rIulc
- Buddy RC: www.buddyrc.com/products/radiomaster-tx16s-max-opentx-multi-protocol-radio?ref=-ptdbz6d-llb
TX16S Color:
- Banggood: www.banggood.com/custlink/K3DR5cI1iN
- Buddy RC: www.buddyrc.com/products/radiomaster-tx16s-color-edition-opentx-multi-protocol-radio?ref=-ptdbz6d-llb
TX16S Hall (Best Value):
- Banggood: www.banggood.com/custlink/Gv3RCv9JgZ
- Buddy RC: www.buddyrc.com/products/radiomaster-tx16s-opentx-multi-protocol-radio-with-hall-gimbals?ref=-ptdbz6d-llb
I bought a TX16S because of your video. I’m a spektrum user so it’s been a learning curve but your videos help a lot! I will say they don’t all come with the two speakers. I got the hall version and bought the second speaker so I could hear it. Made a big difference. I just bought my radio two weeks ago. Mine also just came with a cover
Thanks for the info on the module bay cover and lack of second speaker on a recent Hall. That is interesting! Glad you are enjoying your TX16 otherwise.
RC Video Reviews has a lot of learning video’s on the Radiomaster tx16s
Yes John, I agree your colour version is also my favourite.
The radio that keeps getting better. The mk2 with edge tx really is something special. I have the standard version but have bought the gold faceplate kit and handle as like you have fond memories of the gold futaba sets.
Thanks for making the video. It helped me on my purchasing decision.
Very good review John, I bought the red kit for my tx and I will be switching them out soon. Thanks for showing me how to open it up.
Stunning looking transmitter..beaming with class!!
Great video John. I have the TX16S Carbon Hall gimbals, fantastic Tx, and happy with my purchase.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the carbon.
I like bling and don't feel like taking half the radio apart to install it. I have no problem paying a little extra so I don't screw up the radio in the process. My black carbon and red version should be here in a week or so..
Good point about the potential of screwing up the radio by taking it all apart to fit the bling bits; certainly peace of mind value associated with that.
Thanks. Fun radio audio. I am about to receive my first tx16s max. The lowered gimbal sounds really smart as I already like my gimbals at the bottom of the thread. I like holding large body tx but also like small gimbals like a gamer tx. This inset my give me exactly what I want. Fly Great!
Your Futaba Radio there just one or two generations after mine. The overall look is very similar. For MANY years (+25 years), I used the Futaba FP-T4FN-72. It's gimbals were similar to your Futaba, but without the circular features yours have before the square mounting. It's trim's were much more simple- no markings of any kind. The generation before mine looked nearly identical to mine, but the gimbals were just sticks coming out of a CONICAL chrome looking metal surface. Those were the days before stabilization!!!!
Thanks John for your video review of the radiomaster
My pleasure 🙂
Great review. For all of my R/C flying career I've been a loyal Futaba user. Futaba radios link is bulletproof, and the build quality is solid. It has never once let me down, not even a single glitch or brown out. But now I'm looking to switch to the dark side (OpenTX interface with FrSky or RadioMaster transmitter, etc.). It's amazing how much feature they offer for the asking price. I'm also officially mad at Futaba for their overpriced radios and lack of features. Even the high end 18SZ with a street price of $999 still don't have voice assigned switch functions! To get voice speech function you have to move up to the 18MZ at a whopping $2,500 price tag! There are several pilots at my local club that flies turbine jets with FrSky equipment and they seem to have no issue with them. Haven't seen any RadioMasters being used to fly large expensive models yet, but I anticipate no issues.
Bohan..totally agree.Both Futaba and JR have held us hostage for years with their high prices.It looks like good quality and reasonably priced options are getting to us.
look at tbs crossfire or tracer
I been Spektrum since returning to flying Oct 2019. Starting with a dx6e, then: nx6, nx8, nx10, nx10se (favorite out of all,) & spent 2 freaking grand on the worst tx I've owned n my life (of doing rc since 1977), the 20se. 20se was the biggest pile of 💩 I've ever owned. Battery was DOA day 1. Had to buy a battery to use/register it🤷♂️😬.
2 flying buddies got the 16s 2 weeks ago. I'm the 1 at the field that maiden everybody's everything! Sold me! (& I'm a 100% veteran. I have $$.)
My red/cf/leather arrives Saturday. AG01. 4 in 1.
Was futaba during my 1st flying session of 20 years.
I'll not EVER have anything Spektrum tx.
Thx for the vid. very enlightening. i actually ordered one of those a few days ago. Love that bling.
Hope you enjoy it
I find it amazing the value for the money Radio Master when you compare to Spektrum and what they charge for their radios which do much less.
Bought a MAX version, thanks and great reviews.
Enjoy it
Basically that's the hall gimbal version with the CNC stuff, the coloured flaceplate and the side grip things. It definitely worth in my opinion if you want those addons, I've bought it when it came out and then upgraded it myself saving like 20$ which, given the amount of work I had to do to disassemble the whole radio to fit the new parts, I would definitely pay to get it installed from factory.
Super review! Love your custom sounds. lol.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi, the recent version doesn't have the project box but it does have everything else that the Max has, including the same gimbals, except the cnc bling. The only thing it may not have, I haven't opened mine yet, is the upgraded switches under the cnc buttons. When you buy the cnc kit as an upgrade it comes with different switches to go under the cnc covers. It may be that the current version already comes with those switches as standard now.
Edit: The switches are the same but the top one is slightly offset.
Thanks for taking the time to report. Much appreciated.
I just received my Blue Max TX16S today. The feel, fit and finish are miles better than my way more expensive Spektrum NX10 . I also included the tempered glass screen protector in that order. Went on very easily and looks great. I took John's advice on the TX 4000mah lipo TX battery and ordered that today. Looking forward to learning this TX and flying with it..
Enjoy
The gimbals being way too high was that one thing that I didn't like about TX16S. So cool they have included those spacers, now I'm just waiting for the order to arrive. Gimbals need to be sunk at the proper distance to give the fingers an optimal movement ratio.
Amber voice is godly
Great Video sir!
Subbed being a new tx16 max2
Thanks & Enjoy your new MAX2 👍🙂
I got the TX16S Basic a couple months ago from Banggood, and it just came with the blanking plate, not the project box. I do seem to remember there being a second speaker inside - ah, yes there was... I remember having to unplug it before the back completely detached. That max edn. really does like nice though.
Thanks to this cool video I must have this gold version. I dont need it but I will get it now.
🙂
@@RchelicopterfunWhere do I get the laughing chic voice?
@@Rchelicopterfun Ok its here! I love it. Seems solid. I grabbed the Gensace 4000mah for it. Thanks again for the help. Now Im going to do the switch swap.
Great review sir. I purchased the hall version and the radio came with everything you showed except for the strap, unfortunately. Don’t know why.
So the Hall version is also coming with gimbal spacers too?
@@Rchelicopterfun yes it does come with the Gimbal spacers
Hi! Great video and great overall info on this channel!
Quick query, is the screen on this one polariser glasses friendly?
Thanks for sharing
@Vitor Morais - Unfortunately not (at least with my pl-sunglasses). The original Hall version's screen is however PL-sunglasses friendly. I however don't know if that is still the case or if they updated the screen on it as well? Best to ask the retailer if you decide to get either one to make sure.
I found my TX16S with FlySky receivers (specifically FSIA6B) are just as reliable, if not more, than the current premium Futaba protocols. AND TX16S/Flsky combo more reliable than DSMX, and FrSky...
I never had issue with futaba protocols. I use frsky fasst compatible no issue i dunno why u sad its more availble then futaba protocols
Hi John I just got my new radio master tx16 max. It looks like the change the gimbles that you can adjust them from the outside like the Eachine tx16s
I'm trying to send you a photo of my tx.
Kind regards
Johan
Thank you for comparing this radios, I wondering is the max edition is not to heavy because the cnc metal parts???
Little difference and totally undetectable - battery choice has a bigger impact.
Thank you John very nice review 👍🏻
hilarious sounds
Hi John. About the Anti glare screen protection you use on the horus. Where I can get those? I need one for my T16
No idea. The screen film on my Horus is a top polarized replacement layer because I scratched the original layer and removed it without thinking; fully, covered in this video along with the link to the film: ruclips.net/video/EwSTCVQzIbo/видео.html
As shown in that video, the only way that specific film I used would work on a RM TX16's screen would be if you removed the top polarizing layer of the screen as well. I certainly wouldn't recommend it for obvious reasons. I would think any anti reflective non-polarized film for a computer monitor, tablet, or phone could be used on the TX16s however.
regarding the not supported touchscreen: what do you think about edge tx? before i even got my radio, everyone i was talking to said "switch to edge tx, it's way better than open tx". sadly, because of wind i wasn't able to use it yet. i programmed it for my nano s3 and everything seems to work with edge tx (because of course i switched, even if it's just because it's better to type model names now). can't wait to use it for real
thx to the basically identical UI all the open tx tutorials also worked for my for setting dual rate and so
@RadimentriX - EdgeTX has nothing I really want over and above what OpenTX already has. I personally don't care for touch screens on any RC radio. There is nothing worse than greasy nitro goo or pre-mix all over the display so that feature is of no value for my needs. I'm sticking with what works and is time proven as I have too much invested in my machines to risk beta testing unknowns. I'll of course switch to Edge when OpenTX is no longer supported and has been out for a while - but I'm in absolutely no rush to do so.
have a hall version for 2 weeks now, didn't come with a neckstrap :<
also no project box, only a cover on mine
What is the best receiver for Radiomaster TX16 ?
not all ship with the strap.. i have the hall version and didnt get one
Thanks for the info on the strap.
I didn’t know Cave Johnson flew RC
Hi John. I just ran across your review. Thank you for the information. I’m thinking of getting a TX16 to replace my Horus x10s. Do you think you get the same performance out of the 4-in-1 module as compared to a FrSky RF deck in terms of reliable connection to the aircraft? All my receivers are X8R’s on ACCST Ver 2. I’m just wondering about flying more expensive aircraft with this radio. I have not found much on the web on this topic (maybe I’m not using the proper search terms). The radio definitely checks the boxes for me (OTX, EDGETX, ergonomics). You mention in one of the comments a year ago that you still fly your larger aircraft with your X12. Thanks for any information you can provide. PS, I also have found your boxster videos very helpful.
I don't think the RF performance/robustness of the RadioMaster TX16S's built in Multi-Protocol-Module is lacking in any way compared to FrSky's RF system. I've flown larger helicopters with the TX16's without issue and fully trust it. Keep in mind, large RC helicopter line of sight flying is not as far out as large fixed wing line of sight is. RF range of course is as much RX dependent as TX.
I too am running mostly X8R's on my larger birds. I get similar if not slightly more consistent RSSI numbers with the TX16S on the larger helicopters; of course the Horus X12S is not exactly known for stellar RF range & diversity with the built in PCB antenna; which is why I often run it with the secondary external antenna as well.
As to why I preferer to use my X12S with all my larger helicopters - several little personal reasons all combining to make it the obvious choice on the big stuff:
- I like the feel of it in my hands better.
- I like the heavier weight better.
- I like the lower sliders on it with nitro & gas engines so I can fine tune the carb idle settings during starting, warmup, and running.
- The sound/speakers on X12S is/are fantastic.
- Fit's my specific transmitter glove better for winter flying.
- And of course the main & primary reason why I got the X12S in the first place is for the the upper display. It's never blocked by my neck strap and on on my larger birds, I do use and glance down at that display quite a bit during a flight so it's very nice seeing all the information at a quick glance over taking a few glances to look around the strap.
- As I also demonstrated in the video, I wear prescription polarized sun glasses when I fly my bigger birds, and the polarization blocks out the display on the TX16S (at least on this Max version).
Again, most of these are personal reasons, and the primary one (the upper display) doesn't even apply the X10S.
Hope that helps a bit 🙂
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks John for the detailed response. It all makes sense. Interesting about the polarized sunglass issue. I also fly with prescription polarized sunglasses and it has not been a problem with my X10S (and probably your X12 as well). You mention that you demonstrated the issue in the video, but I did not see it in this one or your original TX16 review. If it is on another video, let me know. Otherwise I'm good. Thanks again for the information. Watching your Boxster video on cleaning out the radiators just put another to do item on my list :-)
@MrTorquenut - Sorry, I was mistaken on which video I mentioned that in. It was the Eachine TX16S review I did with the section on LCD screen polarization: ruclips.net/video/5mT-S3MhcxE/видео.html (the polarization demonstration starts around the 10 minute mark).
It depends on what specific screen they use, but it seems all the newer TX16's (both RadioMaster & Eachine) are not polarized at a 45 degree angle like the original TX16S was, along with the Horus and obviously your X10S Horus as well.
@@Rchelicopterfun That is an issue. Thanks John for the clarification. Your work is much appreciated.
Hi, I am using deviation on devo7e at the moment, do you think I should upgrade to Opentx on T12 pro or TX16S, which will be a good value for money tx to upgrade to if I do, i do not have extremely big hands and am not using the pinching method to control the tx, thanks
One more minor difference is two holes for balance options if you use a strap. Slightly forward tilt or flat. Not on the hall models.
Thanks for taking the time to point that out 👍🙂
Hi John,
Thanks for your video of the “Bling Bling” gold Radiomaster TX16S Max. When I come on the field I will have to live with the sneering remarks from the orther pilots. The gold man or Goldfinger, but I fell in love right away.
My question concerns the Companion updates. Every time accompanied with the radio software there is a SD card update that often ask for some jugglery for keeping all your settings.
When looking to the folder content of the new SD card that must be installed I see a lot of empty folders. Only install the necessary folders I should sudsiest. But live is often not so simple. Probably there are some hidden files.
This question must be addressed to the developers of OpenTX. Do you know the right person that I can ask this question or will you be so kind to pop this up.
The "Goldfinger" - I like it! 👍 One of my favorite Bond movies. Anyway, SD card version hassles. Yes, it's a bit of a hassle. I'm not sure where I read this (likely on OpenTX U somewhere since that's my OpenTX bible), but it's not absolutely critical you update the SD card with each companion/firmware update.
I will usually just drag the new opentx.sdcard.version file from the updated SD file into my radio SD card to get rid of the wrong SD version warning. I won't do that every time, but I don't see the need to do a full SD card update with every single firmware update. Every 3rd version of firmware however, I do update the card contents since there is scrip in it there that changes over time with the various updates. When I do a full card update, I will replace the image, logs, models, and sound files so I don't lose any of that specific info that is not related to firmware. Just my method of course and others may say it's not the best practice. I guess I'll find out eventually.
As for whom to contact to ask specifically... I really have no idea. OpenTX's site does have an "issues" page where people can report bugs or wish list requests so that would be one avenue. I'm sure you can post questions and comments also on Github in the OpenTX section where all the developers hang out (you'll need to open a account I think). I think they (OpenTX) also have a face-book page, but since I deleted my farce-book account years ago, I've never looked.
@@Rchelicopterfun John, Thank you very much for your answer and support. I will be spent some time seduce some OpenTX developers to think about a solution. After my afford it succeeded in changing software for the Garmin road updates. We shoot men to the moon so this can succeed also. Greetings from the Netherlands. Regards: Guus
Hi Jonh! Congratulations for the quite specific videos you have been publishing! I have a TREX 450 DFC running a AR 7200 as well as a TM 1000 for telemetry. Is the RadioMaster TX16S compatible with this setup?
Suggest paying a visit to Multi Protocol. orgs website for protocol compatibility. All Multi-Protocol modules including the one in the RM TX16S support all formats of Spektrum DSM protocol (DSM2 11&22ms & DSMX). So no issues there with the AR7200 - works fine.
No idea about the TM1000 (I don't even know what that is). Again, Multi-Protocol .org is a must study site for anyone thinking of getting into a multi-protocol radio system.
@@Rchelicopterfun Hi John, thank you very much for your prompt reply. TM 1000 is a telemetry module from SPEKTRUM.
I love my Gold TX16S max
Great video, thumbs up. That's said, I have the Radiomaster tx16s and I'm wondering how reliable is on the spektrum protocol!? I also have a Taranis x9D with the original spektrum module, and I'm wondering if I should use that one instead!? If you have any input that would be great. Thanks.
Never had any issues with it on my DSM2/X equipped aircraft so take that for what it's worth - anicdotal.
@@Rchelicopterfun Ha ha, Roger that. Well, let me ask you this: How many planes do you have (the real number is none of my business, so maybe you can say a few, or a lot), and how many people do you know that have used the same radio with DSM2/X!? Thanks.
None - I'm 100% collective pitch helicopters - lots (RC Helicopter Fun.com). I know a good number of TX16S users who fly planes, helis & quads on DSM. Of course the only way to know for sure how robust your DSM2/X RF link is with this radio (or any other for that matter) is to use the Spektrum SPM9540 RF data logger. Real data in terms of fades & packet losses on your specific model/s, with your specific antenna placement/spatial diversity/polarization orientation is orders of magnitude more valuable than anecdotal experiences from others. 🙂
@@Rchelicopterfun Well, if you know a ton of people using the Radiomaster TX16s on DSM, and they are not telling you all the time that the TX16s sucks [on DSM], that's great. I am going to take a look at the data logger. Thanks for the input...
I'm old school, still running JR 9XII with DSM upgrade.
This radio cost a small fortune in the day.
How does the TX16 feel compared to the quality of my old JR?
The TX looks a lot of bang for buck
I have no idea since I've never owned a 9X11. Compared to my JR X9503 however, the gimbals on the TX16S feel better (smoother and with Hall effect sensors, more precise over potentiometers), the encoder wheel feels a bit better, the toggles feel a little softer however.
The gimbal recessing rings and (I assume) different tension gimbal springs are nice features. The speakers are a bit much for me tho, hopefully they are mutable, beeps are plenty for my needs.
You can setup OpenTX voice, warnings, activations, conditions, or volume level any way you want. There is haptic warning as well. Gimbal tension is adjusted through the tensioners screws as shown in the original review, the springs in the bags are spares.
@@Rchelicopterfun I've never heard of getting spare springs, but my DX6e the highest end controller I have, lol. I didnt know the were prone to breaking.
True haptic feedback would be awesome, from the flight controller to the sticks, but I believe you are just referring to a vibration warning.
@@learningtocrash4030 correct on the vibrator
ahh I was right, your an old school RC guy, Awesome ! ! ! I has seen your review of the Hantek scope. . .
then I see on opening shot an old 7FG model futaba.. I agree with your choice... thanks for the reviee and peek inside...
being a proto builder My last was an 8JN with the AM pack.. in the back..
should have known a helo guy.. my last toy was a Blade CP a decade ago..
I wa using these decades ago for ROV testing etc.. to deploy and retrieve telemetry and developing autonomous ROV's "not for Mil." specifically..
hopefully you have a video of this in use... interesting options, how about range ? ? and can custom modulation be programmed or such.. ? just curious if you have tinkered and how it is setup..
with current SDR tech, a vast horizon of opportunity is here.. one radio for many models... awesome.. especially the trim and offset configirations..
thanks again keep up the great work..
a long sailing adventure ahead, I have no interest in mfg drones.. custom only
What sound files do you use? They are hilarious.
Amber Voice Pack
High John...my only gripe on Radio Master TX16 S was the protruding moving part on gimble..not sure what to call it...part that held stick, I would always hit it with my finger on throttle gimble and accidentally power up model slightly...on spektrum radios it was recessed and round and deeper so never had the problem..so I like the idea of gimble setting slightly deeper in transmitter ...may be why they they offer this choice !...also...ordered the glass screen protector accessory...any special advice or method when installing it ??? Long time fan of you and have some of your Heli E-Books,
I haven't fit the protector yet, but having fit other screen protectors over the years, the most important thing is to have zero dust on the screen as the film is slowly laid down from one side of the screen to the other. Even the tiniest bit of dust will look like a rock under the protector film. I use a little compressed air after cleaning the screen to ensure it's spotless and dust free.
Thanks for another fantastic review! I've been looking at the "max" for a little while now and they do look really nice. My question is this: I currently have a Jumper T16 (with Hall effect gimbals, internal multi-module, and I've modded it to be USB-C with internal charging) and it's so far served me very well. That being said, I don't get a whole lot of time to fly my little helis and I'm wondering if I should make the change to the RadioMaster or just stick with what I've got. Any thoughts?
Very similar radios. However, since I have no experience with the Jumper, I don't know if it has any better or worse attributes over Radio Master? Presuming, all things being equal between the two, I suppose the only reason to get a new one (radiomaster or other), would be if your T16 is getting tired or you simply want a new and different looking radio.
@@Rchelicopterfun I've heard some people complain about Jumper's ribbon cables malfunctioning, but mine have not (possibly because I replaced them when I did the USB-C charging mod? *shrugs*). So far there isn't any appreciable wear on the gimbals, but I don't get to fly terribly often. The only real reason for the upgrade for me at this point is cosmetic (that red and black is really sharp!) and the touch screen (when OpenTX supports it).
@@JohnRSippy I bought a silver TS16S Max to replace my DX6e that replaced my DX6i. The most difficult thing for me was getting used to OTX v. Spektrum. The "curb appeal" of the TX16S Max cosmetically gorgeous. I've changed my sticks ends out for black/silver "umbrella" type, and have a pair of black gimbal faces on the way. The options available to personalize the TX16S with OEM parts was and is a HUGE plus for me.
Will these transmitters read the sd cards from Spektrum transmitters to transfer programming files.
Thanks
No.
I'm in the market for a new radio. I need to upgrade my DX6i sincerely bad! Do you still recommend this radio John? I'll be using it with an aligned 550X. I've been watching you for years. Even have your manual that I've purchased I'm guessing 7 8 years ago. You're my one stop shop for anything heli related
If you're up for the learning curve involved in OpenTX - The TX16X is hard to beat in terms of value. More importantly, as I recommend to everyone thinking of making the switch to an OpenTX radio (regardless of brand or model), is to spend a good deal of time on OpenTX University's web site so you have an idea of the undertaking involved in learning OpenTX. Some folks never figure out OpenTX and hate it. Better to find that out before making a new radio purchase. Another must visit site with these radios is the Multi-Protocol website. I have links to both in the original review video I did on the RM TX16S Hall version.
John, do these radios have something similar to Spektrum's model match? So you can't inadvertently use the wrong model selection. Not overly familiar with Open Tx and if the Rx and Tx recognise their own unique binding signature.
Yes they do, by assigning different receiver numbers to each model. If you are not overly familiar with Open TX & Multi-Protocol, there are 3 goto sites I always recommend. First to address your radio match question is Multi-Module.org's site, they have a receiver match page on that site: www.multi-module.org/
That entire multi-module site is loaded with must know information if you want to get the most out of multi-protocol.
Next is OpenTX's site to get the basics of the operating system: www.open-tx.org/
An lastly OpenTX University's site: open-txu.org/
OpenTX U will show the operational mechanics of how OpenTX works. It was the game changer for me after I was ready to give up when I made the switch from Spektrum & JR.
OpenTX is a big learning curve for many who are used to traditional pre-configured computerized radios. Some hate it, but once you grasp the basic input, mix, output concept along with all the other features, chances are you'll never go back to a traditional computerized radio. I liken it to switching from a Window's or Mac OS to open source Linux), so do your research on those 3 sites before deciding if you are ready to take the plunge in the deep end of the OpenTX pool . Cheers - J
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks John for your detailed reply. I appreciate all the links too. Still slogging away using my JR 9503, but always looking at my future radio. Cheers, Stuart 👍
I'm a beginner and just bought. How do I know which model I got? Thnx.
Not sure I understand your question Gary. If you purchased a RadioMaster TX16S, you must know which model it was during the checkout - no? It will say which model if you look at your receipt. Also on the box. Also just by visually looking at. I must be missing something obvious in your question?
I heard the build on the Max is better in terms of thicker more solid plastic, could you feel the difference over the regular hall version?
None at all. I even took the backs off both to flex them in hand, and they were both, as far as I could tell, identical.
Where/how do you get th voice packs?
I got the Amber voice pack I use from OpenTX University's website.
Hi John First want to say thank for video. I'm very interested in buy the radio master tx16s max. But there is a new eachine tx16s that they say are beter but is made by radio master. Have you got any info for me on that. I love tgold one too. Kind regards Johan
I've got a review on the Eachine TX16S coming out on the 2nd of July. It's basically the exact same radio with a few minor differences over the *original Hall* version of the RadioMaster TX16S. Depending on what features you deem important, you may or may not like the Eachine version better. Operation wise however - totally identical radios with the exact same mother boards. *You can't really compare it to a MAX version however* . The MAX version is after all the flagship of the TX16S line up.
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you so much for coming back to me. I think I will go with the radio master tx16s max then. Will whach your review on eachine too. Kind regards Johan from Cape Town south africa 😊🌍
Shit is about to hit the fan,,,
Anyone knows what’s the sound package John is using?
Amber
@@Rchelicopterfun Hi John - Ive downloaded the Amber sound package and although its a different voice its not the same funny sounds that you have on your radio. Is there another version of it?
Hi John, can you make the video how to swap the switch
I mean the switch SH to SF Thanks.
As I stated in the video, I already did a video on that proceedure. I link to it in the description & in the card.
@@Rchelicopterfun thanks very much John
I would also like to build a couple sailing trainer boats, sloop and ketch rig styles, two diferent animals..
Hello from Ireland .John are you still using the flywing hi in your devil 505
It's still in there, but I'll be going back to the Ikon in the spring.
@@Rchelicopterfun I knew you wouldn't leave there😁🇮🇪
Can we disable ALL voices ?
Yep.
Has this radio now replaced your Horus John
I still love the X12S and use it exclusively for flying all my larger birds. I use the TX16S for all my smaller machines for the convenience; and due to Covid, all I'm flying right now are my smaller birds.
Can you add a 6 position switch?
It already has a 6 position.
The six 'crows feet' across the top present as a six position switch / potentiometer.
Has it got touch screen ability?
Radio yes, OpenTX no (at least not yet).
Looks kinda of like your old tx 📻
So are they the same gimbal on the max or?
Hall
"Shit is about to get real!" I love it!
Hahahahahahah $hit is about to get real. That is awesome!
😀 that’s a standard OpenTX line 😉
Ibcan confiem normal TX16s come with a simple cover right now, not the project box.
Thanks for the confirmation
ONLY IF YOU ORDER IN AMERICA! OR WAIT A MONTH OTHERWISE
I have two mint JR PCM 10SX H system.
I have the basic black TX16s version with Halls. I wouldn't dare show my face at the field with a bling radio like that. I would be a laughing stock.
I think also at the start when you say there are 4 versions of the radio, don't forget there is also the TX16SE version that does not have a full multi protocol module. Some folk buy this cheapest Radiomaster version only to find it does not have Spektrum protocol.
The very first one mentioned (the basic SE), I said it has limited multi-protocol at time index 0:57. It (the basic SE) was recently discontinued however, so that limited protocol issue has thankfully been eliminated.
As for color schemes, I'm so glad we have options. Thankfully the grown-ups I fly with keep their subjective thoughts to themselves and even if they didn't, who cares? I outgrew what the tribe thinks back in my early 20's.
@@Rchelicopterfun I didn't know the SE was discontinued. Presumably the Tx12 with its limited protocol options will take its place. I have the tx16s and the tx12 and I enjoy using both of them.
I would get one if it wasen't for the flimsy antennae.
What flimsy antennae? It's not flimsy at all - it's a standard adjustable 2.4 GHz dipole antenna in an adjustable sleeve - just like most of them are.
NO ITS NOT WORTH DOUBLE THE MONEY PERIOD
You mean 1/3 more money. The MAX is not double the price of the regular Hall (at least yet) 😄
Looks like Donald Trump designed the color scheme.
John. Thank you for this great video. I am buying definitly)...(if John liked it.) With this thing you can even stick a servo to a wife's mouth and control when she opens a mouth and when she is not!) Just a joke...we love them the way they are!)