Rewatching this even though I own the full ARO, ouch, the hate in the comments! Dudes if you can’t afford it, just wait for sales (which happen very often with SA) or let it go! I mean, this is so deeply sampled, offers a lot of legatos, a lot of microphones, all of them are usable and the mix / record is amazing! This is the first library that I literally just need 1 bell EQ to get the sound that I want! the mix is so good… Percs are the same. very dynamic too. Can´t wait for the Abbey Road Brass and WoodWinds ! hope we'll get that must-have woodwinds library that we are all waiting for, which is, thanks to SA, Luke and Simon Rhodes, very likely to happen. Can´t wait. I guess it will also "deserve"😂 a Blakus video. Cheers 🎉
@@dpetrov32 Competitions seem to be left apart btw, Think it was Christian Henson that was working on it, bcs it doesn’t happen since he was canceled. Was a good opportunity and exercise tho.
For clarity, I am in a fortunate position where I receive most libraries for free these days as I tend to help devs test things, but that doesn't mean I do videos on all of them, in fact mostly I don't. I only show products that I really love on this channel. Spitfire (or any other dev) has not paid me for any walkthrough videos, and I made this video because I wanted to. Thanks, all!
Very useful to hear your perspective. . I can see there are some complaints below, but this recording seems phenomenal - the engineer gets my respect. I bought the violin and cello pro tonight while watching the walkthroughs, including yours. It's not perfect but neither is Pacific Ensemble Strings. All these efforts are worthwhile and I'm thankful these particular sounds were attractive enough for someone to achieve. Thank you for your work in this industry! BTW, percussion is out now. I don't think they included the release but the close mic on percussion is pretty tight on the surface - probably different than recording a string instrument.
Sounds lovely. It'd be great to have the independant vib control. I'm playing along with Pacific Violins and love them too. It would be great to hear a piece played with Spitfire V1 and then Pacific to see how they compare (hint hint)
blakus what do you think about using the TEControl USB MIDI Breath Controller for strings, brasses, etc.? I am tempted to buy it after having seen it in action on some VST orchestra recordings. 💸
Symphonic strings is only going up to C# for me, so jealous seeing that this goes up to E because I have a project where I need to hit these high E's on first violin
Btw @blakus you should have a written disclaimer in the description about if Spitfire either paid you for making this walkthrough or if they offered you the library for free (seems to be the case) or both. There should be total transparency about this when you're reviewing or giving your thoughts about a product, by law even.
True! For clarity, I am in a fortunate position where I receive most libraries for free these days as I tend to help devs test things, but that doesn't mean I do videos on all of them, in fact mostly I don't. I only show products that I really love on this channel. Spitfire has not paid me, and I made this video because I wanted to. Hope that clears this up.
Hi blakus, would you mind if I ask how you make a note/chord hold infinitely (kontakt latch mode maybe?) on one instrument while you play another instrument ? I've been looking for this for quite some time and still can't understand :( Thank you very much for the walkthrough anyway !
I am probably really late answering this but maybe it helps you or someone else in the future: 1. Play a chord with the sustain pedal pressed down. 2. Keep the sustain pedal pressed down, release the keys, and switch to a different track. - If necessary, arm the new track by ensuring its record button is red (disable recording on the previous track). 3. Release the sustain pedal and begin playing on the new track. When switching back to the original track: - Press and release the sustain pedal as needed to stop or change chords.
Nice short notes, nice low dynamics sustains but most of the legato transitions and the overall expressiveness suck, very synthy. It could certainly be useful as a layer for the room but will require a LOT of work and layers for a realistic result. Another issue : €319.00 for the first violins only... (The music intro at 0:34 is great).
Great review Blake! :) Do you usually add some convolution reverb to blend the Abbey Road libraries with other in your template, or do you just send everything a little bit into your Bricasti unit? :)
In a world oversaturated with Strings libraries Spitfire comes out with a library containing only the violin section and asks for 340$ (with intro price). Even after ending support for those who bought the original Abbey Road library. Insane! And people still promote the company and act like nothing happened. No wonder they'll keep doing shady business and marketing.
The abbey road library that you have and this one are two completely separate entities, Spitfire had been pretty clear about that from the start. The one you're talking about is "AR1 Foundations", a completed standalone library. This violin section is part of the "AR1 Modular orchestra" (same line as the Percussion that was released earlier). The "support" you're referring to in regards to the library that you're talking about, Foundations , is yet another product line called "AR1 Scoring Selections". This is in fact not support at all, but another standalone product line. They were pretty clear about this from the start. So there's no shady business here, you've just misunderstood the somewhat confusing product lines that all share a recording space.
If you look at the initial cost of the Core version, it's very similar per player as the Scoring Selections they previously released. There are roughly 4-5 times more players.
why even bother offer a cheaper cut down version of a pro-aimed/priced library? I love the sound and glad someone made an abbey road strings/orchestral library. somewhere in thier marketing and company plan they miss the mark. still waiting for the studio strings pro mics to be fixed. they are just poorly run when it comes to product control
Sounds nice, but in my opinion it doesn't sound any better than half a dozen other string libraries. And $359 for a single purpose library? This is clearly aimed at pro users who have money to burn (if they haven't gotten it for free).
Shouldn't be about money but about principle. This company made it clear that they would be updating past libraries with legatos and they didn't. And now they're selling what they promised as a different , overpriced, library. Even the "pros" shouldn't be condoning this behavior.
I’ll Try! 😁💗 I Used Logic Pro To Make It sounded Like Raymond Fabi And John Towner Williams's Orchestra That It Sounded Like In 1995 Raymond Fabi's Orchestra From Kids Like You (Miss Cathie The Current Host Cathie Dorsch), Are You Afraid Of The Dark And Even More! It's Just Amazing That Simon Rhodes Music Recordist And Music Mixer Will Do Exactly As He Wanted To. Raymond Fabi And John Towner Williams, Made It Look Outstanding And Hottest And Masterpiece That They All Know Today that I Just Wanted To Replicate That Sound And Feeling For The Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone Movie. And Uhh.. I Think They Did A Great Job! 😁❤🔥❤🔥💗❤🔥
Screw SA! This is a big hit in the face of all customers who bought AR1 hoping to get legato strings! We have been fooled AGAIN and AGAIN by SA! Man, I start to hate their marketing promises.
They promised V1 for Abbey Road One? Surely if they promised anything they would have promised high strings legato (v1+v2 in octaves)? Where/when did they promise what you are saying they promised?
@@TomMAF4 , they promised legatos for AB1. They never gave us the string legatos and now they are offering it her for a much higher price. It was stated on their website and in their videos.
@@danieldecker2711 Well you can't really say that these are the legatos they would have done for abbey road one as these are just V1 and they are significantly more detailed than would make sense for a scetching library. I do agree that those legatos would have really incresed the value of that library and seems silly they didn't. I remember thinking they had promised them at the time at the time but I feel like people were saying that they hadn't, thus I'd love specific sources for that promise as if they sold a product on the basis of an update that never came that's a serious faux par!
In my opinion legato sounds fake. Somehow Spitfire legato patches where much better at the begining of their road ( first Albions, Sable *Chamber Strings etc. ). I don't know why. And it seems like they think it's other way around. Funny.
I’m disappointed … to be honest, this is a bit of a fan boy vid….you didn’t discuss the price! At $450 for just first violin, who on earth is this product for?!
It’s definitely not cheap! You’ll notice I don’t really discuss prices of products, marketing approaches, company drama etc in any of my videos. I have only one thing I’m interested in discussing/sharing, and that is the quality of samples. There are plenty of channels that offer good reviews that take all other aspects of products into consideration though!
![Spitfire's Abbey Road Strings - [SCORING and REVIEW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GGJ98h04GYI/mqdefault.jpg)
![Spitfire's Abbey Road Strings - [SCORING and REVIEW]](/img/tr.png)
Rewatching this even though I own the full ARO, ouch, the hate in the comments! Dudes if you can’t afford it, just wait for sales (which happen very often with SA) or let it go! I mean, this is so deeply sampled, offers a lot of legatos, a lot of microphones, all of them are usable and the mix / record is amazing! This is the first library that I literally just need 1 bell EQ to get the sound that I want! the mix is so good…
Percs are the same. very dynamic too. Can´t wait for the Abbey Road Brass and WoodWinds ! hope we'll get that must-have woodwinds library that we are all waiting for, which is, thanks to SA, Luke and Simon Rhodes, very likely to happen. Can´t wait. I guess it will also "deserve"😂 a Blakus video. Cheers 🎉
keep doing the competitions homie, spitfire will notice you soon im sure
@@dpetrov32 Competitions seem to be left apart btw, Think it was Christian Henson that was working on it, bcs it doesn’t happen since he was canceled. Was a good opportunity and exercise tho.
For clarity, I am in a fortunate position where I receive most libraries for free these days as I tend to help devs test things, but that doesn't mean I do videos on all of them, in fact mostly I don't. I only show products that I really love on this channel. Spitfire (or any other dev) has not paid me for any walkthrough videos, and I made this video because I wanted to. Thanks, all!
Glad we could make it here for our annual blakus video. 😂 See you next year, king
So true. 😂
just uploaded another one. get rekt m8. :D :D
@@Blakus 🤯
The room is incredible. These different types of legato will be so useful. Thanks for the walkthrough Blakus
Even after all these years cinematic studio strings is still the best all around strings library out there.
Pacific does give it a run for it's money though
Hmm dunno, we have Pacific now
I am new to the Cinematic Studio Series.
But i already loved it.
Only the solo strings are bit quiet
Just the fact that you're doing a walkthrough for this tells me it's great...
Very nice presentation of this library. It's expensive but it's beautiful. I am convinced. THANKS !
Very useful to hear your perspective. . I can see there are some complaints below, but this recording seems phenomenal - the engineer gets my respect. I bought the violin and cello pro tonight while watching the walkthroughs, including yours. It's not perfect but neither is Pacific Ensemble Strings. All these efforts are worthwhile and I'm thankful these particular sounds were attractive enough for someone to achieve. Thank you for your work in this industry! BTW, percussion is out now. I don't think they included the release but the close mic on percussion is pretty tight on the surface - probably different than recording a string instrument.
Sounds lovely. It'd be great to have the independant vib control. I'm playing along with Pacific Violins and love them too. It would be great to hear a piece played with Spitfire V1 and then Pacific to see how they compare (hint hint)
OMG a rare Blakus upload!!! This is gonna be great! 😎
Thanks as always for such a great video!! Wondering if you think this will go well with Pacific?
blakus what do you think about using the TEControl USB MIDI Breath Controller for strings, brasses, etc.?
I am tempted to buy it after having seen it in action on some VST orchestra recordings. 💸
Gosh in here and with @Spitfire Audio 👍🏻
This or Berlin?!?! ❤
Soooo good. Thanks Blake.
Symphonic strings is only going up to C# for me, so jealous seeing that this goes up to E because I have a project where I need to hit these high E's on first violin
Incredible, now, my fear is when they'll launch 2nd Violin, we get 10% of the articulations, two t-bones and coughing pizz.
He's not dead!
Is there rebowing in this library?
Not yet but the main dev said the samples are there and it's only a matter of implementing said recordings, so probably in a future update
Btw @blakus you should have a written disclaimer in the description about if Spitfire either paid you for making this walkthrough or if they offered you the library for free (seems to be the case) or both. There should be total transparency about this when you're reviewing or giving your thoughts about a product, by law even.
Yeh, I have to agree with this. Preferable say it at the beginning of the video too
True! For clarity, I am in a fortunate position where I receive most libraries for free these days as I tend to help devs test things, but that doesn't mean I do videos on all of them, in fact mostly I don't. I only show products that I really love on this channel. Spitfire has not paid me, and I made this video because I wanted to. Hope that clears this up.
Hi blakus, would you mind if I ask how you make a note/chord hold infinitely (kontakt latch mode maybe?) on one instrument while you play another instrument ?
I've been looking for this for quite some time and still can't understand :(
Thank you very much for the walkthrough anyway !
I am probably really late answering this but maybe it helps you or someone else in the future:
1. Play a chord with the sustain pedal pressed down.
2. Keep the sustain pedal pressed down, release the keys, and switch to a different track.
- If necessary, arm the new track by ensuring its record button is red (disable recording on the previous track).
3. Release the sustain pedal and begin playing on the new track.
When switching back to the original track:
- Press and release the sustain pedal as needed to stop or change chords.
@@DamDominiciMusic Hey, thank you very much for taking the time to answer. Actually, I figured this out by accident a few months ago haha
Take care !
Totally agree about re assigning vibrato depth to mod wheel. I remember EW Hollywood strings also had this built in. Makes a lot of sense
It’s the one reason why sometimes I still grab for EW Hollywood strings. It’s an amazing feature I wish others’ had.
It just sucks when you want consistent vibrato and expression controls
Awesome!
G Day everyone !
Nice short notes, nice low dynamics sustains but most of the legato transitions and the overall expressiveness suck, very synthy. It could certainly be useful as a layer for the room but will require a LOT of work and layers for a realistic result. Another issue : €319.00 for the first violins only... (The music intro at 0:34 is great).
The music in the intro was made with Pacific Strings though; not with any Abbey Road strings.
@@gryd3461 I know
Yep, I found this too. Somehow it was even worse in the official walkthrough. It's a shame because the room + sampling depth is pretty neat.
Great review Blake! :) Do you usually add some convolution reverb to blend the Abbey Road libraries with other in your template, or do you just send everything a little bit into your Bricasti unit? :)
Kinda mad you played "Flying" from E.T. - I was gonna do that on my channel, I even prepared a full mockup 👀
Phone Home yo😊
So? There are hundreds of Williams mockups on youtube, not only Blakus', don't let that be an excuse for not putting your work out there 😉
In a world oversaturated with Strings libraries Spitfire comes out with a library containing only the violin section and asks for 340$ (with intro price). Even after ending support for those who bought the original Abbey Road library. Insane!
And people still promote the company and act like nothing happened. No wonder they'll keep doing shady business and marketing.
15:40 to 15:50 tho
The abbey road library that you have and this one are two completely separate entities, Spitfire had been pretty clear about that from the start. The one you're talking about is "AR1 Foundations", a completed standalone library. This violin section is part of the "AR1 Modular orchestra" (same line as the Percussion that was released earlier). The "support" you're referring to in regards to the library that you're talking about, Foundations , is yet another product line called "AR1 Scoring Selections". This is in fact not support at all, but another standalone product line. They were pretty clear about this from the start. So there's no shady business here, you've just misunderstood the somewhat confusing product lines that all share a recording space.
If you look at the initial cost of the Core version, it's very similar per player as the Scoring Selections they previously released. There are roughly 4-5 times more players.
why even bother offer a cheaper cut down version of a pro-aimed/priced library? I love the sound and glad someone made an abbey road strings/orchestral library. somewhere in thier marketing and company plan they miss the mark. still waiting for the studio strings pro mics to be fixed. they are just poorly run when it comes to product control
Sounds nice, but in my opinion it doesn't sound any better than half a dozen other string libraries. And $359 for a single purpose library? This is clearly aimed at pro users who have money to burn (if they haven't gotten it for free).
Shouldn't be about money but about principle. This company made it clear that they would be updating past libraries with legatos and they didn't. And now they're selling what they promised as a different , overpriced, library.
Even the "pros" shouldn't be condoning this behavior.
I’ll Try! 😁💗 I Used Logic Pro To Make It sounded Like Raymond Fabi And John Towner Williams's Orchestra That It Sounded Like In 1995 Raymond Fabi's Orchestra From Kids Like You (Miss Cathie The Current Host Cathie Dorsch), Are You Afraid Of The Dark And Even More! It's Just Amazing That Simon Rhodes Music Recordist And Music Mixer Will Do Exactly As He Wanted To. Raymond Fabi And John Towner Williams, Made It Look Outstanding And Hottest And Masterpiece That They All Know Today that I Just Wanted To Replicate That Sound And Feeling For The Harry Potter And The Sorcerer's Stone Movie. And Uhh.. I Think They Did A Great Job! 😁❤🔥❤🔥💗❤🔥
Screw SA! This is a big hit in the face of all customers who bought AR1 hoping to get legato strings! We have been fooled AGAIN and AGAIN by SA! Man, I start to hate their marketing promises.
Kindly show me where they promised legato strings as part of Orchestral Foundations?
So it’s you… 😂
Abbey Road doesn't offer 1st Violins, only High Strings!!
Theses are the legatos Spitfire promised for Abbey Road One. Instead, they are releasing them separately at a much higher price. Not cool, spitfire!
They promised V1 for Abbey Road One? Surely if they promised anything they would have promised high strings legato (v1+v2 in octaves)? Where/when did they promise what you are saying they promised?
@@TomMAF4 , they promised legatos for AB1. They never gave us the string legatos and now they are offering it her for a much higher price. It was stated on their website and in their videos.
@@danieldecker2711 Well you can't really say that these are the legatos they would have done for abbey road one as these are just V1 and they are significantly more detailed than would make sense for a scetching library. I do agree that those legatos would have really incresed the value of that library and seems silly they didn't.
I remember thinking they had promised them at the time at the time but I feel like people were saying that they hadn't, thus I'd love specific sources for that promise as if they sold a product on the basis of an update that never came that's a serious faux par!
i've got a few spitfire products. unimpressed. especially the high prices. j.
@@TomMAF4exactly. AR1F violins would have been barebones compared to this. Would have been limited range and doubled at 8ve.
Hahahaha spitfire releases big ting.... typing: blakus.....
In my opinion legato sounds fake. Somehow Spitfire legato patches where much better at the begining of their road ( first Albions, Sable *Chamber Strings etc. ). I don't know why. And it seems like they think it's other way around. Funny.
maybe you should not be listening on your phone. 🤦🏻♂
Why? What difference does it make? Its a tool to make music, which eventually people will listen on phone, etc.
I’m disappointed … to be honest, this is a bit of a fan boy vid….you didn’t discuss the price! At $450 for just first violin, who on earth is this product for?!
It’s definitely not cheap! You’ll notice I don’t really discuss prices of products, marketing approaches, company drama etc in any of my videos. I have only one thing I’m interested in discussing/sharing, and that is the quality of samples. There are plenty of channels that offer good reviews that take all other aspects of products into consideration though!
musescore 4 better
2:23 sounds bloody awful. 400 bucks for that, and only the 1st fiddles.
c'est pas honnête de faire de la pub, quand on est sponsorisé pas spitfire