Thanks for the video, very clear! But I tried to go to the website but it is not reachable, at least not here in the Netherlands. (it says I could turn off my firewall but I don't wanna)
@@francel0198 8gb one has the 128 bit the 12gb one has 192bit also no that is not "very low for the price range" the rx 6700 has 160 bit and 6700 xt has 192 bit
one exception is that the 12gb 3060 is one of the cheapest GPUs you can find that has that much VRAM, so it's a fantastic choice for AI accel on the cheap
@@aziz.c63 I'm curious, does it work well with AI projects? coz, afaik you need a lot of VRAM and drivers for it ( from what others said, amd doesnt seem to have it ). I might be wrong, but Im asking this since I got a 3060 last week AND im a bit confused from these AMD shorts.
@@arandomguy9669 AMD cards don't have the greatest support for AI accel tasks and generally have kinda shitty throughput for it anyways due to lacking Tensor cores and whatnot, which is why i specifically recommended a 3060 but for gaming, which is what 99% of people use a GPU for, AMD cards are a fantastic value because you're not having to pay for all the AI silicon you're not gonna be using, plus they generally use much less power than the average NVIDIA card
Once the 6700 XT drops even more it will prolly be the best price to performance graphics card out there since it also has 12 GB VRAM and it can even do 1440p
I bought one brand new for same price and it lasted 1 month and a half before it shat itself and also killed my PC motherboard because it shat itself and was faulty 😂
I can 100% vouch on this take. My main PC is rocking the 3060 and has kept me happy for the most part, but I recently made a PC flip that included the 6600 XT and it absolutely SMASHED my personal PC’s benchmarks. I get on average 140 frames on Apex with the highest settings, but the 6600 XT was able to average around 40-60 frames higher. It was a very noticeable difference. Zach’s takes are always #1
@@XenoghostTVbrain dead. The XT gets almost double the performance at 1440p and about 25% more at 1080p. It trades blows with the 3060Ti. You cant go by on paper techpowerup lmao. In actual performance use. This is the reality. Look up a video for crying out loud.
@@alfonso5177from what i seen you have to use shark for amd , if you want to use sable difusion you will to be on linux ,also amd doesnt really compete in that area compared to nvidia ,also in productivy and rendering in things like blender, nvidia always wins , also i am getting an rx 6800 next week so 😂
@@alfonso5177Nope Nvidia still king there you know if you amd fan boys got Amd to develop Amd workstation performance, Amd would be a genuine threat to Nvidia i would love to see it
Why does it "sucks", they both have their advantages, for example, AMD being more price/competitive, u get more vram and more raw power, and now with the lastest driver u get Frame generation even on RX 6000 (rtx 3000 equivalent) on any game that runs dx10,11,12, opengl and vulkan, also Video Upscalling (RUclips or movies, media content, etc), new series has AV1 codec, so "nvidia for streaming and recording" is not a reazon anymore, drivers are good and satable (Not like 2015 times), nvidia has better RT perfomance and DLSS looks like 5-10% better than FSR 2.2/FSR 3, but thats all, there no a good reazon for being a fanboy nowdays. If nvidia drops an exclusive DLSS, will be for serie rtx 5000 or 6000, and not compatibl with 3000/4000 or olders, AMD still giving old gens the new technology. @@mahjoubadam1742
Just bought a brand new 3060 12gb for 279… can’t beat that, and my last gpu gtx 1070 last me till now and is actually still working very well, I only upgraded because the price was too good to pass up
@@deagle7776but nvidia is more customizable, more advanced technology (ray tracing, dlss etc) and better settings, better menu interface, more practical in these aspects
You have to look at this as a comparison to the previous giants on the list. It was one of the 10-series cards. The jump in performance from 10 to 30 is pretty substantial. And as someone who isn't very well versed in tech myself, plugging in another Nvidia card and the driver stuff being handled quickly and easily by geforce experience is one of those reasons why I have been skittish about switching to AMD. It's not quite as automatic as with Nvidia. Supposedly anyway. My point is, it's easy for me to see why 3060 was the step up. It's familiar, definitely an upgrade, most likely went for the 12 GB vram option, for amateurs like me, it looks like the obvious choice.
i recently upgraded from a 3060ti to a 7900xtx for just 900 bucks and although there are a bit more issues with the card, its still the second best graphics card on the market for less than half the price of the best card.
second best graphics card on the market for rasterized gaming* i went with a 4080 for $989 on prime big deals due to the fact that fsr 2 is just hot dog shit and I do more than just gaming
I grabbed a brand new PowerColor Fighter RX 6650 XT for $210 back in early December. The same card is still only $230 on Amazon at the moment. I could not be more impressed with the performance of this card, especially for how little I paid for it.
@@toodoo44Incorrect. The 3060 is very fast and even though it is slightly worse than the other one the 12gb of Vram means a lot when you are doing things such as rendering.
U know, nvidia do have problems in like 1% but for amd its way more common, so his statement is basicaly wrong. Amd has problems with drivers, nvidia doesnt. But it doesnt justify nvidia prices
@@ApocratesDexter Nvidia price is like what Apple price their product, overprice. Also my opinion about AMD's GPU is that its need configuration for it to work without trouble, after reading a lot of people's experience about AMD Driver, some of them say "I don't have any problem" And some say "I have problem" Even though they are use the same type of GPU (like Rx 6600) one still have problem might because by different PC component that might cause trouble to AMD's GPU.
@@kamipa5441 The comparison of Nvidia with Apple isnt correct in the slightest. Nvidia got features and more performant features that people actually use in daily life
I just bought a new RTX 3060 12GB for $250 USD over the counter in Canada. I don't game, but I wanted CUDA for productivity. I'm encouraged by ROCm progress lately, and I'm hopeful AMD will become competitive in non-gaming GPU applications. The 3060 will serve until the next generation appears.
Just playing games, yes. If you want to do anything else, you have to get nVidia. Hope AMD 8000 series finally get it going where we do not need to have to have NV card for anything other than gaming......(well, AMD works, but there need to be a lot of work around and software support)
@@Justgreen89925 Trust me, anything other than those software (handbrake also works), AMD card will not work. Cannot get hardware transcoded on H265 (only H264 works on GPU), not acceptable. Especially it should be supported. Also, Premiere is very expensive. I do not have that kind of money to pay for it. (Not asking for free, but something more affordable especially since I am not using it to make money)
@@Justgreen89925Blender has special Nvidia Acceleration. Nvidia Cards have NVENC codec which just shits on anything from AMD. Anything engineering related just shames AMD as well. AI just doesn't work with AMD cards. CUDA is a huge problem. Nvidia NSight is extremely valuable as a tool for people in the industry. Solidworks also uses hardware exclusive to Nvidia cards. Nvidia has collaborations with universities where they teach people about their tech. AMD does not do that. As a result 100% of the commercial GPU market is occupied with Nvidia and they are the industry standard. That is why all commercial software only work with Nvidia cards. Stop defending AMD cards cause they are only good at gaming and just accept that. A lot of us aren't just pure gamers and have jobs/hobbyists who need Nvidia cards to help us out. GPUs aren't just for games in 2023 and reviewers not conveying this information is honestly misleading. Also let's not forget that we are comparing raw performance here. Both AMD and Nvidia cards can handle light games very well and provide 200+fps. What really matters is the heavy games and there too Nvidia is just better with DLSS+FrameGen and the ray Tracing tech is just better. It also has Nvidia reflex for esports and I could continue this list but my hands are tired at this point. Yes the GPUs are expensive but AMD is not a better deal either.
@@rohansingh1057 You mentioned Solidworks, what about Creo - ex Pro/Engineer? A long time ago I did modeling of machine elements in Solidworks (and very little in AutoCAD), but I haven't done it for years, even though it's my profession. Recently a friend offered me to do modeling in Creo, so I need a new PC ASAP. I guess something like a GTX 1660 Super would be enough for me, but I've been eyeing the RX 6700XT, but your comment has me completely confused. What do you suggest? I'm also thinking about RTX 3060ti, or maybe used RTX 3070, or even GTX 1080ti. I don't even know which CPU to get, maybe i5 12400 or Ryzen 5 5600x, I stopped following trends when it comes to hardware a long time ago. I primarily need it for work and light gaming on a 1440p monitor, although I already have an Xbox for that.
@@Hadveena guy can use your ram if it is useing up all its ram and if you have 32 gb like me it dosen't matter I'm getting the rtx 4060 it would be a perfect match with my ryzen 5 3600
@@joelconolly5574in rasterized gaming may be so, but video or blender rendering is miles better on NVIDIA and the encoder is much better on NVIDIA too
Or, just go with the RX 6600 XT. You can find them in great secondhand condition for less than $350 AUD / $235 USD. Very solid for 1080p and even 1440p gaming. This current generation is best skipped although should the 7600's price drop to below $250 USD then it's going to be an easy recommendation.
How was it not obvious to you that we’re talking about new cards? Is used a good option? Yes, but don’t underestimate just how valuable the peace of mind from buying new is for many people, and the convenience.
@@reijikashihara4645 you do realize you dont see the bottom of the card right? And that different companies make different looking cards of the same model? I ain't broke cuz I didn't waste my money on a 3060. Bro you don't even know anything about drivers and you using that as a reason.
Because it's getting outdated, yes it has 11gb, but it doesn't support mesh shaders to begin with, alan wake 2 is almost unplayable, yes sure, it can play a lot of older games, but it's not the 4K card it once was.
AMD driver issues is always an issue. AMD has always had issues and I my latest upgrade was AMD and while I feel like I got more value for money the issues that I deal with sporadically remind me of this ever prevailing issue
Made the switch to AMD and have not regretted it- especially if you have an amd chip, they work so well together and some actually support raytracing (which honestly feels like a waste to framerates)
@byronyoung5818 were you switching from nvidia and makining an actual step up? I went from a 2070 super (an absolute beast in 1080 for a long time) but when I decided to go to 1440p, decided that 6900xt would be best bang for buck for what I was looking for
I live in a country where electronics pricing is messy because almost everything is imported with varied taxes, making AMD & Nvidia usually evenly priced. I go with AMD because those cards have more reliabitly and lifespan. Two Nvidia cards died on me, three if you count the "I'm seeing signs".
Never had any problem of driver when I had an Nvidia card. I have owned a 7900XT for two months and I ran into several driver problems. I actually had to roll back to a previous version. You can't say there are no problems with AMD or less. Feels way more in my case.
The 6650 XT actually beats the 4060 as well which is crazy. AMD on top but I believe the intel Battlemage will become the best price to performance GPU line up
@@aregulargenericname8794and all the other people who’ve made the 3060 / ti so popular. Still find it funny how AMD fans are always try to prove something. Just pick what works for you.
@@mastertang4200 not at all, rather reliability. If AMD is your preferred vendor that's great, it just amuses me how folk buy them then feel the need to prove / justify their choice.
The 3060 has Ray racing cores, and amazing features like DLSS. It also has a built in video encoder which makes it so so much better for streaming and content creation than an AMD GPU.
I've saw 3 people complaining about 3000 series drivers. And I've seem 10 times more about AMD 6000s drivers. It really feels like going red is a gamble, it may be wroth if they are 10%-15% cheaper.
Got a 3060 back during the scalping days for like $700. I was impatient and made a rash purchase. Don't regret it one bit though, cause I've had a great time with it since. In 2024, I'd just get an AMD card tbh
good arguement but nvidia has more software and ai technologies which are incomparable to amd's. If you want to stay on team green, then this is the card
I have upgraded but I still have my Rx570 😅 just gonna keep it for the apocalypse. It's survived this long, same with my og elite Xbox 360. It's just preloaded with banger games 😂
I gave AMD 3 chances on video cards, and sadly the driver issues ruined team red for me at least for gpus, I still rock my ryzen cpus but gonna be nvidia all the way for me from now on
@@AlpineTheHuskyThis dude literally builds hundreds of PCs for his business. If he doesn’t find them an issue, I don’t think it’s an issue for the vast majority of cases. Same with most other tech RUclipsrs.
@@Polymath2B If a sponsored tech youtuber doesnt find issues then either its because he is sponsored or has a bias like basically every human being. I for one build computers for companies and for my own sanity only use Nvidia Cards for mid-higher end customers and intel CPUs for high uptime requirements. AMD or Intel CPUs if certain aspects are needed like Intel Accelerators or High AMD core count and density and cache. AMD cards I usually reserve for Applications requiring many displays at a low price like for Mcdonalds or video walls. Most of my private customers are either people who need office PCs or Gaming PCs. Office PCs for higher end users I switched to AMD APUs for lower end "Dad" like office PCs I go with Intel because of reliability and stability. Gaming PCs I take what the user demands as most "Gamer" customers come in saying "I have XYZ Budget and want AMD/Intel CPU and want a AMD/NVIDIA GPU". Then I try to recommend based on what fits and then have to readjust because its rare that someone who wants AMD will accept Nvidia or someone who wants Nvidia to accept AMD and god forbid I recommend Intel to anyone but for content creation servers
The problem is in different countries stuff is priced different Here in my country an rtx 4060 (the worst price to performance gpu) Is actually one of the best in my place because of the price range it is. Idk if this happened because of the negative response And it has frame gen (which is obviously not something that i should say but its still a nice addon) And its still a nice upgrade from gtx 1650
I would but the way that Nvidia updates and releases their new drivers is much more simpler instead of having to search hours for every time u have to update ur graphics driver
Everyone I’ve ever known in my life has had the same consistent issues with AMD cards. Nvidia ones are few are far between, if any (from my experience).
i have a 3060 12gb model thats its stock clock is faster than a 3070. and its not a bad card brand new for $300 plus with small side features that i need like nvidia broadcast literally make my life 1000 times better, best money you can spend on a budget card. every time i had a amd product it takes them like 3 months to even patch out a bad driver that doesnt let you use a card or it just dies after a year of use
comparing mine to the 6650xt mine whoops its ass for like 40 bucks more plus the drivers wont be bad :3 also its not over paying its paying the extra money knowing the computer will last a few more years than the amd e-waste comparison
Sent two amd cards back a few days ago. Two different pc one with windows 10, one new build will widows 11. Both crashed constantly. Put a 1660 super in no problems, put my rx 580 in no issues. 7000 series card driver issue are real.
rtx also has the dlss suppoer, which boost ur fps by a lot with minor issues in detail, and also in my area costs around 272, so its a better deeal with the 12gb vram
I got a 3060 for 250 on tax free weekend. The only reason I went with Nvidia over amd is cause blender is built for Nvidia and amd still has render issues on it
I’m probably going to go for a budget 3060 build. Amd FSR combined with dlss would be pretty nice for me considering my parents don’t have a good financial situation and the 3060 is cheaper for me in the state I live in. I would be getting a massive increase in fps considering I play games with around 5-10 fps with 15 at most on some cheap hp laptop I got years ago connected to a 240hz spectre monitor because I thought I could play on a monitor by itself☠️ I was going to go with a budget 4060 build but I’ve learned my lesson now🌚
It all depends on what you want to use it for. If you want to run AI apps like Stable Diffusion, you needs CUDA support which is only provided with an NVIDIA card.
You're surely right but i've got lucky buying, last week, a used ASUS 3060 in very good condition, for 180 euros, and in extra , for the incoming games, 12 gb vram will surely be useful :)
That is really good advice because I am helping a friends brother, but are still in the part-pickingphase and actually the rx 6650 got a lot of backlash so when I looked it up I found less complaints about the 6650 and the 3060, which I why I was going to ho with the 6650
Currently At my place, Rx6650XT (8GB) and RTX3060 (12GB) are at the same price right now at $300. So i am considering Nvidia. My only goal is to play Doom eternal
@@mastertang4200if it's only for gaming then 6650xt is best choice but if it's for gaming, editing, 3d sculp, stable defusion etc then 3060 is the best choice.
I have a rx 5700 in my PC and yes it has some driver issues even after 4 years of owning it. But those issues rarely happen. It doesn't ruin my games constantly and completely. In some games driver timeouts happen rarely or never. In some games more often. I play mostly pirated games but also from steam and epic too. So the problem could be more from the pirated games then from the Amd driver.
KEEP in mind that the 6650 XT only has 8 PCIe Lanes on the 4.0 x16 connection, so If your MB has a PCIe 3.0 x16 graphics slot or lower it will make a difference with the 3060 who has 16 PCIe Lanes
I'm not really an 8GB vram person I like gpus with 12gb vram or more but I'm not saying the 6650 xt is bad people have their opinions and I respect that but this is my opinion
Yeah but nobody ever talks about your monitor, if you have freesync monitor, go with amd and gsync nvidia. If you choose opposite you get lots of problems and not so smooth framerate.
Not everyone plays games when they are at work. People need a GPU that can be helpful for content creation, CGI artist and also give a decent frame rate in games while not being heater in summer time. Not everyone lives in a cold place. Temp's matters for laptop users.
I got the MSI 6650 XT Gaming X and its a beautiful gpu with rgb and amazing performance! My cpu is the ryzen 5 5600 and it works also very fast and i have no bottleneck
By the way, AMD drivers are the best.. They may have issues on occasion during the launch of a game, but AMD is on top of it, creating way bigger performance jumps with all their driver updates, and they support their cards so much longer than Nvidia. I say this as the owner of a 3090 in my desktop and a 6600 in my laptop. I know for a fact, that my 6600 will be supported long after the 3090 loses nvidia's blessing😂 Also, the 6600 in my laptop is so much smoother than the 3060 laptop- which wasn't the case when they came out, but thanks to driver updates and time, amd made it spank 3060 laptop, and it's got 8 gigs of vram😎
We have PC builds IN STOCK today at zttbuilds.com 😉
Thanks for the video, very clear! But I tried to go to the website but it is not reachable, at least not here in the Netherlands. (it says I could turn off my firewall but I don't wanna)
I can't tap the link
but i need nvenc and 12 gb vram for editing :(
@@Kevin_Billy youtube updated where you cant press links
Lmk when you take this video down now that 10% of steam users have a 3060
As long as you get a 12 gb 3060 you should be fine and especially used
128 bits...
it’s like 300 bucks rn
@@francel0198 3060 12gb is 192 bits tho
@@gokay2delen636 it's depends, one have 128 and others have 192bits. But still very low in compare with other graphics card at the same price range
@@francel0198 8gb one has the 128 bit the 12gb one has 192bit also no that is not "very low for the price range" the rx 6700 has 160 bit and 6700 xt has 192 bit
one exception is that the 12gb 3060 is one of the cheapest GPUs you can find that has that much VRAM, so it's a fantastic choice for AI accel on the cheap
rx 6700 xt is day and night better
@@aziz.c63 I'm curious, does it work well with AI projects? coz, afaik you need a lot of VRAM and drivers for it ( from what others said, amd doesnt seem to have it ). I might be wrong, but Im asking this since I got a 3060 last week AND im a bit confused from these AMD shorts.
@@arandomguy9669 yeah rx 6700xt has 12 gb of vram
@@arandomguy9669 AMD cards don't have the greatest support for AI accel tasks and generally have kinda shitty throughput for it anyways due to lacking Tensor cores and whatnot, which is why i specifically recommended a 3060
but for gaming, which is what 99% of people use a GPU for, AMD cards are a fantastic value because you're not having to pay for all the AI silicon you're not gonna be using, plus they generally use much less power than the average NVIDIA card
@@aziz.c63only for gaming, for blender and other important applications nvida’s tech is an absolute must you cannot work without
Once the 6700 XT drops even more it will prolly be the best price to performance graphics card out there since it also has 12 GB VRAM and it can even do 1440p
that already dropped long ago wdym?
And it will still have less than 0.5% market share lol 😂 nobody is buying AMD
@@Shadow_RTS it will drop even more as new amd card launches
@@Mist11305 of course
@@tylerclayton6081hat's why they are cheap
Bought 3060 12gb for Ai Stable Diffusion. For just gaming, yes go AMD. For both, 3060 12gb is good for beginners.
its 240$ now super good deal getting it asap🔥
I have it it’s amazing
same
I bought one brand new for same price and it lasted 1 month and a half before it shat itself and also killed my PC motherboard because it shat itself and was faulty 😂
Oof glad i got mine used since it has been through shit already and survived @DepressedAsfGaming
Skill issue @@ForLifeUnvaccinated
I can 100% vouch on this take. My main PC is rocking the 3060 and has kept me happy for the most part, but I recently made a PC flip that included the 6600 XT and it absolutely SMASHED my personal PC’s benchmarks. I get on average 140 frames on Apex with the highest settings, but the 6600 XT was able to average around 40-60 frames higher. It was a very noticeable difference.
Zach’s takes are always #1
6600 xt should be better than the 3060 since it's an xt card. The 6600 should be compared to 3060 ti to make it fair.
No shit, you got yourself a 6 or 8 GB VRAM 3060 rather than a 12 GB one.
@@XenoghostTVand how do you know?
@@XenoghostTVbrain dead. The XT gets almost double the performance at 1440p and about 25% more at 1080p. It trades blows with the 3060Ti. You cant go by on paper techpowerup lmao. In actual performance use. This is the reality. Look up a video for crying out loud.
For gaming yes. For playing with AI and ML like Stable Diffusion, 12GB VRAM on 3060 is a steal.
Amd launched a driver specially for stable diffusion, so not.
Then 20 usd more and get 6700 xt that is even better and has 12gb (beats rtx 3070 in most games or equal it)
@@alfonso5177what 6700 xt u mean can u type the name fully? I want look it up on google
@@alfonso5177from what i seen you have to use shark for amd , if you want to use sable difusion you will to be on linux ,also amd doesnt really compete in that area compared to nvidia ,also in productivy and rendering in things like blender, nvidia always wins , also i am getting an rx 6800 next week so 😂
@@alfonso5177Nope Nvidia still king there you know if you amd fan boys got Amd to develop Amd workstation performance, Amd would be a genuine threat to Nvidia i would love to see it
I got the 3060 mainly because of me worrying abouy vram, its also that the 6650 xt was only around 30 bucks cheaper than a 3060 where i live
What about the 6700 xt?
Then 10 usd more and get 6700 non xt that is even better (like a 3060 ti)
@@alfonso5177 AMD sucks bro, Nvidia has all the latest technologies, what if another DLSS-like technology drops and is exclusive to Nvidia again?
Why does it "sucks", they both have their advantages, for example, AMD being more price/competitive, u get more vram and more raw power, and now with the lastest driver u get Frame generation even on RX 6000 (rtx 3000 equivalent) on any game that runs dx10,11,12, opengl and vulkan, also Video Upscalling (RUclips or movies, media content, etc), new series has AV1 codec, so "nvidia for streaming and recording" is not a reazon anymore, drivers are good and satable (Not like 2015 times), nvidia has better RT perfomance and DLSS looks like 5-10% better than FSR 2.2/FSR 3, but thats all, there no a good reazon for being a fanboy nowdays.
If nvidia drops an exclusive DLSS, will be for serie rtx 5000 or 6000, and not compatibl with 3000/4000 or olders, AMD still giving old gens the new technology. @@mahjoubadam1742
@@mahjoubadam1742 💀💀💀
Fuuuck. I just purchased the ZOTAC RTX 3060 Twin Edge 12gb DDR6 for $297 like 5 hours ago
u sold, the 6750xt is 300$ and its as good as 3070
Rtx 3060 is good
Rtx 3060 is 75 usd cheaper in india compared to rx 6650 xt
"there's no AMD driver issue" nah fam we good 2024 and I still having trouble with it
Just bought a brand new 3060 12gb for 279… can’t beat that, and my last gpu gtx 1070 last me till now and is actually still working very well, I only upgraded because the price was too good to pass up
Not bad. But a $310 6700xt wouldve been way better for only a bit more money.
@@deagle7776 it's 6700xt good for work?
@@deagle7776but nvidia is more customizable, more advanced technology (ray tracing, dlss etc) and better settings, better menu interface, more practical in these aspects
Which model?
@@ronnieclarinjavrj3948amd can use raytracing and dlss as fsr so idk what ur talking about
You have to look at this as a comparison to the previous giants on the list. It was one of the 10-series cards. The jump in performance from 10 to 30 is pretty substantial. And as someone who isn't very well versed in tech myself, plugging in another Nvidia card and the driver stuff being handled quickly and easily by geforce experience is one of those reasons why I have been skittish about switching to AMD. It's not quite as automatic as with Nvidia. Supposedly anyway. My point is, it's easy for me to see why 3060 was the step up. It's familiar, definitely an upgrade, most likely went for the 12 GB vram option, for amateurs like me, it looks like the obvious choice.
i recently upgraded from a 3060ti to a 7900xtx for just 900 bucks and although there are a bit more issues with the card, its still the second best graphics card on the market for less than half the price of the best card.
"just" $900... even then the 7900XTX is overpriced.
second best graphics card on the market for rasterized gaming*
i went with a 4080 for $989 on prime big deals due to the fact that fsr 2 is just hot dog shit and I do more than just gaming
@@casmithhcongrats, we don’t care
I got it for 250 when a 2060 costed 1k(in the crypto miner times) I’m perfectly happy with it
I grabbed a brand new PowerColor Fighter RX 6650 XT for $210 back in early December. The same card is still only $230 on Amazon at the moment. I could not be more impressed with the performance of this card, especially for how little I paid for it.
Where i live they're at the same price and i actually bought a 3060 instead of the 6650 because it has 12gb of vram and the nvenc codec
Do not mention the nvenc codec. There's literally no difference and you're not streaming at 4k
3060 is anyway slow. And 12gb almost meaningless in it
@@toodoo44Incorrect. The 3060 is very fast and even though it is slightly worse than the other one the 12gb of Vram means a lot when you are doing things such as rendering.
@@Shiddarutostill native graphics are better to play without dlss and fsr
In which amd is better
So amd smashes there
@@Shiddarutofr FSR literally just sharpens the image causing the game to look grainy.
I gotta agree with your opinion, every driver might have issue but most of them have solution. We gotta learn the solution and fix the problem.
U know, nvidia do have problems in like 1% but for amd its way more common, so his statement is basicaly wrong. Amd has problems with drivers, nvidia doesnt. But it doesnt justify nvidia prices
@@ApocratesDexter Nvidia price is like what Apple price their product, overprice. Also my opinion about AMD's GPU is that its need configuration for it to work without trouble, after reading a lot of people's experience about AMD Driver, some of them say "I don't have any problem" And some say "I have problem" Even though they are use the same type of GPU (like Rx 6600) one still have problem might because by different PC component that might cause trouble to AMD's GPU.
AMD really need to focus on their Driver problem in the next series
@@kamipa5441 The comparison of Nvidia with Apple isnt correct in the slightest. Nvidia got features and more performant features that people actually use in daily life
Its an okay price card that gives u access to DLSS, theres no loss in either case tbh
Even with DLSS on t he RX 6650 XT is faster, because raw power, also we have FSR 2.2 wich is like 90 to 95% of dlss
@@alfonso5177the 3060 gives acess to 12 gb of vram so there is still no loss, just buy what advantages you prefer
@@alfonso5177 bro fsr dosen't compare with dlss 3.5 in any way in terms of image quality in some games dlss better than native quality
@@alfonso5177 60 to 65% in terms of quality 😭
@@alfonso5177fsr is thrash compared to dlss
maybe prices have changed but I just bought a White 3060 for like $270 brand new
8gb?
the rx 6600 is 200-220$ nowadays and the 6650 xt is 280$ for gaming only? yeah both of these beats rtx 3060
I was like, who's paying 350 for a 3060? I've seen it under 300 for a while and closer to 250 rn on par with the 6650 XT, 300 gets you a 4060 now
with 300 u can get a 6700 xt...
@@imrgalaxy6684European prices 3060 is 340€ and 4060 is 380€
I just bought a new RTX 3060 12GB for $250 USD over the counter in Canada. I don't game, but I wanted CUDA for productivity. I'm encouraged by ROCm progress lately, and I'm hopeful AMD will become competitive in non-gaming GPU applications. The 3060 will serve until the next generation appears.
Just playing games, yes. If you want to do anything else, you have to get nVidia. Hope AMD 8000 series finally get it going where we do not need to have to have NV card for anything other than gaming......(well, AMD works, but there need to be a lot of work around and software support)
@will3641 nvidia shill
I use my RX5700XT for Premiere Pro, Blender and streaming and it works amazing, i don't know what is your problem w them
@@Justgreen89925 Trust me, anything other than those software (handbrake also works), AMD card will not work. Cannot get hardware transcoded on H265 (only H264 works on GPU), not acceptable. Especially it should be supported. Also, Premiere is very expensive. I do not have that kind of money to pay for it. (Not asking for free, but something more affordable especially since I am not using it to make money)
@@Justgreen89925Blender has special Nvidia Acceleration. Nvidia Cards have NVENC codec which just shits on anything from AMD.
Anything engineering related just shames AMD as well. AI just doesn't work with AMD cards. CUDA is a huge problem. Nvidia NSight is extremely valuable as a tool for people in the industry. Solidworks also uses hardware exclusive to Nvidia cards.
Nvidia has collaborations with universities where they teach people about their tech. AMD does not do that. As a result 100% of the commercial GPU market is occupied with Nvidia and they are the industry standard. That is why all commercial software only work with Nvidia cards.
Stop defending AMD cards cause they are only good at gaming and just accept that. A lot of us aren't just pure gamers and have jobs/hobbyists who need Nvidia cards to help us out. GPUs aren't just for games in 2023 and reviewers not conveying this information is honestly misleading.
Also let's not forget that we are comparing raw performance here. Both AMD and Nvidia cards can handle light games very well and provide 200+fps. What really matters is the heavy games and there too Nvidia is just better with DLSS+FrameGen and the ray Tracing tech is just better.
It also has Nvidia reflex for esports and I could continue this list but my hands are tired at this point.
Yes the GPUs are expensive but AMD is not a better deal either.
@@rohansingh1057 You mentioned Solidworks, what about Creo - ex Pro/Engineer?
A long time ago I did modeling of machine elements in Solidworks (and very little in AutoCAD), but I haven't done it for years, even though it's my profession. Recently a friend offered me to do modeling in Creo, so I need a new PC ASAP. I guess something like a GTX 1660 Super would be enough for me, but I've been eyeing the RX 6700XT, but your comment has me completely confused.
What do you suggest? I'm also thinking about RTX 3060ti, or maybe used RTX 3070, or even GTX 1080ti. I don't even know which CPU to get, maybe i5 12400 or Ryzen 5 5600x, I stopped following trends when it comes to hardware a long time ago. I primarily need it for work and light gaming on a 1440p monitor, although I already have an Xbox for that.
I just bought the rx6650xt for my first PC. Its great.
No rtx on nor dlss
@@Star-py8zl who cares about the rtx they looked the same
@@bahkeru645i like nvidia a bit more but i have to say that no one uses rt at the end of the day
@@Star-py8zl who the fuck uses dlss on a low to mid end card bruh
@@arcane1845 which card you talking about even?
12gb is needed for streaming and future proofing. Do not buy 8gb
Are you streamer?
Not all need to be a streamer
need more than 8gb vram game is only hogwarts legacy rt
I'm gonna get thr rtx 4060 my pc has 32 gb and a ryzen 5 3600 your gpu can use ram if needed
@@Hadveena guy can use your ram if it is useing up all its ram and if you have 32 gb like me it dosen't matter I'm getting the rtx 4060 it would be a perfect match with my ryzen 5 3600
I just planned a pc build for my friend and since he wants to have good graphics at 1080p, he’s getting a 12gb 3060 with a ryzen 9 5900x
Here in the indian market, the 3060 costs around $340 and the 6650 xt costs $480. The price disparity here is extremely large
The 3060 did drop to around the same proce as a 6650xt locally so that price advantage isn't as much as it used to be.
yes but performance is still worse than the AMD card.
@@joelconolly5574in rasterized gaming may be so, but video or blender rendering is miles better on NVIDIA and the encoder is much better on NVIDIA too
Or, just go with the RX 6600 XT. You can find them in great secondhand condition for less than $350 AUD / $235 USD. Very solid for 1080p and even 1440p gaming. This current generation is best skipped although should the 7600's price drop to below $250 USD then it's going to be an easy recommendation.
How was it not obvious to you that we’re talking about new cards? Is used a good option? Yes, but don’t underestimate just how valuable the peace of mind from buying new is for many people, and the convenience.
@@DeepfriedBeans4492 Shut up, nerd.
@@DeepfriedBeans4492many cannot just simply afford the convenience lmao
I saw the RX 6600 XT beeing sold new for 240 and below now
me who just bought a 12gb 3060 last week:
shut up amd nerd
Same lol I Bought the gamming x model with rgb for $309 and I could care less about this ugly ass card.
Yall got scammed like crazy 💀. Love when people spend a hundred extra bucks and be like amd bad xuz i said so.
@@vectorperkins5666 if u broke jus say so lmao , im not gonna go out of my way to have an ugly ass card with drivers i dont like just to save 100$
@@reijikashihara4645 you do realize you dont see the bottom of the card right? And that different companies make different looking cards of the same model? I ain't broke cuz I didn't waste my money on a 3060. Bro you don't even know anything about drivers and you using that as a reason.
@@reijikashihara4645nvidia sheep over here
I don't understand why nobody mentions the 1080ti 😐
I find that people are selling them for way to much nowadays
@@RETR0NIAN i hate the watt consumption of it. oh hell no and takes allot of space
Because it's getting outdated, yes it has 11gb, but it doesn't support mesh shaders to begin with, alan wake 2 is almost unplayable, yes sure, it can play a lot of older games, but it's not the 4K card it once was.
AMD driver issues is always an issue. AMD has always had issues and I my latest upgrade was AMD and while I feel like I got more value for money the issues that I deal with sporadically remind me of this ever prevailing issue
Made the switch to AMD and have not regretted it- especially if you have an amd chip, they work so well together and some actually support raytracing (which honestly feels like a waste to framerates)
I got a 6600 worst idea ever if I would’ve went up more it might’ve been better
@byronyoung5818 were you switching from nvidia and makining an actual step up? I went from a 2070 super (an absolute beast in 1080 for a long time) but when I decided to go to 1440p, decided that 6900xt would be best bang for buck for what I was looking for
@@seananderson5748 yea I was on nivida and went to 6600 it just stutters to much
3060 TI IS GOOD FOR CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS
8GB VRAM is ass
It's really only viable if you need the better encoder or CUDA cores
@@VN_drums let me introduce you to Intel iGPUs which can do double the encoding amount for free, instead of paying 2000$ for a low tier GPU
Get a Quadro
@@top.of.redditwhat is this
I live in a country where electronics pricing is messy because almost everything is imported with varied taxes, making AMD & Nvidia usually evenly priced.
I go with AMD because those cards have more reliabitly and lifespan. Two Nvidia cards died on me, three if you count the "I'm seeing signs".
Never had any problem of driver when I had an Nvidia card. I have owned a 7900XT for two months and I ran into several driver problems. I actually had to roll back to a previous version. You can't say there are no problems with AMD or less. Feels way more in my case.
Got a 3060ti for 270 used and honestly best decision ever
The prices are even lower now it’s insane.
@@johnnytv7620on jit
250
8gb tho is a rip
@@AssassinIsAfkim pretty sure 3060 ti will be fine for next 6 to 8 years in 1080p
This channel always say NVIDIA bad and and good
Cuz that's how it is nowdays lmao
The 6650 XT actually beats the 4060 as well which is crazy. AMD on top but I believe the intel Battlemage will become the best price to performance GPU line up
Stop smoking bro
@@ROBALHC I was being sarcastic lol
@@BruceWaynge ok that make sense now, remember that it's very hard to notice sarcasm on written text.
I mean but it is @@BruceWaynge
I'm getting a zotac 3060ti for 100$ steal of a deal super thankful 🙏
when i got my used 12gb 3060, i picked it up for quite a bit cheaper than any comparable card so i'm pretty happy with that
Disclaimer:- this video is made by collaboration between amd and this creator
Because obviously this brand cannot make a better product then my favourite brand
@@aregulargenericname8794and all the other people who’ve made the 3060 / ti so popular. Still find it funny how AMD fans are always try to prove something. Just pick what works for you.
@@BikingChapSo you prefer GPUs in terms of popularity?
@@mastertang4200 not at all, rather reliability. If AMD is your preferred vendor that's great, it just amuses me how folk buy them then feel the need to prove / justify their choice.
The 3060 now goes for $200, I think it's a good buy.
Diffrent country then
Its really hard to find those 6000 series amd cards in my country anyways so i just bought the 3060
The 3060 has Ray racing cores, and amazing features like DLSS.
It also has a built in video encoder which makes it so so much better for streaming and content creation than an AMD GPU.
Lmao the 6600xt and 6650xt also both have Raytracing cores(32) and FSR or Super Resolution.
Relive is better than Nvidia's capture software. By far.
@@tacticalmattress having them doesn't equal them being good
As a south african laptops dont come with an rx 6650 xt
I've saw 3 people complaining about 3000 series drivers. And I've seem 10 times more about AMD 6000s drivers. It really feels like going red is a gamble, it may be wroth if they are 10%-15% cheaper.
12gb 3060 on Newegg for $280 now
*12GB has left the chat*
*ray tracing has left the chat*
Or go for the 7600
yeah go for the card that has VRAM problems today not in a few years, today
Got a 3060 back during the scalping days for like $700. I was impatient and made a rash purchase. Don't regret it one bit though, cause I've had a great time with it since.
In 2024, I'd just get an AMD card tbh
i'd get AMD card if they weren't like 100 euro more expensive than Nvidia cards in my country. also i trust Nvidia more
good arguement but nvidia has more software and ai technologies which are incomparable to amd's. If you want to stay on team green, then this is the card
at the end of the day i still go with nvidia
Same, i don't have the trust for amd that i have for nvidia, plus the others benefits that we don't talk about for nvidia.
im happy with my 8gb rx 580 lol
Yeah that's even better for price to performance
I have upgraded but I still have my Rx570 😅 just gonna keep it for the apocalypse. It's survived this long, same with my og elite Xbox 360. It's just preloaded with banger games 😂
People didn't listen since it's not the third most popular, but now the most popular card on Steam hardware survey.
I gave AMD 3 chances on video cards, and sadly the driver issues ruined team red for me at least for gpus, I still rock my ryzen cpus but gonna be nvidia all the way for me from now on
And thats only one of the things that many "Tech" youtubers ignore when blanket recommending GPUs
@@AlpineTheHuskyThis dude literally builds hundreds of PCs for his business. If he doesn’t find them an issue, I don’t think it’s an issue for the vast majority of cases. Same with most other tech RUclipsrs.
@@Polymath2B If a sponsored tech youtuber doesnt find issues then either its because he is sponsored or has a bias like basically every human being. I for one build computers for companies and for my own sanity only use Nvidia Cards for mid-higher end customers and intel CPUs for high uptime requirements. AMD or Intel CPUs if certain aspects are needed like Intel Accelerators or High AMD core count and density and cache. AMD cards I usually reserve for Applications requiring many displays at a low price like for Mcdonalds or video walls. Most of my private customers are either people who need office PCs or Gaming PCs. Office PCs for higher end users I switched to AMD APUs for lower end "Dad" like office PCs I go with Intel because of reliability and stability. Gaming PCs I take what the user demands as most "Gamer" customers come in saying "I have XYZ Budget and want AMD/Intel CPU and want a AMD/NVIDIA GPU". Then I try to recommend based on what fits and then have to readjust because its rare that someone who wants AMD will accept Nvidia or someone who wants Nvidia to accept AMD and god forbid I recommend Intel to anyone but for content creation servers
we don’t want amd, we want Ray tracing, and all the nvidia stuff💚
amd has ray tracing too lol
That's not everyone pal
Fan boy 😂
@@aru5188 mh no?
I can say it from experience, this card can play anything in 1080. One of the best purchases of my life.
I got this gpu at Christmas and it's great I'm glad it's getting more recognition
The problem is in different countries stuff is priced different
Here in my country an rtx 4060 (the worst price to performance gpu)
Is actually one of the best in my place because of the price range it is.
Idk if this happened because of the negative response
And it has frame gen (which is obviously not something that i should say but its still a nice addon)
And its still a nice upgrade from gtx 1650
I would but the way that Nvidia updates and releases their new drivers is much more simpler instead of having to search hours for every time u have to update ur graphics driver
It’s not that hard to click the ‘look for updates’ button in the AMD software, is it?
Everyone I’ve ever known in my life has had the same consistent issues with AMD cards. Nvidia ones are few are far between, if any (from my experience).
i have a 3060 12gb model thats its stock clock is faster than a 3070. and its not a bad card brand new for $300 plus with small side features that i need like nvidia broadcast literally make my life 1000 times better, best money you can spend on a budget card. every time i had a amd product it takes them like 3 months to even patch out a bad driver that doesnt let you use a card or it just dies after a year of use
comparing mine to the 6650xt mine whoops its ass for like 40 bucks more plus the drivers wont be bad :3
also its not over paying its paying the extra money knowing the computer will last a few more years than the amd e-waste comparison
mine will be in an all in one gaming computer, all i care about is 120 fps in fortnite and a clean setup.
you guys are lucky where i live the 6650xt starts at €
350 and are mostly €
400 with asrock models at €583
Sent two amd cards back a few days ago. Two different pc one with windows 10, one new build will widows 11. Both crashed constantly. Put a 1660 super in no problems, put my rx 580 in no issues. 7000 series card driver issue are real.
rtx also has the dlss suppoer, which boost ur fps by a lot with minor issues in detail, and also in my area costs around 272, so its a better deeal with the 12gb vram
In the UK a 6650xt is a 8gb card for £230 and a 3060 12gb is £264 both brand new but you could probably get them cheaper used
The 6600xt and the 6650xt are in the 300$ price range here in PH 😭
wish i had discovered Zach before i got my Rtx 3060. Im really happy with it bc i got the 12gb model for 300
I got a 3060 for 250 on tax free weekend. The only reason I went with Nvidia over amd is cause blender is built for Nvidia and amd still has render issues on it
I’m probably going to go for a budget 3060 build. Amd FSR combined with dlss would be pretty nice for me considering my parents don’t have a good financial situation and the 3060 is cheaper for me in the state I live in. I would be getting a massive increase in fps considering I play games with around 5-10 fps with 15 at most on some cheap hp laptop I got years ago connected to a 240hz spectre monitor because I thought I could play on a monitor by itself☠️ I was going to go with a budget 4060 build but I’ve learned my lesson now🌚
no bro i dont want stuttering problem.
It all depends on what you want to use it for. If you want to run AI apps like Stable Diffusion, you needs CUDA support which is only provided with an NVIDIA card.
just bought an rx6650xt earlier today for £240 to start off my new pc build
You're surely right but i've got lucky buying, last week, a used ASUS 3060 in very good condition, for 180 euros, and in extra , for the incoming games, 12 gb vram will surely be useful :)
Around where I live, these two cost the same so yeah I’m getting the 3060 (I’m not saying amd cards suck I’m just more familiar with nvidia)
That is really good advice because I am helping a friends brother, but are still in the part-pickingphase and actually the rx 6650 got a lot of backlash so when I looked it up I found less complaints about the 6650 and the 3060, which I why I was going to ho with the 6650
I've had this card since it was new. It's great, but the coils have been making noise since they were new.
My 3060 12Gb was expensive because I bought it during the 'scarcity' issues. No issues just annoyed the same card is 300 now.
It’s £240 brand new on Amazon fuck PC they all make your shit go to shit anyway
I got a 6600 xt and this thing is crazy, runs assetto corsa max graphics at 200-300 fps
If only as many people that say used amd really did. Tell the marketing team to fix that
Sort of hilarious how where i'm from most components drops by price to performance and the 3060 vs 6650 is no different in terms of price.
Currently
At my place, Rx6650XT (8GB) and RTX3060 (12GB) are at the same price right now at $300.
So i am considering Nvidia.
My only goal is to play Doom eternal
So it's been 5 months,
I bought an MSI 3060 12gb for $270
Instead of MSI 6650xt @ $335
Research a lot more next time, if you buy the first gpu you see then you're wasting lots of money
@@mastertang4200if it's only for gaming then 6650xt is best choice but if it's for gaming, editing, 3d sculp, stable defusion etc then 3060 is the best choice.
I have a rx 5700 in my PC and yes it has some driver issues even after 4 years of owning it. But those issues rarely happen. It doesn't ruin my games constantly and completely. In some games driver timeouts happen rarely or never. In some games more often. I play mostly pirated games but also from steam and epic too. So the problem could be more from the pirated games then from the Amd driver.
Getting a nvidia gpu or a amd gpu honestly depends on what games you play.
We are not frustrated. Let us keep our AMD GPUs cheap.
RTX 3060 is 280 rn, RX 6650 is 240 rn. Since I plan on recording and potential blender stuff the RTX 3060 is an easy choice
The thing is if more people buy it the price of it will go up ad the price of the 3060 will down. Making the 3060 a better price to proformancs gpu
KEEP in mind that the 6650 XT only has 8 PCIe Lanes on the 4.0 x16 connection, so If your MB has a PCIe 3.0 x16 graphics slot or lower it will make a difference with the 3060 who has 16 PCIe Lanes
I will stay powerful and proud until the day my GTX 1060 decides to give up on the world
I hate when people try to loop their videos to get more retention
I'm not really an 8GB vram person I like gpus with 12gb vram or more but I'm not saying the 6650 xt is bad people have their opinions and I respect that but this is my opinion
Yeah but nobody ever talks about your monitor, if you have freesync monitor, go with amd and gsync nvidia. If you choose opposite you get lots of problems and not so smooth framerate.
Not everyone plays games when they are at work. People need a GPU that can be helpful for content creation, CGI artist and also give a decent frame rate in games while not being heater in summer time. Not everyone lives in a cold place. Temp's matters for laptop users.
I bought my 3060 in 2022
Was about £130 back den
Now it's like 250
Crazy how much the prices go up in a few years
The xfx line of the 6000 series is just nice. Got a 6800 and it stays silent. Cooling is just good
I got the MSI 6650 XT Gaming X and its a beautiful gpu with rgb and amazing performance! My cpu is the ryzen 5 5600 and it works also very fast and i have no bottleneck
By the way, AMD drivers are the best..
They may have issues on occasion during the launch of a game, but AMD is on top of it, creating way bigger performance jumps with all their driver updates, and they support their cards so much longer than Nvidia.
I say this as the owner of a 3090 in my desktop and a 6600 in my laptop.
I know for a fact, that my 6600 will be supported long after the 3090 loses nvidia's blessing😂
Also, the 6600 in my laptop is so much smoother than the 3060 laptop- which wasn't the case when they came out, but thanks to driver updates and time, amd made it spank 3060 laptop, and it's got 8 gigs of vram😎
3060’s are good if you find them used but brand new you can find a 6750 xt for that price and you can keep the 12gb of vram
You can get a 3060 12gb for 300
The 3060 especially sucks when you (me) paid $900 for one when gpu prices where horrible 😔