After Dana spent all that time going against Francis, calling the fight with Fury a gimmick, now he's trying to steal the idea for Jon. That's pathetic. Dana could be spending this time setting up a Francis vs Jon crossover fight instead.
Yeah, instead of trying to set up HW version of Maywether McGregor Dana could instead secure the biggest payday/event ever for his direct business competitors.
Dana is a mixed bag. On the one hand he gives us a lot of the fights we want quickly, where boxing often struggles and fails, BUT Dana's ego has also ruined a lot of "could have been" situations in the history of MMA. Dana kept Fedor out of the UFC during his prime by being inflexible. He should have found a way to keep Francis. If you had to let him take breaks to box, whatever, do whatever it takes. I think Jones may fight Francis but it will be outside the UFC and it will be Dana's fault.
These aren't reliable when it comes to being active. Conor took both belts as a hostage for 2 years while Fury has 3 title defenses in 15 years as a pro heavyweight, which is extremely weak...
yeah combat sports fans are real suckers buying some of these dudes straight up lies. just look at the record and the chatter and it’s obvious who is down to fight or not. I believe Usyk, Joshua want to fight, and they did, 2x. Their resumes speak for themselves
@@langtryvlogmeI actually dont think Conor will actually fight Chandler .. Conor needs the sport too stay Relevant as a celebrity otherwise he just disappears an spends his money . Mayweather destroyed him with money lol
I agree with DC, Jon was absolutely sizing Francis up and this was him kinda challenging him as the king of the jungle. Jon was salivating at the chance at fighting Francis when they were face-to-face. Francis didn't back down either, he wants it just as bad
Then whyd he leave? Look at khabib, fought for a decade before belt shot.... Fought killers, prime barboza, prime rda... Then finished killers defending belt, effortlessly, justin, dustin..... Connor a healthy connor.... Decimated. Never lost a round, never ever looked in trouble...... EVER JON? lots.... Tons of lost rounds..... Tons of eye pokes, tons of steroids.... Thats the goat? Lul
Francis will grind him! That's the reason UFC doesn't want to make this fight happen. They prefer to call Jones the baddest man on planet while keeping him save.
@@mejorules Jon is nervous when facing Francis and Jon didn’t want to add a lost on his career reason why he came back after Francis left if Francis was still there at the UFC I am sure 200% Jon will still be taking the weight 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 since still now Francis hand is 4 times Jon hand. DC is just pleasing Dana.
He has grew on me when talking about MMA because he's a football guy and a former Steelers DB ay. But he's doin a great job and DC is there to make the points and RC can bounce off that.
@@ettorebugatti9354 Size and mass are not the same, after all, Jon has an advantage over Francis with his mass because he is faster, not to mention experience and knowledge and fight IQ of course. But anything can happen.
@@bazil6461 Isn't fastness in martial arts inversely proportional to mass? The comment above was in the sense that Francis has an advantage due to his greater mass compared to JJ. Follow the thread of conversation.
Jon gave up the 205 strap and decided that he was going to invest two solid years of his prime in order to make a run at Francis. You can’t say that Francis ran from Jon, he simply didn’t wait for Jon to get “ready”
I think RC was trying to state that if Dana could cross promote to make fury vs Jones, why he can't cross promote to make Francis vs Jones which is actually a MMA fight
It’s not corporate BS to protect your brand, it’s business basics. PFL only has one chance for a mega fight, UFC doesn’t need the crossover. The UFC has to bury Francis as well to deter people from leaving like he did
Why would the premier brand work with a much lesser-known brand that is trying to steal market share? This makes no sense for the UFC and Francis knows that. Dana is doing what he's supposed to do. "Corporate b/s." When you're running a company, you'd do the same.
i think Dana is afraid Francis could win over jones and this will change everything , in order words : Dana is afraid of taking that risk guys i tell you .He knows is jones dit loose; the man of the planet will be at the PFL not UFC he doesn’t want’s that if not why did he preferred to go after Fury , Jones and Francis are ready but Dana is scared of his guy loosing because it’s wouldn’t be good for his business, that’s wy he’s going on Fury taking no risk . give your comments on this please. peace out ✌️
Jon knows he can win , but if not ; he get at least the money. so he is confortable with any result at long as he’s getting that big pay 💰. just to say that fight is sure for no body : Francis is 100% sure he can win Jon , but i dont thing Jon jones is 100% sure of wining in his head : that’s wy Jon was feeling Ngannou arms 🤤🤤
The difference is Francis knows if he grazes jon Jones he’s sending him to the shadow realm… Jon knows he technically the baddest but he don’t know what happens if Francis touches him. Jon would look to take him down for sure
Tbf we didnt really get to see jones get tested in the heavyweight division and as we know, francis is capable of defending takedowns so this fight will always be interesting
Francis is capable of defending takedowns.. Have you even watch the Francis Gane fight..Look how easy Gane took Francis down..Image if Gane can..What Jones will be able to do.. Stop playing.
@@tootiemusicc357Did you even watch that fight? Ciryl went 1 for 3 on takedowns against Ngannou and the only reason he was successful on the last attempt was cuz it happened on the 5th round. Even then, Francis still got the better of it. Even the second Stipe fight, Francis looked significantly better defending takedowns. You dont think francis would fully prepare for Jones??? Matter of fact, all it takes for Ngannou is to land one punch on Jones and he goes to sleep. Stop it man. This fight is more of a threat for Jones than Francis.
@@amberxoxopinayfrancis would murder jones, jones is kinda overrated obly because he beat gane the worst wrestler in the heavyweight division jones almost lost to gustaffson and reyes, reyes is not good at all and he won the fight in my opinion but the ref always favour the champ , ngannou has an incredible take down defense hes working hard with the best wrestlers kamaru usman at example. Ngannou has such a good take down defense not even blaydes an elite wrestler couldnt take him down stipe miocic as well
@@amberxoxopinayngannou was waiting for jones 3years after he left ufc jones immerdiately joined the ufc again because he knew without ngannou i can be champion again
As much as I want this fight to happen, I'm also content with speculation rather than the actual outcome of this highly anticipated fight. I'm a JJ fan all the way and I'm fearful of his chances against Francis, who I also support profusely. After watching Frances literally maul Stipe, he just induced fear in me. Jon must never overlook the menace brought by Stipe, the guy is methodical and meticulous, I've witnessed him absolutely outthink and outmaneuver Francis in their first bout. Francis is a completely different animal, that's not to suggest that I'm downplaying the pedigree of JJ, but he is in a different division now and one can argue that he hasn't as yet asserted his dominance given that he's only endured one fight. I'm subconsciously hoping that this fight never actually materializes, I don't think I can digest JJ's lose and if there's one man on earth that has the capacity to bring about that eventuality it's Francis.
Yeah Francis is ridiculous. I think in all likelihood Jones wins because it's Jones, we all know his resume and his skills. But Francis has that freak power. Which on its own isn't that bad with someone as skilled as Jon Jones, but the technique of Francis improved and it improved quickly. If you look at his last 3 fights with Jairzinho, Stipe, and Ciryl, he doesn't even look like the same fighter after each fight. I'd love to see this fight, I think it'd be much more technical than people think.
Jon Jones will front leg kick the knees to throw off Francis timing he will keep the distance till he tired him out then start clinching and using his wrestling god forbid he starts throwing spinning elbows etc....Francis has not seen anything like Bones and he will not know what hit him trust me.
@@tonyjames2144 my man with Francis you need precision, you can't make any mistake that exposes you in anyway or you'll wake up on the canvas. His aggression, brute and raw power is really something to dread and Jon's weight and muscles have slowed down a bit it's just that Cyril wasn't a worthy opponent to pokes holes in his defense. But I agree that JJ will be a favorite in light of his record, I'm just afraid to experience a JJ lose.
@@bikosankara7417 let's just hope Francis and Dana continue with their workplace politics conflicts long enough for Francis to let go of his hopes of ever returning to the octagon. Or else JJ's record will be imperiled, I'm stating this as fact. That guy is more technical, brutal and he will be an underdog which will fuel him profusely.
Jon isn't scared, but you could tell he was more concerned about Francis' physique than vice versa. Francis couldn't care less about Jon's frame, he was the more confident one of the two in their interaction.
I'm honestly doubtful that Jon isn't at least a little bit scared. The guy's practically undefeated & would be risking his 0/untarnished legacy. He knows he's the GOAT but at the same time he's also disclosed his pre-fight partying ritual in the past. Who does that? Somebody with a neurotic personality. Francis doesn't have any of those fears bc he's seen as the baddest man & has the intimidation factor that Jon lacks. Jon even tried to size up Ciryl so he wouldn't be as intimidated. Either way, it's prob the coolest story for a fight I can think of.
Jon had multiple opportunities to fight Francis, including before he was even champ. I remember Francis accepting the fight and Jon asking for money McGregor can only dream of in the UFC. If Jon really wanted the fight he would have taken it when Francis was still in the UFC. Instead he waited for Francis to leave and how quick he came out of his sabbatical to take on Gane. Either way if Francis lands the way Gus or Reyes did, it's light out for the juice GOAT. You can see the size difference- Francis is a natural heavyweight Jones is a blown up light heavy.
I think that Jon would be the favorite against Francis because he is the more skilled fighter. However, all it takes is one punch for Francis to change the direction of the fight. I hope the fight happens one day.
Unless Francis goes back to UFC it isn’t happening. UFC genuinely has no reason to make that happen. PFL doesn’t bring any added business to them and they’re not setting a precedent that you can leave like he did and still get the fight.
At the same time he has faced extremely hard hitters. Rampage, gus and Santos come to mind. Cyril hits like a truck too, but Jones' takedowns are too good. But I get that Francis is a different animal altogether.
@@PK-sc2vnthe hard truth is…Francis is completely one dimensional compared to Jones…Jones will work that body and then he will take Francis down and work him…a Jones definitely can avoid all that power and fire him out…that’s how this is going to go lol
@@PK-sc2vnI think that Cyril fight is a really bad measuring stick for gauging anything. 1. Cyril didn't land a single shot so you can't really say how well Jones will deal with hw power. 2. He was clearly scared of Jones from the very start
@@suf1an658 guy who commented above had mentioned Jones' chin too. I've never seen him phased or in trouble once. But again, getting hit by Francis is different
@blazzz13 yeah but i believe the thinking is mighty mouse is the most fundamentally sound and puts it together silky smooth but he weighs 120 lbs... francis and jon are talking in terms of baddest man alive i believe and that is in my opinion undebateable
RUclips the video, "The peoples history if jon jones vs Francis Ngannou" if you want to know the real truth about why this fight never happened. dont listen to the casuals in the comments
Here's the thing with Jon. There has not been a moment where he felt the fighter across from him could beat him. Call it cocky or whatever you want but every fight he goes into there isnt a single % of doubt in his mind that he's walking out the winner.
You clearly don’t know that Jon said he was scared shot of rampage Jackson and thought rampage would knock him out. So you don’t know what you’re talking about
@@bernardt3779 I was just coming to write this lol. Jon Jones had nightmares every night of him getting knocked out early in the first round no matter what he did. The night of the fight he decided to crawl into the octagon because he never got knocked out doing that in any of his nightmares. Now that's his signature
If you delve deeper into what Jon has said and his decisions on the fights he wants to take/refuse, he is actually sometimes afraid that some fighters might actually get a chance to beat him. He did not want to rematch Lyoto Machida and he does not like the idea of fighting anyone who's unorthodox. In fact, he did not even want to fight Chael Sonnen, which lead to one of the more well known rants by Dana White (UFC 151 Cancellation).
DC whenever he has to talk about jon jones he looks he’s about to cry😂😂😂 so much bitterness. Reminds me of Jon jones saying: “you were on Caine valesquezes shoulder crying, but I’m the b****?”
Nah DC is fan boying about Jon’s interaction with Francis. I think the reason why Jon was touching him is to try and psycho himself into believing he should not be scared of Francis. However, Francis was the one that look completely unphased and fearless imo!
why does no one ever just be like lets have a kickboxing match. they use actual boxing gloves and Jones can’t use his wrestling which is VERY good for Tyson cause he’ll have his boxing at all times but Jones can throw kicks to make it a little more even. maybe even let them throw elbows and knees in the clinch. i don’t know. meet in the middle.. simple. feel like thats the best option. let them kickbox.
@@amberxoxopinay its better than taking him down with wrestling where he has ZERO chance.. im not saying allow those things just see how they could since the fight will always be on the feet. can’t allow Tyson to have the full advantage.
@@bigjallday110 Fury with those boxing gloves could learn and do a much better job defending those kicks rather then defending his takedowns. ya’ll seem to be missing that point. no wrestling already. now no kicks… and you got yourself a boxing match.. which automatically means Fury wins..
@@Sssensei11 no matter how much Fury trains to defend leg kicks, he’s not going to be ready. I’ve done kick boxing and a lot of kicking techniques we practice come very unexpected to someone that doesn’t even train kickboxing. I’ve seen fighter collapse from a simple leg kick at my gym. Jon would leave Fury in crutches in a kick boxing bout.
Are we gonna pretend! Ngannou gave Jones the blue print on how to beat Gane. Ngannou has beaten all those high level wrestlers, Cain, Curtis, Stipe, Overeem etc.. Jones is no different. Jones was wise to re-sign with the UFC after Ngannou left. Now his real challenge will be to beat a 40 yr old Stipe, but I see he is still playing his delaying tactics for Stipe to get older. I thought they stated the Stipe-Jones fight will be in July? Ha ha.
Come one man Johns always had the blueprint everyone knew since his first fight he had no ground game was a striker we seen that with Derrick Lewis he was a hype train he was scared to bang. then stipe layed the ground work how to beat him. Who.cares bout gane I knew he'd never be champ.
Ngannou was in contract negotiations for like 2 years. His deluded management and him negotiated him outside the UFC real quick before Jon decided to come back. Thats the truth. Your boy ran to the C League to fight.... who is he fighting 😂😂😂😂😂
He was really scared of Ngannou's size because he knows he wouldn't be able to execute his fight plan. Jons looked scared and seriously perturbed, and he has to be because he hasn't fought someone of Ngannou's power and size. Jones is very concerned about size: he doesn't beat fighters of the same reach and size. He would respect Stipe more now as he tamed Ngannou in the first fight at least. The only fighter I've seen not concerned about the opponents' size and power is prime Fedor, and that's why he's GOAT!
It would only be good if it was other tales like the illiad or clash of the Titans type movie, Troy was a real even, but mythic at the same time like in the Odyssey
@@investornabil8825😄 Jones nor anyone else can take a punch from Francis. I don't care how technical he is. It only takes one shot from him. Jones has never fought anyone with that much KO power
I would love to see Dana White and the CEO of the PFL lose their egos so we can see this fight happen. This fight is big enough to be advertised across both fight promotions.
Jon hiding for 3 years to essentially gain 15-20 lbs tells me a completely different story. Well known he would walk around at 240 when he was in LHW. Weighs in at 248 for Ciryl Gane, probably 260 on fight night. Anyone who's ever tried to get bigger in a gym knows it wouldn't take them 3 years to gain 15-20 lbs and on top of that show up on fight night pudgy. Which tells you a lot of that gain wasn't lean muscle mass. Tells me that the man was terrified of Francis and wanted any reason to not fight him but didn't want the public to know.
Thank you. I'm glad someone else finally keyed in on that: the ONLY reason Jon needed to put on all that weight, was for a potential fight against Ngannou. LHW Jon could annihilate 99.8% of the current ufc HW roster, excluding Sergei. Aside from that, it's Francis.
Jones could not get passed some one challenging him with out feeling disrespected. He lightened up after Francis said play the game Jon dont let the game play you. Its all business.
Black and white ignorance will never stop, it's always about who's selling if he/she ain't white I ain't buying Soo ridiculous but we're all humans at the end of the day
JJ: "I'm the king" FN: "In your division. In HW, I'm the baddest man on the planet." One of them has been caught with drugs. The other is pure, doesn't need to eat to maintain his weight. Talk all you want. Makes no difference.
I forgot the MMA world even exist cause of spence vs crawford. I can honestly say after a lifelong journey as an MMA fan I’m not excited for anything but a boxing match….. it’s so crazy years ago I would’ve been estatic over this match up … spence and crawford dwarf everything it’s literally the best fight that can be made in all of combat sports. Sad, but harsh reality for me.
The GOAT Jon Jones is not intimidated at all by Nganou. He has always been the best, the king. Nganou is much more intimidated, but not scared either. Really hope they make this fight happen. JJ is going to beat Nganou, unless Nganou lands a lucky punch. And with Nganou's power, even a jab is enough so he is definetely dangerous.
Jon Jones so much more well rounded martial artist but in that moment if Francis it's John Jones he knocking him out cold there's not many human beings ever to walk this Earth with power like his
I don’t feel like Jones would win, but to the reach point. Jones has 1/2” less of reach. He’s 6’5 fury is 6’8 they’re both huge. Size wouldn’t be a big disadvantage. The cardio and experience is the disadvantage.
Demetrious Johnson just had a hybrid fight before his last fight for the title . I’m pretty sure we can make this work if he can make it work and get the job done.
Bro if there is any kicking Involved, Tyson is not getting out alive. RC is the perfect guy to cover this sport because he is an actual fan of mma and follows the sports.
Listen, I don't think either man is afraid of the other. But for Jon, it is really easy to have confidence with someone you know you can't fight. Let's be serious!!!
U all forget what Frances Ngannou said. Jones said he is the King, France replied in your division. Jones I had to take time off to get to heavyweight. Jones said u gonna wrestle, France , I have be waiting to three years meaning u think I can wrestle? Frances win the the conversation and he gave him a piece of advice "play the game don't let the game plays u" then he was more composed.
The only thing with Fury vs. Jones (or Francis for that matter) would be boxing with 4OZ MMA gloves. Take away the silly boxing guard while still giving Tyson a chance to survive
After Dana spent all that time going against Francis, calling the fight with Fury a gimmick, now he's trying to steal the idea for Jon. That's pathetic. Dana could be spending this time setting up a Francis vs Jon crossover fight instead.
That's business. Morals and smart business have never aligned.
Why couldn’t he let Francis do it
Yeah, instead of trying to set up HW version of Maywether McGregor Dana could instead secure the biggest payday/event ever for his direct business competitors.
Dana is a mixed bag. On the one hand he gives us a lot of the fights we want quickly, where boxing often struggles and fails, BUT Dana's ego has also ruined a lot of "could have been" situations in the history of MMA. Dana kept Fedor out of the UFC during his prime by being inflexible. He should have found a way to keep Francis. If you had to let him take breaks to box, whatever, do whatever it takes. I think Jones may fight Francis but it will be outside the UFC and it will be Dana's fault.
@@anarchy1090 exactly
Would’ve loved to of seen DCs face when RC said “many have tried and many have failed” with so much conviction 😂😂
Many have tried. All have failed.
Many have tried ..Doper Jones hid under the cage
5:00 Jon is a combination of a sociopath and a psychopath. Hes the greatest combat athlete thats ever lived.
@@noone8118that was for the athletic commission not USADA, also why didn’t belfort go on a championship reign like that
I love the Troy reference one of my fav movies
DC just reminded me of how he also stood in front of usually bigger video game level mf monsters his whole career.
People really forget how undersized DC was. And was still ragdolling niggas😂
Dc and other great heavyweights like Cain and Fedor prove how overrated height is. It’s about distance management. Ify tho fam.
@@7reasons617short king
I’ll never believe a word from Fury
Nor from Conor. "I wanna stay active, fight 2-3 timed a year"
Doesn't even get into the USADA Pool
These aren't reliable when it comes to being active. Conor took both belts as a hostage for 2 years while Fury has 3 title defenses in 15 years as a pro heavyweight, which is extremely weak...
Smart, at least someone gets it
yeah combat sports fans are real suckers buying some of these dudes straight up lies. just look at the record and the chatter and it’s obvious who is down to fight or not. I believe Usyk, Joshua want to fight, and they did, 2x. Their resumes speak for themselves
@@langtryvlogmeI actually dont think Conor will actually fight Chandler .. Conor needs the sport too stay Relevant as a celebrity otherwise he just disappears an spends his money . Mayweather destroyed him with money lol
I agree with DC, Jon was absolutely sizing Francis up and this was him kinda challenging him as the king of the jungle. Jon was salivating at the chance at fighting Francis when they were face-to-face. Francis didn't back down either, he wants it just as bad
Then whyd he leave? Look at khabib, fought for a decade before belt shot.... Fought killers, prime barboza, prime rda... Then finished killers defending belt, effortlessly, justin, dustin..... Connor a healthy connor.... Decimated. Never lost a round, never ever looked in trouble......
EVER
JON? lots.... Tons of lost rounds..... Tons of eye pokes, tons of steroids....
Thats the goat? Lul
@@holeindanssock156 yea I'm laughing at your comment too
“Conor, a healthy Conor” nah you clowning 🤣☠️
@@holeindanssock156 🤡
Francis will grind him! That's the reason UFC doesn't want to make this fight happen. They prefer to call Jones the baddest man on planet while keeping him save.
He shook Ngannou’s hand more times in a minute than he did DC throughout his whole career.
That’s nervous energy my man. Like I said before, in that face off Francis won!
@@mejorules that’s what I’m saying. Cormier said Jones acted the same way with him
@@mejorules Jon is nervous when facing Francis and Jon didn’t want to add a lost on his career reason why he came back after Francis left if Francis was still there at the UFC I am sure 200% Jon will still be taking the weight 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 since still now Francis hand is 4 times Jon hand. DC is just pleasing Dana.
@@edwin9210 DC is a massive shill for the UFC. Even tho he probably wants to say Jones is afraid, he can't lol.
You guys are just Jon Jones haters. Let me guess, you lose a lot of money because he beat all of your favorite fighters 🤣🤣🤣
Rc gets better every show loving his progression on the show
Man sometimes RC makes some points that leave me like... Sheesh he's right 🤔 never thought of it that way
Haha love it.
He has grew on me when talking about MMA because he's a football guy and a former Steelers DB ay. But he's doin a great job and DC is there to make the points and RC can bounce off that.
He said ngannou is wearing Nigerian garments
Francis looks massive standing next to Jon. This would be an epic fight, power versus technique and fight IQ.
Not massive at all compared to Jon. Not even 1 percent. Looks pretty evenly matched from a nonbiased point of view.
@@ShaDusK There's at least 20lbs difference there. Francis is usually around 290 while Jones is 255-260 at top.
@@ettorebugatti9354 Size and mass are not the same, after all, Jon has an advantage over Francis with his mass because he is faster, not to mention experience and knowledge and fight IQ of course. But anything can happen.
@@mickeymomighty5660now you are going off topic taking about fastness
@@bazil6461 Isn't fastness in martial arts inversely proportional to mass? The comment above was in the sense that Francis has an advantage due to his greater mass compared to JJ. Follow
the thread of conversation.
I have a ton of respect for DC being able to commentate on Jones and give him props considering their past rivalry. He's a true Champion
Jon gave up the 205 strap and decided that he was going to invest two solid years of his prime in order to make a run at Francis. You can’t say that Francis ran from Jon, he simply didn’t wait for Jon to get “ready”
I agree 💯 percent
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Idiot
In all honesty I like Jon but no ones scared of anyone they both just want too much money to fight.
I think RC was trying to state that if Dana could cross promote to make fury vs Jones, why he can't cross promote to make Francis vs Jones which is actually a MMA fight
dana cant do that simply cause if francis won then the ufc heavyweight belt almost becomes less significant than the pfl heavyweight belt
@@scottiepaterson192I mean “i Guess” but bro was literally the last ufc championship and hasn’t even fought yet in pfl so
Daniel cormier is hilarious and also was lethal in the octagon love to see more of his interviews
DC is butthurt
Imagine if you ran into DC at a gas station somewhere and he had the HW belt on. 😂😂
Then he chugs a modelo in front of you.
@@thehoodedvagabum7375you think I'm just gonna stand there and let you take my Modelo?
I love that DC keeps it real, even about it former Rival and enemy
There is a way it could happen, it's just Dana and corporate bs
It’s not corporate BS to protect your brand, it’s business basics. PFL only has one chance for a mega fight, UFC doesn’t need the crossover.
The UFC has to bury Francis as well to deter people from leaving like he did
Why would the premier brand work with a much lesser-known brand that is trying to steal market share? This makes no sense for the UFC and Francis knows that. Dana is doing what he's supposed to do. "Corporate b/s." When you're running a company, you'd do the same.
They already had the fight set up in the UFC. No point now.
That would be a dumb idea for Dana. Share your exposure with a small upcoming organisation?
@@ct0332 who gives a shi? people gonna be watching pfl one time then leave
This is for everybody Francis you could tell that Francis is not afraid of Jon Jones clearly he will fight him and I think Jon Jones knows that
He's brave because he's across the street
Absolutely Francis would fight Jones! But the sad thing is Jones would embarrass him and I don’t want to see that! I like Francis
i think Dana is afraid Francis could win over jones and this will change everything , in order words : Dana is afraid of taking that risk guys i tell you .He knows is jones dit loose; the man of the planet will be at the PFL not UFC he doesn’t want’s that if not why did he preferred to go after Fury , Jones and Francis are ready but Dana is scared of his guy loosing because it’s wouldn’t be good for his business, that’s wy he’s going on Fury taking no risk . give your comments on this please. peace out ✌️
But is jon scared i don’t think so
Jon knows he can win , but if not ; he get at least the money. so he is confortable with any result at long as he’s getting that big pay 💰. just to say that fight is sure for no body : Francis is 100% sure he can win Jon , but i dont thing Jon jones is 100% sure of wining in his head : that’s wy Jon was feeling Ngannou arms 🤤🤤
A cross promotion can happen, dana just doesn’t want it to happen because fighters will follow suit
Dana doesn't want this to happen because he had absolutely nothing to gain from it. He would finance dumb deals the PFL is offering.
The difference is Francis knows if he grazes jon Jones he’s sending him to the shadow realm…
Jon knows he technically the baddest but he don’t know what happens if Francis touches him.
Jon would look to take him down
for sure
RC gets better every episode i love what he adds to the topics now
Tbf we didnt really get to see jones get tested in the heavyweight division and as we know, francis is capable of defending takedowns so this fight will always be interesting
Francis is capable of defending takedowns.. Have you even watch the Francis Gane fight..Look how easy Gane took Francis down..Image if Gane can..What Jones will be able to do..
Stop playing.
@@tootiemusicc357I’m surprised u even entertained that asinine comment from him💀 he clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about
Jones is going to sleep. Period.
@@tootiemusicc357Did you even watch that fight? Ciryl went 1 for 3 on takedowns against Ngannou and the only reason he was successful on the last attempt was cuz it happened on the 5th round. Even then, Francis still got the better of it.
Even the second Stipe fight, Francis looked significantly better defending takedowns. You dont think francis would fully prepare for Jones???
Matter of fact, all it takes for Ngannou is to land one punch on Jones and he goes to sleep. Stop it man. This fight is more of a threat for Jones than Francis.
@@504Native hes not gonna let you smash bro, you doing tricks on it 💀
Great breakdown by RC on that JJ face off. Exactly what I was thinking, there’s no way a guy like Jon Jones knows what fear is
Not since Rampage
Naw . That wasn’t Jon jones nomore 🤫🤣🤣💪💪💪
Try jumping off the cliff without a parachute. Jon Jones knows what fear is.
Love these guys, always bring me to a big a smile!
Troy analogy was great “ Hectorrrrrrr” Aka come get this work in front of yo friends and family
Francis won the stare down. Francis looked more confident & comfortable. Jon was acting very shifty.
Doesn’t make a difference Francis doesn’t stand a chance..only chance is that right hand.
Cocaine makes u shifty, id know. Also, jons a pos steroid eye poker. Cocaine, steroids, eye pokes is his legacy...
Francis "crying baby aka arrogant POS" Ngannou has no chance and you know it very well
@@amberxoxopinayfrancis would murder jones, jones is kinda overrated obly because he beat gane the worst wrestler in the heavyweight division jones almost lost to gustaffson and reyes, reyes is not good at all and he won the fight in my opinion but the ref always favour the champ , ngannou has an incredible take down defense hes working hard with the best wrestlers kamaru usman at example. Ngannou has such a good take down defense not even blaydes an elite wrestler couldnt take him down stipe miocic as well
@@amberxoxopinayngannou was waiting for jones 3years after he left ufc jones immerdiately joined the ufc again because he knew without ngannou i can be champion again
RC gave me goosebumps talking about Troy
Get up prince of Troy, get up ! I won't let a stone steal my glory!
Is there anyone else?
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ?
Definitely one of my favorite movies
To be fair DC did think Askren was gonna knockout Jake paul after their faceoff. Lol
As much as I want this fight to happen, I'm also content with speculation rather than the actual outcome of this highly anticipated fight. I'm a JJ fan all the way and I'm fearful of his chances against Francis, who I also support profusely. After watching Frances literally maul Stipe, he just induced fear in me. Jon must never overlook the menace brought by Stipe, the guy is methodical and meticulous, I've witnessed him absolutely outthink and outmaneuver Francis in their first bout. Francis is a completely different animal, that's not to suggest that I'm downplaying the pedigree of JJ, but he is in a different division now and one can argue that he hasn't as yet asserted his dominance given that he's only endured one fight. I'm subconsciously hoping that this fight never actually materializes, I don't think I can digest JJ's lose and if there's one man on earth that has the capacity to bring about that eventuality it's Francis.
Yeah Francis is ridiculous. I think in all likelihood Jones wins because it's Jones, we all know his resume and his skills. But Francis has that freak power. Which on its own isn't that bad with someone as skilled as Jon Jones, but the technique of Francis improved and it improved quickly. If you look at his last 3 fights with Jairzinho, Stipe, and Ciryl, he doesn't even look like the same fighter after each fight. I'd love to see this fight, I think it'd be much more technical than people think.
Jon Jones will front leg kick the knees to throw off Francis timing he will keep the distance till he tired him out then start clinching and using his wrestling god forbid he starts throwing spinning elbows etc....Francis has not seen anything like Bones and he will not know what hit him trust me.
@@tonyjames2144 my man with Francis you need precision, you can't make any mistake that exposes you in anyway or you'll wake up on the canvas. His aggression, brute and raw power is really something to dread and Jon's weight and muscles have slowed down a bit it's just that Cyril wasn't a worthy opponent to pokes holes in his defense. But I agree that JJ will be a favorite in light of his record, I'm just afraid to experience a JJ lose.
You raising very good points but JJ will defeat anyone put infront of him this year and latest next year not more than that.
@@bikosankara7417 let's just hope Francis and Dana continue with their workplace politics conflicts long enough for Francis to let go of his hopes of ever returning to the octagon. Or else JJ's record will be imperiled, I'm stating this as fact. That guy is more technical, brutal and he will be an underdog which will fuel him profusely.
Whenever RC tries to act excited, he fails😢
Bros too monotoned lol
I don't care. I like the guy
He's terrible
he is anything but likeable.
And btw. why should ngannou wear a nigerian robe, when hes from cameroon? lol
Bad journalism
@@F10cke lol that shows your lack of knowledge about African culture...this dress is worn in Nigeria too, even in Ghana and Senegal for certain tribes
These 2 together.. they got something here
Jon isn't scared, but you could tell he was more concerned about Francis' physique than vice versa. Francis couldn't care less about Jon's frame, he was the more confident one of the two in their interaction.
LOL ya right jon has way more skills an ways to end the fight franny has one an jon has a gigachad chin what r u on about jon was way more confident
To be fair francis has always been like that but it didn’t stop Stipe from dominating him
You might be retxrded
i disagree.
I'm honestly doubtful that Jon isn't at least a little bit scared. The guy's practically undefeated & would be risking his 0/untarnished legacy.
He knows he's the GOAT but at the same time he's also disclosed his pre-fight partying ritual in the past. Who does that? Somebody with a neurotic personality.
Francis doesn't have any of those fears bc he's seen as the baddest man & has the intimidation factor that Jon lacks. Jon even tried to size up Ciryl so he wouldn't be as intimidated.
Either way, it's prob the coolest story for a fight I can think of.
This was one of your best clips
Sometimes promotions must work together to put on dream fights.
dc and jon needa have a kobe and shaq interview moment
Jon jones and Tyson fury should do a Thai boxing match
Jon was just being friendly here there was no sizing up. Jon to me looked so confident that he doesn’t have to take Ngannou seriously.
Jon had multiple opportunities to fight Francis, including before he was even champ. I remember Francis accepting the fight and Jon asking for money McGregor can only dream of in the UFC. If Jon really wanted the fight he would have taken it when Francis was still in the UFC. Instead he waited for Francis to leave and how quick he came out of his sabbatical to take on Gane. Either way if Francis lands the way Gus or Reyes did, it's light out for the juice GOAT. You can see the size difference- Francis is a natural heavyweight Jones is a blown up light heavy.
haters got to hate; its prize fighting, you fight for money
You’re just chatting nonsense.
Why would jones move up and fight a contender lmao
Bruh you a fool jones by murder
Also francis doesn't have the speed nor the precision. His technique isn't good as gus or reyes too.
I think that Jon would be the favorite against Francis because he is the more skilled fighter. However, all it takes is one punch for Francis to change the direction of the fight. I hope the fight happens one day.
Unless Francis goes back to UFC it isn’t happening. UFC genuinely has no reason to make that happen. PFL doesn’t bring any added business to them and they’re not setting a precedent that you can leave like he did and still get the fight.
Jon dodged the two biggest KO threats in his path: prime Rumble and prime Ngannou. Both had monstrous momentum at the times they were sidestepped.
Jon has a granite chin in case you don't know but these fights would indeed have been fun to watch.
At the same time he has faced extremely hard hitters. Rampage, gus and Santos come to mind. Cyril hits like a truck too, but Jones' takedowns are too good. But I get that Francis is a different animal altogether.
@@PK-sc2vnthe hard truth is…Francis is completely one dimensional compared to Jones…Jones will work that body and then he will take Francis down and work him…a Jones definitely can avoid all that power and fire him out…that’s how this is going to go lol
@@PK-sc2vnI think that Cyril fight is a really bad measuring stick for gauging anything. 1. Cyril didn't land a single shot so you can't really say how well Jones will deal with hw power. 2. He was clearly scared of Jones from the very start
@@suf1an658 guy who commented above had mentioned Jones' chin too. I've never seen him phased or in trouble once. But again, getting hit by Francis is different
Props to dc for calling it down the middle , respect
DC said Jon believes hes always been the best... don't we all ?
He can back it up
Mighty mouse is the GOAT. No asterisks like Reyes and Santos and of course 💉
@blazzz13 yeah but i believe the thinking is mighty mouse is the most fundamentally sound and puts it together silky smooth but he weighs 120 lbs... francis and jon are talking in terms of baddest man alive i believe and that is in my opinion undebateable
@@blazzz13can mighty beat Jones?
I love how DC acknowledges Jon Jones psycopathy
RUclips the video, "The peoples history if jon jones vs Francis Ngannou" if you want to know the real truth about why this fight never happened. dont listen to the casuals in the comments
Love the Ryan Clark 'Arquilles' comparison
That facoeoff told me that somebody's lying about their height. Francis is clearly taller. Both listed as 6'4".
Francis was wearing Nigerian high heels
@@arthurbrown4984shut up African American girl
Woah RC came with the Achilles analogy 😮.
Here's the thing with Jon. There has not been a moment where he felt the fighter across from him could beat him. Call it cocky or whatever you want but every fight he goes into there isnt a single % of doubt in his mind that he's walking out the winner.
You clearly don’t know that Jon said he was scared shot of rampage Jackson and thought rampage would knock him out. So you don’t know what you’re talking about
@@bernardt3779 I was just coming to write this lol. Jon Jones had nightmares every night of him getting knocked out early in the first round no matter what he did. The night of the fight he decided to crawl into the octagon because he never got knocked out doing that in any of his nightmares. Now that's his signature
If you delve deeper into what Jon has said and his decisions on the fights he wants to take/refuse, he is actually sometimes afraid that some fighters might actually get a chance to beat him. He did not want to rematch Lyoto Machida and he does not like the idea of fighting anyone who's unorthodox. In fact, he did not even want to fight Chael Sonnen, which lead to one of the more well known rants by Dana White (UFC 151 Cancellation).
Listening to you two guys, that's how you sell a f******fight. Great job guys. I can't wait to see this fight now.
DC whenever he has to talk about jon jones he looks he’s about to cry😂😂😂 so much bitterness. Reminds me of Jon jones saying: “you were on Caine valesquezes shoulder crying, but I’m the b****?”
Jon took his hat off. That’s respect.
Nah DC is fan boying about Jon’s interaction with Francis. I think the reason why Jon was touching him is to try and psycho himself into believing he should not be scared of Francis. However, Francis was the one that look completely unphased and fearless imo!
why does no one ever just be like lets have a kickboxing match. they use actual boxing gloves and Jones can’t use his wrestling which is VERY good for Tyson cause he’ll have his boxing at all times but Jones can throw kicks to make it a little more even. maybe even let them throw elbows and knees in the clinch. i don’t know. meet in the middle.. simple. feel like thats the best option. let them kickbox.
Letting Jones use his knees and elbows is an automatic L for Tyson Fury….LMAO.
@@amberxoxopinay its better than taking him down with wrestling where he has ZERO chance.. im not saying allow those things just see how they could since the fight will always be on the feet. can’t allow Tyson to have the full advantage.
Those kicks would finish Fury within the first round
@@bigjallday110 Fury with those boxing gloves could learn and do a much better job defending those kicks rather then defending his takedowns. ya’ll seem to be missing that point. no wrestling already. now no kicks… and you got yourself a boxing match.. which automatically means Fury wins..
@@Sssensei11 no matter how much Fury trains to defend leg kicks, he’s not going to be ready. I’ve done kick boxing and a lot of kicking techniques we practice come very unexpected to someone that doesn’t even train kickboxing. I’ve seen fighter collapse from a simple leg kick at my gym. Jon would leave Fury in crutches in a kick boxing bout.
I love that R.C referenced the movie Troy. That scene was ultimately badass
They’re both really 6’4”. They actually were the same height and eye to eye.
Francis is easily 6'5
@@unclejunior2668 Jon is 6'3½ and Francis is a proper 6'4
Francis clearly taller
@@flyingmonkeJones is a legit 6'4 my friend, or else prove me wrong...
@@eldonfernandes8069 check out celeb heights
[3:00] When Jon was touching Francis' arm he wasn't sizing Francis up, he was expressing dominance over him.
Funny how Jon wants to face off now that Francis is long gone.
Jones beats francis 10 out of 10 times
DC is a genuine dude tbh
Are we gonna pretend! Ngannou gave Jones the blue print on how to beat Gane. Ngannou has beaten all those high level wrestlers, Cain, Curtis, Stipe, Overeem etc.. Jones is no different. Jones was wise to re-sign with the UFC after Ngannou left. Now his real challenge will be to beat a 40 yr old Stipe, but I see he is still playing his delaying tactics for Stipe to get older. I thought they stated the Stipe-Jones fight will be in July? Ha ha.
Francis gave no blue print. It’s common sense to wrestle someone who is a kickboxer
Another casual fan seems to coming into the sport like weeds these days 🤣🤡
Come one man Johns always had the blueprint everyone knew since his first fight he had no ground game was a striker we seen that with Derrick Lewis he was a hype train he was scared to bang. then stipe layed the ground work how to beat him. Who.cares bout gane I knew he'd never be champ.
Jon can’t beat Stipe. That’s why they haven’t made that fight. Stipe has bulked up and is fresh and rested now.
Ngannou was in contract negotiations for like 2 years. His deluded management and him negotiated him outside the UFC real quick before Jon decided to come back. Thats the truth.
Your boy ran to the C League to fight.... who is he fighting 😂😂😂😂😂
DC having a bunch of pictures of himself on a shelf behind him is hilarious
He was really scared of Ngannou's size because he knows he wouldn't be able to execute his fight plan. Jons looked scared and seriously perturbed, and he has to be because he hasn't fought someone of Ngannou's power and size. Jones is very concerned about size: he doesn't beat fighters of the same reach and size. He would respect Stipe more now as he tamed Ngannou in the first fight at least.
The only fighter I've seen not concerned about the opponents' size and power is prime Fedor, and that's why he's GOAT!
😂😂 Cyril gane had gone upto 5 rounds with Francis but jones finished gane in less than 2 mins🤷🤷 you have got your answer
Fedor gayboy didn't even compete in UFC and most of He's wins are just trash fighters and 7 f**king loses HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH CLOWN
Smartest Statement DC Has Ever Made... FACTS!!!
Francis looked comfortable but Jon looked nervous
He didn't look nervous lol
😂😂😂😂😂youre also retxrded
lil bro tf u talk about
Lol… yeah yeah yeah🤣🤣Nervous? Lol
Jon was literally threatening him in his face but he looked nervous to you?...
I respect Ryan for admitting he has never had those thoughts
What Achilles mother told him is what my inner mind always told me…. What a great movie .
I always hoped they do a prequel before Pitt got too old, but it's too late now
@@coffeetalk924 great idea. Too bad .. smh
tf you guys talking about what achhilles? a new show coming about troy? why you guys commenting this under this video??? im confused brooo
@@selimatasever4112 then you didn't watch the video lol
It would only be good if it was other tales like the illiad or clash of the Titans type movie, Troy was a real even, but mythic at the same time like in the Odyssey
Dc picking Rc makes this show great ! Louisiana pride
If Francis trained nothing but wrestling, Jon could never beat Francis but after seeing his tdd against Stipe it might already be good enough
There are levels. Jones would still win only on his feet
@@investornabil8825😄 Jones nor anyone else can take a punch from Francis. I don't care how technical he is. It only takes one shot from him. Jones has never fought anyone with that much KO power
😂😂😂😂
Great topics discussed.
Fight started on the feet, JJ getting KO
I would love to see Dana White and the CEO of the PFL lose their egos so we can see this fight happen. This fight is big enough to be advertised across both fight promotions.
That dude on the right is disingenuous asf
It’s Because he’s acting white
Troy is an amazing movie! Definitely I see traces of greatest warrior mindset in Jon Jones, hope this fight happens
Jon hiding for 3 years to essentially gain 15-20 lbs tells me a completely different story. Well known he would walk around at 240 when he was in LHW. Weighs in at 248 for Ciryl Gane, probably 260 on fight night. Anyone who's ever tried to get bigger in a gym knows it wouldn't take them 3 years to gain 15-20 lbs and on top of that show up on fight night pudgy. Which tells you a lot of that gain wasn't lean muscle mass. Tells me that the man was terrified of Francis and wanted any reason to not fight him but didn't want the public to know.
Thank you. I'm glad someone else finally keyed in on that: the ONLY reason Jon needed to put on all that weight, was for a potential fight against Ngannou. LHW Jon could annihilate 99.8% of the current ufc HW roster, excluding Sergei. Aside from that, it's Francis.
He was not afraid, he was getting pico out of his system.
Jon is not afraid of Francis in any shape or form
🤡
I think people just parrot what Dana says. He needed 3 years because he thought he was too small.
Jones could not get passed some one challenging him with out feeling disrespected. He lightened up after Francis said play the game Jon dont let the game play you. Its all business.
Jones waited until Ngannou left
The only possible fair hybrid fight would be in the octagon, boxing only, but with MMA gloves.
Wonder why this show doesn't have more views? It's too black
I like it black +1
@@FerrisBueller-lj9zj one of the few thousand
But u're here...and commenting 😢
Black and white ignorance will never stop, it's always about who's selling if he/she ain't white I ain't buying Soo ridiculous but we're all humans at the end of the day
It's pure criminality that this fight isn't being made
JJ: "I'm the king"
FN: "In your division. In HW, I'm the baddest man on the planet."
One of them has been caught with drugs. The other is pure, doesn't need to eat to maintain his weight.
Talk all you want. Makes no difference.
Yeah okay casual.
@@HatchetHarry12u must be one of them African Americans that act like an idiot always with the foolish attitude
i fcking love dc, such a comedian! keep it up bigboy
I forgot the MMA world even exist cause of spence vs crawford. I can honestly say after a lifelong journey as an MMA fan I’m not excited for anything but a boxing match….. it’s so crazy years ago I would’ve been estatic over this match up … spence and crawford dwarf everything it’s literally the best fight that can be made in all of combat sports. Sad, but harsh reality for me.
Daniel Cormier STOP it. Francis will smoke Jones.
Francis will Jervinho Jones 1minutes
The GOAT Jon Jones is not intimidated at all by Nganou. He has always been the best, the king. Nganou is much more intimidated, but not scared either. Really hope they make this fight happen. JJ is going to beat Nganou, unless Nganou lands a lucky punch. And with Nganou's power, even a jab is enough so he is definetely dangerous.
The answer to the hybrid fight is to let them fight a kickboxing match. That's literally meeting halfway for both...
Jon Jones so much more well rounded martial artist but in that moment if Francis it's John Jones he knocking him out cold there's not many human beings ever to walk this Earth with power like his
“You don’t wear it” 🤣 that expression says it all
That scene in "Troy" was sooo TOUGH!! That movie is still great.
I don’t feel like Jones would win, but to the reach point. Jones has 1/2” less of reach. He’s 6’5 fury is 6’8 they’re both huge. Size wouldn’t be a big disadvantage. The cardio and experience is the disadvantage.
Happy to hear DC give props to Jones
The man is wearing camerounian clothes im nigerian bro da man is from cameroun respect that
Tyson and Jon jones in kickboxing then , that’s the only way I can see this fight legit happening
Demetrious Johnson just had a hybrid fight before his last fight for the title . I’m pretty sure we can make this work if he can make it work and get the job done.
Bro if there is any kicking Involved, Tyson is not getting out alive. RC is the perfect guy to cover this sport because he is an actual fan of mma and follows the sports.
“I’ve always been king” Matt hamil enters chat
Listen, I don't think either man is afraid of the other. But for Jon, it is really easy to have confidence with someone you know you can't fight. Let's be serious!!!
Daniel YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO BOX JOHN LMAO 😂😂😂
U all forget what Frances Ngannou said. Jones said he is the King, France replied in your division. Jones I had to take time off to get to heavyweight. Jones said u gonna wrestle, France , I have be waiting to three years meaning u think I can wrestle? Frances win the the conversation and he gave him a piece of advice "play the game don't let the game plays u" then he was more composed.
The only thing with Fury vs. Jones (or Francis for that matter) would be boxing with 4OZ MMA gloves. Take away the silly boxing guard while still giving Tyson a chance to survive
Noticed how ESPN MMA hasn't promoted Francis vs Fury fight...
RC really thought Daniel was joking in the last part.
Jon doesn't fear anyone, the man's a fully fledged sociopath 😂😂😂