Do you guys believe Breon? Honestly, I do. First, he is under 200 lbs on stage and second, Breon is about as genetically freaky as they get. He's managed to maintain a highly competitive physique for a good chunk of time. Sure there are guys in that line up hammering it hard to claw their way to the top. I'm not saying high doses don't exist but guys like Breon were made to do great in the sport. But that is just my opinion. What do you think?
I believe he is telling the truth on this cycle. I agree he has some of the best genetics ever. His weight cap is like 186, so there's no reason for him to take more gear than that. Once you've gained the size, it's not too hard to maintain on smaller doses. I'd be curious though if he took higher doses before to get to that size. But maybe not considering his genetics.
i just dont think someone would only take "what it takes" instead of "what they can handle" in a competition stetting. I do think he could look like that on those doses due to genetics, but i don't see why someone would risk losing because they didn't take an extra CC. Also, I can't help but notice the nervous scratch when he said the trenbolone dosage.
@@useraiaj234mp thats a good point, "what it takes" vs "what you can handle". I think that comes down to individual mindset and experience. I remember getting absolutely peeled one year and I still had 6 wks before the show. I talked to a more experienced coach and friend about increasing the doses. He said something like "but what are you going to expect to get from that? You're already as hard as you can get. It's not like taking tren is going to make a difference". That said, I did take more tren and it didn't really make a difference lol. I was already peeled. Even though I didn't follow his advice that year, I did learn from it and now I apply that to clients. In Breon's case, if these are truly his doses, I imagine his motivation for "what it takes" would relate to his age and wanting to stay in the sport as long as he can
What makes me very sad. You guys put on awesome shows, great information, humor, and just all around enjoyable to listen to. You consistently get 5k+ views, and so few of those people can take half a second to hit the "like button." Its crappy how crappy people in general are 😢😢😢 You guys rock!
Great one today guys. Thank you so much for the content. Just wanted to share that I've been on test cyp starting at 140mg a week up to 400mg a week,deca Startin at 150mg up to 375mg a week for the last year and have done bloodwork 4 times. My bloodwork has only gotten better. Also 20mg of Anavar pre-workout. Just wanted to add to your data. God bless you guys
Greetings, Mr. McNally and Mr. Crossland (though I must note, Mr. McNally, it is with two S's but not as per your description). I beseech you to illuminate my understanding of a most enigmatic elixir known as Zebol 50mg, contained within a 1ml ampoule. Pray, has this concoction ever graced your path, or have you perchance partaken of its mysteries? Strength and honour to you both.
Hi Scott, could you check with Dave about the ideal time off between cycles? I recall him mentioning an 8-week break before starting a new cycle. However, in your last episode where someone asked a question about natural recovery without PCT or TRT - he said that it’s necessary to be off for 12 weeks.
@@Livertemur Granted, my answer could be from chatgpt, but I still stand by my answer. You simply can't compare the after effects from 500 or 5000 mgs of compounds or between test or tren, etc, etc. Responsible coaches/athletes often make their decisions based on blood results. Saying x weeks is simply misleading.
Between Dave, Kuba and having a British coach the 2 main phrases that have worked their way into my American vocabulary are “bits and bobs” and “give it the beans” 😂
I said the exact same thing with Breone the fact that he doesn't really know the terminology shows shows how little he can get away with and have great results because we all know that guy who literally knows everything about every compound and looks horrible
Folks, I am planning to run Test and Deca cycle. Based on your knowledge, what is a common cycle for Test + Deca? Generally, I run only Test 700mg cycles. Results are very slow and I want to pace the results up a bit! Your long time viewer, thank you for education!
I'll let the experts tackle this but I know on similar questions in the past they've recommended going with a similar total load and then giving yourself room to taper up. For example, why not start with 400 Test, 300 Deca to see how you respond. If it gives the results you want, stay there. Once that stalls, you have room to then get the Test back to the 700mg and will have additional room to progress.
Thanks for covering this Scotty and Dave, I saw his video and it blew my mind. I can’t believe he’s taking that many compounds of course ☝🏼 being Tren Classic doesn’t seem safer, just seems more obtainable due to less meals and not less gear
Hey Vee Taper, honestly man, I would not consider the cycle he reported to be crazy for a competitor. To put this in context, state level guys are often using 2x this amount lol. Not saying they all NEED it, but it is common. He is claiming pretty low doses of each compound and it's only for a fixed period. He is not doing stuff like this year round. Remember that duration is another huge aspect of stress from gear
Ronnie Coleman was the same in terms of how he spoke about gear. Not the most knowledgeable, and took what he was told. Obviously one of the greatest of all time!
17, natural, living the lifestyle (quality nutrition in surplus, training, sleep, activity, hydration all on point), but in my last bloods my test was 233ng/dl, that’s somehow in reference range so doctor thinks it’s fine, i’m concerned, wtf do i do (all other blood markers were in range)
Gents, I'm a big fan of your podcast and I love your duo. A quick question. I take 630mg test & 1000IU HCG. Also, I take Arimidex every day 0.5 mg. My estradiol still comes up as 219pmol/L. I feel I take too much AI already. If you were me, would you increase the dosage of Arimidex? I'm consious that increased Arimidex dosage may potentially create other problems. Your opinion would be much appreciated.
That’s so interesting to hear another person had reduction in nerve pain while taking anabolics. I have DDD and osteoarthritis and the pain dropped by a very noticeable amount when I started taking test to maximize my time in physical therapy. I ended up taking far less pain meds. The crazy thing is that I stopped taking test 3 weeks ago and the pain is still much lower, I haven’t started taking more pain meds. So I cut my pain med usage by %60 by taking a 4 week cycle.
Any tips for major fatigue during leg training? After bb squats like 1/2 relatively heavy sets and I'm toast!! Unable to complete any other movements with meaningful intensity. I e bro is gassed lol ✌️
Question (topic?) for next episode: SHBG - what's the proper lvl. Most people say you want it low, so theres more free T. BUT if you get it too low, test just runs throu you. I swear I can pin 250mgs every other day and my test in the morning before pinning is around 1.5-1.7k. Gear is legit too. My SHBG is only 4 ... Also: have you heared about bringing it up with low test high deca cycle? Ive heared deca doesnt couse SHBG drop, as SHBG bounds only to E2, DHT and test. Thoughts?
Great show! It seems you guys just keep reading my mind...I've been considering trying tren for my next cut. I'm just very respectful of how powerful it is, and worried about side effects. Think I'll start very low at 25mg Tren Ace four times per week and go from there!
You'll get more bang for your buck/mg's with 75-100 mg tren alongside a nice test base than you will with anything else as long as you keep side effects low. No need to run it over 300 mg/wk like some guys do.
@@kylewinters7094 That was my thought. Guys in the 90s used 2-3 amps of Parabolan. Each 76mg amp equated to 50mg of test base. That's only 100-150mg of tren per week, and they never complained about side effects until high dose finaplex.
Yeah I believe him. He doesnt have any reason not to tell the truth. Also, how awesome does he look, and then you see his age and that makes it just insane how good he looks.
I've got arthritis, plates in my legs and about 300g of Afghan debris in my leg and back. Prescribed Oramorph and Tramadol (and occasionally use Naproxen). I find on cycle (test/deca) I have to use _far_ less medication to manage pain. On my cruise / TRT doses I lowered my test to 100mg and added in deca at 50mg and again find I have to use less medication than I did when I was on only test for TRT.
Hey Dave and Scott! Speaking of leg training, I can do 2 sets of full ROM squats in the smith machine, and be sore in my quads for 3-4 days. And I mean two working sets, and zero other exercises. Each set is a semi religious experience though. I search for the pain, and good lord do I find it 😂 If that’s all I can recover from, do I really need to add more exercises? Or reduce intensity, to add more sets, so I can recover better?
A lot of wisdom in this episode from both of you guys, esp Breon's cycle breakdown. Question for the next one. I ran a blood test more than 1 year after my last cycle. It reported a 2.33 nmol/l for DHT, where 0.32 - 2.16 should be a healthy range (European measurements). Is it advisable to ditch the Mast completely for my next cycle or can I mitigate the effects of taking Mast by taking Finasteride or Dutasteride as well? Thank you guys!
I think he is telling the truth. Coach just told him take half ml of that 1ml on that. Take it this time and that time. I get so paranoid its test 400 or sustanon then take Monday morning or Thursday evening. Exactly 7 am shot. If my gear is Janosik tested then I add one more line on my slin pin. If it is underdosed or overdosed etc. I think most of us just trying to get so precise in the doseage but there no need if we see what Breon Ansley is doing.
I see the drop off with Nebido in some guys by 6 weeks and peak levels as low as 10-15 nmol. So in these cases not much use from a therapeutic point of view.
At that body weight he could maintain that physique on those dosages, the repeating 300mg across the board is kinda cookie cutter but maybe it works for him. Its the old to maintain a physique takes quite a bit less than building the muscle. The tren blend is truly odd with acetate 2x a week? Maybe just stick with tren E at a slightly higher dosage? Sounds like a fun cycle, minus the AI.
Hello people , Hope you'r doing well .i got a question about test . i want to now if test can make you sleepy , am on 500mg of test E and i am feeling sleepy like never befor , first i thor it was the carbs becaus i am bulking , but even wen i reduced the carbs i still feel the same . Big thanks ✌🏽
Your body will increase myostatin in response to a rapid gain of muscle. Increasing the dosage will most likely work but you will eventually get to a point of diminishing return and serious side effects.
I'm not no expert or nothing but. But on this question, I thought you needed. Decent astrogen, for your GH to convert to I. G. F. One. Conversion. Just seems like All that Is going To give him really low estrogen.I could definitely be Wrong, especially since He's a pro and definitely has a good physique. Thanks a lot guys
Physiologically wise, the mind will always fail before the body. The body can never be pushed to complete failure. It's a survival mechanism of human physiologically. Even when you think you completely went to failure, you didn't, or you would literally be dead
Thanks Scott, for answering my question about Primobolan vs Rimobolan in one of your recent podcasts with Dave. Based on what you said, I think my understanding is that Primo is UGL where Rimobolan is a pharma grade, could you confirm, please? In Armenia there is a legit and reputable pharmacy that sells both of them over the counter. Both are from Turkey via suppler Bayer. I’m now a bit thinking whether to get Primo or Rimobolan from them. Rimobolan is literally twice as price as Primo.
I know guys with the best genetics may not be experts but I would like to think the pros know what they are taking and understand everything about it. Just seemed strange to me. Not that he is lying but it’s like he sounded so unsure.
Subscribed for some time now but never watched one of these only the bber and previous bb show reactions and I’ve got to say, DAMN IVE BEEN MISSING THE TRAIN😂😂🤦🏽♂️ First time cycler Tst cyp ONLY 36mL as pre workout(placebo effect) before evry training session after first meal mondy-fridy sat and sundy off. Was already genetically inclined from youth up through junior and high school . Was the kid so lean at summer camp(2nd-4th grade) everyone would call out my abs. Very uncomfortable to say the least until I grew into myself end of 4th grade onward. Vascularity and separation were always on my side just not the mass even eating whatever however I wanted. It never translated to size only energy lol. Wasn’t til I did my first stent at the county at 20 years old to where I bulked up from my norm 150-155 ish to 195lbs . Legit eating everything in sight and doubles at that. Was the fullest I’ve ever been but not seeing my mid section like I have for 19 years played with my mental lol. Mind you I didn’t touch gear till I was 29 years old. I came home from that stent and within 90 days I was 70% back to my norm with some added size . From that point onward training eating and training . Not sticking to a diet and being natty I look back and see why I stayed the same with minor gains over the course of that ten years . Documenting my physique on my socials during all of this time period . Definitely added for sure but not the bill and cut bulk and cut adding like MAJOIRTY do and have done . I can confidently say that this little beginner cycle I’m on since the end of 23’ December till current day. I’ve most def noticed change, and most def have been told by my peers and randoms about the noticed change. But I still look “kinda” normal considering I’m not popping out the seams like my counterparts running ⚙️. Have been studying bodybuilding since the Kai green Phil heath era. The best rabbit hole I could ever fall in. Only thing that gets me is my glutes becoming cushions lol, and being scared from not ever 📌 anywheres else, my off days are truly honored ahaha . Site injct pain is minuscule but I def learned my lesson trying to find topsoil instead of bedrock ahahaha That some night sweats but nothing crazy and BRUH, I was already high driven sexually. This journey has amplified that x’s 50 I feel like. 30 years old no kids and single, lol someone’s mum def gonna remember 😂😂🤦🏽♂️😎
The omission of winstrol is one of the things that makes this look doubtful. Nothing will harden you up like winstrol, not tren not mast not anything. He decided to go into the biggest show in the world with no winstrol?
I do like some winny for sure and have done great work with it but I have gotten guys peeled without it. Would you believe me if I told you this was under 1g total of test and mast? And to top it off, it was his second show and he won his pro card at NA. First show was a state level show 2 wks before that facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10159388651013637&set=pb.791008636.-2207520000&type=3
@@ThinkBIGBodybuilding When I click the link it says "Sorry, this content isn't available right now". I bet he looks great but this is just one of the reasons I think Breon is fibbing. I listed the other reasons on your comment you pinned to the top.
@@majicogarcia8417 fair enough brother 👊 I see my link to FB didn't work. Tell me if you can see it from IG. This guy was wacky instagram.com/p/CS7of_FHJAl/
Take away from Breon…. If he ever offers coaching services, do not utilize them. While I have no doubt that his cycle was likely reflective of what he said, he clearly has no knowledge of compounds as he continually was confusing MG and ML.
Breon seems a bit clueless about some of the compounds he's reading off. Goes to show how important a role genetics is, and not as much about whoever knows the most about gear! lol
Tren is 1 hell of a drug.. the most I did was 10-20 mgs and had to get off.. so 300 plus hgh and other stuff it’s believable but this is a PREP CYCLE 😂😂😂WHAT DID HE DO TO GROW WE WANNA KNO HIS BLAST AND IF HE USED SLIN BEFORE😂😂
I respect your opinion but why not share it publicly? My perspective is, the more gear is talked about, especially by respected people in the sport, the less taboo and the more educated the community becomes. Just my perspective
It’s scary how uneducated one of the top bodybuilders/classic physique competitors in the world truly is about his supplement use. Even worse that he took this video and thought he was right. 🤦🏼♂️
You cant be a bodybuilding coach if dont know what youre take. That plumber showing up to every job with half his tools. Just looked it up. He charges 700 on month to month. How. Why.
I think this dude is not telling the truth whatsoever. As long as he's been in the game, he knows exactly what he's taking. Him reading off script like that, trying to make it seem official. The nervous scratching. Like bro do you think we're dumb. 😂
Having known other Olympians personally, you would be surprised man! lol. In some cases, they literally just leave it up to their coach and never invest the time into learning.Guys and girls who did really well on their own with less than ideal cycles that don''t make a ton of sense. Then hire coaches at the pro level and just follow the plan. If I could expose that I would, but I would be burning bridges, in some cases with people I call friends
Honestly why play the "coming out" game if you are full of BS. Here in Europe (my town especially) is a powerlifting orientated and i happen to k iw guys from 20-30 years ago. Even then they used 3 sustanons a week 6 ritabolin and anadrol/dbol hands full. Sustanon aline is 750mg if test (a bit less of cuz ester) ritabolin was/is deca pharma grade but small dosage i bekieve it was 50mg maybe 100mg/ml at most. So 350 to 600mg deca topped with dbol/drol. And that was like bread and butter if powerlifters to begin with - did some use less, i bet yes. But for most that was like normal thing so guess how the best lifters took - ofcourse more. And i dont believe tjat bodybuilders use less especially at top level. Bullshiters all around. Drop some balls and spill it or dont even start this crap. Come to Europe and ask old lifters what they took- atleast they dont bullshit you.
@kelainefes that might be a valid point , didnt think too much how "small" he has to be in the cap. On video he looks huge - maybe not in life idk. My point was that an average lifters take already decent amount so pros and pro builders will be on that or pushing more. (Tho i forgot the wieght cap thing)
Pros don’t measure, they run vials. 2 vials Test e or c, week 200-300 suspension day 24-30iu hgh day 1200mgs EQ week 900mgs Deca week 200mgs adrol 4 weeks on and off Increlex (?) Nubain preworkout Grams and grams per week.
Pros don’t want people to look like them for one, and they would be embarrassed to reveal the abusive dosages they need to be competitive. Grams and grams per week. 6-10 grams week and 18-30iu hgh day is the base with other goodies as needed, amphetamines, opiods, nsrcotics, insulin to push new size.
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Do you guys believe Breon? Honestly, I do. First, he is under 200 lbs on stage and second, Breon is about as genetically freaky as they get. He's managed to maintain a highly competitive physique for a good chunk of time. Sure there are guys in that line up hammering it hard to claw their way to the top. I'm not saying high doses don't exist but guys like Breon were made to do great in the sport. But that is just my opinion. What do you think?
I believe he is telling the truth on this cycle. I agree he has some of the best genetics ever. His weight cap is like 186, so there's no reason for him to take more gear than that. Once you've gained the size, it's not too hard to maintain on smaller doses. I'd be curious though if he took higher doses before to get to that size. But maybe not considering his genetics.
i just dont think someone would only take "what it takes" instead of "what they can handle" in a competition stetting. I do think he could look like that on those doses due to genetics, but i don't see why someone would risk losing because they didn't take an extra CC. Also, I can't help but notice the nervous scratch when he said the trenbolone dosage.
@@useraiaj234mp thats a good point, "what it takes" vs "what you can handle". I think that comes down to individual mindset and experience. I remember getting absolutely peeled one year and I still had 6 wks before the show. I talked to a more experienced coach and friend about increasing the doses. He said something like "but what are you going to expect to get from that? You're already as hard as you can get. It's not like taking tren is going to make a difference". That said, I did take more tren and it didn't really make a difference lol. I was already peeled. Even though I didn't follow his advice that year, I did learn from it and now I apply that to clients.
In Breon's case, if these are truly his doses, I imagine his motivation for "what it takes" would relate to his age and wanting to stay in the sport as long as he can
I believe him. If it’s off it’s not by much. Genetics are a real thing and people can’t accept that
Yes, I believe him.
Have to realize that this cycle is on prep AND he's already hit his max weight cap. He 100% obviously used more to build his physique years ago.
Breon has always toed the line with his weight cap. He has to keep his doses low to not outgrow his cap
You guys are always enjoyable to listen to/watch. Keep up the good work!
What makes me very sad. You guys put on awesome shows, great information, humor, and just all around enjoyable to listen to. You consistently get 5k+ views, and so few of those people can take half a second to hit the "like button." Its crappy how crappy people in general are 😢😢😢
You guys rock!
Great one today guys. Thank you so much for the content. Just wanted to share that I've been on test cyp starting at 140mg a week up to 400mg a week,deca Startin at 150mg up to 375mg a week for the last year and have done bloodwork 4 times. My bloodwork has only gotten better. Also 20mg of Anavar pre-workout. Just wanted to add to your data. God bless you guys
Keep us posted brother !
Greetings, Mr. McNally and Mr. Crossland (though I must note, Mr. McNally, it is with two S's but not as per your description). I beseech you to illuminate my understanding of a most enigmatic elixir known as Zebol 50mg, contained within a 1ml ampoule. Pray, has this concoction ever graced your path, or have you perchance partaken of its mysteries? Strength and honour to you both.
Hi Scott, could you check with Dave about the ideal time off between cycles? I recall him mentioning an 8-week break before starting a new cycle. However, in your last episode where someone asked a question about natural recovery without PCT or TRT - he said that it’s necessary to be off for 12 weeks.
This is a typical "it depends" question. What and how much did you ran for how long? Comparing before and after blood results would give you a hint.
@@the_notorious_bas in a world of steroids - everything depends. However, generally there should be a "common" or "average" concept.
@@Livertemur Granted, my answer could be from chatgpt, but I still stand by my answer. You simply can't compare the after effects from 500 or 5000 mgs of compounds or between test or tren, etc, etc. Responsible coaches/athletes often make their decisions based on blood results. Saying x weeks is simply misleading.
True, there is that as well
Always appreciate the show guys!
Scott that shirt is awesome 👍
thanks man. wish they still made this shirt!!
Great show guys , learn something every Monday from big Dave
glad to have you here brother !!
Between Dave, Kuba and having a British coach the 2 main phrases that have worked their way into my American vocabulary are “bits and bobs” and “give it the beans” 😂
GIVE IT THE BEANS!! lol. Thats a great one haha
First step in creating a cycle in 2025; 1/4 sheet of 8x11 notebook Paper, and a #2 Pencil… it’s where all greatness starts.
Bro. You know there is a Notes app on the iPhone, right? 😂
Most likely used higher doses to get to his size. Bu to maintain he can get away with taking less.
I said the exact same thing with Breone the fact that he doesn't really know the terminology shows shows how little he can get away with and have great results because we all know that guy who literally knows everything about every compound and looks horrible
Loved the show guys, thank you
Our pleasure! thanks for watching !
Folks, I am planning to run Test and Deca cycle. Based on your knowledge, what is a common cycle for Test + Deca? Generally, I run only Test 700mg cycles. Results are very slow and I want to pace the results up a bit! Your long time viewer, thank you for education!
If 700 test is working for you, why dont you just run that longer.
@@majicogarcia8417 the results are slow
@@majicogarcia8417 slow results that's why
If it were me I'd Keep that Test @700mgs and about 150-200mgs Deca solid
I'll let the experts tackle this but I know on similar questions in the past they've recommended going with a similar total load and then giving yourself room to taper up.
For example, why not start with 400 Test, 300 Deca to see how you respond. If it gives the results you want, stay there. Once that stalls, you have room to then get the Test back to the 700mg and will have additional room to progress.
I make my Primo, Mast, and Tren at 100mg/ml. NPP at 150
Thanks for covering this Scotty and Dave, I saw his video and it blew my mind. I can’t believe he’s taking that many compounds of course ☝🏼 being Tren
Classic doesn’t seem safer, just seems more obtainable due to less meals and not less gear
Hey Vee Taper, honestly man, I would not consider the cycle he reported to be crazy for a competitor. To put this in context, state level guys are often using 2x this amount lol. Not saying they all NEED it, but it is common. He is claiming pretty low doses of each compound and it's only for a fixed period. He is not doing stuff like this year round. Remember that duration is another huge aspect of stress from gear
@ i believe you it’s just surprising for
Well done guys!
Ronnie Coleman was the same in terms of how he spoke about gear. Not the most knowledgeable, and took what he was told. Obviously one of the greatest of all time!
Yes!! you are absolutely right man haha
@@ThinkBIGBodybuilding he absolutely knows what he has taken, they all act like they dont know
@@davidluke2792 So you think he is trolling us? haha
@@ThinkBIGBodybuildingof course😂 he was a police officer, writing down reports was his job of course he knows what he took. He is no dummy
17, natural, living the lifestyle (quality nutrition in surplus, training, sleep, activity, hydration all on point), but in my last bloods my test was 233ng/dl, that’s somehow in reference range so doctor thinks it’s fine, i’m concerned, wtf do i do (all other blood markers were in range)
Gents, I'm a big fan of your podcast and I love your duo. A quick question. I take 630mg test & 1000IU HCG. Also, I take Arimidex every day 0.5 mg. My estradiol still comes up as 219pmol/L. I feel I take too much AI already. If you were me, would you increase the dosage of Arimidex? I'm consious that increased Arimidex dosage may potentially create other problems. Your opinion would be much appreciated.
Switch to aromasin ead 12.5mg
@@Snotloud worst advise, aromasin is way weaker than Arimidex, so if Arimidex is not as sufficient then never mind about Aromasin
If you do a podcast with Scott about the nutrient carb timing, could you include a segment about having a caloric difference on training vs rest days?
Dude, read your mind! We just recorded it and I will get it out soon, in the next week
@ Love it!
That’s so interesting to hear another person had reduction in nerve pain while taking anabolics. I have DDD and osteoarthritis and the pain dropped by a very noticeable amount when I started taking test to maximize my time in physical therapy. I ended up taking far less pain meds. The crazy thing is that I stopped taking test 3 weeks ago and the pain is still much lower, I haven’t started taking more pain meds. So I cut my pain med usage by %60 by taking a 4 week cycle.
Any tips for major fatigue during leg training? After bb squats like 1/2 relatively heavy sets and I'm toast!! Unable to complete any other movements with meaningful intensity. I e bro is gassed lol ✌️
Thanks for pointing out about ml and mg. I couldn't figure out if he was misspeaking or just had no idea what he actually takes? Sort of shocking!
Question (topic?) for next episode: SHBG - what's the proper lvl. Most people say you want it low, so theres more free T. BUT if you get it too low, test just runs throu you. I swear I can pin 250mgs every other day and my test in the morning before pinning is around 1.5-1.7k. Gear is legit too. My SHBG is only 4 ... Also: have you heared about bringing it up with low test high deca cycle? Ive heared deca doesnt couse SHBG drop, as SHBG bounds only to E2, DHT and test. Thoughts?
Breon is 187 on stage ppl forget that when they think a guy like him is on grams and grams of gear lol.
Plus the man is 44 and looks 24.
Careful, This might be a little too much logic for a RUclips comment 🤣
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding true that😂😅
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Great show! It seems you guys just keep reading my mind...I've been considering trying tren for my next cut. I'm just very respectful of how powerful it is, and worried about side effects. Think I'll start very low at 25mg Tren Ace four times per week and go from there!
100 mg per week is not bad. You can even start at 50
You'll get more bang for your buck/mg's with 75-100 mg tren alongside a nice test base than you will with anything else as long as you keep side effects low. No need to run it over 300 mg/wk like some guys do.
@@kylewinters7094 That was my thought. Guys in the 90s used 2-3 amps of Parabolan. Each 76mg amp equated to 50mg of test base. That's only 100-150mg of tren per week, and they never complained about side effects until high dose finaplex.
Yeah I believe him. He doesnt have any reason not to tell the truth.
Also, how awesome does he look, and then you see his age and that makes it just insane how good he looks.
How long is a piece of string?
Twice as long as from the beginning to the end.
I've got arthritis, plates in my legs and about 300g of Afghan debris in my leg and back. Prescribed Oramorph and Tramadol (and occasionally use Naproxen).
I find on cycle (test/deca) I have to use _far_ less medication to manage pain. On my cruise / TRT doses I lowered my test to 100mg and added in deca at 50mg and again find I have to use less medication than I did when I was on only test for TRT.
CAN YOU PLEASE ASK DAVE WHAT THE CURRENT TOP 3 RELIABLE UGL LABS ARE IN UK PLEASE? THANK YOU ... NOT ASKING FOR SOURCES
Hey Dave and Scott! Speaking of leg training, I can do 2 sets of full ROM squats in the smith machine, and be sore in my quads for 3-4 days. And I mean two working sets, and zero other exercises. Each set is a semi religious experience though. I search for the pain, and good lord do I find it 😂
If that’s all I can recover from, do I really need to add more exercises? Or reduce intensity, to add more sets, so I can recover better?
A lot of wisdom in this episode from both of you guys, esp Breon's cycle breakdown.
Question for the next one. I ran a blood test more than 1 year after my last cycle. It reported a 2.33 nmol/l for DHT, where 0.32 - 2.16 should be a healthy range (European measurements). Is it advisable to ditch the Mast completely for my next cycle or can I mitigate the effects of taking Mast by taking Finasteride or Dutasteride as well? Thank you guys!
Dave looking healthy and chirpy today 😎👍
I think he is telling the truth. Coach just told him take half ml of that 1ml on that. Take it this time and that time.
I get so paranoid its test 400 or sustanon then take Monday morning or Thursday evening. Exactly 7 am shot. If my gear is Janosik tested then I add one more line on my slin pin. If it is underdosed or overdosed etc.
I think most of us just trying to get so precise in the doseage but there no need if we see what Breon Ansley is doing.
I see the drop off with Nebido in some guys by 6 weeks and peak levels as low as 10-15 nmol. So in these cases not much use from a therapeutic point of view.
Whens the Think BIG Bodybuilding's Mumus coming out?? 💪💪👗👗
Love u guys great podcast yes more Dave stories
At that body weight he could maintain that physique on those dosages, the repeating 300mg across the board is kinda cookie cutter but maybe it works for him. Its the old to maintain a physique takes quite a bit less than building the muscle. The tren blend is truly odd with acetate 2x a week? Maybe just stick with tren E at a slightly higher dosage?
Sounds like a fun cycle, minus the AI.
Hello people , Hope you'r doing well .i got a question about test . i want to now if test can make you sleepy , am on 500mg of test E and i am feeling sleepy like never befor , first i thor it was the carbs becaus i am bulking , but even wen i reduced the carbs i still feel the same . Big thanks ✌🏽
What makes progres stopp on a cycle for example after 16 weeks and why not increase the dosage if bloodwork is fine..
Your body will increase myostatin in response to a rapid gain of muscle.
Increasing the dosage will most likely work but you will eventually get to a point of diminishing return and serious side effects.
I'm not no expert or nothing but. But on this question, I thought you needed. Decent astrogen, for your GH to convert to I. G. F. One. Conversion. Just seems like All that Is going To give him really low estrogen.I could definitely be Wrong, especially since He's a pro and definitely has a good physique.
Thanks a lot guys
Physiologically wise, the mind will always fail before the body. The body can never be pushed to complete failure. It's a survival mechanism of human physiologically. Even when you think you completely went to failure, you didn't, or you would literally be dead
Yeah, get victor! That's be badass!
I'm pretty sure Patrick Arnold would be down for an interview, he's quite friendly you should try get in touch with him.
Thanks Scott, for answering my question about Primobolan vs Rimobolan in one of your recent podcasts with Dave. Based on what you said, I think my understanding is that Primo is UGL where Rimobolan is a pharma grade, could you confirm, please? In Armenia there is a legit and reputable pharmacy that sells both of them over the counter. Both are from Turkey via suppler Bayer. I’m now a bit thinking whether to get Primo or Rimobolan from them. Rimobolan is literally twice as price as Primo.
Bayer makes Rimobolan
@@BrandoTheMando87 The pharmacy says on Primo as well as Rimobolan the suppler as Bayer :)
People always fail to believe that its all about the food and training.....not the damn gear!
I can't decide if he doesn't have a clue or full of shit. How do you not know what you're taking?, and have to read it off of paper .very sus
😂😂he hasn't got a clue wtf he's talking about
I feel embarrassed for him
@@pauldavies7251I hope for his own sake he’s playing dumb…
I know guys with the best genetics may not be experts but I would like to think the pros know what they are taking and understand everything about it. Just seemed strange to me. Not that he is lying but it’s like he sounded so unsure.
A lot of people can’t read a 24 hr clock. 00:00-00:00
Subscribed for some time now but never watched one of these only the bber and previous bb show reactions and I’ve got to say, DAMN IVE BEEN MISSING THE TRAIN😂😂🤦🏽♂️
First time cycler
Tst cyp ONLY
36mL as pre workout(placebo effect) before evry training session after first meal mondy-fridy sat and sundy off.
Was already genetically inclined from youth up through junior and high school . Was the kid so lean at summer camp(2nd-4th grade) everyone would call out my abs. Very uncomfortable to say the least until I grew into myself end of 4th grade onward. Vascularity and separation were always on my side just not the mass even eating whatever however I wanted. It never translated to size only energy lol. Wasn’t til I did my first stent at the county at 20 years old to where I bulked up from my norm 150-155 ish to 195lbs . Legit eating everything in sight and doubles at that. Was the fullest I’ve ever been but not seeing my mid section like I have for 19 years played with my mental lol. Mind you I didn’t touch gear till I was 29 years old. I came home from that stent and within 90 days I was 70% back to my norm with some added size . From that point onward training eating and training . Not sticking to a diet and being natty I look back and see why I stayed the same with minor gains over the course of that ten years . Documenting my physique on my socials during all of this time period . Definitely added for sure but not the bill and cut bulk and cut adding like MAJOIRTY do and have done . I can confidently say that this little beginner cycle I’m on since the end of 23’ December till current day. I’ve most def noticed change, and most def have been told by my peers and randoms about the noticed change. But I still look “kinda” normal considering I’m not popping out the seams like my counterparts running ⚙️. Have been studying bodybuilding since the Kai green Phil heath era. The best rabbit hole I could ever fall in. Only thing that gets me is my glutes becoming cushions lol, and being scared from not ever 📌 anywheres else, my off days are truly honored ahaha . Site injct pain is minuscule but I def learned my lesson trying to find topsoil instead of bedrock ahahaha
That some night sweats but nothing crazy and BRUH, I was already high driven sexually. This journey has amplified that x’s 50 I feel like. 30 years old no kids and single, lol someone’s mum def gonna remember 😂😂🤦🏽♂️😎
Amen to Dave for just saying it. Sometimes optimal is “just shut the f up and train”
He should be getting his doses right he's done it long enough.
Dave you reckon you could get Eval at ultra flex Seacroft for everyone in the Leeds area
Dave looking slightly less unhealthy, (note I did not say healthier) good to see.
LOL he will love that
i am 50 years old, big , lean and strong. i never come off and i wonder where the problems from roids are you mentioned ...
so if carbs are so important for everything.. why i feel super fine without em while being big and strong? i dont need carbs at all.
How much does alcohol really effect muscle growth after a workout
Brad martyn says Breon legit has small dosages and responds mega
200mg TA/TE is doing the heavy lifting in that. And he weighs under 200 on stage
I don’t think he knows what he was taking
The omission of winstrol is one of the things that makes this look doubtful. Nothing will harden you up like winstrol, not tren not mast not anything. He decided to go into the biggest show in the world with no winstrol?
I do like some winny for sure and have done great work with it but I have gotten guys peeled without it. Would you believe me if I told you this was under 1g total of test and mast? And to top it off, it was his second show and he won his pro card at NA. First show was a state level show 2 wks before that
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@@ThinkBIGBodybuilding When I click the link it says "Sorry, this content isn't available right now". I bet he looks great but this is just one of the reasons I think Breon is fibbing. I listed the other reasons on your comment you pinned to the top.
@@majicogarcia8417 fair enough brother 👊 I see my link to FB didn't work. Tell me if you can see it from IG. This guy was wacky instagram.com/p/CS7of_FHJAl/
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Melanotan is working.
I missed Christmas cabbage
We all do
Dave with that voice complaining about noise is crazy 😭🤣
to be fair, I was able to work some serious magic post production. it was loud AF at my house when we recorded lol
SCOTT CAN YOU ASK DAVE IF IFBB PRO ERNIE TAYLORS TRICEPS WERE FILLED WITH SEO OR JUST SITED A LOT WITH GEAR?. THANK YOU BRO
mast p 200 is pretty common from what i have seen. Its not the industry standard.
Tren is 1 hell of a drug.. the most I did was 10-20 mgs and had to get off.. so 300 plus hgh and other stuff it’s believable
I believe him
Take away from Breon…. If he ever offers coaching services, do not utilize them.
While I have no doubt that his cycle was likely reflective of what he said, he clearly has no knowledge of compounds as he continually was confusing MG and ML.
I'm 61, so I'll take 85!
300ml lol. He's got no clue on whats going on
So mast prop at 200mg per ml. I don't think so. I calk bullshit
I bet he just made a mistake on that
Breon seems a bit clueless about some of the compounds he's reading off. Goes to show how important a role genetics is, and not as much about whoever knows the most about gear! lol
Those gym rats need a coach or stop steroids completely its insane
Maybe, one thing is for sure. He's used A LOT more at once to build that physique.
how much does it take to get to 190 lbs? haha
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 190lbs lean at 4'11" is huge (joke) but I'm sure 2-3 grams at his peak pushes.
@DavidHernandez-yb5pz if he's a good responder he never needed more than 1000 on a bulk and 1500 on a cut.
@@DavidHernandez-yb5pz At 4'11 🤣😆🤣
Tren is 1 hell of a drug.. the most I did was 10-20 mgs and had to get off.. so 300 plus hgh and other stuff it’s believable but this is a PREP CYCLE 😂😂😂WHAT DID HE DO TO GROW WE WANNA KNO HIS BLAST AND IF HE USED SLIN BEFORE😂😂
Breon doesn’t even know what he’s taking I’m pretty sure he’s full of shit.
Superior genetics and pharma hgh makes this believable.
Your not training if your hurt an if your not hitting the right muscle then your training not working to it full.
i like that beron talked about his cycle but i feel this stuff should be on his personal website and kept off the tubes
I respect your opinion but why not share it publicly? My perspective is, the more gear is talked about, especially by respected people in the sport, the less taboo and the more educated the community becomes. Just my perspective
People are always calling for transparency and that's what he's done.
No way that guy is full of shit
It’s scary how uneducated one of the top bodybuilders/classic physique competitors in the world truly is about his supplement use.
Even worse that he took this video and thought he was right. 🤦🏼♂️
why he breaking it down in mL lol
You cant be a bodybuilding coach if dont know what youre take. That plumber showing up to every job with half his tools. Just looked it up. He charges 700 on month to month. How. Why.
LOL about the plumber !!
I think this dude is not telling the truth whatsoever. As long as he's been in the game, he knows exactly what he's taking. Him reading off script like that, trying to make it seem official. The nervous scratching. Like bro do you think we're dumb. 😂
Having known other Olympians personally, you would be surprised man! lol. In some cases, they literally just leave it up to their coach and never invest the time into learning.Guys and girls who did really well on their own with less than ideal cycles that don''t make a ton of sense. Then hire coaches at the pro level and just follow the plan. If I could expose that I would, but I would be burning bridges, in some cases with people I call friends
Multiply all those dosages by 3 and you’re starting to get close to his actual cycle 😊
Yes!👍
Homie genetics are real
Funny enough , some idiots will actually believe your comment, try it and get nothing but sides.
Retarded take
He competes at about 185lbs..... You people think every single bodybuilder blasts 10g of test and 10g of tren every day
Breon sounds like he don't know wtf he's talkin bout!!!
Honestly why play the "coming out" game if you are full of BS. Here in Europe (my town especially) is a powerlifting orientated and i happen to k iw guys from 20-30 years ago. Even then they used 3 sustanons a week 6 ritabolin and anadrol/dbol hands full. Sustanon aline is 750mg if test (a bit less of cuz ester) ritabolin was/is deca pharma grade but small dosage i bekieve it was 50mg maybe 100mg/ml at most. So 350 to 600mg deca topped with dbol/drol. And that was like bread and butter if powerlifters to begin with - did some use less, i bet yes. But for most that was like normal thing so guess how the best lifters took - ofcourse more. And i dont believe tjat bodybuilders use less especially at top level. Bullshiters all around. Drop some balls and spill it or dont even start this crap. Come to Europe and ask old lifters what they took- atleast they dont bullshit you.
Lifters take more because they get stronger taking more gear.
Especially in bench press.
Different case than bodybuilders with a weight cap like Breon
@kelainefes that might be a valid point , didnt think too much how "small" he has to be in the cap. On video he looks huge - maybe not in life idk. My point was that an average lifters take already decent amount so pros and pro builders will be on that or pushing more. (Tho i forgot the wieght cap thing)
Pros don’t measure, they run vials.
2 vials Test e or c, week
200-300 suspension day
24-30iu hgh day
1200mgs EQ week
900mgs Deca week
200mgs adrol 4 weeks on and off
Increlex (?)
Nubain preworkout
Grams and grams per week.
That's an open class cycle.
Breon is in Classic, about 5'6", about 186lbs on stage. It wouldn't make any sense for him to take grams and grams.
Pros don’t want people to look like them for one, and they would be embarrassed to reveal the abusive dosages they need to be competitive.
Grams and grams per week. 6-10 grams week and 18-30iu hgh day is the base with other goodies as needed, amphetamines, opiods, nsrcotics, insulin to push new size.
🤣🤣 possibly some of them, but not any good ones
He's 180 something on stage, not 260 lol.