I put these on my American Professional Tele, and MIM Standard Strat. Great upgrade, they have 18:1 gear ratio, (the regular tuners are 14:1)they minimize friction, and they make string changing super quick and easy.
Just replaced the tuners in my MIM strat with the lockers. What a difference. Should have done it two years ago when I bought the guitar. Thanks Landon!!!👍👍
If you use the whammy bar, you should try a SuperVee Mag-Lok too. I have one on my MIMStand, and it really works, it stops the bridge from rising unevenly during finger bends, which is 99% of what throws the stock system out of tune. It’s like having a convertible hard tail - the bridge is stabilized when the whammy’s not in play, but you can still use the bar up, or down, whenever you want.
is your MIM a player series strat? if yes i'd like yo know if you had to pierce anything or if the holes are already here for adapting the blocking tuners?
@@z00mist87little late to the reply but the player series IS the made in Mexico one. Player stands for just us regular plebeians and to answer your question yes. The fender locking tuners should be compatible with all player strats as far as I’m aware. Honestly most fender parts are compatible with each other the only thing I’d worry about dimensions is the nut.
Doesn't that Tele sound great through the Marshall DSL20HR? Timestamps: 0:00 - the guitar 0:15 - the tuners 0:25 - what we're doing 1:32 - the tools 1:47 - the installation 7:00 - sounds samples
Hi landon, i have one question regarding locking tuners: can you put them on a squier strat? I say this because I've seen some discussions over the diameter of the headstock holes matters when installing ao not sure about that, thanks im advance.
I have noticed in forums that people make snarky comments when folks ask about locking tuners. I put them on the guitars i use the most because mild arthritis make conventional stringing very difficult for me.
Then you will wind the string when tuning it up to standard tuning which decreases tuning stability since there is more slop (the string can move and jump around more), and that kind of eliminates the purpose of locking tuners.
You can most certainly go down to drop D my dudes. You can get any tuning out of them. They work just like regular tuners besides locking the string in place. Sorry this guy doesn’t care about being knowledgeable about the turners he’s installing.
If I were planning to downtune as low as Drop C on strings I was going to stretch in E tuning, I might leave a tiny bit more slack than the guy in the video does before locking the tuners, to have that little bit of extra string to unravel when downtuning super far. With locking tuners you don't need to worry about grip nearly as much, but I imagine you wouldn't want your string hanging on by just the lock.
You were lucky. I’m doing the same to my MIK Tele but find the small pegs on the bottom of the new tuners don’t align with the holes existing for the old ones. Filled the old holes and am preparing to redrill them for the pin lock tuners. Wish me luck as I lack confidence using an electric hand drill on the guitar neck. I love pinlock tuners, and have them on 3 other guitars.
so , I just did this upgrade to my 2001 squire standard strat. The two alignment holes for the tuners I removed were off from the fender locking tuners. not so easy. they were so close that the drill wanted to slide into the original hole. With a little work I got it. Idealy I should have plugged the original holes and then redrilled, but nah that would have been more work :)
Something you may never notice, but came to bite me, is after 5 strokes, I have lost the dexterity in my hands and fingers, that I didn't even know were required to change my guitar strings! Meaning that I am looking forward to saving up for getting some locking tuners! If they DO help? I will be greatly pleased!
I’m in the process of changing all my guitars to locking Tuners. They are so worth it. My problem is some tuner holes need reaming and I feel like I’m doing heart surgery. “Oh Me nerves” as they say in Dublin 😂
Did installing these improving your tuning stability? This is the main reason I am considering upgrading mine to these locking tuners on my player strat. Currently the OEM tuners are all of equal length and I find that the angle of my g string over the nut is a bit too low. What do you guys think?
Locking tuners are worth, no winding, holds tune, I use whammy bar on a strat I have locking tuners on and it holds tune almost as good as a Jackson I have with floyd rose, however I do keep the stock low e tuner on so I can drop to d
I have an 07 MIA that came with those locking tuners and nice Bridge Saddles, but it was not a Strat Plus. Not exactly sure what model it is unless the previous owner installed them afterwards. But my Pro II has normal tuning machines and standard Saddles. I will be upgrading both of them. Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦. Your accent sounds like my fellow Canadian. Great video.
@@DimKAt21 I haven't installed 'em yet because I'd put a new set of strings on right before I bought the replacement tuners and I was being a tad lazy, but it looks like the locating pins are identical to the factory tuners on my Tribute Series ASAT Classic. I'll try to swap them out later today or tomorrow at the latest, and I'll drop you another reply to let you know how the staggered posts on the locking Fender set work out in practice. Theoretically they might make the string tree unnecessary, but unless it causes a problem I plan to leave it installed to avoid having to do something about the screw hole. My ASAT is either a 2020 or 2021 model, BTW, and I believe G&L have been using the same tuners for like a decade or more, so if yours is relatively recent, your results should match mine. 😁👍
Landon, nice video. When your are going to do the restring job, Fender recommends to set up the post holes according to a "wall clock" begining with hi E at 12 o'clock then B at 1 o'clock, and so on until low E at 5 o'clock. Maybe this may help...
There's actually 4 different post lengths. The back of the tuners are labeled 1(7), 2(7), 3(7) and 4(7). I have no idea which post goes where because it's not intuitive. One would think 1(7) and 2(7) would be similar heights but they are not. Anyone able to point to a video that explains this?
No. They're close enough to the nut to have sufficient break angle. The reason the higher strings need the short posts is because the strings have a straighter angle, since they're farther from the nut.
Your mother said if I like, subscribe, and comment the second visit is free.. so here I am. Just kidding, ill take this joke down if it's offensive. I love you man. My wife hits me so you can make fun of me for that.
I've installed those on my MIM strat and now I have a problem with G string ringing above the nut. String break angle is not enough, though G string tuner is staggered... And I don't want to install second string tree and add point of friction. Is there a proper way to fix it without any ugly damping foams etc. ?
I can't tell from photos on Fender's site. I believe your current tuners are Fstyle with screws. if so, you'll probably see the screw holes if you switch to locking tuners. Personally I wouldn't do the upgrade from those tuners
@@landonbailey Thanks for your input. I was curious because I'm thinking of getting the black locking tuners to go with the white/black design. So it's mainly for aesthetic purposes even though I like them for the practical side as well.
I am trying to put in these locking tuners on my knockoff strat but the tuning holes are too small, does anyone know what sizes I need to drill to? I can't seem to find anything on any websites
wait... so is it true that you can't down tune with the locking tuners? Now I'm just staring at these tuners wondering whether I should use them or not.
Unless you are pulling on the string tight enough to ring an E before locking, you should be able to tune down. Worst case, leave yourself a little extra slack on the strings you need to drop.
@@landonbailey thanks I have a 2020 Mexican so these machine heads should fit with no need to drill holes. Your video is really helpful. I think I’ll order some.
Hi, I just installed them on my Squier Bullet Mustang. At least for mine, I had to fill the original peg holes and redrill out new ones. Not too hard if you have a nice drill and a bit. It took me about an hour to fill, drill and attach the tuners to the neck.
Even though they're locking, you still should set a luthier's knot around each peg to ensure that the strings don't slip. Another tip is to use purple loctite on the nut so that you can ensure that they stay tight without putting too much tension. Thanks for the coverage, though!
I haven't tried but I would assume no. Typically Squier models don't follow the same specs as Usa and Mim guitars. They can probably work but may require some modding of the headstock holes.
@@landonbailey Cheers mate...got confused from others saying string tree was not needed but the tree is there and if everything works for you useing I will order a set and keep the tree in place and use too. Best, Mik
Just said two different lengths followed by 2 short and 2 long. Is that a bass telecaster? Go ahead, ask me about my assholebilities. I'll fill you in after a tangent and 22 fucking ads
I put these on my American Professional Tele, and MIM Standard Strat. Great upgrade, they have 18:1 gear ratio, (the regular tuners are 14:1)they minimize friction, and they make string changing super quick and easy.
Just replaced the tuners in my MIM strat with the lockers. What a difference. Should have done it two years ago when I bought the guitar. Thanks Landon!!!👍👍
If you use the whammy bar, you should try a SuperVee Mag-Lok too. I have one on my MIMStand, and it really works, it stops the bridge from rising unevenly during finger bends, which is 99% of what throws the stock system out of tune.
It’s like having a convertible hard tail - the bridge is stabilized when the whammy’s not in play, but you can still use the bar up, or down, whenever you want.
is your MIM a player series strat? if yes i'd like yo know if you had to pierce anything or if the holes are already here for adapting the blocking tuners?
Good upgrade. Your guitar is now more of a premium quality now.
@@z00mist87little late to the reply but the player series IS the made in Mexico one. Player stands for just us regular plebeians and to answer your question yes. The fender locking tuners should be compatible with all player strats as far as I’m aware. Honestly most fender parts are compatible with each other the only thing I’d worry about dimensions is the nut.
Doesn't that Tele sound great through the Marshall DSL20HR?
Timestamps:
0:00 - the guitar
0:15 - the tuners
0:25 - what we're doing
1:32 - the tools
1:47 - the installation
7:00 - sounds samples
Yes it does sound good 👍
Hi landon, i have one question regarding locking tuners: can you put them on a squier strat?
I say this because I've seen some discussions over the diameter of the headstock holes matters when installing ao not sure about that, thanks im advance.
Just got mine from Amazon. Putting them on my player series strat, and putting the old ones on my DIY Telecaster.
What wood are you using in your diy tele? I’m using cherry for mine
How has it been so far ? Are they staying in tune or are strings still slipping ??
@@RexyFan it stays in tune much better, as long as I don't get to crazy with the whammy bar.
@@echoeman
I use the whammy a lot.
No wonder my strings keep slipping.
Thanks for the tip (less whammy).
I have noticed in forums that people make snarky comments when folks ask about locking tuners. I put them on the guitars i use the most because mild arthritis make conventional stringing very difficult for me.
Use a socket. Keeps from slipping off and scratching or grinding a scratch in to the neck or tuner metal when tightening
👍🎸
I don't understand how people think you can't drop tune. Just don't pull it as hard before locking. Am I missing something lol
Some of us are perfectionists lol and even the slight tune difference ruines the song for us so we like these to keep the tune
Then you will wind the string when tuning it up to standard tuning which decreases tuning stability since there is more slop (the string can move and jump around more), and that kind of eliminates the purpose of locking tuners.
You can most certainly go down to drop D my dudes. You can get any tuning out of them. They work just like regular tuners besides locking the string in place. Sorry this guy doesn’t care about being knowledgeable about the turners he’s installing.
If I were planning to downtune as low as Drop C on strings I was going to stretch in E tuning, I might leave a tiny bit more slack than the guy in the video does before locking the tuners, to have that little bit of extra string to unravel when downtuning super far. With locking tuners you don't need to worry about grip nearly as much, but I imagine you wouldn't want your string hanging on by just the lock.
Just did my strat with your expertise. All is well! Thanks!
Glad it helped!
You were lucky. I’m doing the same to my MIK Tele but find the small pegs on the bottom of the new tuners don’t align with the holes existing for the old ones. Filled the old holes and am preparing to redrill them for the pin lock tuners. Wish me luck as I lack confidence using an electric hand drill on the guitar neck. I love pinlock tuners, and have them on 3 other guitars.
Well I got it done, but I had to fill the former holes with round toothpicks glued in as wood filler does not set hard enough.
so , I just did this upgrade to my 2001 squire standard strat. The two alignment holes for the tuners I removed were off from the fender locking tuners. not so easy. they were so close that the drill wanted to slide into the original hole. With a little work I got it. Idealy I should have plugged the original holes and then redrilled, but nah that would have been more work :)
you are my go-to person for my tele upgrades
Something you may never notice, but came to bite me, is after 5 strokes, I have lost the dexterity in my hands and fingers, that I didn't even know were required to change my guitar strings! Meaning that I am looking forward to saving up for getting some locking tuners! If they DO help? I will be greatly pleased!
I have mild arthritis and yes LTs do help!!
I’m in the process of changing all my guitars to locking Tuners. They are so worth it. My problem is some tuner holes need reaming and I feel like I’m doing heart surgery. “Oh Me nerves” as they say in Dublin 😂
Why would u risk scratching the new tuners with a wrench. A hex nut is much safer and easier.
I'm a daredevil
Locking Tuners is a game changer with Strats ! No wrap ...
Bubble wrap
Did installing these improving your tuning stability? This is the main reason I am considering upgrading mine to these locking tuners on my player strat. Currently the OEM tuners are all of equal length and I find that the angle of my g string over the nut is a bit too low. What do you guys think?
no. ruclips.net/video/Ua8IPrEVTy0/видео.html
@@landonbailey it all depends on the nut material. It’s not the tuners.
Locking tuners are worth, no winding, holds tune, I use whammy bar on a strat I have locking tuners on and it holds tune almost as good as a Jackson I have with floyd rose, however I do keep the stock low e tuner on so I can drop to d
I just got the American pro 2 roasted pine and before I play one note gold locking tuners baby yeah 👍 I used them in my MiM strat they are great!
I'm not sure why because I already had staggered tuners, after I installed these my American Professional plays even better.
Guitar magic!
Thanks for helping to clear it up..I second guessed myself for a minute! Thanks for posting..keep up the good work!
Glad it helped!
I have an 07 MIA that came with those locking tuners and nice Bridge Saddles, but it was not a Strat Plus. Not exactly sure what model it is unless the previous owner installed them afterwards. But my Pro II has normal tuning machines and standard Saddles. I will be upgrading both of them.
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦. Your accent sounds like my fellow Canadian. Great video.
cheers! I'm in Ottawa
@@landonbailey I lived in Ottawa for a while. Vanier to be exact. Fun city.
Nice video mate. Dig the lighting too!
thanks man! just trying something outside of the jam room. worked well
You need to get a poster of Edward van Halen up on that wall of yours
I like the looks of your tele. It could be my G&L Tribute ASAT Classic's long lost twin brother. 😉
could be!
@@DimKAt21 I haven't installed 'em yet because I'd put a new set of strings on right before I bought the replacement tuners and I was being a tad lazy, but it looks like the locating pins are identical to the factory tuners on my Tribute Series ASAT Classic. I'll try to swap them out later today or tomorrow at the latest, and I'll drop you another reply to let you know how the staggered posts on the locking Fender set work out in practice. Theoretically they might make the string tree unnecessary, but unless it causes a problem I plan to leave it installed to avoid having to do something about the screw hole. My ASAT is either a 2020 or 2021 model, BTW, and I believe G&L have been using the same tuners for like a decade or more, so if yours is relatively recent, your results should match mine. 😁👍
Great video mate! Congrats on the upgrade! :)
👍🎸
Landon, nice video. When your are going to do the restring job, Fender recommends to set up the post holes according to a "wall clock" begining with hi E at 12 o'clock then B at 1 o'clock, and so on until low E at 5 o'clock. Maybe this may help...
Thanks for the tip!
If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the purpose of this?
An upgrade or a sideways move ? I might consider locking tuners on a guitar with a trem but not my Tele . Don't even look at it lol 😊
How does it work if the neck is a reverse headstock if you have staggered tuners? Do you do it the same way?
I don't know why Fender locking tuners get a bad rap. I have them on both my strats and my tele, they have worked flawlessly for years.
same!
Gear snobs. They always gotta have something better
They are idiots. The tuners are freaking made by Schaller.
@@wnevermind2292 gear snobs are more concerned with expensive gear rather than their playing style lol. They're no better than pop stars
Nice upgrade and enjoyed the video. Tele sounds good whatever is in your chain!
hey thanks! Marshall dsl20hr into a Celestion Neo Creamback
There's actually 4 different post lengths. The back of the tuners are labeled 1(7), 2(7), 3(7) and 4(7). I have no idea which post goes where because it's not intuitive. One would think 1(7) and 2(7) would be similar heights but they are not. Anyone able to point to a video that explains this?
End up figuring it out? I would think you would put them in descending order
I didn’t mean to install my tuners in the wrong order I’m so dumb
easy fix!
Great video for a six inline.
Glad it helped
Great video Landon. What bridge pickup upgrade do you recommend for a MIM Tele for maximum spank?
if it's a Player series, I actually really like the stock pickups
Love the Twilight books on the shelf 👍👍
my wife's :)
@@landonbailey c'mon admit it. You read them too lol
Does it make sense to use the short post tuners for the wound strings since there are no trees there?
No. They're close enough to the nut to have sufficient break angle. The reason the higher strings need the short posts is because the strings have a straighter angle, since they're farther from the nut.
Your mother said if I like, subscribe, and comment the second visit is free.. so here I am.
Just kidding, ill take this joke down if it's offensive. I love you man. My wife hits me so you can make fun of me for that.
I'm all for the jokes! cheers! :)
So wait you cant drop tune and use locking tuners?
Probably have to do a wrap or two
hi sir.. which one would you prefer, or which one is the best. Fender locking tuner or gotoh?
I’ve only tried the Fender version, so I can’t say which is better :)
Hi. Does it show any markings left from the original tuners after you install the locking tuners?
No marks, they are a perfect swap.
@@landonbailey Thank you Landon. I'll keep watching.
What do you think of them being staggered?
I don’t even notice it :)
get a socket wrench my guy, holy moly
I've installed those on my MIM strat and now I have a problem with G string ringing above the nut. String break angle is not enough, though G string tuner is staggered... And I don't want to install second string tree and add point of friction. Is there a proper way to fix it without any ugly damping foams etc. ?
not that I know of, sorry
Roller or graphtec string trees for minimal friction, you’re life has been saved
Is it okay if the pin with the hole is slightly loose until the string is actually tightened?
Was thinking about putting this on my off-brand strat lol they should fit and it seems like a good upgrade?
the tuners are good. whether or not they will fit as a direct drop-in and no mods, I can't say
Will these fit on my Vintera 60's Telecaster seamlessly? Or will I need to drill bigger holes?
I can't tell from photos on Fender's site. I believe your current tuners are Fstyle with screws. if so, you'll probably see the screw holes if you switch to locking tuners. Personally I wouldn't do the upgrade from those tuners
@@landonbailey Thanks for your input. I was curious because I'm thinking of getting the black locking tuners to go with the white/black design. So it's mainly for aesthetic purposes even though I like them for the practical side as well.
Awesome & congrats !! :)
🎸👍
amo Telecaster
amo? tma (too many acronyms 😝)
I am trying to put in these locking tuners on my knockoff strat but the tuning holes are too small, does anyone know what sizes I need to drill to? I can't seem to find anything on any websites
What is the thickness of your headstock?
standard Fender specs
Do yours have any scratches, the ones i got are scratchest like crazy, very dissapointing.
no scratches. Sound like you got a second hand item, or just poorly produced
Great tutorial
thanks Ivan! super simple
My only problem is that I abuse the whammy on my strat so its kind of a must to upgrade to locking tuners for me.
wait... so is it true that you can't down tune with the locking tuners? Now I'm just staring at these tuners wondering whether I should use them or not.
Sorry I can't tell you, I've never tried
Unless you are pulling on the string tight enough to ring an E before locking, you should be able to tune down. Worst case, leave yourself a little extra slack on the strings you need to drop.
You can still still do drop D tuning or tune down half step (Ed)...
Great video , no need for screws then ?
that’s right. in this case no screws
@@landonbailey thanks I have a 2020 Mexican so these machine heads should fit with no need to drill holes. Your video is really helpful. I think I’ll order some.
Do they fit into a Squier Bullet Mustang?
I don't believe it's a direct fit.
Hi, I just installed them on my Squier Bullet Mustang. At least for mine, I had to fill the original peg holes and redrill out new ones. Not too hard if you have a nice drill and a bit. It took me about an hour to fill, drill and attach the tuners to the neck.
Even though they're locking, you still should set a luthier's knot around each peg to ensure that the strings don't slip.
Another tip is to use purple loctite on the nut so that you can ensure that they stay tight without putting too much tension.
Thanks for the coverage, though!
Loctite on the nut...? What??? Please don't do this people, idk what this dude is talking about.
Do you know if I can use these locking tuners with 008 strings?
yes that's fine
@@landonbailey Thanks for the fast respond. Can't wait to get my player tele after music stores are allowed to open up again.
Sweetwater has them for $44.00 American 🇺🇸
sweet deal
will these fit on a bb squier classic vibe telecaster?
are your first 3 frets worn a little bit?
not that I recall, did they appear that way in the video?
Lando27Music yes they did! I have the player strat series and I keep worrying about those nickel frets
Will these fit a squier headstock?
I haven't tried but I would assume no. Typically Squier models don't follow the same specs as Usa and Mim guitars. They can probably work but may require some modding of the headstock holes.
Work, but you have to drill the little holes so the tuners can fit in
Nice video thanks! Do you need to use the String tree with the staggered tuners?
they seem to on all their models. Pro Teles have staggered and tree strings.
@@landonbailey Cheers mate...got confused from others saying string tree was not needed but the tree is there and if everything works for you useing I will order a set and keep the tree in place and use too. Best, Mik
Is it Korea made tuners?
So the bass strings require the longer tuners and the treble strings require the shorter tuners? Boy did I mess this up on 3 of my fenders if so.
When u buy a instrument with pre installed locking tuners they don't wrap
Locking tuners give you better tone 😆
David Kastin That’s because they’re specially coated with “Tone Chrome”. 🤪
they taste better too
Lando27Music And they stay crunchy, even in milk! 😋
Get some ratchets my guy. Using an adjustable wrench is gross on your chrome.
good tip! I did, a couple years ago
@@landonbailey I know it's an older video. But the big metal teeth made me cringe. You have a nice tele and it hurt my eyes to see
You went to the expense of putting on locking tuners then put old strings back on ????
Did I?
Can't people just cut to the info? I came for the specs, not your riffbilities
Literally 106⅓ videos in a row
Just said two different lengths followed by 2 short and 2 long. Is that a bass telecaster?
Go ahead, ask me about my assholebilities. I'll fill you in after a tangent and 22 fucking ads
yes there are timestamps to do that
you sound like a nice person
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