The CIA was so much fun! I went because of the structure. The whole thing was a challenge and it was something different everyday. We had parties in the dorms, we went off campus to town or up to Rhinebeck, took the train to the city, drove to New Paltz…there is plenty to do. After attending a regular state school and then going to CIA, I would choose CIA over and over. Plus, they are trying to prepare you for the demands of our business. You can’t just skip work in a restaurant or hotel when you don’t feel like going or else you’ll soon find yourself unemployed. This place used to weed out those that couldn’t hack it, though it has become far less strict in recent years in order to keep up with other chain schools. Still in my opinion, if you’re going to take the plunge and go to a culinary school, treat it like it’s already your career, be serious about it, and go to the best school you can.
**Thankyou for making this video, I added a few things I hope you don't mind. The first few just added to the video, the bulk of my comments are for the current and future CIA students.** Nobody planning a career in foodservice should complain about long hours. AM pantry for me started at 3am..I graduated in 2000. So far you're pretty accurate. To add to dress code, no facial hair except a mustache...yeah...no piercings, you'll get sent home if your whites are wrinkled. Sanitation is long, boring, dry and absolutely required. If you blow of sanitation, you shouldn't be in a kitchen, ever. The instructors at the CIA are all different. Some are amazing, some aren't, a few are a$$-holes, those are some of your best as well so don't forget it. Take them seriously, if they ask you to do some work outside, SAY YES. many of these Instructors are legends, some are CMC's. Learn everything you can from them. Keep your shoes polished, whites always white, starched and pressed. If you don't know how to iron, youtube before you start classes. Invest in hangers, keep your whites pristine. Invest in kitchen shoes: non slip sole, the must be comfortable at hour 1 and hour 12+. If they hurt, get new shoes and dont go cheap. Your future self thanks you. The brewpub up route 9 is a wonderful place and their cheddar cheese soup is legendary, I hope they are still in business. One of our greatest presidents lived in Hyde Park, go visit him, of course the one and only...FDR. There was a drive in on the right side wed drive a pickup truck and our kitchen chairs to see a double feature. If we drank too much we were a stones through from our crappy apartment. There are parties but off campus. There's some sh***y clubs in Poughkeepsie, I wouldn't recommend. New Paltz across the river was a cool place to go out. Cabaloosa if it's still there will likely still have Grateful Dead night. The acceptance rate is WAY too high, my generation had to have actual experience on foodservice, letters of recommendation from your past chefs etc. That slowly went away and you see how it affects graduation rate. It's expensive yes. If you go and f**k off, good job, you wasted a ton of money. If you work hard, grab as much information as you possibly can while you're there, it goes quick but you'll graduate with some actual skills. **Most Important** After you graduate, don't think for a second that you are a chef. Don't have an attitude because you "went to the CIA you're better than XYZ." You're not better than anyone anywhere. CIA grads and even externs go out with an attitude sometimes, not all of course but enough to warrant a comment from me. Drop it. It will only do harm, so if you think you may have a little ego, drop it immediately. When you earn 3 stars from Michelin, then we'll talk about a little bit of ego, until then, you are pond scum! Remember, there are dishwashers, who will do your job faster, better and cheaper than you so don't give someone reason to not like you. And ALWAYS take care of your dishwashers. Before service, make sure they eat, even if you don't have time, drop off pitchers of the soft drinks they like. Beers after work even better. Offer your cigarettes, when A Toilet explodes the most horrifying substance you've ever seen, they will be the ones going to battle, but if you're a d**che-bag, you might be going in there in their place... Not saying kiss anyone's a$s, but they were the lowest on the totem poll but now you are. If dishwashers don't like you, trust me they will be in someone's ear and you will go before they do. Just Remember this... You Are NOT A CHEF. Aspiring Culinarian? Ok, sure, but Chef? NO WAY. That's a title you need to earn and not a school on Earth can grant that title. The title of "Chef" is earned in the field. Putting your time in the trenches until you one day command a brigade of your own. Until that day, don't ever call yourself a chef. You are NOT A CHEF. You are a cook, which is a noble term, if you want to be a chef, you're going to have to earn it. A CIA diploma doesn't mean sh**. Your resume...doesn't mean sh**. You can bs your way through school and resumes quite easily. The only thing that matters is "Can you cook in a commercial kitchen?" That's it. A wiseman once said "Don't Sing it, Bring it". Don't tell me how great you are, let greatness speak for itself and you just keep your mouth shut. Good luck.
I feel that time management is a huge part to attending this school. After 14 years in the Marine Corps, I will be attending this school and it sound just like my school haha. No parties just learning. All I need. Thank you for sharing. Helped out!
Thank you sooooo much. I've been having a hard time finding testimonials from baking and pastry students. I start in the fall at greystone and would love to see a part 2 with more info on the program itself and your personal experiences. Maybe you could share what the workload is like or what your favorite/least favorite classes are like? Thank you so much for any additional info!
Great video! It brought back many memories. Back when I first applied in 1984, there was a 2 year wait after you were approved, I started in Fall 1986. Back then there was only 1 degree you could get, A.O.S. Also, that seems like a lot of dropouts, I only knew of a handful people that quit or failed out, only 3 (that I remember) from my group of 72. Also you would get sent home if your uniform was incomplete, dirty or if you weren't clean shaven. And any chef passing you in the hall could make you go and change or shave but you had to come back to finish the class. Parties were allowed back then but you would have to be wary of the people in your dorm that had to be up at 3 a.m. for pantry class. And we would bring kegs down by the RR tracks, also we had a bar on campus, so I guess those were the good old days. Is Lake Veloute still there? I haven't been back to campus since probably before you were born in maybe, 1999 or 2000.
Aye I'm starting in the fall for baking and pastry arts. I'm glad this was recommended to me. A lot of the teachers I talk to dont really dig into details.
The CIA is showing you what the real culinary world looks like. 4 am getting ready for breakfast, 8 - 10 hour day. Loved the Am shift. Best choice I ever made. Yes chef, no chef. You need to shut your mouth listen and absorb it all. Class of Oct 97.
yes!! exactly and that's what i love about the school!! wasn't trying to sound rude in the video at all, just trying to get my point across to people that don't know:)
This video was super helpful and entertaining (that sneeze haha)! Videos like these are very much needed, because the CIA itself will (understandably) only post videos that show off all the great things about their school, and skip over the rough stuff. I've always wondered about the "one-upping" thing, because I know people come into the school with different levels of experience and different backgrounds and different ways of doing things. Oh and thanks for clarifying the dress code rules. With any luck, I'll soon be attending the Hyde Park NY branch for a Bachelors in Baking and Pastry Management :).
Im just a sophmore in highschool but im seriously looking forward to try and go to CIA i want to start my own business still havent really decided if its going to be a bakery or a restaurant right now im just testing my skills to see which one of the two im better at 😂 i enjoy both so much. Im going to have to work hard to reach my goals!
Ohh that's cool, I'm still in the second year of high school, and I'm thinking a lot about doing Culinary arts, then doing pastry at Cia and I needed someone to explain to me how the day to day really is😇😇😇
That is what a true art school is like. Hard discipline. You show up for class and do the assignments. You take the harsh critique of your work from fellows students who rip you apart. (You do the same when it’s your turn.) The art teachers would say: ‘your clients will never be as harsh. Use the critique to learn and to improve. Always continue to learn. Art is organic. It grows and changes.’ You cut classes. You do not do the work. You never try to improve. Choose another field.
I went to Institut Paul Bocuse and it sounds exactly the same, but we definitely partied when we could, and the academic side was fucking hard. You were also expected to rent your own place. Got through 2 years and 1 internship but didn't make it in the end - I didn't do well on the theory side of things and I just underperformed so they kicked me out. I thought it was harsh them not giving me a second chance but shit happens. I've been working in restaurants since, but I haven't got a degree - hasn't stopped me from finding work in kitchens but I think I still want a degree you know. Hope your experience is better but it must be hard with Covid. Great video! Good luck!
@@cadenrenner1429 well they didn't get it through their thick heads. I defended myself. Half of the chefs, they aren't really chefs, they are instructors. It's sad really.
Ok so, lately I have been seeing some more pretty shitty reviews about CIA and their staff and other students from students and it’s making me second guess going there. Is it worth it honestly like all that money…Bc I know there’s some other culinary school in NY but just wondering
oh noo, really was just trying to help. sorry if I was talking in a negative tone, honestly was just tired. but my other CIA videos give some more info that could help maybe!!
2004 bachelor Culinary alumni here, when I was there AM pantry started at 2 am. You mentioned there is no summer vacations, but you forgot to mention no spring vacation and once in a while there are Saturday classes. When you mentioned people being stuck up I think you were more so looking for that that everyone is egotistical, which is very true. Really the number of overblown egos there is the reason why I left New York State after graduation.
I wish I could say I had a great time at the CIA but from start to finish I didn’t. I dropped out of after one year- I didn’t even see the inside of a kitchen. The idea that I who had been there for a year had less priority on classes than someone who had just arrived makes no sense and still baffles me. My academic advisor doesn’t respond to any emails by me. That’s just scratching the surface; I have so many horror stories. I really wanted to love it but, the CIA lives off a name purely.
thank you so much I'm a freshman in high school and Ive been debating between CIA and ICE to go to for future schooling you are the person that has shared the best info so far (that I've found) this helps so much :)
hey i am deciding between the two as well. Did you end up going to either of them? If so which one and why that one opposed to the other one? Lastly, do you regret it?
As a grad from 12 yrs ago things have really changed lol hope u make it all the way thru... Most people don't end up comeing back from extern... Half my class did not show up to. Finish
Nice video! The points you made are so true! Especially with the professionalism! I think you and I enrolled the same time (September 2019?) I’m in the Culinary Arts program for Food Business Management. I also see the point about one-upping people... a lot of competition...
i’m 15 and cia is my dream school. i’ve been baking/cooking since i was 6 so i’m decently experienced and know a little about food. do i have to have certain knife skills or whatever before we go there or are there specific things i could work on now so i’m better prepared?
Elena and Megan hi! I’m 13, also want to go to cia😊 I assume you should have some knife skills but if you’re super into cooking and baking like me you’ve probably learned knife skills countless times. I know I’ve done knife skills like 30 times😅. yeah I guess you should prob just have experience but idk. I also am a super young 8th grader so I don’t turn 18 until I’m in college so I might have to get like an internship cuz I can’t get a job with my age before college. I think what’s best is just to cook and bake often and enjoy being in the kitchen, and immerse yourself in cultures and foods. maybe I’ll see you guys at cia? it’s a long shot😅. have fun in the kitchen💛💛
I went to the Stock Pot Culinary school in Winston-Salem nc. The chef there was maya angelou and oprah chef. I saved so much money and probably learned more then the CIA while spending less money....
honestly, I plan to join the CIA because I love to cook, I have 1 year of culinary school already completed so I will be able to transfer college credits, but I wanna learn more about the college.
I am not the smartest when it comes to reading books, but I do love cooking and hoping to get accepted to the CIA, is it possible to get into the college even with a low grade because I don't think my GPA is good
Can you make a video of the good things in CIA or the things you like see original there? I'm just curious because i want to study there and thanks for the video to informational
i guess you can have parties, but they would have to be quiet enough so that your neighbors can't hear. aka why i said there are no parties cuz to me a silent "party" is not a party:))
Actually no parties are allowed now! You aren't allowed to have gatherings of more than 10 people. In your rooms, you're only allowed to have your roommates and plus one other person.
Could have talked about your externships, about career services offered at CIA, about career fairs, life after graduation, advantages for such prestigious culinary school, how much to salary to expect after graduating, where you start after graduation, other career paths you can choose other than being in restaurant, cafes, bakeries, or owning your own bakery. theres a lot to talk about. Is the investment really worth it?
hii I completely understand your concern, and I definitely could have talked about more, but I really did want to keep this video on the shorter side! I actually have another CIA video up and its linked in the description! I'll keep your questions in mind, and hopefully soon I will make another video answering more questions!
When did the idea “I go to college only to party” become popular? Isn’t it the point to dive into academics? After college, in the workforce you’re going to have only one month of holidays anyway. And you can’t skip you job! I see this as a trial for the real thing.
I agree with you, but I know many people who don't see regular college that way!! Just trying to inform everyone, not just serious culinary students:))
I am graduate I have the class of 1973 , I went to New Haven Connecticut my first year and my Senior year Hyde Park New York campus doesn’t look the same at all when I was there the building was even done completely but my question is at the egg does the students have to pay for his account in the yearly vans…..
I think people need to work in the BOH for awhile before going to school. Learn why you say yes chef. Respect, patience and confidence is what you need to be a good chef
If you are planning on culinary / baking major, 100% yes. But Hos. management major,, It got recently started (about three years) and it is still kind of mess. But sure it is still worth the money though.
@@jenniferlaleewatching this video kinda gave me PTSD to cus I use to go to the greystone campus at California 😂 and I went to class half asleep at 5:30am just when the food truck delivery would show up and just that made me crave those 10am classes that I use to complain about when I first went to community college back then before I was like “please give me a 9am class” lol
@@jenniferlalee my chef instructor I had then use to yell at everyone over almost anything at like 6am and in my head I’m like “ lady can you atleast wait till it’s like 10am to yell at me so I can remember what you said” lol
I am just wondering since I am applying there soon, how much experience in the industry did you already have before applying? Or, did you not have work experience?
I’m a current student, and I have seen a few fellow students who are wheelchair users. The campus are not completely wheelchair friendly and could use some changes, but it is doable. :) hope this helps
Hi I’m obsessed with your videos even tho I’m a barely a sophomore in high school but I really want to go to culinary school and especially CIA, I wanted to ask you if the academic classes are really hard because I’m not so good at math, I love your videos !😊
NoahCubes technically they’re already part of your tuition, but that’s because during your first semester there is an extra fee (it’s about $1000) that covers your knife kit, chef whites, etc.
Can you give me a list of some of the available majors to choose from? I was always curious how it worked. Do you have to take dessert classes? Thanks for your time
So, I'm a 1984 graduate. I have to say that you come across quite negative. It definitely requires a high level of passion to succeed in the culinary arts field. Hopefully, you have that passion. Would you please add a video that explains why you love being a CIA student?
i will admit at the time my mindset was in a very negative space, and that’s something im definitely still working on:) but the passion is definitely there, always will be!!:)
Okay I have one question what’s the difference between culinary arts and culinary skills? Which one is better for me to start a my chef career as a beginner?thanks
OMG when I graduated in 2002. I wish it was like this! I truly want to go again just to see the difference 😂! And honestly it is like the military! It’s so so stressful! Plus OMG they “ at that time “ employed 77 % of the BEST BEST CHEFS of the world! And when I attended we weren’t even allowed to have different color hair or we got sent home if our hair was out of place and our uniform wasn’t crisply ironed or our shoes didn’t shine…… we got sent home! I swear I would do it all again just to simply see the difference lol! PS SOMEONE SPONSOR ME I WILL DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN JUST TO SEE! We can make millions from the book!😂🤣😂🤣
yes and no. there are definetly some you have to, but some you don't depending on who your instructor is!! if you want, dm me and ill tell you which ones you need specifically:))
Very strict rules. Very strong discipline.. my son moved in this week. I read the notice the school issued on Corona. They are protecting their 'assets' in ways that other colleges are not.
Hello I'm super interested in going to culinary school but at the same time I'm a little nervous. I just want to know you don't have to say anything on it. Just how do you make money while going to school? To be able to pay for classes or even living just wondering on that. Thank you for posting ive only seen a few but thanks
Is there such thing as a bachelors in bakery and pastry? What if I wanted a bachelors degree and still wanted to do all the same baking and pastry class. Is that such a thing?
Is the associate in baking / culinary a useful degree? tho it's just 1 1/2 year compared to a bachelor but what's the major difference between the both? I hope it's not like in associate they don't teach everything and just brush through topics?
an associates degree definitely does not just brush through! You just take less academics, otherwise all the kitchen classes are the same for both! The main difference is that for bachelors you can choose to concentrate in business management or food science along with either being a Culinary or B&P student. So im just doing an associates to advance my baking skills, but I do plan on transferring to a state school after to get a business degree there to save some money!!
This was a good video. Does CIA offer any non-credit, recreational classes? I wouldn't mind taking some classes, but I'm not interested in getting a degree or becoming a professional chef.
Yes they do. I taken a few recreation classes at Hyde Park. You get breakfast and a nice apron to take home. The classes tend to be expensive. If you live in the NY area you might consider the Institute of Culinary Education(ICE) instead at half the price.
yes and no. yes they offer recreational classes but don't expect them to be anywhere near the level that the credited students have to be at. The recreationally classes are more of a holiday trip.
Im from Mexico and im thinking about going to CIA, how much is the tuition? I dont quite understand that about American Colleges Also if I’m a foreign, how can i get the school credits?
The military feeling of it comes from the schools upbringing, the school was founded to help returning vets from WW2 earn culinary degrees
I'm getting out of the Navy soon and have dreamed of going to this school since highschool, I never knew that though :)
That and they use the Bigade system which Escoffier adapted from his time in the French Military.
Facts!👍
The CIA was so much fun! I went because of the structure. The whole thing was a challenge and it was something different everyday. We had parties in the dorms, we went off campus to town or up to Rhinebeck, took the train to the city, drove to New Paltz…there is plenty to do. After attending a regular state school and then going to CIA, I would choose CIA over and over. Plus, they are trying to prepare you for the demands of our business. You can’t just skip work in a restaurant or hotel when you don’t feel like going or else you’ll soon find yourself unemployed. This place used to weed out those that couldn’t hack it, though it has become far less strict in recent years in order to keep up with other chain schools. Still in my opinion, if you’re going to take the plunge and go to a culinary school, treat it like it’s already your career, be serious about it, and go to the best school you can.
hey what degree did you graduate with??
We had parties when I was there just kept them smaller and indescrete nothing ever was said
yeah, you can cook the best food in the world, how the heck you don't have parties
You're the one she must have found super annoying and competitive 😂
**Thankyou for making this video, I added a few things I hope you don't mind. The first few just added to the video, the bulk of my comments are for the current and future CIA students.**
Nobody planning a career in foodservice should complain about long hours. AM pantry for me started at 3am..I graduated in 2000. So far you're pretty accurate. To add to dress code, no facial hair except a mustache...yeah...no piercings, you'll get sent home if your whites are wrinkled. Sanitation is long, boring, dry and absolutely required. If you blow of sanitation, you shouldn't be in a kitchen, ever. The instructors at the CIA are all different. Some are amazing, some aren't, a few are a$$-holes, those are some of your best as well so don't forget it. Take them seriously, if they ask you to do some work outside, SAY YES. many of these Instructors are legends, some are CMC's. Learn everything you can from them. Keep your shoes polished, whites always white, starched and pressed. If you don't know how to iron, youtube before you start classes. Invest in hangers, keep your whites pristine. Invest in kitchen shoes: non slip sole, the must be comfortable at hour 1 and hour 12+. If they hurt, get new shoes and dont go cheap. Your future self thanks you. The brewpub up route 9 is a wonderful place and their cheddar cheese soup is legendary, I hope they are still in business. One of our greatest presidents lived in Hyde Park, go visit him, of course the one and only...FDR. There was a drive in on the right side wed drive a pickup truck and our kitchen chairs to see a double feature. If we drank too much we were a stones through from our crappy apartment. There are parties but off campus. There's some sh***y clubs in Poughkeepsie, I wouldn't recommend. New Paltz across the river was a cool place to go out. Cabaloosa if it's still there will likely still have Grateful Dead night. The acceptance rate is WAY too high, my generation had to have actual experience on foodservice, letters of recommendation from your past chefs etc. That slowly went away and you see how it affects graduation rate. It's expensive yes. If you go and f**k off, good job, you wasted a ton of money. If you work hard, grab as much information as you possibly can while you're there, it goes quick but you'll graduate with some actual skills.
**Most Important** After you graduate, don't think for a second that you are a chef. Don't have an attitude because you "went to the CIA you're better than XYZ." You're not better than anyone anywhere. CIA grads and even externs go out with an attitude sometimes, not all of course but enough to warrant a comment from me. Drop it. It will only do harm, so if you think you may have a little ego, drop it immediately. When you earn 3 stars from Michelin, then we'll talk about a little bit of ego, until then, you are pond scum! Remember, there are dishwashers, who will do your job faster, better and cheaper than you so don't give someone reason to not like you. And ALWAYS take care of your dishwashers. Before service, make sure they eat, even if you don't have time, drop off pitchers of the soft drinks they like. Beers after work even better. Offer your cigarettes, when A Toilet explodes the most horrifying substance you've ever seen, they will be the ones going to battle, but if you're a d**che-bag, you might be going in there in their place... Not saying kiss anyone's a$s, but they were the lowest on the totem poll but now you are. If dishwashers don't like you, trust me they will be in someone's ear and you will go before they do. Just Remember this... You Are NOT A CHEF. Aspiring Culinarian? Ok, sure, but Chef? NO WAY. That's a title you need to earn and not a school on Earth can grant that title. The title of "Chef" is earned in the field. Putting your time in the trenches until you one day command a brigade of your own. Until that day, don't ever call yourself a chef. You are NOT A CHEF. You are a cook, which is a noble term, if you want to be a chef, you're going to have to earn it. A CIA diploma doesn't mean sh**. Your resume...doesn't mean sh**. You can bs your way through school and resumes quite easily. The only thing that matters is "Can you cook in a commercial kitchen?" That's it. A wiseman once said "Don't Sing it, Bring it". Don't tell me how great you are, let greatness speak for itself and you just keep your mouth shut. Good luck.
That's actually a fairly high graduation rate. Most universities are trying to push 70%!
I feel that time management is a huge part to attending this school. After 14 years in the Marine Corps, I will be attending this school and it sound just like my school haha. No parties just learning. All I need. Thank you for sharing. Helped out!
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Thankyou for your service. Did you begin at the culinary? Saw this comment and wanted to see how things were going
I feel the same way, after 6 years of the Navy. Now that I've got some insight of of this school I'm all for it now!
Thank you sooooo much. I've been having a hard time finding testimonials from baking and pastry students. I start in the fall at greystone and would love to see a part 2 with more info on the program itself and your personal experiences. Maybe you could share what the workload is like or what your favorite/least favorite classes are like? Thank you so much for any additional info!
Jasmine Murguia you are very welcome, and maybe I’ll film a part two soon!
Great video! It brought back many memories.
Back when I first applied in 1984, there was a 2 year wait after you were approved, I started in Fall 1986. Back then there was only 1 degree you could get, A.O.S. Also, that seems like a lot of dropouts, I only knew of a handful people that quit or failed out, only 3 (that I remember) from my group of 72.
Also you would get sent home if your uniform was incomplete, dirty or if you weren't clean shaven. And any chef passing you in the hall could make you go and change or shave but you had to come back to finish the class.
Parties were allowed back then but you would have to be wary of the people in your dorm that had to be up at 3 a.m. for pantry class. And we would bring kegs down by the RR tracks, also we had a bar on campus, so I guess those were the good old days.
Is Lake Veloute still there? I haven't been back to campus since probably before you were born in maybe, 1999 or 2000.
Aye I'm starting in the fall for baking and pastry arts. I'm glad this was recommended to me. A lot of the teachers I talk to dont really dig into details.
aww glad this helped!!
Hi ! I start in the Fall for Baking and pastry as well :)!
I start in the fall for baking and pastry arts too :)
@@TheNickduenas i start in a week so maybe we will see each other.
The CIA is showing you what the real culinary world looks like. 4 am getting ready for breakfast, 8 - 10 hour day. Loved the Am shift.
Best choice I ever made. Yes chef, no chef. You need to shut your mouth listen and absorb it all. Class of Oct 97.
yes!! exactly and that's what i love about the school!! wasn't trying to sound rude in the video at all, just trying to get my point across to people that don't know:)
This video was super helpful and entertaining (that sneeze haha)! Videos like these are very much needed, because the CIA itself will (understandably) only post videos that show off all the great things about their school, and skip over the rough stuff. I've always wondered about the "one-upping" thing, because I know people come into the school with different levels of experience and different backgrounds and different ways of doing things. Oh and thanks for clarifying the dress code rules. With any luck, I'll soon be attending the Hyde Park NY branch for a Bachelors in Baking and Pastry Management :).
Good video. I'm heading to Hyde Park this Fall and this type of info is good to know. Thanks!
Im just a sophmore in highschool but im seriously looking forward to try and go to CIA i want to start my own business still havent really decided if its going to be a bakery or a restaurant right now im just testing my skills to see which one of the two im better at 😂 i enjoy both so much. Im going to have to work hard to reach my goals!
Ohh that's cool, I'm still in the second year of high school, and I'm thinking a lot about doing Culinary arts, then doing pastry at Cia and I needed someone to explain to me how the day to day really is😇😇😇
That is what a true art school is like. Hard discipline. You show up for class and do the assignments. You take the harsh critique of your work from fellows students who rip you apart. (You do the same when it’s your turn.)
The art teachers would say: ‘your clients will never be as harsh. Use the critique to learn and to improve. Always continue to learn. Art is organic. It grows and changes.’
You cut classes. You do not do the work. You never try to improve. Choose another field.
I went to Institut Paul Bocuse and it sounds exactly the same, but we definitely partied when we could, and the academic side was fucking hard. You were also expected to rent your own place. Got through 2 years and 1 internship but didn't make it in the end - I didn't do well on the theory side of things and I just underperformed so they kicked me out. I thought it was harsh them not giving me a second chance but shit happens. I've been working in restaurants since, but I haven't got a degree - hasn't stopped me from finding work in kitchens but I think I still want a degree you know. Hope your experience is better but it must be hard with Covid. Great video! Good luck!
I graduated last year. It was a lot of hard work. I got into a lot of fights with the chefs and other people. But in other words, do your best.
Wtf were you doing fighting with your instructors bad idea😂
@@cadenrenner1429 well they didn't get it through their thick heads. I defended myself. Half of the chefs, they aren't really chefs, they are instructors. It's sad really.
Gordon Ramsay fighting
Yikes is it that bad
Ok so, lately I have been seeing some more pretty shitty reviews about CIA and their staff and other students from students and it’s making me second guess going there. Is it worth it honestly like all that money…Bc I know there’s some other culinary school in NY but just wondering
Now you're making me rethink whether I should go in the fall-
oh noo, really was just trying to help. sorry if I was talking in a negative tone, honestly was just tired. but my other CIA videos give some more info that could help maybe!!
Thank you for sharing!! I just hope when I go that I don't have a Gordon Ramsey type of professor lol
2004 bachelor Culinary alumni here, when I was there AM pantry started at 2 am. You mentioned there is no summer vacations, but you forgot to mention no spring vacation and once in a while there are Saturday classes. When you mentioned people being stuck up I think you were more so looking for that that everyone is egotistical, which is very true. Really the number of overblown egos there is the reason why I left New York State after graduation.
we actually get a week off for spring break now!!:)
@@jenniferlalee wow they are spoiling you now. lol jk
I wish I could say I had a great time at the CIA but from start to finish I didn’t. I dropped out of after one year- I didn’t even see the inside of a kitchen. The idea that I who had been there for a year had less priority on classes than someone who had just arrived makes no sense and still baffles me. My academic advisor doesn’t respond to any emails by me. That’s just scratching the surface; I have so many horror stories. I really wanted to love it but, the CIA lives off a name purely.
thank you so much I'm a freshman in high school and Ive been debating between CIA and ICE to go to for future schooling you are the person that has shared the best info so far (that I've found) this helps so much :)
hey i am deciding between the two as well. Did you end up going to either of them? If so which one and why that one opposed to the other one? Lastly, do you regret it?
Shocking well I need go there for my bachelor degree
Hey jen r u going be there still
yup, only in my second semester!!
As a grad from 12 yrs ago things have really changed lol hope u make it all the way thru... Most people don't end up comeing back from extern... Half my class did not show up to. Finish
Nice video! The points you made are so true! Especially with the professionalism! I think you and I enrolled the same time (September 2019?) I’m in the Culinary Arts program for Food Business Management. I also see the point about one-upping people... a lot of competition...
ahh we did!! I don’t think we’ve met yet, but when we’re back on campus we totally should:))
Jennifer Lee Definitely! (Whenever we go back to campus...)
Are you guys in campus?
I’m going to the NY Hyde park campus this fall for Associates degree Culinary arts I’m so excited
Aminata Kebe yeah that’s what I did
i’m 15 and cia is my dream school. i’ve been baking/cooking since i was 6 so i’m decently experienced and know a little about food. do i have to have certain knife skills or whatever before we go there or are there specific things i could work on now so i’m better prepared?
Elena and Megan hi! I’m 13, also want to go to cia😊 I assume you should have some knife skills but if you’re super into cooking and baking like me you’ve probably learned knife skills countless times. I know I’ve done knife skills like 30 times😅. yeah I guess you should prob just have experience but idk. I also am a super young 8th grader so I don’t turn 18 until I’m in college so I might have to get like an internship cuz I can’t get a job with my age before college. I think what’s best is just to cook and bake often and enjoy being in the kitchen, and immerse yourself in cultures and foods. maybe I’ll see you guys at cia? it’s a long shot😅. have fun in the kitchen💛💛
I think it requires 6 months experience in front of house or back of house
You learn that in culinary fundimentals
heyyy, not to be nosy but are you in 10th?
@@madhusudanghosh1181 Not anymore that was a thing a while back
Do you get to eat the meals you make? It doesn’t go to waste right?
Great video, not much has changed lol. Although I see that the trailers are no longer there. Those were the “cottages” of our day back then 😂
I went to the Stock Pot Culinary school in Winston-Salem nc. The chef there was maya angelou and oprah chef. I saved so much money and probably learned more then the CIA while spending less money....
I'm going there in the fall.... thanks for scaring me more :) but i also thank you for warning me
No parties?! You mean you have to find something else to do instead of getting crunk'd? Oh my!
I go there too and all you said was correct😂 almost graduating culsi bachelor’s ✌🏽
ahhh yay congrats!! wish we coulda meet:)
Can you explain the summer semester more?
Like are we on campus for the semester?
Does it cost the same as the other semesters?
Is it required?
gohan squad yup its required, and it is the same as any other semester, but just during the summer!
You go to school in blocks. They have various entry dates.
honestly, I plan to join the CIA because I love to cook, I have 1 year of culinary school already completed so I will be able to transfer college credits, but I wanna learn more about the college.
Go to their site
I am not the smartest when it comes to reading books, but I do love cooking and hoping to get accepted to the CIA, is it possible to get into the college even with a low grade because I don't think my GPA is good
Can you make a video of the good things in CIA or the things you like see original there? I'm just curious because i want to study there and thanks for the video to informational
I'm an incoming freshman and this was so helpful! thank you!!!!
When you say "No parties," does that mean no one, but your roomates in your room, or just crazy parties."
i guess you can have parties, but they would have to be quiet enough so that your neighbors can't hear. aka why i said there are no parties cuz to me a silent "party" is not a party:))
Actually no parties are allowed now! You aren't allowed to have gatherings of more than 10 people. In your rooms, you're only allowed to have your roommates and plus one other person.
Could you have guests?
we had a blast, did our work and partied hard at Gafney's
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Can you do a part two of the meals and baked goods you’re proud of making?
There are no "breaks" in the workforce. You might get two weeks of vacation if you're lucky...
Thank you for your video, I am trying to understand what you're saying - from Korea..!!!
It's like gordon ramsay screaming at you. Picture that. Yes chef! Boot camp.
I'm guessing idk.
I'm going to there this fall
Me too, what campus are you going to?
@@SarahBarah the one in New York you?
@@jayanecetoute5564 same campus!
Lit😊😃 maybe I'll see you there
@@SarahBarah what dorm are you going to be getting
Could have talked about your externships, about career services offered at CIA, about career fairs, life after graduation, advantages for such prestigious culinary school, how much to salary to expect after graduating, where you start after graduation, other career paths you can choose other than being in restaurant, cafes, bakeries, or owning your own bakery. theres a lot to talk about. Is the investment really worth it?
hii I completely understand your concern, and I definitely could have talked about more, but I really did want to keep this video on the shorter side! I actually have another CIA video up and its linked in the description! I'll keep your questions in mind, and hopefully soon I will make another video answering more questions!
When did the idea “I go to college only to party” become popular? Isn’t it the point to dive into academics?
After college, in the workforce you’re going to have only one month of holidays anyway. And you can’t skip you job! I see this as a trial for the real thing.
I agree with you, but I know many people who don't see regular college that way!! Just trying to inform everyone, not just serious culinary students:))
thanks for good info! will attend next may. need to prepare a lot to go there from Korea:>
I am graduate I have the class of 1973 , I went to New Haven Connecticut my first year and my Senior year Hyde Park New York campus doesn’t look the same at all when I was there the building was even done completely but my question is at the egg does the students have to pay for his account in the yearly vans…..
It's like working in a real professional kitchen, or at least like they used to be.
I had to get up at 6 am for 10 years of my life for a class starting at 8 40 am
who’s going to grey stone for baking and pastry? hmu 😳
i’m going for culinary in the fall
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DRESS CODE CLARIFICATION- i read the dress code and was like business casual pajamas??????
hahaha me
Went to military school, currently in military, seems like a good fit for me lmao
I think people need to work in the BOH for awhile before going to school. Learn why you say yes chef. Respect, patience and confidence is what you need to be a good chef
Exactly. And the long class hours with no free time is to prepare you for the life of a chef or running a restaurant
I just applied for fall of 2021 , and also applied to Johnson and Wales I hope I get accepted
UpdAte got accepted
Aminata Kebe thanks
U will they except everyone now
@@CCCC-tq8yo yeah but not everyone graduates , high acceptance low graduation , this industry isn’t for everyone
@@alex5k3aj81 ya grad of 2005
When i have to send my application if i want to go to CIA after finishing high school on august 2021?
that changes every year, so i would check the CIA website, contact CIA, or ask your school!
So you do get a summer break it’s just shorter
Is this a good idea to learn how to cook and then maybe possibly opening up a restaurant later on?
That’s exactly what I’m doing
so would you recommend this as a place to go to?? I want to study hospitality management
dems definitely, it’s a great school!! Especially if you want to be in more of the food side of hospitality
If you are planning on culinary / baking major, 100% yes. But Hos. management major,, It got recently started (about three years) and it is still kind of mess. But sure it is still worth the money though.
12am apple pie breads class brutal class!
Must husband starts soon, can you give an example of the typical hours of your schedule?
Thanks this video was really helpfulI. Is on campus housing included in tuition? If not, how much is it to stay on campus?
It is not included, and I think it’s around $3,000-$4,000 per semester!
I live in England and this sounds amazing
Masochist.
@@emanandchill ??
This was super informative! Thanks!
:)
@@jenniferlaleewatching this video kinda gave me PTSD to cus I use to go to the greystone campus at California 😂 and I went to class half asleep at 5:30am just when the food truck delivery would show up and just that made me crave those 10am classes that I use to complain about when I first went to community college back then before I was like “please give me a 9am class” lol
@@jenniferlalee my chef instructor I had then use to yell at everyone over almost anything at like 6am and in my head I’m like “ lady can you atleast wait till it’s like 10am to yell at me so I can remember what you said” lol
I am just wondering since I am applying there soon, how much experience in the industry did you already have before applying? Or, did you not have work experience?
I am a part time wheelchair user looking into culinary schools. have you ever seen a student using a wheelchair?
I’m a current student, and I have seen a few fellow students who are wheelchair users. The campus are not completely wheelchair friendly and could use some changes, but it is doable. :) hope this helps
Hi I’m obsessed with your videos even tho I’m a barely a sophomore in high school but I really want to go to culinary school and especially CIA, I wanted to ask you if the academic classes are really hard because I’m not so good at math, I love your videos !😊
personally the academic classes are not hard at all for me, but everyone is different!
@@jenniferlalee ahh ok thank you so much for replying, I love you videos !!
Yikes i talk back- lowkey scared to go here no cap
Thanks, I have a question. Do you have to pay for your knives or do you already get those in tuition?
NoahCubes technically they’re already part of your tuition, but that’s because during your first semester there is an extra fee (it’s about $1000) that covers your knife kit, chef whites, etc.
Can you give me a list of some of the available majors to choose from? I was always curious how it worked. Do you have to take dessert classes? Thanks for your time
Ur so right... I’m working there rn and it’s a very nice sch but a lot of rules... tbh I’m loving this job...
I would love such long classes of cooking
what is the cost of the entire 1 1/2 year program and the 3 year program?
I don't know the exact numbers, but it states it all very clearly on their website!!
Did you pursue it because you already baked / cooked and wanted to get better at it? Or you wanted to try it out as a career?
is it necessary to use alcohol? (my religion prohibits it)
So, I'm a 1984 graduate. I have to say that you come across quite negative. It definitely requires a high level of passion to succeed in the culinary arts field. Hopefully, you have that passion. Would you please add a video that explains why you love being a CIA student?
i will admit at the time my mindset was in a very negative space, and that’s something im definitely still working on:) but the passion is definitely there, always will be!!:)
this is a stupid question but do you get tested for thc often
yes I need this answered lolllll
Wow. Just wow. How old are you???? 🤣🤣🤣
@@gilbertthegreat13 Gilbert, I am now 18 with no interest in culinary arts anymore.
You mean you actually have to work hard? How uncool for these poor young people.
Don't go to culinary school - just watch RUclips and learn hands on in the industry.
honestly hahahha
6am? Wait til breakfast class. Great vid tho! Be lucky!
Idk if I would survive there man! Food is life 👀 btw what do they do with the foodsss😂👏
Okay I have one question what’s the difference between culinary arts and culinary skills? Which one is better for me to start a my chef career as a beginner?thanks
OMG when I graduated in 2002. I wish it was like this! I truly want to go again just to see the difference 😂! And honestly it is like the military! It’s so so stressful! Plus OMG they “ at that time “ employed 77 % of the BEST BEST CHEFS of the world! And when I attended we weren’t even allowed to have different color hair or we got sent home if our hair was out of place and our uniform wasn’t crisply ironed or our shoes didn’t shine…… we got sent home! I swear I would do it all again just to simply see the difference lol!
PS SOMEONE SPONSOR ME I WILL DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN JUST TO SEE! We can make millions from the book!😂🤣😂🤣
ditto on that. when you say graduated from which program are you referring? Associates? bachelor? baking and pastry? culinary?
Still can’t have color hair
Do they have the option of not touching or cutting beef and pork for Indians?
They are asking me to purchase multiple textbooks, do I really need to buy them for my classes?
yes and no. there are definetly some you have to, but some you don't depending on who your instructor is!! if you want, dm me and ill tell you which ones you need specifically:))
How’s the quarantine situation handled on campus?
Very strict rules. Very strong discipline.. my son moved in this week. I read the notice the school issued on Corona. They are protecting their 'assets' in ways that other colleges are not.
Just move in about a week ago, extremely strict. You get caught without a mask, you’ll be doing community service with all your free time.
Hello I'm super interested in going to culinary school but at the same time I'm a little nervous. I just want to know you don't have to say anything on it. Just how do you make money while going to school? To be able to pay for classes or even living just wondering on that. Thank you for posting ive only seen a few but thanks
Is there such thing as a bachelors in bakery and pastry? What if I wanted a bachelors degree and still wanted to do all the same baking and pastry class. Is that such a thing?
There is!
I needed thins info I’m heading up there I’m fall of 2021
Same 🤝💯
Sameee
Same
Same what major?
@@adriannabolden9899 food business management
Maybe someone should complete their undergraduate degree first, and do this as sort of grad school?
Just sayin the graduation rate is not that low considering the percent of acceptances.
Hey
Can u please tell me how many semesters are there in business management in food
And is it two years or 3
lol all Im hearing is, "welcome to the industry", no breaks, long hours, people are competitive....
Is the associate in baking / culinary a useful degree? tho it's just 1 1/2 year compared to a bachelor but what's the major difference between the both? I hope it's not like in associate they don't teach everything and just brush through topics?
an associates degree definitely does not just brush through! You just take less academics, otherwise all the kitchen classes are the same for both! The main difference is that for bachelors you can choose to concentrate in business management or food science along with either being a Culinary or B&P student. So im just doing an associates to advance my baking skills, but I do plan on transferring to a state school after to get a business degree there to save some money!!
This was a good video. Does CIA offer any non-credit, recreational classes? I wouldn't mind taking some classes, but I'm not interested in getting a degree or becoming a professional chef.
unfortunately I don’t think they do:(
Yes they do. I taken a few recreation classes at Hyde Park. You get breakfast and a nice apron to take home. The classes tend to be expensive. If you live in the NY area you might consider the Institute of Culinary Education(ICE) instead at half the price.
yes and no. yes they offer recreational classes but don't expect them to be anywhere near the level that the credited students have to be at. The recreationally classes are more of a holiday trip.
Im from Mexico and im thinking about going to CIA, how much is the tuition? I dont quite understand that about American Colleges
Also if I’m a foreign, how can i get the school credits?
Do u think there having the journey for juniors in the fall, or do we just have to go visit it ourselves
i honestly have no idea:( im sorry, wish I could help more!
is there a mass amount of work outside of class?
it really depends on your chefs and professors!! cuz I never got a lot, but my roommate got a ton
Do they offer scholarship or any financial aid for international students?
Hi, is it really difficult to work if you never had non-veg?
I think working with meat is different for everyone, but at least for dining there are always veg and vegan options at the egg!!