@Zamari no Channel did her voice change? Vocaloids just become more fluent, the point is for them to sound natural not so robotic, and if you wantwd robotic, you can adjust some settings ans prest-o xD
SolarAutumn depends on the recordings and oto, they may seem good but sometimes everything sounds so stretched and just lost quality since utau is a really old discontinued synthesizer
the robotic-esque flair of V2, and the realism of V4. she sings like a CeViO vb as well as how Luka V4 sings. and having tuned both V4 and V2, NT sounds closer to V2 (pronunciation-wise. the “la la la” parts legit sounds like V2). i love that. i may be bummed, but i know this is just a prototype. her final vb is still on the horizon and if she actually blows us out of the water, i have hopes for the rest of the Cryptonloids.
Sorry to break it to you, but "la la la" part is the original... heh. I couldn't find any off vocal without that part. Maybe I should write that in the description.
At the moment yes. I believe that they'll get around to adding that functionality eventually. It just seems to me like an engine thing that can be fixed...
Yeah I hope they allow her to have a stronger, chest-voice sound and also bring back the easy vibrato controls. A few people have mentioned she can sometimes clip-off consonants if many syllables are close together and in rapid succession.
Finally a person who managed to let miku NT sound like miku should sound. I nearly lost all hope in NT tbh :D Good job here. I hope they improve this new program even more! Lets wait what the full version brings to us :)
@@ekctay yeah I guess. But it's like everything- if you don't put in an decent amount of work and pleasure it will not be great. You did a great job. Do you plan to do other songs too?
Yeah, I don't know how it will go but I'm trying another one right now. Now that I kinda know how she works, I'll be focusing more on making her sound natural, but as always mixing will be the biggest problem..
@@ekctay You will do it great again. I am sure. May I ask you about the program itself? Is it available in English? Where did you get it from? :) I want to produce some songs in the future too so I am very curious.
You can buy it from Sonicwire's official website and it is available in English. However I don't know if you can still get the prototype version, since I pre-ordered it before release. Also if you own Miku V4x you can get some discount too.
Eh.. I think it's just my skill that lacks to make her sound real. I bet professional producers can make her sound real with prototype. Heck one of the most realistic sounding song "Freely Tomorrow" by Mitchie M was made with V2.
she sounds legit like Satou Sasara from CeVIO. it's the vacuum-y pull on her voice. I've never used Piapro Studio before, but I am willing to learn for Miku NT's sake
The voice becomes more cutesy, which is a big plus but it introduces choppy nasally tone. Hope the end result will be amazing. I'm amazed by your tuning, I'll probably buy NT when its out.
Um in your opinion, does she sounds more like her V2? Why does every cover make me feel like her tone is not that close to V2 but more to of a new tone. Prolly bcs of the engine noise
From what I've felt, her voice didn't change "significantly". What you've said is pretty much what I was thinking; her voice sounds a lot similar to V2 and V4, but not as clear as V4. The big changes are mostly with natural pitch editing, new parameters like "Voice voltage" (voice strength) and "Voice Drive" (different varieties and levels of growl). Sonicwire did say there will be an update where the voice would sound more natural and will give the ability to input vibrato, etc. The engine (Piapro Studio NT) is still incomplete and we're locked away from using things like Track layering, so I think as we get updates and people get used to tuning her, we will start to find NT's true potential. + You're really encouraged to start the tuning process from scratch. If you import vsqx file from VE, she really doesn't sound good.
It's hard to explain it in words, but it's nothing important that would directly affect how the voice sounds. If you have multiple tracks of voice (e.g. main, low harmony, high harmony), you'll be able to see the position of notes from other tracks (e.g. main) in the background even when editing another tracks (e.g. high harmony). Basically it makes positioning notes much easier and Vocaloid Editor had this built-in.
I don't think the problem is the voice, because the truth is that it sounds very natural, with better pronunciation and with a much lighter color. What I think happens is that the VSQx that is being used is no longer appropriate for this voice that has gained much more dynamism than any version of Miku, including the V4x. Keep in mind that this is developed in Piapro, so the way to build your voice will be different, in addition to now offering many different tools.
This is by far the most smoothest and most natural I've heard of this song, bar none. I've listened to Melt for so long that listening to this was just a breath of fresh air. Sure there was that part that she struggled to reach those notes but other than that, it is an awesome listening experience. I actually shed a tear.
imo, it's just a beta, so we should wait more to actually see how she'll sound. but if i have to be honest, i kinda like NT prototype, it sounds like a mix of V2 and V4
I absolutely love how much she sounds like V2 miku, I can't wait to see what her final vb sounds like in the completed program!! Keep up the good work!
This is really amazing work! I've been really concerned about Miku NT because PS demo/prototype seems to lacking a few parameters that Vocaloid had, that many users were used to using to get a realistic tuning out of Miku's voicebank. I appreciate that many fans love V2's robotic/anime sound but I personally prefer Mitchie M's human-like tunings and V4's more mature timbre better and I feel like you got something like that out of Miku NT here, so again: amazing work and well done!
This actually sounds nice. The other uploaders I watched using the NT voicebank maybe just don't know how to properly tune her voice, insert the highs,downs and vibrato and the end product made her sound forced. No offense if they saw this. Great job on this cover she feels like V2 and real human on here. :)
the only good thing about this would be that they would bring out a new meiko update because poor little hajaj they don't give it any importance in 15 years of their voicebank
so vocaloid 5 was bad but it wasn't that bad and piapro studio has been the same with another design because in both it has the same functions and miku nt doesn't sound very good it's like going back to old versions of miku
Me: This is nice! :D My brother for some reason listening in: >:O EWWWWWWWWW U GOT LIKE THE WORST TASTE IN THE WORLD OMG MY EARS **fakes seizure** Me: r u high?
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Crypton really did hear their fans. They made her sound like V2 again
@Zamari no Channel to me sounds like a robot....OH WAIT! I MENT LIKE A UTAU AND VOCALOID MIX!!!...😅
@Zamari no Channel did her voice change? Vocaloids just become more fluent, the point is for them to sound natural not so robotic, and if you wantwd robotic, you can adjust some settings ans prest-o xD
@@LOVELIFETM but theres some Utaus that sound better than some vocaloids ._.
SolarAutumn depends on the recordings and oto, they may seem good but sometimes everything sounds so stretched and just lost quality since utau is a really old discontinued synthesizer
@@SolarAutumn Such As Renri
the robotic-esque flair of V2, and the realism of V4. she sings like a CeViO vb as well as how Luka V4 sings. and having tuned both V4 and V2, NT sounds closer to V2 (pronunciation-wise. the “la la la” parts legit sounds like V2). i love that.
i may be bummed, but i know this is just a prototype. her final vb is still on the horizon and if she actually blows us out of the water, i have hopes for the rest of the Cryptonloids.
Sorry to break it to you, but "la la la" part is the original... heh. I couldn't find any off vocal without that part.
Maybe I should write that in the description.
So far I still prefer V4 Miku but I'm excited for the final product. It's just incredibly nasally at the moment.
At the moment yes. I believe that they'll get around to adding that functionality eventually. It just seems to me like an engine thing that can be fixed...
Yeah I hope they allow her to have a stronger, chest-voice sound and also bring back the easy vibrato controls. A few people have mentioned she can sometimes clip-off consonants if many syllables are close together and in rapid succession.
Finally a person who managed to let miku NT sound like miku should sound. I nearly lost all hope in NT tbh :D Good job here. I hope they improve this new program even more! Lets wait what the full version brings to us :)
Oh wow, thanks. It's probably because some people are just importing vsqx from vocaloid 4, which makes her sound too robotic.
@@ekctay yeah I guess. But it's like everything- if you don't put in an decent amount of work and pleasure it will not be great. You did a great job. Do you plan to do other songs too?
Yeah, I don't know how it will go but I'm trying another one right now. Now that I kinda know how she works, I'll be focusing more on making her sound natural, but as always mixing will be the biggest problem..
@@ekctay You will do it great again. I am sure. May I ask you about the program itself? Is it available in English? Where did you get it from? :) I want to produce some songs in the future too so I am very curious.
You can buy it from Sonicwire's official website and it is available in English. However I don't know if you can still get the prototype version, since I pre-ordered it before release. Also if you own Miku V4x you can get some discount too.
Miku grew her hair back!
What a queen lol
I bet the final product will sound real af
Eh.. I think it's just my skill that lacks to make her sound real. I bet professional producers can make her sound real with prototype. Heck one of the most realistic sounding song "Freely Tomorrow" by Mitchie M was made with V2.
@@ekctay actually your tuning is one of the best i've seen with NT till now, i think it's the voicebank that needs to be more refined
oh my god juuichi pfp
we have the same profile pic lmao
@@graysil_ lmao nice
she sounds legit like Satou Sasara from CeVIO. it's the vacuum-y pull on her voice. I've never used Piapro Studio before, but I am willing to learn for Miku NT's sake
The voice becomes more cutesy, which is a big plus but it introduces choppy nasally tone.
Hope the end result will be amazing.
I'm amazed by your tuning, I'll probably buy NT when its out.
Um in your opinion, does she sounds more like her V2? Why does every cover make me feel like her tone is not that close to V2 but more to of a new tone. Prolly bcs of the engine noise
From what I've felt, her voice didn't change "significantly". What you've said is pretty much what I was thinking; her voice sounds a lot similar to V2 and V4, but not as clear as V4. The big changes are mostly with natural pitch editing, new parameters like "Voice voltage" (voice strength) and "Voice Drive" (different varieties and levels of growl). Sonicwire did say there will be an update where the voice would sound more natural and will give the ability to input vibrato, etc. The engine (Piapro Studio NT) is still incomplete and we're locked away from using things like Track layering, so I think as we get updates and people get used to tuning her, we will start to find NT's true potential.
+ You're really encouraged to start the tuning process from scratch. If you import vsqx file from VE, she really doesn't sound good.
@@ekctay Wait, what's track layering????
It's hard to explain it in words, but it's nothing important that would directly affect how the voice sounds. If you have multiple tracks of voice (e.g. main, low harmony, high harmony), you'll be able to see the position of notes from other tracks (e.g. main) in the background even when editing another tracks (e.g. high harmony). Basically it makes positioning notes much easier and Vocaloid Editor had this built-in.
@@ekctay Oh, i didn't know that was the name of that lmao. I already knew it lol
i think it’s because crypton reused the v2 recordings for it
Unpopular opinion: this sounds considerably better than the original
this made me cry i dont know why
Ah, back to the old V2 days, when only a godly tune can make them sound good 😂
God, she sounds so human and adorable. For a split second she really felt real.
I don't think the problem is the voice, because the truth is that it sounds very natural, with better pronunciation and with a much lighter color. What I think happens is that the VSQx that is being used is no longer appropriate for this voice that has gained much more dynamism than any version of Miku, including the V4x. Keep in mind that this is developed in Piapro, so the way to build your voice will be different, in addition to now offering many different tools.
This is by far the most smoothest and most natural I've heard of this song, bar none. I've listened to Melt for so long that listening to this was just a breath of fresh air. Sure there was that part that she struggled to reach those notes but other than that, it is an awesome listening experience. I actually shed a tear.
imo, it's just a beta, so we should wait more to actually see how she'll sound. but if i have to be honest, i kinda like NT prototype, it sounds like a mix of V2 and V4
I absolutely love how much she sounds like V2 miku, I can't wait to see what her final vb sounds like in the completed program!! Keep up the good work!
This is really amazing work! I've been really concerned about Miku NT because PS demo/prototype seems to lacking a few parameters that Vocaloid had, that many users were used to using to get a realistic tuning out of Miku's voicebank. I appreciate that many fans love V2's robotic/anime sound but I personally prefer Mitchie M's human-like tunings and V4's more mature timbre better and I feel like you got something like that out of Miku NT here, so again: amazing work and well done!
this is def the best ive heard her so far
We better wait for the final version since the beta does not convince us at all
I love it
Nostalgia and Amazement hit me at the same time.
I am just finding out about this and it almost brings nostalgic tears to my eyes
Oh oh oh!!!!! Finally a good one Miku NT work
Oooh this is good!!!!
Edit: here from Kyaami's tweet :)
Our diva is still alive also her voice sounds amazing like to me it sounds like v2 with v5 plus v4x. *fan squeals hard*
This actually sounds nice. The other uploaders I watched using the NT voicebank maybe just don't know how to properly tune her voice, insert the highs,downs and vibrato and the end product made her sound forced. No offense if they saw this. Great job on this cover she feels like V2 and real human on here. :)
This sounds so good! Not choppy like what I usually hear!
v4も好き
UTAUみてえだ
🤩
本家より調教下手だからか劣化したように聴こえる
I personally really like this. But then again my ears kinda suck soooo
She sounds like she's singing with two fingers on her nose
I didn't say it was bad
Should have her hairties stay squares or is circle cute too?
Why is miku singing with her nose plugged
the only good thing about this would be that they would bring out a new meiko update because poor little hajaj they don't give it any importance in 15 years of their voicebank
To anyone who sees this, I hope you have an amazing day! :3
カバーやるならボカロ2（12年前）の本家くらいは超えてくれよ
She sounds like she’s straining to get sound out :(
昔の曲で比較してくれるとわかりやすいね
Hey @EKCT AY is it fine if I use this video for my channel?
so vocaloid 5 was bad but it wasn't that bad and piapro studio has been the same with another design because in both it has the same functions and miku nt doesn't sound very good it's like going back to old versions of miku
Wait you’re telling me this isn’t V2?
Me: This is nice! :D
My brother for some reason listening in: >:O EWWWWWWWWW U GOT LIKE THE WORST TASTE IN THE WORLD OMG MY EARS
**fakes seizure**
Me: r u high?
It sounds a bit like CeVIO...
At least for me
これって良くなってるの？
It sounds just like V1 :(
you mean v2?????????? mikuu isn't on v1
Miku is naked............
v2持ってきてNTです～ではないよね。懐かしい声ではあるけど、このままだとまずいかも
otomachi una did better
To be honest this sounds better than most v5 banks.