Was Cookie Run OvenBreak Removing The Gacha A MISTAKE?!
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2023
- The new Cookie Run: OvenBreak update introduced a few new things, such as making Currant Cream Cookie being playable, Mint Choco Cookie obtaining a Magic Candy, and a few other things! However, one of the major changes that they added to the game...or, more likely REMOVED from the game was the Gacha system!
The old way had you using chests to obtain many Cookies and Pets! However, the new way has you buy them and upgrade them instantly with Crystals. So, is this new system better than before, or is it a big mistake that people don't agree with?
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I think it's really about getting around laws that classify loot box mechanics in games gambling
If this is true then why the heck they didn't do the same thing with for costume and treasure gacha
@KrisKun93 I don't think they want to change everything at once, so it just looks like they've came up with a new system instead of telling everyone that their game is gambling for children.
I agree
I like this change though
@@kriskun93 plus they didn't touch crk's gacha. High-key doubt this is about the law
I liked the old gacha better.
While yes, it gives you the new stuff guarantee, the special chests did the same thing. Plus, you got other cookies, which make leveling them up easier. The leveling system is what frustrates me the most with the removal cause it was faster for the most part and I didn’t need the spirit potions necessarily. Now these new cookie/pet potions are a must to level up if you just don’t have enough crystals to level them up. While it costs less crystals to level up the cookies/pets, it’s still pretty awful.
once u have leveled up the cookie you're focused on (can be done in a day, i did it with the new cookie) you can just move on to another cookie, which can be a lot more helpful rather then the already low amount of copies of random cookies you get. i dont get why everyone's acting like getting 6 copies of leek cookie is a necessity to play this game, most new players only used 1-4 cookies max because of how slow it was leveling one cookie
@@cawewe The point wasn’t entirely the leveling system but the fact they’re the only way now to level up cookies but are primarily found as materials in the lab or gaining light spheres and spending them in the shop. The leveling system mostly effects those that want to do the cookie trials within the cookie cups or are like me who want to do the cookie passes. But what Bugs me most is that the cookie/pet gachas just feel a little barren and pointless when you can just get them and have to wait like 15 days to get more cookies.
@@cawewe yeah, but now it costs more, meaning it actually takes LONGER, not shorter amounts of time to do. (That is, if you're not throwing money at the game, like me)
Mario kart tour did this too, so, I know how it is. And yes, the no gatcha is a bad thing in the long run. TERRIBLE even
The reason why I like the old cookie gacha it's because of the mileage
@Carys I agree. I maxed out so many cookies since this updated, when before this, I had like 5 cookies that were 15 level. And I finished a lot of cookie trials too
This update is just perfect :)
I think it is slightly better in terms of levelling up. It feels better, but getting legendary cookies now is a big problem...
It costs about 130k to level up a legendary.
Back then, it would cost 180k.
It's way more cheap, but you have to pay directly instead of doing so with mileage, so it's partly a loss.
play breakout
@@Dlixer I can't level the dragon without the dumb guild things
@@Athenz86 then join a guild
To me:
No mileage points=No upgrade Longan :(
Yes, it's a biggest mistake. What makes it worse is it'll force you to get those cookies that you haven't when trying to play their Trial. :(
Fr 😭😭😭
I wouldnt call it the "biggest mistake" new lab takes that title, its still a bad move though, the old gacha system was much better
Its more because they have to because of (South) Korea's gambling laws.
Mhm yeah but yk theres gambling addictions
nahhhh fr fr
Played the game for around 10+ years, always loved the Gacha system. Not only does it guarantee the new cookies, but just the feeling of opening a chest and never knowing what you're gonna get is part of experiencing the game to its fullest. Haven't even logged in much ever since they took away the gacha system. :(
Another point, the chests designs are so iconic and pretty!! I really want it back!!
The gacha was with us for so long to the point where it just doesn't feel right. It also doesn't allow you to get old cookies..
I think that this update ultimately favors the ptw players, especially since the trade off with the chests resulted in players needing to be selective with who they level up. Its was much easier to passively level up cookies for a wider variery of cookies for events or guild runs and i definetly miss that now 😭
With the gacha, it was also unlimited, making it much easier to get the cookies you needed for leveling up, etc
I don't think this new thing allows you to repurchase the same cookies twice, so you're just kinda stuck with the one.
I’ll miss wasting my crystals and crying that I got a princess cookie for the 50th time in a row
i have mixed feelings about the new system
I think I like it, but I do see some having an issue with it, specifically the amount you get out of each cookie. You only get one cookie rather than multiple, and you can now upgrade with specific potions. Lucky you can use crystals if you want. This change will depend on someone’s pov.
Yeah, but now you'll be using more crystals than before depending on how much you need to level up a cookie/pet, which is rough on players who are F2P only. I had over 17k crystals, but now with this new system, that number has been going down faster than usual. It's a double-edged sword. It's easier to level up, but also a bit more expensive
@@akiraboroque yeah, it costs more crystals than before, so it's worse than before
If they release a feature like crk‘s witch to bake our beloved cookies and get cookies/cookies mileage(placeholder for soulstones in crob)and for pets too maybe?
That’d be nice
I like this update a bit because there is another way to get dragon cookies like pitaya, longon etc. guild coins are hard to get so it’s sort of good. But I really want the gacha back! It’s been a big part of the cookie run games so it needs to come back. The new leveling system with the cookie potions is very good so you don’t have to have like 1billion copies of habanero to max them out. But I think they should add the gacha back and also keep the star trial candies so players can get cookies along the way as well being able to gacha the cookies they got from the trial star candies. But also they removed cookie and pet mileage so I can’t get legendaries and epics after getting 5k anymore :c plus, they still kept the treasure mileage so why not re-add the ones for cookies and pets? The update has lots of good sides but the gacha removal is the bad side. Also, they still have the spirit potion jelly you can equip, so u can remember the old leveling system. Thanks for anyone who read up to here. :’)
Edit: also I don’t like the fact that u can’t play with cookies trials that are unobtained and they completely removed cookiedroid’s trial (if u haven’t noticed) and it bugs me so much that I can’t play lychee dragon’s trial anymore (I don’t have them) so I don’t know if this will be it forever or they will re-add the feature to play unobtained trials and maybe they could add a trial for hello kitty, mimmy and cookiedroid (special cookies)
Edit 2: btw lotus dragon has two trials for some reason? One has the epic pet and the other has the legendary pet it’s weird!
yeah, i agree…
I was thinking about it for a while and i do think that the change is good. All though leveling up cookies will become a issue, for me it already happened since i have no potions at all but i have plenty of gold that i can use for upgrades so i just have to resort to using crystals to upgrade BUUUT you need crystals if you want to unlock new cookies strait away. When devsisters improves the cookie/pet potions or at least increase the amount we are getting right now this new system will be a very good replacement.
Yeah me too
I feel like if they made it more accessible to get said potions and star crystals, the update would be fine. That's my only issue
Wait till the legendary cookies and pets arrive. Hell will break loose in anger!
Tbh, it's a mistake. I don't who says that the gacha is not good, but for me it's awesome, the gacha system is perfect, the fact that only for 2,900 or 1,900 diamonds, you can get not just your cookie/pet that you want, but also other cookies/pets that you might don't have or need to level up is the best thing ever. Without that gacha system you might not been able to get cookies/pets easily, and the new one seems weird, why would you spend your diamonds especially 2,900 or 1,900 diamonds just for the cookie/pet that you want, just 1 cookie/pet that you want and no other cookies, and if you don't want to use your precious diamonds, you have to grind to get those points and get your desire cookie/pet and it takes long time, and simply i hate it, CROB is a good game, i recommend it, but I think it's having a hard time getting the bridge up than down
came back to crob after a long-ish break, and was incredibly disappointed about the loss of gacha, since it feels more disappointing to lose more coins and diamonds that way
Tbh, I am pretty much neutral with the gacha removal.
While it does give new players a faster way to get cookies, it does get a little boring a while later, mainly because it makes the game more easy, and doesn't make you waste gems.
So I would say, It's 50% good, and 50% bad. (or neutral)
Agreed! I think this was a very simply put way to explain this update
Yea
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It sucks
I like this changes
Because i got mint choco to lvl 15 on 1 day
While average it only take cookies to lvl 15 like 7 days
And let me also not forget that i also reach diamond and master rank on mint choco trial
im personally a fan of this feature mostly because back in the day i hated having to rely on the gacha to upgrade my cookies, whereas now i can just do so with crystals more consistently. as for getting legendaries, i consistently get high ranks in ovenbreak and guild runs, so i dont feel too stressed about not having the random chance to get them since i can slowly upgrade them with the rewards from those modes too (plus i prefer most of my epics to the legendaries in trophy race anyway)
I felt like removing the gacha would be good but it feels really weird how you have to get 800 or so trial point things to get to the recent cookies
I'm pretty sure there were new Korean laws about gambling that applied to gacha. I really hope this isn't brought to crk though.
Im from the future and i loved this change for real uts so much easier to level the cookies you actually want to
I’m used to the old and I kinda wish it was set back to normal
BIGGEST MISTAKE It's so bad since we'd not get only one cookie
Personally I'm just waiting for what they might bring in the next update since my screen just says "please wait for the next update!" 😅
Yes, i came back so excited to pull some gacha, to find it gone. Replaced with the buy cookie/pet crap. If you don't have the crystals it's literally just "Oh time to grind!" But like, i don't have the damn time or patience for that it was so much easier to get cookies via the gacha chests..
They also removed the coloured crystals in a previous update i think, which was very upsetting as i needed those for fricking friendship with cookies.
I think it's bad. Personally, I recently just got back Into ovenbreak(for lychee and snake fruit cookie) and I was really disappointed about not having to be able to do the gacha. The gacha was my favorite part of the game.
The gacha system was the only thing making me play the game when arena changed so that means I have a gambling addiction and now I’m not playing the game anymore😀
I’ve been playing crk for the longest time and I decided to play ovenbreak for the first time literally today and I found it very confusing that I pretty much got a guaranteed legendary after like 10 mins. They better not change the gacha in crk to be like this. I like the old way a lot better.
Its horrifying my gambling addiction shall nver be quelled😭
as a person who started when overbreak still had gachas then deleted the game for storage reasons, I rather get the gacha back because its still ez getting Cookies in gacha
I joined recently, thinking it would have a gacha similar to cookie run kingdom and got confused at why it was so different. This explains a lot.
I wish I got to experience the gacha, I got overbreak after then gacha change.
Unlocking cookies was a bit of a struggle for me, so I just use points to get the latest cookie at my time, which was some eel guy
I in my opinion grinding trials my actually take a long time and if it takes a long time you cookies get released and it make its harder to get cookies if you dont have the treasures
I honestly dont know how it is for newer players, but ive been playing for a few years and have all the cookies, finished almost all trials, tons of mileage saved up, and earn crystals relatively fast, and its been way easier to level up everything now.
Though I don’t know if that’s just from the new events this month giving us more stuff or my saved up mileage now converted.
I do like being able to choose directly which cookie/pet each potion/crystal goes to as opposed to not knowing how much of them you’ll get from a chest.
I think it's GREAT! ❤🎉
I kind of hate it, I don't really am active, but I play once a month. Everything a new update drops, I'll just save some crystals and get the cookie (and pet if I have spare..) guaranteed.
But now, because no one likes me, I hate cookie trials. I mostly like Trophy race and Breakout. It would be more convenient if they made it that you could have soulstones just like in CRK.(Cookie run Kingdom.) Remember, this is my opinion. And I'm not changing it.
I love it, I've never been able to max out new cookies at this rate before
I think it's a pretty bad system. It's pretty hard because I don't want to be forced to do the trial to even just level up the cookie, and even then, it's not even enough to get both cookie and pet to level 15. If you want to level up a cookie after getting diamond (assuming the cookie doesn't have hard mode) you would have to rely on diamonds to level them up, or you would have to rely on trophy race chests, which have only a few cookies/pets you could get. And if you're a newer player it's super hard grinding for the trial star jellies. (I'm newer, because I'm about level 50, it's so frustrating. )
I remember when you can you one legendary cookie in common chest 😢 I miss those days
I don't get the removal of it, honestly.
To me, it feels HARDER to get more cookies.
Not only do you have to spend 2k-4k gems (depending on if the cookie is new or not), you also have to spend gems to level them up if you don't have potions.
I don't get how people are saying it's EASIER for F2P's when the game literally handed you gems. The chests weren't even expensive, and were pretty easy to pay for.
There was even a chest that gave you the cookie GUARANTEED if you PICKED IT. Which, again, was not that expensive to do! The game literally HANDS YOU GEMS.
Doing chests was less expensive than the new way of getting cookies. Maybe 1-2 chests at the least. You have to pay SO MUCH MORE just to get newer cookies and newer pets, just by paying for them + leveling them up.
It's ridiculous.
Same, before, you would pay and you would get multiple cookies and you would be able to get your selected cookie to level 4, but now, you have to pay 2,900 gems for ONE cookie, same with pets. You now have to pay 1,900 gems just to get ONE pet. It’s absolutely ridiculous
I honestly thinks is better this way, techincally there is a worst effience on the way u spend crystals but now you more ways to get them
To be honest, I like the new update, mostly because after I wouldn't be able to upgrade my cookies and pets to level 15 even if I tried a lot, because my gacha luck was ugly and all I received was 20 or 15 cookie fragments per chest, doing the level up of that cookie too slow.
While right now I only need 17k to level up the cookie that I want, before I need almost 40k to do it. So yeah, for me, it's totally worth it the change
I love new system more, cuz now i can rush cookie i need with crystals, about 900-1100 when in special gacha i spens 2000+ for half of the level on level 10-15 (yes with another rare/epic stuff (likely coins for duplicates))
I'd be gambling A LOT if this was still in the game (Yes I have a lot of crystals as a free to play)
Ik its easier to level up and a cheaper now, but i prefer old one because i also got other cookie because i aint just gonna buy all of the cookies ofc i also maxed some rares because of it there are rare cookies alternative that is good for breakout so it is worth it
I really hate this new system since before we can gacha for epic cookies and use mileage to buy legendary cookies. Now we need to use diamonds to buy them separately making it way more expensive to level up all cookies
I miss the excitement of a gacha system…
The change is bad, the icons looks so small, I can barely press it, the gacha system made it easy so I don't have to worry about the costs.
So glad I already had most of my legendaries leveled before this update. Would've been stupid expensive after this update without mileage being a thing anymore
I don't play this game, but sureness for a little extra work is FAR better than a Gacha system any day in my opinion.
I think with the old system all the cookies could be upgraded gradually with a slight main, but the new system allows you to main one cookie faster and then move on to the next one
changes are convenient for old players, but for new ones.. building a breakout team would be quite painful
Also I'm just glad that i maxed Timekeeper cookie before changes
My opinion on the new gacha system:
For one thing, it made it actually possible to upgrade my legendaries and get new ones which was pretty much impossible before. (I didn’t get champion league or a guild until after the update)
On the other hand, it made pretty much every other cookie and pet that much more annoying unlock to level up.
Really good update only thing i miss js the mileage for the legendarys
Am i the only one that noticed that this update was kinda like the brawl stars update when they removed the brawl boxes, but even that is better then this
i hate it, when I finally came back from cookie run oven break, I was surprised about there being no gacha system anymore, and I didn’t really like the game. I still like playing it though, but now there are no more normal levels in ovenbreak either, like there used to be too.
I cried a lot when i saw this😢
It's the most biggest mistake that they make I'm very disappointed😞
Honestly i don't think its bad (especially for the fact that i played this game after the update) it's just that they need to upgrade it
So my idea is that you can now still buy a
cookie just 75% cheaper and each time you buy it it adds 10+ of the cookie (what i mean is that you get 10 leveling up points) so its easier to level up your cookie. This also applies to the pet
Also the old gacha system is still here its just in the golden crystal place also if you hate the new gacha a lot you are probably blinded by nostalgia
I really miss the old one
I quit ovenbreak a while ago but when I played it again I was so confused with the chest being gone. The leveling up thing is good but the chest is way better, plus I love gambling my gems away... I have 16000 gems sitting in my invo and idk what to do with them anymore :(
Why can't we have both? When I downloaded the game this month, I was really confused because I didn't see a gacha and I wanted a gacha because I want the cookies faster. But I have to complete trails which I suck at to get the cookies for free which in a way is good? I don't need to spend actual money to get what I want but I need to be good in the game (and lvl up cookies) which is kinda ehhh
I quit brawl stars because they removed boxes..wtf ovenbreak why 🙂
Edit (on 8 March, 2024): I actually like this, I've changed my mind (on ovenbreak only) I still play BS, a little bit, only. As for OvenBreak.. Opposite. I started playing it on a daily basis, since I think it's better than Kingdom. Never thought I'd switch from Kingdom-only to almost OB-only. I'll only play CRK in the important updates with dragons/legendaries/ancients (beasts now, since all five are released)/etc.
i was about to play the game, but then this showed up, i was kinda upset.
I really hope it was an early April fools joke.. because i ended up quitting right after.
They didn’t even remove all of it.. there’s still treasure gacha.
I think it wasn't. Getting cookies is actually cheaper than with the Gacha and with the Gem Exchange you can practically max a non-Legendary in one day.
Well, a different game that I play added in gacha elements to replace a faulty system that they had for obtaining characters. Many characters used to be locked behind steep paywalls to where you couldn't obtain them unless you paid for their character package. The character package was about $40 US and only had the one character plus some mediocre additional stuff ( xp bottles).
A lot of those 'paywall' exclusive characters were either overpowered or so pathetic that their package wasn't worth it.
Since the swap, it's been a lot different and more beneficial for the game overall.
So maybe it's bad or maybe it isn't? I'd say probably bad.
Welp never gonna try Oven Break
"Enjoyable experience"
Someone has got to make a video about this mix bag if an update
100 star jellies to get banana cookie's pet speaks to themselves
Without gacha is lot harder
I think it’s the fact that now I only get one cookie and not others-
I don’t mind the new system for the most part but I don’t like that new cookie are locked now. In the new events for example to build a centipede cookie that can help me pass the event will take a lot more diamonds then before.
It's hard to level up now if the cookie doesn't have an event😢
I think the change is better because now you can level up the cookie you want in the special cookie just you can only get 20 of the cookie you want in the price of 2900 but now you can get 30 of the cookie in the price of 1350 it is a better the deal than before but I also think getting the new cookie and pet is worse than before
I honestly think it's great, I don't think I've ever gotten a cookie from lvl 1 to lvl 15 this quick before
There's only one probably I have with it, the trial Stars. It feels like there kinda pointless and just there to make it "free" to get new cookies/pets, even tho it takes so long to get them.
My take on this change is that it's more advantageous to the older players rather than any new upcoming players.
The reason why I think this way is because with the new system, it's actually MUCH cheaper to max out the Cookie that you want (in terms of crystals you need to spend.) For a point of comparison:
With the old system, it only guaranteed approximately 15-25 shards of the Cookie you wanted while you got shards of other perfectly random Cookies. So you paid 2,900 Crystals for 15-25 Cookie Shards and paid 1,900 Crystals for 15-25 Pet Shards. So you need to pay 2,900/1,900 for the equivalent of ONE level-up for the Cookie/Pet.
With the new system, it takes you approximately 15,000-20,000 Crystals to max out the Cookie and about 10,000-15,000 Crystals to max out the Pet.
However, I do agree that while the new system lowers the cost for maxing out a Cookie, it also makes it harder to build multiple cookies at once. So if you're a new player that wants to participate in multiple game modes, you'd need to put up with being able to reliably max out one Cookie at a time.
Fortunately, this is balanced out by the fact that newbies can max out certain Cookies by playing through Story Mode, so it's not so bad.
Overall, I still think that it's a net positive change, but one that could prove unfriendly to newcomers. Only time will tell if I'm wrong or not.
Honestly, while I don't completely hate the new system, I don't like it as much as the chests and eggs. For one, it takes away the early game variety that players who pick the game up for the first time in the modern day as opposed to those who first picked it up when it came out. Not to mention that, although Gems are easy to get without whaling, it'd take a lot more time and gems to max out even just ONE Cookie or Pet. Yes you could just buy whatever Cookies you want that appeals to you, but that can get super pricey. I wish they had kept chests in the game as solely Event Rewards or still obtainable in some way. Trial Candies require reaching specific ranks, and some people just wouldn't be able to reach those specific ranks without spending money.
I still enjoy the game, but it really is a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
i like this update because now i can focus on leveling up the cookies i want instead of overpaying for chests that include a bunch of other epics and rares that i don't even care about
Honestly, it's a big upgrade for me. Originally, I took like 3 months to level up a single cookie and pet to max, but now it's reduced to only one month or a week.
bad for me bc it harder to get legendary but good for new player
I would be more on the fence about this if everything else surrounding the main "no gacha" change weren't unfairly balanced too. For example: every chest and pet egg reward has been changed from 40 epics to 20 corresponding spirit potions. But, this includes the Escape Level chests too, which gave us 100 epics for our troubles!
Now, say maybe 100 spirit potions is too much; after all, they balanced those chests by allowing fully maxed epics could appear too, something no other chest did. But then they could have changed it to be 50 potions than, aligning with how other chests giving 40 epics converted to 20 potions. Except because they didn't give repeats, that compensation should be much higher than 20, like 30 or 35.
Then there's the escape level system in general. We get points for leveling up and upgrading our cookies and pets(and treasures), but now that the leveling system is being streamlined to not have "unwanted" copies, that means we won't be able to upgrade our other cookies on the side to help us build up those points. We have to unlock them first to even think about upgrading them and, especially if you're a new player, that involves completing trials.
But the trial star candies are not a currency like I assumed, but a point system. Meaning we can't just buy a cookie outright with them, there's an order to unlocking them. And from the looks of it, the newest cookies, a.k.a. the most urgent one to get so you can get the extra cookie cup rewards, are the actual last ones you'll unlock. You'll have to speedrun almost every other trial in the game (upgrade most of them too) just to get to the new one, let alone upgrade _them_ enough to finish their trial.
In conclusion, I'm not entirely upset at any single one of these arguments I'm making. But the fact that all of these factors were not accounted for and simultaneously feed into each other is really confusing me, since a big change like this requires a lot of forethought to ensure the state of the game remains the same or changes for the better, but these problems are evident only a week in.
I really think that this is bad because you also got other cookies and you like he said you even had a slight chance of getting a legendary cookie. You also can't play the trials for free anymore and you have the buy the cookie and pet. The same thing goes for the pet to.
The legendary pets cost 6600 crsytals now ITS INSANE??? Definetpy harder since you also need the gems to level up both cookies and pets if you don't have enough coins + making the poti9ns in the laboratory since you can only make them once and wait for days until you can make more-
Absolutely not because even though I’m regularly playing the game, I’m still about 1-2 hundred trial candies from even getting the new cookies because I had a break from the game during the eggnog and tiramisu update
Honestly, I think it’s bad because you need so much crystals to even buy one pet or cookie. It was hard for someone that doesn’t usually play cookie trials keep in mind you only get one and not 15
Edit:who is nobody responding
I do not like the new system. At least with the old system you could just blow some diamonds and level up a cookie, with the new system you have to get potions and then crafting them have a cool down n it sucks. It's worse cause I just picked the game back up too :(
it removed the tedious system of unlocking the cookies from trophy race so im happy
It is worst but the mechanic they added of leveling up cookies/pets with gems is spectacular, now i have all my favorites cookies and pets maxed 🐖🐖🐖
I preferred the Gacha. It made levelling much easier.
Honestly I have mixed feelings about it, yeah for me leveling cookies up easier…EXCEPT FOR THE LEGENDARIES. One thing about the gacha is that if you spend enough gems you can pick a cookie you want. It honestly made getting legendaries so much easier but now with the update it’s literal hell to get my lotus dragon cookie to level 10.
I left cookie run and came back it's now Astronaut update and I love Pizza but I Can't level her up cause I can't find her in the Gacha Please someone give tips on how to get her I don't wanna spend my Crystals
I Like it
But i miss the eggs and chests
In my opinion this was a very bad move, I'm a veteran player who lost their account, recently I came back to this....
I believe that the devs are slowly bringing this game to it's demise with each update having a ton of problems. I really enjoy this game but they are ruining it, Gacha was a Core part of the game..
Sadly the game is going downhill, I still love the game but recently It just feels like they are turning it to pay-to- play type, this game is still amaizing and I love it but I just hope they would hear the community out, They forcefully do updates that have major red flags, For example the jelly bear bomb set, what do they do? Change the name of the set and edit the time bomb bear jelly
I really miss the old Gacha, they have to bring it back...
Its really hard yo lvl up cookies when the only wsy you can upgrade them "consistenly" its by using gems ir poder, the only 2 Max lvl cookies i've got, once i maxed out before this update, and the other i maxed BC a current evento, but now whats...?
It kind of removes the whole point of rarity in the game so I don’t really know..