This is actually a scene from "My boy Jack", depicting the Irish Guards taking part in a attack during the second day of the battle of Loos. The officer, played by Daniel Radcliffe, is John Kipling, the only son of the author Rudyard Kipling. John Kipling was killed in this action, and his body was never identified; though in 1992 researchers determined that the body of an unidentified Irish Guards officer in the Saint Mary's Dressing Station cemetery may be the remains of John Kipling. The death of his only son devastated Kipling; he felt enormous guilt over the influence he used to get his son into the Army when John's poor eyesight should have made him unfit for service. Kipling and his wife spent the rest of their lives trying first to discover their son's fate, and then to try and locate his remains, tragically they never succeeded in either endeavor.
My grandad was at The Somme and went over the top. He told me that the two guys immediately to the left and right of him were shot straight away but somehow he survived that and the hand to hand combat. He was deafened eventually and sent back home but ended up in Cologne as art of the army of occupation at the end of the war. He was mentally traumatised though and my dad told me would often cry for no obvious reason. He died in 1994 three days short of his 100th birthday
even the officers didnt want to see their men die but they had no choice. Truly a sad and brave sacrifice. RIP to all the brave young men who died in combat and to those who survived.
These were basically all suicide missions.. ppl who didn't comply were either branded a coward, executed or shamed.. it was really a set up too, 90 percent all die
It all makes perfect sense to me: the Russian word for a firearm round is 'патрон' (patron), which is directly descended from Latin (through French) 'patron' (supporter) you can see in 'Expecto Patronum'. In Russian the word is used to communicate both meanings.
I honestly can't believe my granddad survived this,and died at the great age of 98! Bless him,he never mentioned the ugly side of it,and only really ever spoke fondly of the friends he served with. He was a lovely man and I loved him dearly as a kid,he always seemed to look for the good in poeple.
My gran lived through the First War. She told me about the telegram boy that went from house to house delivering the news that a husband, brother or son had fallen. Gran said that she clearly remembers the wife coming into the street wearing a long pinecone, clutching the telegram and 3 of her small children clutching hard onto mum. She was followed into the street by other house wives with similar bad news. The men were all part of a Pals Battalion , all from the same town. A bad time for our country. LEST WE FORGET RIP
Yeah, those pals brigades were not a good idea, the idea that you fight better with your mates around makes sense but in truth seeing your mates get blown to pieces would be a tad demoralising...... An awful time in history and people moan about their lives today!!
@@zaphodbeeblebrox9109 Really??? Thanks, Captain Obvious. The battle the film, My Son Jack, is portraying is the battle of Loos. Daniel Radcliff is playing the part of Jack Kipling, so everything Mr. ShaneVicious said is valid. If you want to hack at someone, start with the Muppet who posted this clip and called it the Somme.
@@exJacktar Not all of them. But if you ever need to tell the difference between a film and real life, im your man! Disclaimer: Congrats to your son, and i mean no disrespect to actors, or war heros.
Not as eager for that point than to defend their families. But Britain was extremely patriotic at this time and people would have felt it as their duty as a man to fight for the British Empire.
Women on the streets of Britain handed out White Feathers to fighting age males who had not joined the Army to brand them as cowards. In order to avoid this shame many would have enlisted.
tankmanmatt111 My great grandfather fought along side yours then, he was in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers and managed to lose his thumb but went back in a couple of weeks. He also fought in Greece, Italy, Turkey and Egypt. The Royal Dublin Fusiliers were also sadly not recognized and forgotten by the Irish till recently due to the whole thing with Britain and Ireland
This isn’t the Somme. It’s a depiction of the the Irish Guards attack during the Battle of Loos in 1915. A dead giveaway is that no one is wearing a helmet which were not issued until April 1916. By the time of the Somme in July 1916, everyone wore a tin hat.
My grandfather and his three brothers fought at Ypres, the Somme and several others. Amazing thing was that each one of them came home afterwards and went on to live full lives. There would have been many families that would have lost all their boys.
Indeed..and their young lads had a hard time and KIA in WW2. WW 1 11KIa WW2 9 KIA .just one male left in 1945 may. He went to Korea.🏴 🏴🏴
Mein Urgroßvater kämpfte am 20. September. 1916 an der Somme bei Rancourt und wurde verwundet, seine drei Brüder kamen auch alle aus dem Krieg nach Hause und hatten viele Nachkommen, alle waren Farmer an der Dänischen Grenze, die nächste Generation hat es 1944-45 sehr hart getroffen, viele sind in Russlands Erde geblieben!
Those poor men, that last minute must have seemed like an eternity before they went over the top, that horrible wait while their minds ran riot thinking of what might happen in the next few minutes. I had a relative that fought at the Somme, he was one of the few lucky ones that made it home but was horribly effected by shell shock afterwards, apparently even the sound of a thunderstorm was enough to trigger his memories. R.I.P to all those who gave their lives for their country.
I'm definitely not in the position to make judgements from my comfy sofa, but I guess when you realize the inevitability of something (you're already here, and you can't run, go back) you some sort of accept your fate, and it becomes not as scary as it seems for sofa-enjoyers like me. (Still, they perfectly knew it's almost 100% death run, and no human being would say he's not afraid in such a situation).
@@whitetroutchannel They were meant to stop artillery shrapnel, not direct rifle and machine gun rounds. They saved a lot of troops from head wounds that would have otherwise been fatal.
This is the movie about Kipling's son and he didn't die on the Somme, he died at Loos a year earlier. Life expectancy of a subaltern in the trenches was 41 days, in the Flying Corps it was 11 days, he didn't have the eyesight to meet army standards, so it was Kipling's fault he was there.
The "Reichswehr" (note the spelling) were the armed forces of the Weimar Republic from 1919 and into the Nazi period, I think 1935, when the name was changed to "Wehrmacht". The German forces during World War One were the "Kaiserliches Heer" ("Imperial Army") and "Kaiserliche Marine" ("Imperial Navy"). So you are right about what the Imperial Army did, but we shouldn't score one for the Reichswehr here.
@@TheWineGuy101 Voldemort is too close minded to bother with muggle weapons. Now I'm surprised Harry and Hermione didn't try to use guns as a more efficient way to deal with death eaters.
My grandfather was an ambulance driver in WW1. He must have seen the horrible results of battle over and over again. He lost part of a foot to frostbite and had a cutting edge surgery of the time that allowed him to walk. He was a hard man.
Happy WAYS 1. He doesn't have a wand. 2. The spell probably isn't intended to stop 600 bullets a minute. 3. You try saying the magic words properly when bullets are flying past you.
Love the detail of checking the watch for when to attack. Really points out the fact that this was fully industrialized, scheduled warfare. A literal War Machine.
They had to wait for the wave of shelling to finish, but not wait long enough for the Germans to come out from hunkering down. Without radios, they had to go by a precise schedule. A ten-minute delay at the Somme was disastrous because the Germans had time to get their machine guns in place 😢
Rudyard Kipling's only son is the officer. He had poor eyesight and was initially rejected by the army, but his dad pulled strings to get him accepted. He wanted to "do his bit." The old lie eh, "dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori." Sweet and fitting my arse.
Mine made it through the entire war, even the Somme. He was badly gassed once but he survived. He, and those like him, were called 'Kaiser-Antagonisers' :-) God rest your Great Grandfather's brave soul, Brother; and my Great Grandfather's ; and all the other souls of all of the BRAVE men who faced...... Lord knows what they faced...... they faced death. We honour them.
Nothing fair about going over the top straight into machine-gun fire and exploding shells, these young lads had no chance, 92 % died or was injured beyond help. This was complete criminal from the generals towards their own soldiers. If they ask you today to cross a football field from one goal towards the other goal in a straight line with 4 machine-guns mowing everything down and they say to you you have 100 million pounds if you make it to the other side. Would you be insane enough to try it ? I guess not. But the young British, Canadian, Australian, N-Zealand boys who fought in France and Belgium had no choice or were shot by there own. While the generals were far away from danger in their chateau. Just criminal, insane. I have the most respect for those who fought, died or get injured or even returned without any injury. Those who were there saw the horror (bloodshed, body parts ripped off etc)of trench warfare with all the other misery around (trench feet, lice, shell shock, rats, rain and mud). Most of the young dying lads cried for their mum,( this is not why she had put him on this world). Many are in a nameless grave or even buried somewhere at the battlefields without any indication of their presence. Hope the leaders of today and tomorrow never make this mistake again.
+THthefirst To be honest, I never saw it but because you wrote about it I looked it up in wikipedia and the fourth series are set in 1917 on the Western Front in the trenches of the First WW. I will try to look to it if I can find it somewhere.
You have to remember these tactics theses armies used worked for 200 years, its just the pace of tech and industry completly overturned how wars were fought, like the tactics used by the end of ww1 are still used today ie combined arms ect
+Black Fox I saw one inter view where they where talking to a Japanese ex solder and he said that dyeing Japanese solders would cry for there mothers also as they laid there dyeing heard some place all men will do that hoping there mothers will make them well once more . was that way in Vietnam also : (
War is horrible, WW1 must have been hell on Earth for those young lads when they went over the top. Our local war memorial has one brave soldiers name on from Afghanistan, 32 from WW2 and 80 from WW1. I can't imagine what it was like back then losing 80 young men from one small village. I salute and thank them all for making the ultimate sacrifice for the freedom of our country.
War is hell. Rather use talks and reason to solve the problems. Look at Ukraine and Russia. All the pain and sadness, not only for Ukraine but all humanity. Watching it makes me cry. May God bring an end to this madness. South Africa
i understand that it must be scary to go over the top. But during the Somme first wave soldiers were pretty confident and thought it was going to be easy since there was a massive shelling.
+Alex fatgee Honestly, I kind of doubt that first wave felt an overwhelming sense of bravery. A lot of those guys outright knew they were more than likely not coming back. Some of the letters written during the war about life in the trenches reflect that. Going out of those trenches onto the battlefield was a death sentence. Reminds me a lot of the trench warfare in the American Civil War during the late war. Union soldiers felt the same way hurdling into Confederate trenches.
Alex fatgee all soldiers were confident because there superiors told them nothing could have lived through the barrage which is why they walked over no mans land to the enemy.
Ya, one of the first waves even had a footballer in the unit and punted one into no mans land and the Pals followed after it. The were fairly confident. They didn’t expect much resistance.
When the French army mutinied pity all the others did not join them, my grandfather was a stretcher bearer he went back for an officer under withering fire. He was awarded the second highest award, a German officer spoke of his gallantry, he went through the war without a scratch only to die of miners lung. When I see films like this I feel so sad not only for my grandfather , but all the soldiers that went through what must have been a truly horrific war.
There remains no definite evidence that proves his cause of death. He was last seen attacking a German position, possibly with a head injury. He was confirmed to have died around 3 miles away from where he was believed to have died
NEVER FORGET THE ONES WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE BY TAKING UP ARMS TO FIGHT AND GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR OUR PRESENT FREE RIGHTS ETC AS SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL ONCE SAID DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR “ NEVER WAS SO MUCH OWED BY SO MANY TO SO FEW “ WHICH REFERRED TO ALL OF THE ARMED FORCES AIR, LAND AND SEA AND THE RISKS THEY WERE FACING ONCE DEPLOYED TO PROTECT THEIR HOMELANDS ETC
just imagine the gut wrenching feeling that the last thing they'll ever hear was the trench whistle over the deafening roar of artillery must have brought to the poor souls. WW1 is *truly* the definition of hell on Earth due to constant artillery barrages that lasted if not hours, days or even weeks and other atrocious tactics like the usage of mustard gas on enemy entrenchments. this isn't meant to downplay the horrors of WW2 but there will *never* be a war as hellish nor as brutal as The Great War
+MrRabioza Correct, the first day of The Somme Offensive was a sunny and hot day with birds singing. It might've rained later during that offensive (it lasted months if I recall), but they would've worn steel helmets then.
Irish Guards. All volunteers. Not one of them needed to be there. Vast majority of then pious Catholics. Loyal to King and country (their country being Ireland rather than England). Quis Separabit. Who will separate us. They didn't blubber. They said their prayers and then went over the top. Great men. Rest in peace. Young Kipling was honoured to lead a platoon of such men.
The officers that thought and died along side their fellow soldiers have my respect. They are what I call the heroic officers and not the cowardly generals sitting miles away from the fighting.
My grandfather survived the somme borne cookstown county tyrone 1874 was over 40yrs old when he went over the top 36th Ulster division out of 700 men 630 were killed in his battalion or unit !!! Would visit him at foster greens hospital in hollywood county down died aged 98 did not have children till he was in his fifties !
@@johncheevers2050 630 out of 700 killed would not be correct, that figure would be casualties, i.e. killed, wounded, prisoner or war and missing. It's surprising how many people think casualties means killed. Which regiment was your grandfather serving in? Martin Middlebrook, in his book The First Day On The Somme, gives a list of battalions that had over 500 casualties. There are three from the 36th (Ulster) Division, the 13th Royal Irish Rifles, (Co. Down), 595 casualties, the 11th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (Donegal and Fermanagh), 589 casualties and 9th Royal Irish Rifles (Co. Armagh, Monaghan and Cavan), 532 casualties.
@@rogueriderhood1862 36th Ulster division he served in I can say I've been in the presence of a whole ward of somme survivors foster grey hospital count down !! Infact ian paisley buried my grandfather from our house 44 southport st oldpark road north belfast his name andrew cheevers
My Boy Jack is a 2007 British biographical television film based on David Haig's 1997 play of the same name for ITV. It was filmed in August 2007, with Haig as Rudyard Kipling and Daniel Radcliffe as John Kipling. [from Wikipedia]
I visited the remains of these trenches on a field trip when I was in the army, to see the graves row apon row and trench apon trench I honestly can say the only way I can explain the atmosphere standing there is "speachless" lest we forget. they gave their today for our tomorrow at the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them 👍
@@tubarao1143 Any war that is purely political is pointless. Basically 90% of all wars from the middle ages to now. Hell, even the remaining 10% are often filled with so much political non sense that it almost renders them pointless as well.
what blody tomorrow ? I cant believe that there are still idiots who think that in WW1 one side was more right than another one. They should have left Austria to deal with serbian terrorists and everything would be fine
This is from a PBS masterpiece classic on "My Boy Jack" by Rudyard Kipling. Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) is portraying Kipling's son Jack who was killed in WWI at the Battle of Loos in 1915. I remember seeing this some years ago. This isn't the battle of the Somme, which came a year later.
So what tactics do you expect the generals to follow? Considering the technology at the time there is not a lot they could do except bombard the enemy lines with artillery and to just send the men in to charge. They literally had no other options avaliable to them. What would you do if you were in their position? To clarify I agree with your point that it was a waste of lives and there was little gain I'm just trying to justify the action of the generals in regard to going over the top. Both sides tryed desperatly to break the stalemate and make the war a mobile war again, however it was to no avail and the generals had no choice but to send them over the top, it wasn't a rediculous tactic, it was the only tactic.
George Cowan Yes you right. There were no armoured personal carriers, shoulder launched Javelin missiles or RAF laser guided airstrikes in those days. Going over the top after an artillery barrage was about all they could do. Those men were Bloody well as brave as Lions!
George Cowan The Germans were busy perfecting manuever warfare, and a lot of current doctrine on the topic originated from their officer's reports after the war. In a way you are right, there were no other options available to the British- but not because of lack of technology, but rather because they were not taught the methods of infiltration and asymmetrical warfare. The Japanese in WWII started by using human wave attacks, but quickly adapted and began using maneuver warfare. The British line officers were not permitted to "adapt."
Obviously you know a lot more than me on the topic, where my knowlage only comes around because of a bit of dabbeling. It's quite interesting how the British weren't allowed to adapt, do you have any reason to why that is?
Here_Pep_Pep In the WW1 timeline, the Germans maybe "got stuck in" a bit more in the form of Stosstruppen (shock troops) what with the flamethrower teams and men armed with the rapid firing MP-18! I don't know if we British deployed similar units?
I take it you have already been told that this scene is from the Battle of Loos 1915! It is the story of Rudyard Kiplin's son who died at the battle of Loos. My cousin Herbert Parker also died in that battle. His body was not found. One of the 1000's who was unidentified, may be even not found, after the bloodlust that was Trench warfare in The Great War! Not the Somme but Loos, and it is time we started to remember that it was not just The Somme that took Allied lives but Loos, Verdun, the three battles of Ypres and many more. And lets not forget the Germans who too were sent to the slaughter by their leaders too!
The problem wasn’t the machine guns or gas or artillery. The issue was the men that went over the top moved to slow because of they massive balls they had to carry.
Well they had to let the all the soldiers know when to charge, the trench wasnt just 10 meters long.. it went on for miles, there were milloins of troops on both sides
Yeah, because you can hear a whistle through rain from across trenches? also the massive artillery battery and then the sudden silence would have been notification enough.
My grandfather (Harry Ludford) fought this and many other battles as a member of the 26 New Brunswick Regiment (Canadian Expeditionary). He was one of the few originals who returned in 1919 after sailing from Saint John in June 1915. In 1901, he and his 2 siblings were shipped from Birmingham UK to New Brunswick as part of the British home Children. He must have liked wars, because he did it all over again in WW2. In WW1 he was shot in both legs by machine gun fire in a March 1916 skirmish. Good thing that the aim wasn't higher or I would not be writing this. No wonder he was moody - can't blame him. I only knew him for 12 years before he died in 1964 age 72. He was a survivor and someone I wish I got to know better. To me, I never heard him say a word about his past. One good memory I have of him was showing me how to load and shoot his 3:03 rifle circa 1960.
My great grandfather Johann Schweizer joined the German army in 1915. He went through the Somme battle as member of Infanterieregiment no. 169. They had to defend the remains of the village of Serre on July 1st. 1916. The area was attacked by the so called Accrington Pals Battalion which suffered terrible losses on that day. He survived the Somme battle unharmed but was severely wounded in early 1918, spent 9 months on hospital and passed away in 1974 when I was 4 years old.
All going men fighting because they had to. If you can, read Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger. He served and fought throughout the War. Try to get an early copy as it was edited in later years.
It was the Battle of Loos 1915 and tells the story of Rudyard Kipling's son Jack who was killed there. Notice the soft hats worn and it wasn't until 1916 tin hats were introduced.
Unfortunately, as it is with every conflict, young men get drawn by the sense of adventure and nationalist pride .WW1 was no different. In fact, it was probably an excuse for a lot of young men to escape their low paid jobs and find real 'adventure ' .In the UK, there was no need for the British government to force through a conscription act as hundreds of thousands flocked to the armed forces, even those who legally underage were permitted to join .
At the northern end of the Somme battle front many troops hardly got out of the trenches before being gunned down, while divisions at the southern end of the front made excellent progress and achieved their allotted objectives well ahead of time. This was a historic battle, film makers should try to tell the story, show the events. Results of the various attacks made along the front line, on the first day of the Somme, (a 15 mile front) were very mixed and very confusing until they were properly analyzed. Haigh believed he had achieved a victory, but then change his entire strategy from a breakthrough offensive to a battle of attrition. At the end of the battle both sides had lost over 400,000 casualties. The Germans retreated over fifty miles because they lacked the man power to man the salient upon which the Somme River was a part of that line. The British general staff believed the operation to have been a success, others disagreed!
400,000 casualties to win a few square miles of wasteland? That's the war in a nutshell. The high brass had no idea how to deal with modern rapid fire artillery & machine guns. Churchill was one of the few willing to think outside the box.
@@Caseytify tactics did evolve dramatically as the war progressed. By 1918 the British army was a finely honed instrument which broke the Hindenburg line and would have driven the German army out of Flanders and into Germany. One of the biggest mistakes I think made was to accept an armistice. The Germans should have been told only unconditional surrender will be accepted. But to answer your point the British High Command fully understood machine guns and modern artillery. They just accepted that high casualties attacking complex defence systems was inevitable. When the ‘snatch and hold’ tactic was introduced in 1917 the advances of the British army became permanent and meaningful. The destruction of the Kaiser’s last big offensive in March-April 1918 showed the tenacity and professionalism of the British army. The 1918 German offensive was bold and massive, it caught the allies off guard, but we quickly reacted to it, brought it to a halt and the drove back the German army. Thereafter total defeat for Germany was a matter of time. The decision to accept an armistice in November 1918 allowed the Germans to paint a false narrative of ‘betrayal’ and ‘stolen’ victory which could only be resolved in 1939-1945. If we had achieved total victory in 1918-1919 it would have been impossible to claim anything other than total defeat.
@@grahamcampbell8297 Haigh used soldiers as cannon fodder to gain a yard. The lives lost did weigh heavily on him,despite this he continued to force them into the same meat grinder without change. As for the armistice. More killing on both sides would helped no one. The terms forced on Germany were hellish enough and they caused WW2.
Как хорошо сыграна сцена подготовки к штыковой атаке.На лицах солдат растерянность, страх смерти, ужас. Где-то я читал, что самое тяжёлое на войне - это победить в себе страх. Полностью согласен с этим.
That officer was John Kipling, who this movie is based on. He went missing during the battle of Loos and was last reported attacking a German position with a possible head injury. He was discovered to have died during the battle
This ain’t The Somme, this is the Battle of Loos, late summer to early autumn 1915. Movie is “My Boy Jack” (2007), sabout Rudyard Kipling (famous poet, author of The Jungle Book, fervent nationalist and celebrated English writer) encouraging his son to go to war and what comes of that.
Warfare that horrific will never happen again thankfully. On the very first day at the Somme the British suffered over 60 THOUSAND killed in just a matter of hours. That's a slaughter on a scale too great to imagine.
You say that, however, if WWIII happens, millions will be dead in seconds. Let's pray humanity learns. Oh wait. We're still killing. Humanity will never learn
TheGamingWolf Well that's true, but a nuclear war is an entirely different kind of warfare. There is no face to face, hand to hand struggle to the death with your enemy when all you have to do is push a button. Nukes may be the most destructive weapon ever devised, but they are certainly NOT the most brutal. These men during World War I were slaughtering each other and looking one another in the eyes as they strangled, stabbed, clubbed, and shot each other to death with any weapon they could lay hands on in the most appalling conditions imaginable. I think that is much worse.
+Commander Shepherd I don't know, the Iran-Iraq war lasted from 1980 to 1988 and kept up this exact type of warfare for that entire time. It also depends on what you mean by horrific. More people were killed and wounded in the second world war, especially civilians as cities were targeted. Who knows? warfare in the future might involve one side made up entirely of drones just exterminating entire nations.
What did the British army think would happen, sending their soldiers headlong into machinegun fire? 20,000 killed at the Somme. A generation completly lost, needlessly by the incompetence of the top brass.
John Kipling died on Sept 27, 1915 in the Battle of Loos, not on the Somme, weeks after arriving in France. He had just passed his eighteenth birthday. His body was only identified in 2016.
The Somme was a bloodbath. The battle was in responce to relieve the German attack on the French at Verdun which in itself was a worse bloodbath. A lot of that battlefield is still off limits to the public.
i dont see it. is it those 2 silhouettes on the far right side of the screen in the distance? i dont even think those are hands i think they are cloth. correct me if wrong pls.
Imagine surviving all the that war had to offer and then going over the top to then make it 20 feet what an fucking stupid war that was massive respect to all sides that fought and the civilians who lost loved ones
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This is actually a scene from "My boy Jack", depicting the Irish Guards taking part in a attack during the second day of the battle of Loos. The officer, played by Daniel Radcliffe, is John Kipling, the only son of the author Rudyard Kipling. John Kipling was killed in this action, and his body was never identified; though in 1992 researchers determined that the body of an unidentified Irish Guards officer in the Saint Mary's Dressing Station cemetery may be the remains of John Kipling. The death of his only son devastated Kipling; he felt enormous guilt over the influence he used to get his son into the Army when John's poor eyesight should have made him unfit for service. Kipling and his wife spent the rest of their lives trying first to discover their son's fate, and then to try and locate his remains, tragically they never succeeded in either endeavor.
Must have been crippling…for kipling
Have you read the poem 'My Boy Jack'?
Thought the headgear looked out of place for the somme too, the "battle bowlers" were in use by then.
@@CountvonCount33 And the Somme began on a bright glorious sunny morning. The first day was hell on earth. The following days not much better.
Many thanks for filling in the story.
Presented in a glorious 3 frames per second
Behold the magic of technology
+Walter White
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Scott Yi I thought my phone froze
put it in 1.20 speed
German machine guns fire more rounds per second than that
The comment section:
50% Harry Potter jokes
50% saying this isn't the Somme
Not
Hagrid: you’re cannon fodder, Harry
...and this isn’t the Somme, it’s Loos
@Felix Simms wikipedia says that this movie takes place in 1915
@Felix Simms if this was somme, they would already wearing brodie helmet
100% pricks
My grandad was at The Somme and went over the top. He told me that the two guys immediately to the left and right of him were shot straight away but somehow he survived that and the hand to hand combat. He was deafened eventually and sent back home but ended up in Cologne as art of the army of occupation at the end of the war. He was mentally traumatised though and my dad told me would often cry for no obvious reason. He died in 1994 three days short of his 100th birthday
A gallant opponent. May he rest in peace
Bless his soul. I feel for you and your loved ones. South Africa.
🙏🙏🙏🇬🇧🙏🙏🙏
Lord be with him...
Question about WW1: When troops went over the top, were they immediately shot or did the enemy let them draw near before shooting them?
you're a officer harry
A what?
You’re a harry Officer
a hairy officer
an officer*
an your mama*
Harry Potter and the German Pillbox
Jimbob7595 Harry potter and ze German bullets
Jimbob7595 Harry Potter Order of the pillbox
Harry Potter and the Storm of Steel
And It wasn't actually about maschine gun but about pills :P
I laughed so hard I think I broke a rib
16 year old in 2020: lockdown is literally ruining my life.
16 year olds in 1916:
*getting shot for “being a coward” (not like shell shock exists)*
@Kevinkee13 well now that I think about it, the other guy edit his comment but I still think this was copied
Yeh because they have to they will be killed if they don't fight
I’ve literally seen someone else, write this 10months ago on a different vid.
Didn't need to...to be a underage hero,with no legs,or dead doesn't win conflicts and war.
even the officers didnt want to see their men die but they had no choice. Truly a sad and brave sacrifice. RIP to all the brave young men who died in combat and to those who survived.
These were basically all suicide missions.. ppl who didn't comply were either branded a coward, executed or shamed.. it was really a set up too, 90 percent all die
The generals at the top intended the men to die so they could more easily conquer our lands now. The bad guys won WW1 and ww2
So senseless.
Our leaders sent us to die so that their own security would not be endangered
Sacrifice for what?
Expecto Patronum?
More like Expect a machine gun.
Its significantly more effective
Golden comment. Almost as good as Trumps first two years.
It all makes perfect sense to me: the Russian word for a firearm round is 'патрон' (patron), which is directly descended from Latin (through French) 'patron' (supporter) you can see in 'Expecto Patronum'. In Russian the word is used to communicate both meanings.
So who played Harry potter
lmao
Your a Cannon Fodder Harry
You're*
This scene is from my favorite Harry Potter book: Harry Potter and the Trench of Doom.
Yeah, it comes after Harry Potter and the Fields of Verdun.
Harry Potter and a cannon fodder
Harry potter, the prisoner of war
And the companion piece Harry Potter and the battle with PTSD!
Harry Potter and the Half Bled-out Prince.
They are the true heroes. Respect from an Indian guy whose fore father fought in the indian British army first World War and second war
Heroes, as in bravery in the face of death, yes. But in truth they were pawns in a political game, nothing more.
Voldemort was behind the machine gun.
and Harry Potter was the officer that blew the whistle xD
+Krystian Sowinski We tough the same lol
+Balerion Or Draco.
'I cant get my bayonet fixed!'
'10 points from griffindor!'
you think this is funny?
they must be really hurting for troops when they draft Harry Potter.
+Aidan Otero
You sure that's not Himmler?
LOL
Hahaha
Rudyard kiplings son
He should have worn his Cloak of Invisibility.
I honestly can't believe my granddad survived this,and died at the great age of 98! Bless him,he never mentioned the ugly side of it,and only really ever spoke fondly of the friends he served with. He was a lovely man and I loved him dearly as a kid,he always seemed to look for the good in poeple.
My gran lived through the First War. She told me about the telegram boy that went from house to house delivering the news that a husband, brother or son had fallen. Gran said that she clearly remembers the wife coming into the street wearing a long pinecone, clutching the telegram and 3 of her small children clutching hard onto mum. She was followed into the street by other house wives with similar bad news. The men were all part of a Pals Battalion , all from the same town. A bad time for our country. LEST WE FORGET RIP
Yeah, those pals brigades were not a good idea, the idea that you fight better with your mates around makes sense but in truth seeing your mates get blown to pieces would be a tad demoralising......
An awful time in history and people moan about their lives today!!
not only for you country, all human beings who died in this pointless war
@@deskejtx6211 For certain
Wearing a long pinecone??
Woman fought too sexist
This is not at the Somme, this was set at the Battle of Loos in late Sept. 1915
.. A waste of British lives as the Somme was, but on a smaller scale.
MrShaneVicious no its a film
@@zaphodbeeblebrox9109 Really??? Thanks, Captain Obvious.
The battle the film, My Son Jack, is portraying is the battle of Loos. Daniel Radcliff is playing the part of Jack Kipling, so everything Mr. ShaneVicious said is valid. If you want to hack at someone, start with the Muppet who posted this clip and called it the Somme.
@@exJacktar no worries buddy, daddies got ya.
@@zaphodbeeblebrox9109 then all my worries are over. Phew. Thanks for saving the day, once again.
@@exJacktar Not all of them. But if you ever need to tell the difference between a film and real life, im your man!
Disclaimer: Congrats to your son, and i mean no disrespect to actors, or war heros.
100 Years ago today.
RIP All soldiers who died for King and Country.
The great patriotic war.
And many were freely prepared to do so.
Not as eager for that point than to defend their families. But Britain was extremely patriotic at this time and people would have felt it as their duty as a man to fight for the British Empire.
Women on the streets of Britain handed out White Feathers to fighting age males who had not joined the Army to brand them as cowards. In order to avoid this shame many would have enlisted.
Of course.
99% of comments “Yer a Wizard ‘Arry”
Thank you Harry Potter for battling the army of Kaiser Voldemort
Heartbreaking scene, RIP those brave souls who actually went over the top all those years ago.
To think my great granfarther was sent into that wall of bullets for 4 years and not a single injury. I think that was luck
tankmanmatt111 My great grandfather fought along side yours then, he was in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers and managed to lose his thumb but went back in a couple of weeks. He also fought in Greece, Italy, Turkey and Egypt. The Royal Dublin Fusiliers were also sadly not recognized and forgotten by the Irish till recently due to the whole thing with Britain and Ireland
tankmanmatt111 He was probably mindfucked though.
tankmanmatt111 One of my relatives was killed in the war as was one of my friends great grandfather. I think yours was very lucky, very, very lucky.
ThaDerpyMuffin hackers everywhere..
What a hacker...
This isn’t the Somme. It’s a depiction of the the Irish Guards attack during the Battle of Loos in 1915. A dead giveaway is that no one is wearing a helmet which were not issued until April 1916. By the time of the Somme in July 1916, everyone wore a tin hat.
My grandfather and his three brothers fought at Ypres, the Somme and several others.
Amazing thing was that each one of them came home afterwards and went on to live full lives. There would have been many families that would have lost all their boys.
Indeed..and their young lads had a hard time and KIA in WW2. WW 1 11KIa WW2 9 KIA .just one male left in 1945 may.
He went to Korea.🏴
🏴🏴
Mein Urgroßvater kämpfte am 20. September. 1916 an der Somme bei Rancourt und wurde verwundet, seine drei Brüder kamen auch alle aus dem Krieg nach Hause und hatten viele Nachkommen, alle waren Farmer an der Dänischen Grenze, die nächste Generation hat es 1944-45 sehr hart getroffen, viele sind in Russlands Erde geblieben!
Those poor men, that last minute must have seemed like an eternity before they went over the top, that horrible wait while their minds ran riot thinking of what might happen in the next few minutes.
I had a relative that fought at the Somme, he was one of the few lucky ones that made it home but was horribly effected by shell shock afterwards, apparently even the sound of a thunderstorm was enough to trigger his memories. R.I.P to all those who gave their lives for their country.
I hate that expression "gave their lives for their country". Who actually ever wants to die such a horrible death. As if they had a choice.
I'm definitely not in the position to make judgements from my comfy sofa, but I guess when you realize the inevitability of something (you're already here, and you can't run, go back) you some sort of accept your fate, and it becomes not as scary as it seems for sofa-enjoyers like me. (Still, they perfectly knew it's almost 100% death run, and no human being would say he's not afraid in such a situation).
Each one seriously felt they could weave through that carnage unscathed.
@@homoerectus744
oh bullshit
Mine died first day from wounds
By 1916, all British army personal wore helmets.
Fellow Scott
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Cuz this was actually about a different battle in 1915
and they were as effective as the regimental flat caps at deflecting bullets
@@whitetroutchannel They were meant to stop artillery shrapnel, not direct rifle and machine gun rounds. They saved a lot of troops from head wounds that would have otherwise been fatal.
This isn’t the Somme, it’s the Battle of Loos, September 1915
This is the movie about Kipling's son and he didn't die on the Somme, he died at Loos a year earlier. Life expectancy of a subaltern in the trenches was 41 days, in the Flying Corps it was 11 days, he didn't have the eyesight to meet army standards, so it was Kipling's fault he was there.
He also died screaming with his jaw blown off for his mother
Yes whoever made this video got the title wrong about the battle. In the actual movie it’s very clearly Loos and not the Somme.
"Your magic, not bullet proof Harry. " -Hermoine's last owl to Potter.
What the hell is Harry potter doing in WW1 trench?
chlar hes left tent
O_o ok..............
Ok
Never drink and time turn who knows where you'll end up.
lol wtf? At least we have one desultory comment.
Holy shit! They shot Harry Potter! The German Imperial Army managed to do what Voldemort failed so many times at! Score one for the Reichswer!
Which makes Amon Goeth's decision to play Voldemort all the more ironic.
The "Reichswehr" (note the spelling) were the armed forces of the Weimar Republic from 1919 and into the Nazi period, I think 1935, when the name was changed to "Wehrmacht". The German forces during World War One were the "Kaiserliches Heer" ("Imperial Army") and "Kaiserliche Marine" ("Imperial Navy"). So you are right about what the Imperial Army did, but we shouldn't score one for the Reichswehr here.
fail
To be fair, if Voldemort had a Maxim gun then he probably would have found more success
@@TheWineGuy101 Voldemort is too close minded to bother with muggle weapons.
Now I'm surprised Harry and Hermione didn't try to use guns as a more efficient way to deal with death eaters.
My grandfather was an ambulance driver in WW1. He must have seen the horrible results of battle over and over again. He lost part of a foot to frostbite and had a cutting edge surgery of the time that allowed him to walk. He was a hard man.
They shall forever be young.
Harry couldn't use any deflection spells?
Ik I was like," sooo Harry Potter traveled back in time to be a soldier lol"
Happy WAYS 1. He doesn't have a wand.
2. The spell probably isn't intended to stop 600 bullets a minute.
3. You try saying the magic words properly when bullets are flying past you.
360Nomad Just stfu.
360Nomad you must be fun parties
Happy WAYS I am when I'm drunk.
They should have drafted Hagrid instead...
Mario Cassina ...hahaha thx for the laugh
As a human shield.
He’s a walking talking brick wall
Hagrid died in Ypres.
Love the detail of checking the watch for when to attack. Really points out the fact that this was fully industrialized, scheduled warfare. A literal War Machine.
They had to wait for the wave of shelling to finish, but not wait long enough for the Germans to come out from hunkering down. Without radios, they had to go by a precise schedule. A ten-minute delay at the Somme was disastrous because the Germans had time to get their machine guns in place 😢
Rudyard Kipling's only son is the officer. He had poor eyesight and was initially rejected by the army, but his dad pulled strings to get him accepted. He wanted to "do his bit." The old lie eh, "dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori." Sweet and fitting my arse.
Rest in peace great grandfather
???
@@henryvkingofenglandandfran7220 his great grandfather died in battle
@@dougie5073 same. lest we forget them
Mine made it through the entire war, even the Somme. He was badly gassed once but he survived.
He, and those like him, were called 'Kaiser-Antagonisers' :-)
God rest your Great Grandfather's brave soul, Brother; and my Great Grandfather's ; and all the other souls of all of the BRAVE men who faced...... Lord knows what they faced...... they faced death. We honour them.
Nothing fair about going over the top straight into machine-gun fire and exploding shells, these young lads had no chance, 92 % died or was injured beyond help. This was complete criminal from the generals towards their own soldiers. If they ask you today to cross a football field from one goal towards the other goal in a straight line with 4 machine-guns mowing everything down and they say to you you have 100 million pounds if you make it to the other side. Would you be insane enough to try it ? I guess not. But the young British, Canadian, Australian, N-Zealand boys who fought in France and Belgium had no choice or were shot by there own. While the generals were far away from danger in their chateau. Just criminal, insane. I have the most respect for those who fought, died or get injured or even returned without any injury. Those who were there saw the horror (bloodshed, body parts ripped off etc)of trench warfare with all the other misery around (trench feet, lice, shell shock, rats, rain and mud). Most of the young dying lads cried for their mum,( this is not why she had put him on this world). Many are in a nameless grave or even buried somewhere at the battlefields without any indication of their presence.
Hope the leaders of today and tomorrow never make this mistake again.
We dont know for sure they where executed
+THthefirst To be honest, I never saw it but because you wrote about it I looked it up in wikipedia and the fourth series are set in 1917 on the Western Front in the trenches of the First WW. I will try to look to it if I can find it somewhere.
You have to remember these tactics theses armies used worked for 200 years, its just the pace of tech and industry completly overturned how wars were fought, like the tactics used by the end of ww1 are still used today ie combined arms ect
+Black Fox
I saw one inter view where they where talking to a Japanese ex solder and he said that dyeing Japanese solders would cry for there mothers also as they laid there dyeing heard some place all men will do that hoping there mothers will make them well once more . was that way in Vietnam also : (
+Black Fox no argument here
War is horrible, WW1 must have been hell on Earth for those young lads when they went over the top. Our local war memorial has one brave soldiers name on from Afghanistan, 32 from WW2 and 80 from WW1. I can't imagine what it was like back then losing 80 young men from one small village. I salute and thank them all for making the ultimate sacrifice for the freedom of our country.
War is hell. Rather use talks and reason to solve the problems. Look at Ukraine and Russia. All the pain and sadness, not only for Ukraine but all humanity. Watching it makes me cry. May God bring an end to this madness. South Africa
i understand that it must be scary to go over the top. But during the Somme first wave soldiers were pretty confident and thought it was going to be easy since there was a massive shelling.
+Alex fatgee Honestly, I kind of doubt that first wave felt an overwhelming sense of bravery. A lot of those guys outright knew they were more than likely not coming back. Some of the letters written during the war about life in the trenches reflect that. Going out of those trenches onto the battlefield was a death sentence. Reminds me a lot of the trench warfare in the American Civil War during the late war. Union soldiers felt the same way hurdling into Confederate trenches.
This isn't even the Somme it's loose
+Charlie Fillingham then tighten it up
Alex fatgee all soldiers were confident because there superiors told them nothing could have lived through the barrage which is why they walked over no mans land to the enemy.
Ya, one of the first waves even had a footballer in the unit and punted one into no mans land and the Pals followed after it. The were fairly confident. They didn’t expect much resistance.
Battlefield 1 pre-alpha footage
haahah
+Patrick Pingol battlefield should be realistic
No friend.
More like verdun footage that games awesome and realistic
+Patrick Pingol Bf1 looks nothing like Bf4, are you on crack?
Such bravery and heroism shown by those courageous men.
When the French army mutinied pity all the others did not join them, my grandfather was a stretcher bearer he went back for an officer under withering fire.
He was awarded the second highest award, a German officer spoke of his gallantry, he went through the war without a scratch only to die of miners lung.
When I see films like this I feel so sad not only for my grandfather , but all the soldiers that went through what must have been a truly horrific war.
Stretcher bearers were very brave men
Actually, Jack Ripling's death was more gruesome.The official report stated that a shell blew his face off.
Poor kid
There remains no definite evidence that proves his cause of death. He was last seen attacking a German position, possibly with a head injury. He was confirmed to have died around 3 miles away from where he was believed to have died
Fight on boys. We will never forget.
We must never forget
NEVER FORGET THE ONES WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE BY TAKING UP ARMS TO FIGHT AND GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR OUR PRESENT FREE RIGHTS ETC AS SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL ONCE SAID DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR “ NEVER WAS SO MUCH OWED BY SO MANY TO SO FEW “ WHICH REFERRED TO ALL OF THE ARMED FORCES AIR, LAND AND SEA AND THE RISKS THEY WERE FACING ONCE DEPLOYED TO PROTECT THEIR HOMELANDS ETC
But sadly human will forget… And the history will repeat…..
An excellent novel on the Somme is 'Covenant with Death' by John Harris. Yeah, it's fiction but still heartbreaking.
Yes read it many years ago it makes excellent reading.
Best novel about the First World War, based on the 12th York and Lancaster Regiment, the Sheffield City Battalion.
Brilliant book!
Read years ago.
RSM Bold was one of the main characters, I remember,
and was killed.
Not a book for the squeamish!
just imagine the gut wrenching feeling that the last thing they'll ever hear was the trench whistle over the deafening roar of artillery must have brought to the poor souls.
WW1 is *truly* the definition of hell on Earth due to constant artillery barrages that lasted if not hours, days or even weeks and other atrocious tactics like the usage of mustard gas on enemy entrenchments.
this isn't meant to downplay the horrors of WW2 but there will *never* be a war as hellish nor as brutal as The Great War
??? Why you not compare between gas and nuclear???
@@akuganteng790 death by mustard gas is a slow painful experience. I’d rather be atomised in the blink of an eye than endure that.
John Kipling died in the Battle of Loos in 1915, not the Somme.
+TaZ101SAGA Well, this isn't the Somme at all, they're all wearing cloth caps...
B&A Gaming Yes, that's what I said.
+B&A Gaming and it's raining, didn't rain on the first day of the Somme.
+MrRabioza
Correct, the first day of The Somme Offensive was a sunny and hot day with birds singing. It might've rained later during that offensive (it lasted months if I recall), but they would've worn steel helmets then.
by the way, this was supposed to be John Kipling at the battle of Loos, not the Somme. sadly he was killed here.
Irish Guards. All volunteers. Not one of them needed to be there. Vast majority of then pious Catholics. Loyal to King and country (their country being Ireland rather than England). Quis Separabit. Who will separate us. They didn't blubber. They said their prayers and then went over the top. Great men. Rest in peace. Young Kipling was honoured to lead a platoon of such men.
I swear the guy at 00:26 is in every single ww1 or ww2 movie
The officers that thought and died along side their fellow soldiers have my respect. They are what I call the heroic officers and not the cowardly generals sitting miles away from the fighting.
Matt Wordsworth, perhaps you should look up the number of general officers who became casualties, it might surprise you.
My grandfather survived the somme borne cookstown county tyrone 1874 was over 40yrs old when he went over the top 36th Ulster division out of 700 men 630 were killed in his battalion or unit !!! Would visit him at foster greens hospital in hollywood county down died aged 98 did not have children till he was in his fifties !
@@johncheevers2050 630 out of 700 killed would not be correct, that figure would be casualties, i.e. killed, wounded, prisoner or war and missing. It's surprising how many people think casualties means killed.
Which regiment was your grandfather serving in? Martin Middlebrook, in his book The First Day On The Somme, gives a list of battalions that had over 500 casualties. There are three from the 36th (Ulster) Division, the 13th Royal Irish Rifles, (Co. Down), 595 casualties, the 11th Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (Donegal and Fermanagh), 589 casualties and 9th Royal Irish Rifles (Co. Armagh, Monaghan and Cavan), 532 casualties.
@@rogueriderhood1862 36th Ulster division he served in I can say I've been in the presence of a whole ward of somme survivors foster grey hospital count down !! Infact ian paisley buried my grandfather from our house 44 southport st oldpark road north belfast his name andrew cheevers
@@rogueriderhood1862 also many of those generals had high awards for bravery from their days as junior officers.
This remake of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows is brutal as fuck
0:49 Thank you sir Potter...
My Boy Jack is a 2007 British biographical television film based on David Haig's 1997 play of the same name for ITV. It was filmed in August 2007, with Haig as Rudyard Kipling and Daniel Radcliffe as John Kipling. [from Wikipedia]
I visited the remains of these trenches on a field trip when I was in the army, to see the graves row apon row and trench apon trench I honestly can say the only way I can explain the atmosphere standing there is "speachless" lest we forget. they gave their today for our tomorrow at the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them 👍
They did not. 1st WW was a pointless war
@@tubarao1143 Any war that is purely political is pointless. Basically 90% of all wars from the middle ages to now. Hell, even the remaining 10% are often filled with so much political non sense that it almost renders them pointless as well.
i visited aswell in basic training 2006
their today for our tomorrow......
cheap rhetoric
what blody tomorrow ? I cant believe that there are still idiots who think that in WW1 one side was more right than another one. They should have left Austria to deal with serbian terrorists and everything would be fine
This wasn't the Somme
Jack Kipling died in the Battle of Loos, 1915
So this scene is likely the First Battle of Arras or Loos
It is the battle of Loose
It is the Battle of Loos
Plus their wearing early war uniforms.
Centrist Philosopher plus the Somme was fought in broad daylight
I was wondering where their helmets were!!! thanks
The epitome of duty. It is a noble thing to give one’s life for King and Country.
One minute you are alive the next minute you are dead . Does society even remember the sacrifice of these soldiers today . May their souls RIP .
Was the officer Daniel Radcliffe?
Guns1110 yep
Paulanthony Green No, this was not a war about freedom, this was pointless.
Ed Radil it's WW1... there's not many other ways to go than straight into machine gun fire.
Ed Radil that actually happen though, they really did just send wave after wave to die.
Guns1110 yes
This is from a PBS masterpiece classic on "My Boy Jack" by Rudyard Kipling. Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) is portraying Kipling's son Jack who was killed in WWI at the Battle of Loos in 1915. I remember seeing this some years ago. This isn't the battle of the Somme, which came a year later.
This really is an incredible piece of cinema. It brings home the true horrors.
Brilliant tactics, blow a whistle first let them know we're coming 🤔 bloody Generals , let them and politicians go over r the top first! 😠😡🤬
Sending men over the top was a ridiculous tactic. waste of many lives for nearly no gain.
So what tactics do you expect the generals to follow? Considering the technology at the time there is not a lot they could do except bombard the enemy lines with artillery and to just send the men in to charge. They literally had no other options avaliable to them. What would you do if you were in their position?
To clarify I agree with your point that it was a waste of lives and there was little gain I'm just trying to justify the action of the generals in regard to going over the top. Both sides tryed desperatly to break the stalemate and make the war a mobile war again, however it was to no avail and the generals had no choice but to send them over the top, it wasn't a rediculous tactic, it was the only tactic.
George Cowan
Yes you right.
There were no armoured personal carriers, shoulder launched Javelin missiles or RAF laser guided airstrikes in those days.
Going over the top after an artillery barrage was about all they could do.
Those men were Bloody well as brave as Lions!
George Cowan The Germans were busy perfecting manuever warfare, and a lot of current doctrine on the topic originated from their officer's reports after the war. In a way you are right, there were no other options available to the British- but not because of lack of technology, but rather because they were not taught the methods of infiltration and asymmetrical warfare. The Japanese in WWII started by using human wave attacks, but quickly adapted and began using maneuver warfare. The British line officers were not permitted to "adapt."
Obviously you know a lot more than me on the topic, where my knowlage only comes around because of a bit of dabbeling. It's quite interesting how the British weren't allowed to adapt, do you have any reason to why that is?
Here_Pep_Pep
In the WW1 timeline, the Germans maybe "got stuck in" a bit more in the form of Stosstruppen (shock troops) what with the flamethrower teams and men armed with the rapid firing MP-18!
I don't know if we British deployed similar units?
I take it you have already been told that this scene is from the Battle of Loos 1915! It is the story of Rudyard Kiplin's son who died at the battle of Loos. My cousin Herbert Parker also died in that battle. His body was not found. One of the 1000's who was unidentified, may be even not found, after the bloodlust that was Trench warfare in The Great War! Not the Somme but Loos, and it is time we started to remember that it was not just The Somme that took Allied lives but Loos, Verdun, the three battles of Ypres and many more. And lets not forget the Germans who too were sent to the slaughter by their leaders too!
Harry was already battle hardened after his time at Hogwarts.
The problem wasn’t the machine guns or gas or artillery. The issue was the men that went over the top moved to slow because of they massive balls they had to carry.
This in fact is intended to depict the death of Lieutenant Kipling at the Battle of Loos in 1915.
Nice 1 Harry blow the whistle so they know your coming.
I know right... stupid... but it was how they did it... both side
Well they had to let the all the soldiers know when to charge, the trench wasnt just 10 meters long.. it went on for miles, there were milloins of troops on both sides
I think that the hours-long artillery barrage that preceded just about every charge across no-man's land was warning enough.
Yeah, because you can hear a whistle through rain from across trenches? also the massive artillery battery and then the sudden silence would have been notification enough.
dazhibernian that’s what they did to signal like he wouldn’t shout charge for a mile of soilders to go over
My grandfather (Harry Ludford) fought this and many other battles as a member of the 26 New Brunswick Regiment (Canadian Expeditionary). He was one of the few originals who returned in 1919 after sailing from Saint John in June 1915. In 1901, he and his 2 siblings were shipped from Birmingham UK to New Brunswick as part of the British home Children. He must have liked wars, because he did it all over again in WW2. In WW1 he was shot in both legs by machine gun fire in a March 1916 skirmish. Good thing that the aim wasn't higher or I would not be writing this. No wonder he was moody - can't blame him. I only knew him for 12 years before he died in 1964 age 72. He was a survivor and someone I wish I got to know better. To me, I never heard him say a word about his past. One good memory I have of him was showing me how to load and shoot his 3:03 rifle circa 1960.
My great grandfather Johann Schweizer joined the German army in 1915. He went through the Somme battle as member of Infanterieregiment no. 169. They had to defend the remains of the village of Serre on July 1st. 1916. The area was attacked by the so called Accrington Pals Battalion which suffered terrible losses on that day. He survived the Somme battle unharmed but was severely wounded in early 1918, spent 9 months on hospital and passed away in 1974 when I was 4 years old.
All going men fighting because they had to. If you can, read Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger. He served and fought throughout the War. Try to get an early copy as it was edited in later years.
It was the Battle of Loos 1915 and tells the story of Rudyard Kipling's son Jack who was killed there. Notice the soft hats worn and it wasn't until 1916 tin hats were introduced.
Always amazed at the bravery of those men.
I'm so grateful for not being born in that timeframe and having to endure that madness.
Unfortunately, as it is with every conflict, young men get drawn by the sense of adventure and nationalist pride .WW1 was no different. In fact, it was probably an excuse for a lot of young men to escape their low paid jobs and find real 'adventure ' .In the UK, there was no need for the British government to force through a conscription act as hundreds of thousands flocked to the armed forces, even those who legally underage were permitted to join .
My grandfather fought in the Somme. He was a junior officer. I have his whistle.
At the northern end of the Somme battle front many troops hardly got out of the trenches before being gunned down, while divisions at the southern end of the front made excellent progress and achieved their allotted objectives well ahead of time. This was a historic battle, film makers should try to tell the story, show the events. Results of the various attacks made along the front line, on the first day of the Somme, (a 15 mile front) were very mixed and very confusing until they were properly analyzed. Haigh believed he had achieved a victory, but then change his entire strategy from a breakthrough offensive to a battle of attrition. At the end of the battle both sides had lost over 400,000 casualties. The Germans retreated over fifty miles because they lacked the man power to man the salient upon which the Somme River was a part of that line. The British general staff believed the operation to have been a success, others disagreed!
the Somme Offensive went on for months. My granduncle was lost at Ginchy in September and was classed as a Somme casualty.
400,000 casualties to win a few square miles of wasteland? That's the war in a nutshell. The high brass had no idea how to deal with modern rapid fire artillery & machine guns. Churchill was one of the few willing to think outside the box.
@@Caseytify tactics did evolve dramatically as the war progressed. By 1918 the British army was a finely honed instrument which broke the Hindenburg line and would have driven the German army out of Flanders and into Germany. One of the biggest mistakes I think made was to accept an armistice. The Germans should have been told only unconditional surrender will be accepted. But to answer your point the British High Command fully understood machine guns and modern artillery. They just accepted that high casualties attacking complex defence systems was inevitable. When the ‘snatch and hold’ tactic was introduced in 1917 the advances of the British army became permanent and meaningful. The destruction of the Kaiser’s last big offensive in March-April 1918 showed the tenacity and professionalism of the British army. The 1918 German offensive was bold and massive, it caught the allies off guard, but we quickly reacted to it, brought it to a halt and the drove back the German army. Thereafter total defeat for Germany was a matter of time. The decision to accept an armistice in November 1918 allowed the Germans to paint a false narrative of ‘betrayal’ and ‘stolen’ victory which could only be resolved in 1939-1945. If we had achieved total victory in 1918-1919 it would have been impossible to claim anything other than total defeat.
@@grahamcampbell8297 Haigh used soldiers as cannon fodder to gain a yard. The lives lost did weigh heavily on him,despite this he continued to force them into the same meat grinder without change.
As for the armistice. More killing on both sides would helped no one. The terms forced on Germany were hellish enough and they caused WW2.
@@michaelbevan3285 four months, the Somme offensive was ended in early November 1916.
note to self dont charge Machine guns
Turbukolos McTurbukolos But you might get shot by a friend for turning back though.
i see the agony of choice . shoot me for be cowerd then a least dont have go over the top se my frends die
Turbukolos McTurbukolos Did they have any choice? That or get the firing squad. All those soldiers were dead men walking.
Well the tactic of over running your enemy with vast numbers may not be the best tactic but it still works
Artillery was the biggest killer not machine guns.
I’m just watching TF2 Demoman memes and this just sorta happens for some reason.
Как хорошо сыграна сцена подготовки к штыковой атаке.На лицах солдат растерянность, страх смерти, ужас. Где-то я читал, что самое тяжёлое на войне - это победить в себе страх. Полностью согласен с этим.
I respect that officer for he kept pushing. He did exactly what he expected of his men and was persistent and not a coward
What would you define as cowardness in a war as brutal as this?
He was a naive suicidal fool.
That officer was John Kipling, who this movie is based on. He went missing during the battle of Loos and was last reported attacking a German position with a possible head injury. He was discovered to have died during the battle
@@meiser5198 That was good to read. Thank you.
@@xxuncexx John Kipling was also the son of Rudyard Kipling, author of The Jungle Book
This isn't the Somme, This is the Battle of Loos. It was a bright sunny day on the firsts day of the Somme.
The last minute….the soldiers minute. As quick as the blink of an eye, and as long as a lifetime.
This ain’t The Somme, this is the Battle of Loos, late summer to early autumn 1915.
Movie is “My Boy Jack” (2007), sabout Rudyard Kipling (famous poet, author of The Jungle Book, fervent nationalist and celebrated English writer) encouraging his son to go to war and what comes of that.
That officer was by far the hardest man to wear glasses
What did you mean to imply? Are men with glasses not hard?
Warfare that horrific will never happen again thankfully. On the very first day at the Somme the British suffered over 60 THOUSAND killed in just a matter of hours. That's a slaughter on a scale too great to imagine.
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Oh, I thought it was much more than that. Still, as you said that's a LOT of deaths in just one day.
You say that, however, if WWIII happens, millions will be dead in seconds. Let's pray humanity learns. Oh wait. We're still killing. Humanity will never learn
TheGamingWolf
Well that's true, but a nuclear war is an entirely different kind of warfare. There is no face to face, hand to hand struggle to the death with your enemy when all you have to do is push a button. Nukes may be the most destructive weapon ever devised, but they are certainly NOT the most brutal. These men during World War I were slaughtering each other and looking one another in the eyes as they strangled, stabbed, clubbed, and shot each other to death with any weapon they could lay hands on in the most appalling conditions imaginable. I think that is much worse.
Commander Shepherd Holy shit
+Commander Shepherd I don't know, the Iran-Iraq war lasted from 1980 to 1988 and kept up this exact type of warfare for that entire time. It also depends on what you mean by horrific. More people were killed and wounded in the second world war, especially civilians as cities were targeted. Who knows? warfare in the future might involve one side made up entirely of drones just exterminating entire nations.
Still living memory. My great grandfather spoke of this.
What did the British army think would happen, sending their soldiers headlong into machinegun fire? 20,000 killed at the Somme. A generation completly lost, needlessly by the incompetence of the top brass.
Did harry potter get drafted and become a british nco
Mr Potter became a CO not an NCO. What a twist!
In WW1, subalterns (junior COs) let the charges over the top.
NCOs are sergeants
beavis He would have been a 2nd Lt Irish Gauards .He was portraying the son Rudyard Kipling..(my boy jack )
Olga
When ya hear that bloody whistle... you're goin' to your doom.
That akward moment where Harry Potter looks like Himmler
John Kipling died on Sept 27, 1915 in the Battle of Loos, not on the Somme, weeks after arriving in France. He had just passed his eighteenth birthday. His body was only identified in 2016.
God dammit Harry, use your invisibility cloak!
The Somme was a bloodbath. The battle was in responce to relieve the German attack on the French at Verdun which in itself was a worse bloodbath. A lot of that battlefield is still off limits to the public.
Henerymag - At last somebody who's done a little research.
i dont see it. is it those 2 silhouettes on the far right side of the screen in the distance? i dont even think those are hands i think they are cloth. correct me if wrong pls.
These true brave soldiers died for nothing! Look at this world Today?
Brave brave Men. God bless each and everyone who Never came Home Lest We Forget
When you graduate Hogwarts only to realize it gave you no qualifications for a job and are forced to join the army.
Why didn't dan just use some spells
Lol
Gle N he should of to bring you there in 1916 to see how the funny you realy are!
Gle N ww1 wasn't a great thing so many lives lost in 1 day over 20k men lost in the Somme by the UK
No 50000 on the first day
Charlie Fillingham bloodiest day in the history of the British Army.
This is not the Somme. It is the battle of Loos from My boy Jack.
Imagine surviving all the that war had to offer and then going over the top to then make it 20 feet what an fucking stupid war that was massive respect to all sides that fought and the civilians who lost loved ones