Microsoft Blocks Customization Apps in Windows 11 Version 24H2
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Microsoft Blocks Customization Apps in Windows 11 Version 24H2
Its seems Windows 11 24H2 has a new file called appraiser.sdb that could theoretically block you from getting to Windows 11 version 24H2 upgrade. Its can also cause applications not to work like StartAllBack and ExplorerPatcher and many more.
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I would say that this is a HUGE anti trust and anti competition law suite waiting to happen. Microsoft could be waling on VERY shakey ground.
That was my first thought too.
Especially if they start adding things like, Open Office to the blocked list...
Whose system is it though? We're not talking about applications, as in Open Office. We are talking about the user interface. Perhaps Microsoft think it's theirs anyway, so they should be able to decide how it works. It sucks though. I don't like how the default Win 11 taskbar icons just combine multiple processes. It's nice to be able to turn that off so that you see separate windows.
@@organisten I have never understood the claim that pinned apps and previews make is 'easier to see exactly what's running'. It's also slower than just clicking on the window you want.
@@organistenIt is their OS.They can & do remove whatever they want.
Microsoft is also blocking third party apps that simplify the process of setting a browser as your default. They're not blocking users from chaning it manually via the settings just just in the registry and other ways. they claim the software being blocked by a driver that was added back in windows 8 to mitigate a vulnerabilty. pretty sure we will see a noticable decline in market share as well as a lull in people upgrading to windows 11.
I tried Windows 11 before all this and it was tacky. Back to Windows 10...
tacky? Oh as if the win 10 interface doesn't look tacky. win 10 interface looks like it was a collage made by a 6th grader using elmers glue and cheap scissors. @@philipfirks7755
amen!
@@philipfirks7755 Linux is the only option.
Everyone who hates the systematic removal of classic registry tweaks and customisation features in general for Windows 11 please voice your distain on Microsoft's Feedback Hub. The metrics need to show that their userbase has lost faith the people in charge of delivering the product's functionality and that this should be being handled by people who actually care about what we think of the product.
You do know that they do not even pay any attention to the Feedback Hub at all right and it's a let some steam off venting site.
Sure, but the bottom line is : Who's Microsoft userbase, or rather the "profitable" one ? People ? Hell no ! Businesses. They are the real cashcow.Nothing will change until they stop giving money to MS.
It is worth a try, but they should already know this by looking at the number of win 10 vs win11 users. And they know it, that is the reason why they dare to force paid updates on Win10 users who don't want to switch to Win11.
@@gatorrade1680 Only a few people are going to bite on paid updates and didn't they try this with Windows 7 if I am not mistaken and that failed. I know if I was on 10 and EOL came and I still needed 10 for things it would be in a Virtual Machine afterwards in a Linux Distro in a Container.
@@kevinsteinman8967 Let's hope that only few people bite. I remember paid updates only for enterprise users and that is kind of fair, but not for regular pc users.
Went to Linux Mint a while back. I decided I'm not going to fight with any software vendor. They can piss off.
I don't quite understand did you end up coming back to Windows because you encountered struggles in Linux trying to get work and what you thought you had to get working or where they're misunderstandings or are you happy and still living happily in the Linux world and you mean you're not going to fight with proprietary software vendors who software doesn't work in the Linux world and you found good enough alternatives
the mint team is a software vendor too yk, they just don't make stupid decisions like microsoft or canonical
@@motoryzen I did the same move to Mint and I am not going back to Win.
Windows only programs that are a must have can be run in Wine, Bottles, Containers or a VM if needed..
@@motoryzen Yes, sir! this is done because i don't agree with microsoft theft policy
That is the way.
Windows is getting worse and worse in ways
Not sure what they are playing at
Even XP was better then anything that came after out of it.
@@silentios7336 Very true.
Something new nearly every day and as a 85 year old computer idiot knowing very little what any of it means, being on my computer is getting more stressful and aggravating than useful or fun. New stuff that I have absolutely no idea what it is for or how to install it or use it. I don't even know what this CoPilot thing is. Why make it so complicated? I wish I had never bought this Windows 11 computer, never had this uncertainty and headaches on my old computer with Windows 10.
@@loisaustin6200 There are 3rd party things I've used in the past that remove the junk like CoPilot. Just depending on what it is don't remove too much or you may run into issues down the road. It'll help out a lot overall.
Mostly they go by a title like "Windows 10/11 debloater"
'k, so what happens when they start disallowing packages like OpenOffice or other alternatives to M$' stuff?
I can't speak for everyone but it will be Linux for me. Any Windows installation will be in a VM.
@@byronknight4449 Exactly what I'm going to start looking into. At this point, the only reason I have for running Windows is gaming - and even that's starting to wane lately. We'll just have to see how things shake out.
If they start doing that they're no better than Apple in my opinion
@@byronknight4449 Yes, installing in VirtualBox is the way to go with it. You can then switch off its internet access any time you are not intending to go onto the internet.
I certainly would never use Windows for something like banking.
I would hope that it would mean a anti-trust lawsuit from the Government.
Yes, On my work machine I run Win-10 with one of the "classic shell" things.
I think the machine is locked against the installation of Win-11 but that will only keep my machine usable for a while.
This doesn't apply to my home machine because I upgraded to Linux Mint on it.
I installed Blend OS on my 2TB external SSD drive
@@mbob-cm7cx I have a Linux Mint on a 1TB external hard drive. It works quite well. I have run it on a laptop and a desktop so the same "computer" used two different sets of hardware.
Ya windows 11 might be my last time on windows. I'll move to a Linux distro in the future.
Welcome to Zorin OS
Or welcome to Linux Mint or Linux Mint Debian Edition
Or Kubuntu or any other distro that is considered user friendly. KDE Plasma, XFCE and Cinnamon are all great.
@@PolarCheeseYes Windows like only. Gnome is good too 😅 It's the first i recommend not because of Apple like but because it's really easy and great to use everyday. KDE in second because of its power (KDE 6❤) Cinnamon...well...but no...xfce is good for a potato pc not for productivity.
Linux Mint
MX Linux
Tuxedo OS
My top picks and not necessarily in that order.
This will make people block updates and that can lead to vulnerabilities in Microsofts devices like there wasn't vulnerabilities already.💯
The Windows update engine lives inside the windows kernel in which no one but Microsoft operating system software developers have editing access to. So you're not blocking Jack crap you may can postpone it but in the end you're not blocking anything. The only way you can combat my statement is if that computer never touches an internet connection ever again for a long enough period of time
@@motoryzen Linux does not update without your knowledge. That was enough for me to switch. No more AMD driver problems after that.
@@motoryzen On Win 10 I've been using Winaero Tweaker for years and it's been blocking them the entire time. Once in a while I have to de-activate it to install something from the Microsoft Store and that's when the updates slip through.
I can’t get updates from windows anyway after my last update
@@motoryzen If you install a deprecated version like win 10 20h2 or 21h1 you will not receive updates xD
They can keep 24H4. I'll just keep using what I have, Windows 11 without Cortana and Edge. Heck I'm only using Windows for gaming, nothing else. I use Linux Mint 21.2 Xfce edition as my daily drive for emails, RUclips, video rendering etc. I went out and bought all the parts I needed to build a gaming machine. Stuck Windows 10 on it, then upgraded to Windows 11. Got a majority of the telemetry to shut up. Bought brand new PC parts for my Linux only PC, which is up the road being built by matey up the shop. My eyesight has worsened, cannot see the intricate workings of PC parts anymore. Whatever you do in life? Don't get old if you can help it? Stay young. Gravity gets us all in the end though.
im planning a dual boot for my next pc when get round to building it, Currently working on a desk for a full setup change. Haven't really spent much time in Linux distros but spend alot of time in linux terminals for work. Will be an experience and plenty time to look around at the distros.
Seems like Windows is starting to look more like Malware than an OS.
more people are going to start using Linux, I recommend Linux Mint
How is it for gaming ? Mainly Steam.
@@gcmanuel85x I have seen reports of it being fine.
I can see the headlines now!
"The end of the line for MS Windows. Microsofts Windows 11 Market Share for Operating Systems took a nose dive today after millions of users around the world woke up to find Microsoft had stoped hundreds of Windows designed programms from working on their newley released Windows 24H2. Analcysts say "Billions will continue to Use Windws 10 even though it is no longer supported with many more switching to Linux. We don't expect Microsoft being in business come 2025. ".
I don’t think so, most people just don’t care…😢
They make more money from other ventures these days than an OS. Should tell you where they're priorities lie.
@@peterschmidt9942Exactly. They stopped caring a long time ago. Wouldn't be surprised if they start dustributing Windows as a cloud-based service.
@@joeschmoe3815 I have no doubt that will be on the cards in some form or another. Probably why they're stripping back features and want you constantly connected to the internet.
In some respects I don't find a cloud based Windows a bad idea. As I predominantly use Linux, having a VM of Windows is perfect for most things I want to do in Windows only. Except I find interaction between VM and real hardware the problem.
This can be avoided by purchasing a pro key and accessing the registry keys folder to prevent updates not involving security correct?
You released a video on that covering Windows 10 and 11 on how to stop updates say past 20H2 or whatever version people prefer.
And you were yet another complacent ignoramus who refuses to see the the water for the ocean. No you don't reward bad behavior by sending money to the company who is responsible for causing the problems to begin with.
Everyone thinks they're a leet haxor computer genius because they're subscribed to LTT or something.
Comment sections like this demonstrate that their grandmas have more insight into Windows configuration than they do.
TranslucentTB is still in the Microsoft Store right now, so that may not be affected. It's possible that the makers of these tweakers may develop versions that can run on 24H2. Very much a case of wait and see I suppose....
Because TranslucentTB isn't virus-like in its operation like StartAllBack and the like.
That file is present on windows 10 since 19h1 which contains latest compatibility and workaround patches that is applied to offline OS image serviced via dism. Explorer patch worked well with initial w11 and with later version there is some side effects such as missing shell icons, missing texts etc then i switched to default inferior start menu. That appraiser file has whitelisted and blacklisted rules. It's monthly updated via CU.
Everybody in America start a case with FTC against Microsoft. For people like Britec in England, and those in your respective countries being the hammer down
something needs to be done
Started migrating to Debian yesterday. So far, everything looks good, and my workflow is not hampered. Nowadays, when most software is expansive SaS and Windows is gradually transforming from OS to SOS (spyware operating system) this seems like a logical path.
Yaass! Welcome to Debian, my fellow Bookworm!
@@davidlandry3487 Thank you. Finished migrating. The greatest OS I have ever used (and I had used both Windows and MacOS).
@@BP-Rulesjust remember, Linux actually acknowledges that it IS YOUR COMPUTER. You can do anything you want, that includes breaking things. Absolute freedom. Just be careful in the beginning until you have more knowledge.
I don't mean this in a condescending way. I just read a lot of comments were this actually happened.
Edit: PS: welcome to Linux. I hope you enjoy the ride! 🤙
Some say this's just happening with the beta/pre-release (prolly to reduce error reports caused by these tools), but in case that MS is indeed blocking 3rd-party customization for good, I'll stick with 23H2. 3rd-party customization is the reason why I considered using Windows 10+ to begin with.
And to those suggesting Linux, I've been using it since the 2000s, and sadly switching for good is not an option yet.
Surely this wouldnt ever lead to people foregoing all future updates and having insecure systems! Good job MicroShaft!
Wow, Microsoft started forcing users to accept greedily collecting their data.
Also if we look at the Linux community they are separated into different versions and limited apps some of which useful and other junk.
Thanks mate I have no doubt that you are the best content creator on RUclips talking about our copy of microjunk OS. Keep up👍🏻
Erm, there is masses of highly functional apps in Linux. I run my business on 100% Linux software and I do a vast range of tasks including video editing. There is also vastly more choice in the world of Linux apps so if one tools does not quite work they way you want there is usually a couple more options.
Apple is increasingly "One way to do things and often no way at all"
And Windows is following Apple.
I will grant that if you need specialized tools for work - things like requiring Adobe products or say, super specialized software for oil drilling or pathology - it's Windows or nothing. But that's, like 3% of the world's population.
Thanks for the heads up Brian. I've already had problems with windows updates breaking things. This one looks painful for the system modders. 😩
Hi Brian hope all is well sir. Haven’t talked since back in the Teamspeak days. Good seeing your channel going strong sir!
My big question is, are these removals / blocks only for the current versions (which are known to cause problems as you've shown), or are they for all future versions too?
I can understand them uninstalling broken software if it is known to cause those bugs you show if it helps the installer update correctly.
It remains to be seen I suppose...
Probably just for the Dev/Canary builds though if the compatibility issues remain when 24H2 progresses to release preview/release they'll remain blocked. Britec should know better than to scaremonger over compatibility issues in bleeding-edge dev/canary builds.
@ElvenSpellmaker I hope that is the case.
Thank you. I will block 24h2 until we could use our programs.
Block the blockkeer ?
Stardock, which also develops similar product Start11 has shed some light on the situation in one of their posts. It appears all Microsoft is doing is shoring up some legacy code, which these two applications are relying on. This is why they are blocked. Stardock has written their own replacement taskbar without relying on Windows components so are unaffected. Internal private APIs being utilized is a rather shortsighted move by any developer as they are subject to change. That's precisely why ExplorerPatcher has that failsafe. StartAllBack probably only relies on a small portion which is why it can be made to work.
I was a Mac user for 29 years and realized I could switch to PCs, save a bundle, and add more PCs than I could afford with Macs. That was 2015. However, I needed one CRITICAL tweak to stay on PCs: hot corners. Once you get used to and like Hot Corners there's no going back. I'm not asking you to like it, I'm asking Windows to understand if you block it and not offer the same feature properly -- I'm gone.
It's not a feature I use but I believe KDE Plasma in Linux has hot corners functionality.
And what on earth are hot corners...
@@ZATennisFan Well, not sure with Windows as I jumped back in Windows 7 days. I am guessing the functionality that is in KDE in Linux where you can assign action to be carried out when the mouse pointer reaches a position on the screen. So, you could, if you set it up correctly, in KDE, drag your mouse pointer to the top rigt hand corner of the screen and have all your desktops previewed for selection, or start the editor or whatever.
I get such via keyboard shortcuts which KDE is utterly unrivalled in!
@@jedipadawan7023 you could probably do something with windows power toys
@@ZATennisFan Maybe. But given Linux KDE works for me and I do not use hot corners, personally, I'm good.
Guess it's time to try Linux again, it's been ages since my last try :D
My favorite Windows customization app is Linux.
Thanks for the update ! Thought about finally sacrificing a weekend to update to Win 11and service my setup. Now i'll just rebuild my rig and PC corner since i will not deal with this Microsoft crap. Yes - i will have to update at some point but well... not now. I do wonder if these changes include even more telemetry or us not being able to deactivate things any more. When i "upgrade" i#ll surely use the non localised way to install - but i#m sure they also work on that one to add more crap.
Attempts to block tweaks can come with really nasty side effects on other applications that are more important in the commercial sphere.
Keep it up Microsoft, I'm ready to learn Linux..
Start "learning". For most people the "learning" part take about an hour if you are switching to Linux Mint.
I have 24H2 and I have explorer patcher. The only thing that happened was that my task bar was the same color as the desktop. I just upgraded explorer patcher and the desktop went to looking normal
All this sounds like it will be Illegal in Australia under consumer laws. They will need to give the ACCC very good reasons why or face anti competition charges. Some new proposed anti competition regulations have some real bite. Going are the days of fining monster companies a couple of hundred dollars, that is lost change in the car park scale. We are now talking 10% of product turnover and thousands of dollars, something to make corporate shareholders look up from their share profit cheques. Equally, I would also question its legality, or acceptability, under EU regulation.
The fact being, if MS find that third party addons are becoming over popular, then they should rethink their offering in terms of why. Its not good business the way they are going, unless they intend to make windows subscription and charge companies to use the windows platform. It will take about 10 years to create world wide software for an alternative platform or instantly make Apple bigger by the same amount that MS is now. So MS would reap a huge amount of cash from closing up the platform to software developers who do not pay for access and going subscription for some years. Where they could then relent and keep their smaller user base having made a heap and leap forth as new "we have seen the light" organisation, spruiking open platforms and so on.
You've posted this comment word-for-word on every video on the subject. No it's not, no they won't - when Microsoft demonstrates how (for example) StartAllBack works internally, the ACCC will (quite rightfully) classify it as a virus.
@@throwaway6478 I wrote it here first then on one other site saying I had posted it here. "Every video on the subject" you say Yes, every video if they are the only two, and two hardly makes for a serial offence does it? Especially as MS may be seen as anti competitive from a developers perspective. One who is giving users something that many want and vindictive from a user perspective. So what are you bumping your gums about? You write "No it's not, no they wont" What's "not" and what's "wont" about then? I have no clue what not and what won't you are writing about they are not referenced.
The ACCC is not interested in viruses. Never was, never will be, unless it reduces competition. Bit like some EU regulations.
My second sentence in my original post says MS would need to give a good reason to the ACCC. Not that they could not give a reason or were incapable of giving a valid reason. The fact the MS changed the OS to block the addon applications means it could be construed as anti competition and even vindictive, taking away what the customer had paid for and was using seamlessly. The EU has found MS to be anti competition in some aspects as well.
Now. If you want to explain what you are writing about I will see if I can answer your questions. OK.
@@jimspc07Sorry mate, I'm not reading all that butthurt. 🤣
@@throwaway6478 Well if you cant be bothered reading a response don't ask or pose questions. You will find life angst free.
Time to start blocking patch servers in my router.
Start11 is still supported though with 24h2 and does allow you to undo that MacOS layout that they gave Win11.
Going to switch to Linux Mint 22 or Pop OS 24.04, for sure.
Shame on you Microsoft. Not doing big feature upgrades on my main PC a lot. But when i do i reformat my PC and i customize my ISO with NTLite.
Until you get editing access to the windows kernel that isn't your ISO it's Microsoft's ISO
This just makes Linux start looking like a better option for people who are going to hate this.
“Blocking apps” Kind of an odd take. Automatically upgrading a user running an app known to cause issues would be bad. Delaying their upgrade until said app has been updated to a compatible version is the responsible thing to do. People always fuss when MS doesn’t test enough, but now when they know they are making changes that could break apps like this and try to protect the user from issues, they are “blocking”…okay 🙄
Finally the one person who is actually using brain
Micro$oft seems bent on pissing off their user base. They keep bellyaching that they're losing marketshare to Linux, and their heads are stuck too far up their asses to realize that doing shit like this is why people are migrating to Linux.
You have to keep in mind, we do own our computers, but Microsoft owns Windows. By accepting their terms of service when you install it on your PC, you gave them permission to do the things they're doing. That's just the world we're living in now.
So the 'Spymaster' OS pull the strings and choke its own users . One of reasons wipe Windows from my PC 4 years ago.
I maybe had some struggle to learn Linux commands at first but , after 2-3 months experiment on it, I learn a good amount about it.
And I continue learning. When Microsoft especially announced the death of Win 10 , I take my decision : Windows isn't the OS used to be anymore. To much control. To much tracking ...
I take my freedom back . As for games ...they most run perfect , no issues and performance is better in some cases.
Microsoft has always thought of your PC as belonging to them. Cheeky blighters (to be polite). They'll block browsers other than Edge next. EDIT: This news has certainly woken us all up!!
LINUX!
Hi, @Britec09 After watching this video I'm looking for a way to block the 24H2 update. I'm thinking of staying on 23H2. Some time ago you showed us how to target a version of Windows but I cannot remember what you showed us. Could you show us how one more time, please?
Same as Windows 10 which need to turn off all antivirus and approve applications with patches
cant wait until windows dies
How do we know what that list is...There are some other tools I use that you don't mention.
Wonder what Muta from SomeOrdinaryGamers thinks about this windows change.
What I didn't like about Windows 11 is that Microsoft redid the toolbar from scratch, wanting to copy the Macosx style, and it was unstable and cluttered, on the Mac there is a dock but there is also a toolbar at the top. Even if we leave the taskbar "stretched", it's still bad. This envy that Microsoft has towards Apple (and Microsoft owns a large part of Apple's stocks) makes Windows worse every day.
Thanks, Brian for this video.
A friend told me today that, the black screen of Death, he said it was doing it with Classic Shell, on his laptop but mine is working so I have no idea why he is doing that.
Take care
microsoft should be hauled before the courts for anti comepetitive practises come on EU
blocking OEM software for your hardware is an anti-competitive class action lawsuit waiting to happen.
I'm no MS fan, but I think in this case it's pretty obvious that the reason why these apps are being blocked is because they are causing problems with this update. I expect this will be removed once the apps are updated to be compatible with this version of windows.
One can always hope, but I'm not holding my breath. If MS had half decent applications on their system people wouldn't need to search for third party alternatives. Maybe they should be going down that track....make something that actually serves their customers' needs.
Don't be silly@@ozrob8726; there's no money in that!
@@ozrob8726
MS isn't going to fall for that again. We all remember when they were branded a monopoly and dragged through the courts for including too many applications.
I really do hope this is the case.
Companies being nice ya right - thats rich.
I updated mine today. No issues so far for me.
Wow, going into the video I thought it would just be them changing things so the (current versions of) customization software stops working, but they've actually gone and blocked a list of specific executables outright. Not good.
Explorerpatcher already has a fix. It’s just not fully released yet since this version of Windows is still so early of an insiders build but they will probably release the update once Windows releases 24h2
I haven't been able to update since I set my PC to dual boot Linux. Glad I'll be dumping them this month.
MS Just keeps getting worse with every update!
Who's computer is it? your or Microsofts???
Why are so many people comparing this to Apple? You can install and run anything on MacOS, which is the direct equivalent to windows in this case. Apple don’t stop you like Microsoft are doing here. There’s a warning when you try to run something unsigned and downloaded from the internet, but they provide a workaround; the first time you run it you need to right-click it and select open, then confirm that you do actually want to run it. After that it opens as normal with a double click or from the applications menu. What Microsoft are doing is way worse. I wonder if this version will block debloat tools or the various methods of stopping them loading Teams back on to your start menu after you’ve uninstalled it. Really slimy practices coming out of Microsoft lately.
I think I'm just going to do a clean installation of Windows 11 24H2 whenever its release the general public, because I know I will run into that black screen of dead. I tweaking stuff on my system.
well atleast they seem to be blocking it to avoid potential issues during the upgrade and not in an attempt to get people using their start menu
This upsets me. I paid for my pro license , and I expect to be able to customize my system as I see fit. Any program or os that does unwanted changes to a system is malware.
those apps are not customising properly through overlay method wich is allowed theny hack system drivers and files wich only malware does
This is why I stop using windows after trying windows 8 when to linux mint.
So at the end of the day you get to use the default Windows 11 configuration, Microsoft Office and......probably nothing else that is not in the MS Store.
Could Microsoft be doing this to get the app creator to sell it on the Microsoft Store. That way they'll get their two cents for each sale.
i have just seen on a website that Microsoft are making it harder to switch away from Edge with software.
Microsoft making Windows more like the walled garden of Apple but without Apple's trouble free updates. Meanwhile Ubuntu and Linux Mint and Debian are getting better and better...
I don't understand why they make the os more and more restrictive. Most people are stuck with using this garbage, and it is getting worse with every update. Restriction,bloatware,useless features,bugs,changes nobody asked for,invasive telemetry,seriously this is getting ridiculous
It's fine if they block certain applications - IF me, the owner and user of the device, is able to bypass that via a simple checkbox in the settings. Tell me what I'm doing is not intended and can cause trouble, but keep letting me do it. Also, if so many users use those tools to tweak their system, Microsoft would do well just supporting it natively. It's not like they didn't already have certain functions and customizations users are now wanting back.
It's bad enough that Microsoft is blocking applications from being run but they could at least notify you before you end up with the "Black Screen of Death". Hey Microsoft, the more you tighten your grip, the more users will slip through you're fingers...
Like what Princess Leia said to the Grand Morf Tarkin with foul stench!
@@shengyi1701 Precisely
Built a new system. Installed 11. Wow, what a mistake. Went back to 10 pro. Blocked updates. I'm happy again!
I'm sticking with Windows 10. I see no reason to put up with Windows 11.
I hope this only be patch for home version not PRO.
coz Businesses will sue them for sure if their business suddenly halted because of this unexpected patch that destroyed their business process and lost a lot of money. there are businesses who customize explorer for the sake of limited access control for their employees.
Linux Mint is our only hope... save us Linux!
Erm, there are about 300 other Linux hopes out there!
Well that settles my debate or whether to go to 11 from 10 or straight to Linux congratulations Microsoft
Its not only happening with win 11, i reinstalled windows 3 times now this 2 months, i notice something was up when i could not modify the pc region in order to remove microsoft edge, no matter what metod ive used, registry , gpedit, msedge redirect europe method etc, everything i was trying was saying i dont have permission, even tho i was giving myself admin with full control, then i reinstalled windows, tried to use christitus winutil, was not let me run it, then after some time windows just bricked, most likely after the first cumulative/feature update..
long story short, win 10 22h2 build 19045.4291 is as worst as last versions of win 11, no more flexibility, modifications, disabling or uninstalling things, i feel like the stuff will be more and more baked in and forced on us.
I'm a big fan of gadgets ever since they were available on Windows. On my Win 11, I'm using 8gadgetpack to get back some stock gadgets. Hope it will stil work in 24H2...
It doesn't function like a virus (unlike StartAllBack etc.), so it'll be fine.
@@throwaway6478 Thanks for the reply!
Windows 11 What's that? I migrated to Linux during the Windows 10 era.
So if microsoft does not want people to use your computer as you will like to use it time for linux and run windows in a vm
These tactics will only force people to look to move to other operating systems like Linux. All versions of Linux will need to be looked at to see which versions are acceptable to ex-Windows users. Microsoft will go down like the Titanic if this continues in my opinion. People will have to start looking for "Linux Lifeboats".
Windows 10 are gonna be better and better nowadays, while people claimed "Windows 11 is better than 10" or "Win 11 finally has be a good OS" when its the opsseside of 10, and sometimes a new worst version of vista or 8.1.
Im not talk about customasation, but the other ones "blocked" lmao.
Does this affect OpenShell as well?
They managed to make KDE plasma look more polished 😂
Everyone who purchased these apps that Microsoft is blocking should send invoices for the money they spent on the apps.
paid 5 bucks for a key to a gaming platform(win). and got a free OS (Linux) for everything else. Linux developers should thank windows for doing this sheet
Seems MS is simplifying and streamlining the OS, so AI could take more Tech jobs.
Don't use Windows, or any product from companies which do not have respect for their customers.
No problem, those programs all seem like a savior when you find them but eventually your system starts to get errors or things start crashing or not working as expected. Anything that messes with the system shell will most likely be a problem. Most 3rd party apps or open source software is trial and error and not usually rigorously tested enough to be very dependable or secure. Most people will hate this update but the result will be saving them from other problems. Microsoft has been listening to people lately and have reverted some of the changes they made to explorer already and maybe in the future will revert other things as well. Wait till the next OS releases, most likely things will get more restricted.
If Microsoft allowed us to have the same configurations for the start menu and taskbar that were available in pre Windows 11 versions, we wouldn't need to use these customisation programs
Microsoft never should have made Windows 8 or 10 or 11. They should have stopped at Windows 7 and just rolled out updates to that. Windows 7 was the best Windows and I was very happy with that. Then Windows 8 came and they got rid of the start menu and everything. I hated the Metro Theme. Then when I heard we were not going to be able to disable automatic updates in Windows 10 that was it for me. I was never going to upgrade to Windows 10 so I stayed on Windows 7 and 8 for as long as I could. Then most of the software did not work anymore because no web browsers were supporting Windows 7 or 8. I installed Linux Mint and have been using it now for two years. I think I did the right thing switching to Linux because I could never get on with Windows 11. I don't even want to use it. I took one look at it when I bought my new laptop that had Windows 11 on there and I hated it. I was glad to uninstall it to get it off of my computer. I installed Linux Mint on that laptop as well.
@@AndreaBorman I installed Win11 on a new mini pc I recently got. While it installed easily because of the new hardware, it's utter garbage. I ended up putting Win10 on it (albeit some driver issues) and Linux. I use Linux more than Windows on it though.
@@AndreaBorman I've been a fan of Windows since Windows 95 but I hated Windows 8. Windows 10 grew on me after I uninstalled the bloatware and disabled all the telemetry. Then I got Windows 11, which is a devil in disguise. That one is blocked from internet access.
fr, the fact that you can't even change the position of the task bar to be at the top or right of the desktop in windows 11 without explorer patcher is nonsense
@@NightcoreClips_ Yep, that got me as well. Using Linux for the last couple of years has spoilt me. Now when I need to use Windows, its getting more and more frustrating.
Windows 11 is the reason why I finally moved to Linux...
I tried to use Linux, many easy to use distros especially broke constantly on me, so I ended up moving back to Windows. It wasn't so much the setting up/installing the distro that was difficult per say, just something always seemed to fuck up and brick it when trying to further personalize it to my liking. Windows 7 FTW.
somehow it all dawned on you slowly
Windows 7 is the reason why I finally moved to Linux...
Yes I will learn how to use debian from now on. will switch in 1 month.
@@IvanBorzenkov unfortunately back then linux didn't have many viable alternatives to alot of windows based programs, but now I have found equal if not better open source alternatives i've made the leap over to linux :)
@@NightcoreClips_ If you are surely having problems with Linux installations, I would recommend beginning with attempting to install Ubuntu Linux on your system. Ubuntu is the best-maintained and is backed by a corporation named Canonical, which only provides some services but is not dominated by services and perfectly balances the user with profit, never prioritizing either as the company backs open-source most of the time.
They need to allow people to set their systems up the way they want, like Win 10 was. It is insane not to do this
who do you think you are ? The owner of the computer ????! ...oh wait yes you are !
@@venix20 You may be the owner of the hardware components of your PC, but not Windows :)
That sounds a lot like Linux. KDE Plasma 6 is way more customizable than Windows will ever be, but you will have to adapt to a new OS if you want to try that. Windows 10 is good, but I want a stable system (fighting with Windows Update is hard).
@@JohnDoe-wl8zk If Microsoft want this level of control then Windows needs to be free. It is not, it is included in the purchase price of your PC or you have to buy a copy if you built your own system. A warning is fine, removing stuff they don't like is not.
While you're at it why don't you expect Joe Biden to grow some competence and be able to locate his own pants zipper by himself to properly prep to urinate. Long story short good luck with that because in more than 22 years do you honestly think micro crap gives a flying crap about what you think and your fourth amendment privacy rights. Get real any PC you boot up into Windows and is connected online for any reasonable amount of time is not your computer
My Steam game collection finally hit critical mass last month so i moved completely to Linux Mint.
Farewell Windows... you died many years ago. 🙃
I would say welcome to the dark side but honestly welcome to the light side. You are free.
How easy is it to install? What big things will I miss switching over?
Yep I switched to Linux almost a year ago, Arch Linux, I do have some issues with games that use anticheat, those are the only games I have to fire up windows again to play..which is frustrating.
@@bananajoe9951 Buy cheapo computer to find out the issues.
@@bananajoe9951 You will miss absolutely nothing if you are using your computer for everyday stuff and for general use. The only reason someone is sticking with Windows OS is because Window's specific software or game, not because the OS itself. The best thing to do is just to go and install Linux Mint or Linux MX on a second device and just see for yourself. It's easy and you will be surprised how much quick and responsive will become any older computer in particular.
So Windows is taking the badge as malware to 100%.. Nice 🎉
An evil company. Do not thinking in the user anymore
It starts with blocking innocent tweaks like this. Then it moves to blocking pretty much everything that’s not in the Microsoft store. If it’s gonna be like this, I might just stay on Windows 10 way after support has ended. Regardless of it being less secure. I’d rather just reformat my system every few years if I get too many viruses then have all of my special games and applications for the blind not work.
Like emulators for instance
@@tobyzilla yeah like emulators. Or software that they don’t recognise such as a lot of software I use. Pirated programs. Basically, any program they don’t like.
@griffster17 first off emulators are legal and 2nd of all I agree a company can't just block you from installing programs from the internet since I believe that is agenst anti trust laws
@@tobyzilla I know that emulators are legal. But a lot of the games for the blind that I play are legal as well. And they are written in a code called BGT. Standing for blast bay game tool kit. Now this is a code specifically written for blind users, And contains no visuals at all. However over the last eight or so years, I’ve actually had to make folder exclusions for the folder where I run these applications. This has not been an issue over the last eight years, as you have the ability to do this. All you have to do is just add an exclusion in Windows defender. And then make that the folder where you run all those games. And as somebody who’s blind, I can’t afford a lot of applications as I’m on a lot less than the minimum wage here. So I do have to pirate things from time to time. I also run a lot of old applications in emulators as you say. And all they need to do, is just decide that we can’t. That’s the scary thing. And I mean: why do they care if we modify windows? It’s not affecting them, we are usually still paying for it.
I can see this heading towards if it isn't in the Microsoft store, you ain't having it and that sucks. 👎
Its not looking good.
That was my initial thought..
The problem then is the only windows programs I use are (probably) not in the microsoft store. Things like dyno software solidworks and engine blueprinting sofware are all I would ever use windows for. No I don't own solidworks yet. Frankly if I could move everthing I would, I already don't allow windows machines to be on the internet.
they did this with windows in s mode back on windows 8
@@Britec09 Perhaps Microsoft instead of calling it's next OS Windows 12, should call it "Windows Titanic"?
Yet one more reason to stay on Windows 10 for now.
Or go Linux. I'm liking LMDE6. They were quick to give me an update on the recently mentioned (on this channel) problem.
@@Pahrump Gaming sucks on Linux so it's not for me.
@@JohnDoe-wl8zk This is a myth. 80% of my steam library works just fine on linux with minor tweaking. If you can edit an ini file or w/e you can game on Linux.
@@JohnDoe-wl8zk It is not that bad. You might be in trouble with games that have anticheats which haven't been configured to allow Linux though.
w10 is bad to be fair. windows 7 was the last good one.