My solution to this problem was to bypass the switch altogether and replace it with an inline "Square D" well pump switch. It's working great now with no issues.
Hi Jonathan.I am also having same proplem on my boat.can you please give us some more detail about your solution.(Which pump switch,how did you do.how did you bypass)
I took my switch apart and applied wd40 , put it back together and it's working for now. would like to know how to change to another switch.. Great info. Thanks
Thank you so very, very much! They did the opposite with me - installed a “dc” switch on my “ac” series 33 seaflo pump. You totally enabled me to diagnose this issue easily. I have sent the company a picture and am waiting to hear back.
Yes that happened to me with a pump only two months old. I changed the micro switch and it's running fine, but I wasn't aware of the ac/dc issue. Thank you.
Thank you so much, I too have been fighting with the same pump and problem. I traced it to the switch but never took it completely apart the way you did , it all makes sense now. Awesome info, Thanks again
Thanks Johnathan that's a great help .I no option other than to buy another switch that will fail in the future from seaflo ,will end up buying another pump non seaflo in the future
I've had the same problem with the switch. I don't know what difference there might be between in a A/C and D/C switch, but being the old guy that I am, what you described reminds me of the distributor in older cars that use (12v D/C) points. A condenser or capacitor is used with points and stores the current temporarily to prevent the points from arcing. Normal pump operation wouldn't come near the repeated cycles as an auto distributor, but I've had my (rainwater tank) pump rapidly kicking on and off because of a leaking float valve in a rainwater tank, cycling it far more than normal operation. Food for thought.
I have the A/C version, I can't get a response from SeaFlo about whether the AC and DC version of the pump uses the same pressure switch part. You just answered my question :). I've had two pumps fail over the last several years. I've looked at alternative brands but Seaflo seems to be the best despite the short life. I do use my pump every day to supply my household water (don't have a municipal water connection where I live).
Yup, I've two Seaflows and both failed. You really have to question the integrity of this company as it continues to install AC switches in DC models, while ignoring the failures. TBH, I'm just going to bring my pump closer to it's point of use and add a manual switch for now. I tell everyone who asks, to never get Seaflows. They're losing customers, but that's their karma.
A lot of these type of micro switches are actually rated for DC as well if you look in their datasheets. DC at lower currents and voltages than AC though usually. Look up your switch and see what it's rated for DC. May still be too low current for this application, or may be a bad batch of microswitches? Would be interested to know if the AC versions of this pump have the same issue?
Same problem here. They sent me a new pump and i got the same problem again. But many customers seem to be happy on amazon. Could it be that only some pumps have the wrong switch?
No. I think the customers that are happy are either fake or they don't use it very often. It's impossible to get a DC switch that will handle that current to fit that small of a package.
I've had a look for 10 or 16a dc micro switches and it doesn't look like they exist. I'm guessing the housing is not big enough to accommodate a large enough contact surface or spark arrest chamber. Or there is so little demand that it's not worth mass production. Post a link if anyone finds a suitable dc replacement.
I'm sorry... I didn't catch what the symptoms are for your failing switch. My pump behaves as if there is a leak or torn diaphragm, second pump in a year doing the same thing... first one acted up after 9 months, second one after only 3 months. I don't want to rip the pump apart without a solid idea.
I’ve got the same problem. Did you manage to find a suitable replacement for the microswitch? I’ve found plenty of similar looking ones but not sure what I need in order to prevent it happening again.
Hey! Thank you for the video!! Do you know will that works if I replace this micro switch to this one from Amazon? Funmit WB24X829 Microwave Door Switch for GE Kenmore SZM-V16-FD-63
I have the A/C version, I can't get a response from SeaFlo about whether the AC and DC version of the pump uses the same pressure switch part. You just answered my question :). I've had two pumps fail over the last several years. I've looked at alternative brands but Seaflo seems to be the best despite the short life. I do use my pump every day to supply my household water (don't have a municipal water connection where I live).
My solution to this problem was to bypass the switch altogether and replace it with an inline "Square D" well pump switch. It's working great now with no issues.
Hi Jonathan.I am also having same proplem on my boat.can you please give us some more detail about your solution.(Which pump switch,how did you do.how did you bypass)
@@ibrahimkilic5476 hopefully you found the follow up video?
Did you do a video on the solution?
I took my switch apart and applied wd40 , put it back together and it's working for now. would like to know how to change to another switch.. Great info. Thanks
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Thank you so very, very much! They did the opposite with me - installed a “dc” switch on my “ac” series 33 seaflo pump. You totally enabled me to diagnose this issue easily. I have sent the company a picture and am waiting to hear back.
This was a really frustrating issue for me. I'm glad I could help.
Yes that happened to me with a pump only two months old. I changed the micro switch and it's running fine, but I wasn't aware of the ac/dc issue. Thank you.
Thank you so much, I too have been fighting with the same pump and problem.
I traced it to the switch but never took it completely apart the way you did , it all makes sense now.
Awesome info, Thanks again
Thanks Johnathan that's a great help .I no option other than to buy another switch that will fail in the future from seaflo ,will end up buying another pump non seaflo in the future
I've had the same problem with the switch. I don't know what difference there might be between in a A/C and D/C switch, but being the old guy that I am, what you described reminds me of the distributor in older cars that use (12v D/C) points. A condenser or capacitor is used with points and stores the current temporarily to prevent the points from arcing.
Normal pump operation wouldn't come near the repeated cycles as an auto distributor, but I've had my (rainwater tank) pump rapidly kicking on and off because of a leaking float valve in a rainwater tank, cycling it far more than normal operation.
Food for thought.
I have the A/C version, I can't get a response from SeaFlo about whether the AC and DC version of the pump uses the same pressure switch part. You just answered my question :). I've had two pumps fail over the last several years. I've looked at alternative brands but Seaflo seems to be the best despite the short life. I do use my pump every day to supply my household water (don't have a municipal water connection where I live).
Same here, tried 4 different emails to sea flow & no response.
They're crappy pumps. There are better ones out there. But this one got me started, so I'm thankful.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! I've been dealing with a similar problem, same pump. At least now I know what to check.
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Jonathan, thanks for this video. Exactly what I needed to diagnose and get going again. And an added bonus: I learned a useful new word, “janky”. Ha!
OMG! Thank you! I am having this same exact issue! 💯
There's a follow up video showing how I fixed it. Link is in the comments. Thanks for watching!
Yup, I've two Seaflows and both failed. You really have to question the integrity of this company as it continues to install AC switches in DC models, while ignoring the failures. TBH, I'm just going to bring my pump closer to it's point of use and add a manual switch for now. I tell everyone who asks, to never get Seaflows. They're losing customers, but that's their karma.
I have the problem in my off grid system, Finland summer cottage. Very frustrating.
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mine just started leaking around the seal for the switch. these are straight up garbage.
A lot of these type of micro switches are actually rated for DC as well if you look in their datasheets. DC at lower currents and voltages than AC though usually. Look up your switch and see what it's rated for DC. May still be too low current for this application, or may be a bad batch of microswitches? Would be interested to know if the AC versions of this pump have the same issue?
Honestly I've moved on to a more reliable setup. I'll be posting an updated version of things soon.
Wow thanks so much for the information I am currently having same problem but how did you fix it?
I just went with a completely different setup. I'll have a video about it soon.
Would a snubber circuit along side the switch help?
I have no idea. Give it a shot!
Thank you, I keep getting the same problem.
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Same here but can't find anywhere to buy the switch.
Whatever dc or account, the switch has to do with current I think
Same problem here. They sent me a new pump and i got the same problem again. But many customers seem to be happy on amazon. Could it be that only some pumps have the wrong switch?
No. I think the customers that are happy are either fake or they don't use it very often. It's impossible to get a DC switch that will handle that current to fit that small of a package.
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I use the pump switch to turn a relay on to carry the heavy current to the motor
That's a great idea
Is there a DC switch for this application?
I couldn't find one that small.
I've had a look for 10 or 16a dc micro switches and it doesn't look like they exist. I'm guessing the housing is not big enough to accommodate a large enough contact surface or spark arrest chamber. Or there is so little demand that it's not worth mass production. Post a link if anyone finds a suitable dc replacement.
I went through the same thing
Hi Jonathan. Similar problem ( I think) Thank you for this...... = where did you get your replacement switch from.... I can't seem to find one?
Standard Square D well pump switch from hardware store
I'm sorry... I didn't catch what the symptoms are for your failing switch. My pump behaves as if there is a leak or torn diaphragm, second pump in a year doing the same thing... first one acted up after 9 months, second one after only 3 months. I don't want to rip the pump apart without a solid idea.
It just quits working altogether. It will either stay on because the contacts get "welded" together, or it won't turn on because the springs melt.
I’ve got the same problem. Did you manage to find a suitable replacement for the microswitch? I’ve found plenty of similar looking ones but not sure what I need in order to prevent it happening again.
I ended up bypassing the switch completely by using a "square d" well pump switch. Haven't had any issues at all with this method.
Jonathan Taylor great, thanks for the tip!
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Hey! Thank you for the video!! Do you know will that works if I replace this micro switch to this one from Amazon? Funmit WB24X829 Microwave Door Switch for GE Kenmore SZM-V16-FD-63
Thanks for watching the video!
I have no idea.
That switch is only rated at 75 watts so that's just 5 to 6 amps at 12-14 volts, my pump says it can draw 8 amps.
How do I fix that?
Look at the link I provided in other comments
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All fine but can't find anyone that can sell me a switch.
Ace hardware sells them.
I have
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Link to my solution.
I have the A/C version, I can't get a response from SeaFlo about whether the AC and DC version of the pump uses the same pressure switch part. You just answered my question :). I've had two pumps fail over the last several years. I've looked at alternative brands but Seaflo seems to be the best despite the short life. I do use my pump every day to supply my household water (don't have a municipal water connection where I live).