@@alivia4907 Everyone has to worry about limited ammo. I have heard rumors that we are about to get another ammo shortage. I don't even get my ammo from my own state anymore. I order everything from Buds gun shop now.
My 20 inch 6.5 Grendel AR is sub moa with Hornady Black eld-m. Fort Scott TUI, not so great. I’m impressed how it did in your rig, of course being WTW behind the trigger is key to its success. Good review.
PSA now sells their house brand (AAC) 6.5 Grendel 123gr at .70 - .75 per round depending on bullet type (OTM, black tip, and FMJ). They look like Hornady projectiles to me. Oh, and they use BRASS cases, NOT steel, so you can still get your money's worth with reloads. Just trying to help out my fellow Grendel guys.
My 13.9 ADM seems to like the fort scott 62 grain. I tried out alot of different type of defense rounds and that seemed to be the best grouping of them. Absolutely hates hornady match
2:20 I believe that goofy threading does two things: 1. It prevents the careless or less perceptive firearm assembler from slapping on a .30 muzzle device and having a very bad first shot; and 2. it encourages sales of Faxon's 3-port muzzle brake, or Q's (8.6 BO developer who has partnered with Faxon on this project) Cherry Bomb muzzle device. So, safety and profit, I guess.
Hey WTW!! I checked out the 8.6 BO about a year ago, and adding the beans for the rifle, then another sack of beans for the ammo. I truly felt there were other options...
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Thanks for the awesome content. This is a firearm and caliber combo that I'm thinking of being my next purchase. I'm leaning towards an AR pistol configuration and form 1 to an SBR. Can't wait to see it surpressed.
Just finished building my AR 8.6 Blk. 12 inch faxon, Had to get an SLR adjustable gas block to fit suppressor. First 8 rounds out of it are great. suppressor makes it wonderful, a little heavy but a short package. Running a SiCo 36M with ASR mount. I was looking at buying dedicated can 338 specific but will hold off and wait to see if they have a BOGO sale. Scope or Red dot with magnifier is my next problem.
The 8.6 BO caught my eye when it first appeared, I was interested in a big bore to run dedicated subsonic suppressed for hunting applications as I have 40 acres of property that is dense and next to a neighborhood. We as hunters get enough bad publicity so the noise levels will be down to not disturb anyone and hearing safe as a bonus. Currently running a 350L and 450BM and may add a 8.6BO to the collection as time goes on. Main benefits of the 350 and 450 is the availability of ammo that you can find at any shop.
I have a similar situation . I use a suppressed 45/70 and Hornady 410 gr sub x rounds .Push em right over 1000fps. Stand I use with that setup has about 70 yard max for a clear shot. Haven’t taken a white tail with it at much more than 40 or 50 yards , but it works just fine. Not ideal expansion ,but all 3 didn’t go more than a few yards. I’d say 50-60% of expansion potential on the 2 bullets I found .
@@kevmoful Using the SubX 395gr rounds myself on the 450BM, On the 350L I am using a different brand totally blanking out on them at the moment. Just like you my shots are so limited and doubt I could find a place on the 40 acres with a 100 yards clear shot. Love to bow hunt there, feel guilty during muzzle loading season when that cannon fires off. Just trying to really keep the noise down to avoid complaints and risk losing the opportunity to hunt there.
I shoot a lot of Fort Scott Munitions ammo, from .380 up to .338 Lapua, and have had very good groupings and wound channels with everything I shoot. I was glad to see you send some of their 8.6Blkout down range. I would like to see this combination on a hunt. If they come out with a super sonic load, do you think you will do some testing with it as well?
Willing to bet the thread pitch is to prevent some dummy threading/attaching an undersized can, i.e. 30 cal, and hurting themselves/bystanders. We've seen so many .300 blk/ .223 mix-ups, only a matter of time before it would happen.
You should do a video that explains the flight path of the 8.6. Then set up targets and hit different yardages like a sniper. 25 yard increments or something. Not sure what that rifle/round are capable of doing so you could do larger increments. 9 hole reviews does something similar but they haven't done 8.6 I don't believe. Nice looking setup for sure.
I'm definitely going to buy this any bolt action when it comes out a 16-in or possible SBrd 10-in bolt action with a can this would be the ultimate backwards white tail cartridge
I’ve got a Q fix 8 inch barrel pistol with a brace on it. It shoots about 1 inch groups at 100 yards. I need to get a better rest and see what it will really do.
Hey Whotee, is that a brand new gun (barrel)? Curious if you break in your barrels or just break em in by using em? I know its done on the regular in the precision world and mileage may vary... Also...at 3-4 ducks per booolet...thats an expensive proposition as a lot of companies seem to like 50 rounds for break-in. Ouch
Hey wtw, dont know if your gunna keep this one but for a scope base with adjustable moa cant, monstrum makes some scope mounts for 25 bones. Called balrog
Make a video with audio at target. I want to hear what it sounds like suppressed from the animals perception. I would like to hear both 8.6 and 300 blackout. Thanks.
I can see this round being a good brush round. Hogs, short range deer etc. But there are cheaper rounds that can do the job. But if you have bears in your area this might be the ticket.
That’s a professional assassins rifle. Maybe Sylvester Stallone, Antonio Banderas, Bridget Fonda, Sean Connery or Tommy Lee Jones would have chosen it to take out their mark.
I don't see the use of this other than for room to room clearing, because it is a terrible round for hunting. You can't get the bullet to expand reliably. It may work with 180-225 grain slugs on hogs and bear under 50 yards.
The goofy threading alone just turned me off from that rifle, there's plenty of standard thread pitches for .338 so if somebody in engineering or logistics doesn't know what they're doing, who else is goofing up??
That's a valid concern, no doubt. My thinking, though, is that Faxon (being one of only a few players in the 8.6BO game at the moment) is flooding the market with their barrels now while the 8.6BO hype is at its peak. So later, they can come out with their own line of thread adapters that go from goofy to standard. When that day comes, the price will be bonkers. I could totally be wrong, but that's just the only reason I could think of to go goofy on a totally new line of barrels.
I built one of these about 6 months ago and what I found is the the 18x1.5 was a pretty standard threading for .338. But most muzzle devices up to that point were designed for 338 Lapua and not really what I wanted for that build. But now there are a few manufacturers making them specifically for 8.6. It was actually the last piece of the build.
Not sure I care for this rifle caliber at all. Would be a great hogging gun but not sure I'd use it. Also being an AR platform .... no chance of owning one in Canada .
@@WHOTEEWHO lol. I had not heard of this cartridge. So I watched your video, then did some quick research. I hope you do more videos about it. Would love to see some penetration tests. 😉 👍👍
Caldwell Lead Sled DFT 2 here: amzn.to/3U6LLw8
8.6 is the future of subs. First actual innovation in a long time
.375 Raptor came out first and does everything, absolutely everything, even reloading cost, better. Objectively.
I am glad you're shooting this round I am in deep thought about the 350 legend, the 450 bushmasters and the blackout.
Don't forget about the new 400 legend that just came out. I built a 350 legend ar 15 last year btw.
@@alivia4907 Thanks I didn't know about that. Now you really got me spending money lol. A 400 legend I will definitely look into that.
@@thalleshoward3962 I've been debating the upper for my ar 15. Only thing is limited ammo at the moment
@@alivia4907 Everyone has to worry about limited ammo. I have heard rumors that we are about to get another ammo shortage. I don't even get my ammo from my own state anymore. I order everything from Buds gun shop now.
Get all three, it helps with the anxiety.
Looks like the whole time you didn’t enjoy yourself which put my off a little I like how excited you get with the ruger American rifles
😆😆😆 I enjoyed it. Just very cold outside
My 20 inch 6.5 Grendel AR is sub moa with Hornady Black eld-m. Fort Scott TUI, not so great. I’m impressed how it did in your rig, of course being WTW behind the trigger is key to its success. Good review.
PSA now sells their house brand (AAC) 6.5 Grendel 123gr at .70 - .75 per round depending on bullet type (OTM, black tip, and FMJ). They look like Hornady projectiles to me. Oh, and they use BRASS cases, NOT steel, so you can still get your money's worth with reloads.
Just trying to help out my fellow Grendel guys.
My 13.9 ADM seems to like the fort scott 62 grain. I tried out alot of different type of defense rounds and that seemed to be the best grouping of them. Absolutely hates hornady match
8.6 Blackout (AR-10/LR-308) & 8.6 Razorback (AR-15) actually have me considering adopting a couple of "boutique" cartridges.
I have boxes of 10mm. The Razorback does look interesting.👍
2:20 I believe that goofy threading does two things: 1. It prevents the careless or less perceptive firearm assembler from slapping on a .30 muzzle device and having a very bad first shot; and 2. it encourages sales of Faxon's 3-port muzzle brake, or Q's (8.6 BO developer who has partnered with Faxon on this project) Cherry Bomb muzzle device. So, safety and profit, I guess.
Yup
You are right about lousy grouping. Any one group is ok BUT all it takes is to move to a different point of aim to throw it off.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Hey WTW!! I checked out the 8.6 BO about a year ago, and adding the beans for the rifle, then another sack of beans for the ammo. I truly felt there were other options...
Or at least there would be by now. 😢
All depends what purpose you'd be buying it for
Don't really care about 86 black out... But since the ammo is so expensive I figured the view would help ya out 😅
😆😆😆 thanks for watching!
Love that 8.6!! Let’s go!!
Been a bit my friend... glad to be back amongst the living!
Enjoyed the info... can't ever get enough! Have a good one !
Respectfully, Seth
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Thanks for watching! New videos every day
Thanks for the awesome content. This is a firearm and caliber combo that I'm thinking of being my next purchase. I'm leaning towards an AR pistol configuration and form 1 to an SBR.
Can't wait to see it surpressed.
Man I've been waiting 6mo for you to review this! Thanks WTW
I love mine! 285 gr subsonic, 5 round group, 100 yards, 1 hole group!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 NO LIE ! ON MY LIFE !❤ P.S. RIFLE IS A 8.6 FIX BY " Q " Bolt rifle.
Pretty cool looking rifle, interesting cartridge/caliber and great shooting as always. Thanks for sharing!
Just finished building my AR 8.6 Blk. 12 inch faxon, Had to get an SLR adjustable gas block to fit suppressor. First 8 rounds out of it are great. suppressor makes it wonderful, a little heavy but a short package. Running a SiCo 36M with ASR mount. I was looking at buying dedicated can 338 specific but will hold off and wait to see if they have a BOGO sale. Scope or Red dot with magnifier is my next problem.
Hello brother, keep up the good work
Hey!
The 8.6 BO caught my eye when it first appeared, I was interested in a big bore to run dedicated subsonic suppressed for hunting applications as I have 40 acres of property that is dense and next to a neighborhood. We as hunters get enough bad publicity so the noise levels will be down to not disturb anyone and hearing safe as a bonus. Currently running a 350L and 450BM and may add a 8.6BO to the collection as time goes on. Main benefits of the 350 and 450 is the availability of ammo that you can find at any shop.
I have a similar situation . I use a suppressed 45/70 and Hornady 410 gr sub x rounds .Push em right over 1000fps. Stand I use with that setup has about 70 yard max for a clear shot.
Haven’t taken a white tail with it at much more than 40 or 50 yards , but it works just fine. Not ideal expansion ,but all 3 didn’t go more than a few yards. I’d say 50-60% of expansion potential on the 2 bullets I found .
@@kevmoful Using the SubX 395gr rounds myself on the 450BM, On the 350L I am using a different brand totally blanking out on them at the moment. Just like you my shots are so limited and doubt I could find a place on the 40 acres with a 100 yards clear shot. Love to bow hunt there, feel guilty during muzzle loading season when that cannon fires off. Just trying to really keep the noise down to avoid complaints and risk losing the opportunity to hunt there.
Very impressive dude thinking about put it on my to buy list
I shoot a lot of Fort Scott Munitions ammo, from .380 up to .338 Lapua, and have had very good groupings and wound channels with everything I shoot. I was glad to see you send some of their 8.6Blkout down range. I would like to see this combination on a hunt. If they come out with a super sonic load, do you think you will do some testing with it as well?
Willing to bet the thread pitch is to prevent some dummy threading/attaching an undersized can, i.e. 30 cal, and hurting themselves/bystanders. We've seen so many .300 blk/ .223 mix-ups, only a matter of time before it would happen.
I’m hoping Ruger will make their Ranch rifle in the 8.6 Blackout. If not, then I’ll get one in 450 Bushmaster. They have subsonic ammo for the 450.👍
You could get a 8.6 barrel from mostek for the ranch. Alabama arsenal has one in his barrel size video.
You should do a video that explains the flight path of the 8.6. Then set up targets and hit different yardages like a sniper. 25 yard increments or something. Not sure what that rifle/round are capable of doing so you could do larger increments. 9 hole reviews does something similar but they haven't done 8.6 I don't believe. Nice looking setup for sure.
I kinda did that in another video already to 750 yards
@@WHOTEEWHO good deal. I missed it. I'll find it
I'm definitely going to buy this any bolt action when it comes out a 16-in or possible SBrd 10-in bolt action with a can this would be the ultimate backwards white tail cartridge
Your movin up in the world. When did you switch from paper plates? I'm still shooting cardboard/ sharpie targets.
I’ve got a Q fix 8 inch barrel pistol with a brace on it. It shoots about 1 inch groups at 100 yards. I need to get a better rest and see what it will really do.
Nice, good to see some local gun makers!
Gorilla ammo makes some good stuff for the 8.6, you need to test it out
That fort Scott tui is awesome for destruction not for making little holes in paper.
I don't think it's a good application for this cartridge.
I'd like to get one just to have something different. Which is why I bought my 6.5 creedmoor. Then everybody copied me, lol
Hey Whotee, is that a brand new gun (barrel)? Curious if you break in your barrels or just break em in by using em?
I know its done on the regular in the precision world and mileage may vary...
Also...at 3-4 ducks per booolet...thats an expensive proposition as a lot of companies seem to like 50 rounds for break-in. Ouch
I never break them in
BA has 8.6 barrels with 5/8x24 threaded!
45 Raptor is my new favorite cartridge. Give it a read I am sure you will be interested.
Hey wtw, dont know if your gunna keep this one but for a scope base with adjustable moa cant, monstrum makes some scope mounts for 25 bones.
Called balrog
I’d love to see the drop stats for that cartridge.
Same thread pitch for my friends cva scout V2 take down in 450 bushmaster. Makes no sense at all.
I think if you put that optic on a cantilever mount might help with your face being so squished on the stock! And might help with grouping
I was a lil late so watched from beginning. Thanks for info.
Thanks for watching!
Halworx Ballistics has some bargain priced 8.6 BLK ammo. Barrels with 5/8"-24 Muzzle Thread.
Make a video with audio at target. I want to hear what it sounds like suppressed from the animals perception. I would like to hear both 8.6 and 300 blackout. Thanks.
what is the sled and be nice to put a link in the description for those of us interested.
Ive been looking for an 8.6 BO and OWR Armament has nothing in stock on their website.
Alabama Arsenal swears by this round
Hello Who_Tee_Who!
I was curious to know at what distance to you Laser bore site this rifle?
10 yds
Still anxiously waitin for the reviews on ur new savages
Me too! This bad weather put me behind a bit
@@WHOTEEWHO I feel ya, same way up here in Indiana
8.6 blk out from aitken arms is great.
Always honest. 👍🙏👏
8.6 Blackout ammo from Fort Scott Munitions any good? About to find out.
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I like their other ammo 5.56 ,7.62 also 9 and 10 mm
Nice very nice thank you!!
shoots pretty good , guessing its not going to be cheap to shoot ?
Have you tried this ammo in 5.56? I have some and they group really good and work well on hogs!
I have not
In the Fort Scott Munitions 5.56 TUI ammo, I run their 62gr solid brass rounds.
@@phillipedds8998 same things i got, they are nice, at my local atwoods i can get them for 15 a box too!
This bullet is suitable for literally any north America medium or big game. Just wish the gun and ammo was more affordable
Wow, I'm getting 6.5-300 weatherby rounds for the same price as those. Dang!
The twist of the barrel is 1in3” Gorilla makes the ammonium that I have shot the best both sub and super
Interesting stuff! 😊
I am learning about 8.6 blackout , which is cheaper for ammo 8.6 or 300 blackout ?
A nice firearm and some nice groups. 🙂🙂
I have bear creek arsenal 8.6blk it seem I can't get it sighted in I used bore laser still not on paper at 100yards any ideas
I can see this round being a good brush round. Hogs, short range deer etc. But there are cheaper rounds that can do the job. But if you have bears in your area this might be the ticket.
What’s the difference between this cartridge and 358win?
Can you tell us more about those goofy threads?? Hilarious. But they are goofy.
I shoot S S. 185 CX and Tx Barns they shoot 2200 fps and shoot .500 @ 100 yards Buddy it flat shoots and hits hard
That’s a professional assassins rifle. Maybe Sylvester Stallone, Antonio Banderas, Bridget Fonda, Sean Connery or Tommy Lee Jones would have chosen it to take out their mark.
You forgot to mention Alec Baldwin.🤔
On second thought, he is more of a single action revolver guy.
This one i wanted to see
I understand the bean’s
Dead Air makes Keymo in that thread pitch. But not common.
I wish 8.6 could be my jam, but life is being made too expensive.
For the al gote rhythm!
WTW, we need a water jug penetration test please. Wonder how many jugs the 338/8.6 BO will penetrate.......
$$$ pulling the trigger :)
What brand scope and magnification is that?
Don't remember. Was borrowed
I don't see the use of this other than for room to room clearing, because it is a terrible round for hunting. You can't get the bullet to expand reliably. It may work with 180-225 grain slugs on hogs and bear under 50 yards.
Them boolats spendy either ready to fire or components.
WhoTeeWhoooo!!!
nice
How long is the barrel
I believe this was 16 in
sorry there it is, Caldwell DFT2 ! snake it would have bit me !
8.6 what?
there is NO way I can justify a box of ammo for 100 bucks thats ten boxes 5.56 and thats more FUN
Fort Scott Munitions 8.6 Blkout rounds are only $65.98 on their website.
This about seals the deal. I was sold when Demo did it, now to save for what I want.
It's an artillery round for an AR .....
I have a 8.6 blkout load my own. Can't afford store bought ammo
The goofy threading alone just turned me off from that rifle, there's plenty of standard thread pitches for .338 so if somebody in engineering or logistics doesn't know what they're doing, who else is goofing up??
That's a valid concern, no doubt. My thinking, though, is that Faxon (being one of only a few players in the 8.6BO game at the moment) is flooding the market with their barrels now while the 8.6BO hype is at its peak. So later, they can come out with their own line of thread adapters that go from goofy to standard. When that day comes, the price will be bonkers.
I could totally be wrong, but that's just the only reason I could think of to go goofy on a totally new line of barrels.
Aitken arms makes their 8.6 barrels with the standard 5/8x24.
@@matthasaname they forget there are lots of eBay machinist shops that can make thread adapters for $12 & free shipping.
You can find barrels with a more common thread pitch plus more people will be making stuff for 8.6 in the future
I built one of these about 6 months ago and what I found is the the 18x1.5 was a pretty standard threading for .338. But most muzzle devices up to that point were designed for 338 Lapua and not really what I wanted for that build. But now there are a few manufacturers making them specifically for 8.6. It was actually the last piece of the build.
Theres always one company that wants to do propitiatory parts or funky threads smh ..just complicating life for the rest of us 😂
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Anyone got any legit load data for 8.6?
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Nice man wanting the Stevens rifle
You was out hunting the great Tennessee Abominable Snowman! It’s still good enough to kill a deer!
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Not sure I care for this rifle caliber at all. Would be a great hogging gun but not sure I'd use it. Also being an AR platform .... no chance of owning one in Canada .
Not enough boogie
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@@WHOTEEWHO lol. I had not heard of this cartridge. So I watched your video, then did some quick research. I hope you do more videos about it. Would love to see some penetration tests. 😉 👍👍
PizzA
must be made by BCA......
Not a nail driver
Not to impressed with that ammo
It's hard to be impressed when your just shooting paper... time to go hunting... LOL
Yup fort Scott ammo is junk
It works every time for me.
Halworx great 8.6 ammo. Discount code if you need one! These from FS had trouble feeding for me too!