Having symbol tattoos and runic clothes still seem like a valid and useful method even in the modern era. If a summoner gets separated from their tomes, got a backup on hand as a precaution.
You're absolutely right. It wouldn't be a bad backup at all. But against someone who has dozens of pages of incantations you'd run out of tricks before they did.
I am a huge lore junkie and I used to play wow. Summoner is one of my favourite jobs I've played and learning the lore behind it is amazing. Keep it up! Excellent video!
A very good video ! as an old SMN main, it's nice to have an easy place to recap some of the lore- or even some bits I may have missed. With the reworks coming in Endwalker, it'll be interesting to see how much of this remains accurate! I know the dev team have stated even the job quests are going to be reworked, so I'm sure you'll have some work cut out for you. Thanks again for all your work making this series for us ! Your love for this game really shines through in every single one.
I will admit im late watching this video but hey sunmoner is cool. Though i will admit the process of a grimoire filled with runes and array holds a lot of ultility than i thought. Just imagine that the Wol take a page from Alisaie and G'raha book and use the girmoire to channel aetherpool weapons. Each weapon a single page to represent another job the Wol knows. Helps with equipment cost, travel cost and hey definitely aurprise somebody.
I was debating soul crystals in reddit a while ago, and I was told that while they are only for recording and bestowing memories, the summoner soul crystal is a more strict requirement for the job because the egis are stored inside of it Yeah, I don't think that's how it works
Summoner is my favourite casting class so far and the one I'm most comfortable using. Having started as an arcanist, I'm utterly bias but it's so good. This video highlights a lot of why I enjoy it too.
I only discovered your channel today (well, yesterday now technically) but I’m really enjoying your lore videos. Summoner is of particular interest to me as it’s been my main or secondary job since Heavensward and I’m incredibly excited by the rework coming in Endwalker.
@@SynodicScribe summarizing the class/hob quest storylines in ARR would be really helpful because it doesn't have quite the impact after you've cleared MSQ to have context of the world.
@@SynodicScribe it may be worth considering as the motive and process for a primal opting for tempering and how it happens was clarified further, and some parts retconned.
Of course! I plan on covering all the jobs in time. So far I'm going in order that they appeared in Eorzean History. But everyone single one of them will get all the care and details they need!
It would be interesting if we would be able to choose the order we summon phoenix/bahamut/L-Bahamut in a future expansion as proof of our growing control over aether (similar to PvP lb or something)
That's entirely reliant on the Primals they defeated (and created an Egi/Trance/etc. out of). But in terms of raw destructive power, they're still second to Mhach's Black Mages.
I have to say the potential explanation for the horn is plausible, but looking at the thing is always going to be perceived silly by a lot of people to put it mildly.
Excellent lore recap, but you forgot two details: 1) In order to first manifest an Egi, a Summoner must perform a ritual called an "Austerity" in a location elementally compatible with the Primal they want to create an Egi out of (after being imbued with their residual essence, of course). Then, the Summoner must defeat it in order to "tame" it. 2) Trance is an alternate form of summoning, relying on using a Primal's essence directly onto one self (instead of using it to create a separate construct). "Demi-summons" are basically extensions of their respective Trances (Dreadwyrm Trance -> Demi-Bahamut and Firebird Trance -> Demi-Phoenix).
@@GayLPer I'm pretty sure I did _not_ hear them mentioning the "Austerity" ritual by name (let alone having to perform it in an elementally-compatible location). Do you have a timestamp for it?
Glad you improved your sound quality down the line. This was nearly a whisper to me. Considering the big gameplay changes made in Endwalker, do you think you'll remake any of these older videos?
Nothing in this video contradicts summoners as they are now - they are still wielding the same type of magic, they're just using it somewhat differently
@@SynodicScribe ima need ur help tonight or whenever. Ima be makin a theoretically lore video as a live stream event to kinda talk about a possible future for endwalker and beyond. And it was ur lore videos that gave me this idea. I just want u to listen and then tell me by lores standard is it possible. Do u have a facebook page or someway for me to send the link to you?
They kinda explained in the job quests that a person's aetheric body can only hold so much extra aether and thus we are limited to what we can summon. It's why we moved to bahamut. Ymithra believes that at our current point its quality primals not quantity primals now. I've not seen the lore reason why we have Phoenix but it's why we moved to bahamut instead of shiva, Levi, rah, odin ect
So, if the Allagans had summoners, and we have summoners now, does that mean that we don’t need the Echo to survive a Primal? I’m asking for role playing purposes!
Interesting, I co-main Summoner for solo content, though we’ll see how it goes after Endwalker. I use Scholar for group content as I really enjoy healing. I’m also a White Mage, yup I like healing. But relearning the lore is fun.
I really have to say this but its most certainly pronounced E-JEYE and not EGGY. You make amazing videos and I love your channel I just couldn't help myself.
The summoner headpiece is actually the stick these Allagan heroes used to beat women away with. You can't save the empire if you're waste deep in batcaves all day, you see.
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Having symbol tattoos and runic clothes still seem like a valid and useful method even in the modern era. If a summoner gets separated from their tomes, got a backup on hand as a precaution.
You're absolutely right. It wouldn't be a bad backup at all. But against someone who has dozens of pages of incantations you'd run out of tricks before they did.
@@SynodicScribe Which is why it would primarily serve as a distraction to acquire your tome back or run away.
I’ve got to admit tattoing the best spells/summons, or weaving it into clothes does indeed seem like a good backup should one lose the book in battle.
@@SynodicScribe just write REALLY little!
I have SMN-themed tattoos in real life, and I can confirm this works. ;)
This channel is going to be huge. I've been waiting for so long for someone to cover FFXIV lore! Keep up the good work! Subbed!
Tell your friends! I plan on covering as much as I can!
This is exactly how I feel!! Also subbed!!
I am a huge lore junkie and I used to play wow. Summoner is one of my favourite jobs I've played and learning the lore behind it is amazing. Keep it up! Excellent video!
Thank you so much and welcome! I hope you love FFXIV as much as you enjoyed WoW!
Summoner is a cool job to start this series with. It is the oldest known job in the setting, as you said. But I also just find it to be really unique.
This is exactly the video i was looking for to explain how summoner works in the lore, very well done!
Happy to be of help! Spread the word, I plan on covering all I can!
A very good video ! as an old SMN main, it's nice to have an easy place to recap some of the lore- or even some bits I may have missed.
With the reworks coming in Endwalker, it'll be interesting to see how much of this remains accurate! I know the dev team have stated even the job quests are going to be reworked, so I'm sure you'll have some work cut out for you.
Thanks again for all your work making this series for us ! Your love for this game really shines through in every single one.
If anything, its even more accurate then ever before
Criminally underrated. Keep up the good work!
I will admit im late watching this video but hey sunmoner is cool.
Though i will admit the process of a grimoire filled with runes and array holds a lot of ultility than i thought. Just imagine that the Wol take a page from Alisaie and G'raha book and use the girmoire to channel aetherpool weapons. Each weapon a single page to represent another job the Wol knows. Helps with equipment cost, travel cost and hey definitely aurprise somebody.
I was debating soul crystals in reddit a while ago, and I was told that while they are only for recording and bestowing memories, the summoner soul crystal is a more strict requirement for the job because the egis are stored inside of it
Yeah, I don't think that's how it works
Beating pyromancer at his make believe lore love, keep it up! Been playing since 1.0 but always excited to rehear the lore from your perspective
Pyromancer is a fraud.
Or at the very least, he's nowhere near as good at lore as he claims to be.
Summoner is my favourite casting class so far and the one I'm most comfortable using. Having started as an arcanist, I'm utterly bias but it's so good.
This video highlights a lot of why I enjoy it too.
More of this, please, this type of video is what got me to subscribe can't wait to see more
I only discovered your channel today (well, yesterday now technically) but I’m really enjoying your lore videos. Summoner is of particular interest to me as it’s been my main or secondary job since Heavensward and I’m incredibly excited by the rework coming in Endwalker.
I adore your channel - instant subscribe!
Really hoping you blow up and end up the “Byf” to XIV as he is to the Destiny franchise.
I get the feeling Larryzaur would appreciate this lecture.
I tried to share with other FFXIV youtubers, no response yet. lol
A lore dedicated channel. How nice is that. Greetings from another content creator.
Thank you! It might not be much but I enjoy bringing what I can to the surface for everyone.
Aye we summoners thought ourselves as GODS. lol
I'm new to final fantasy as a franchise these videos are a big help with understanding the world
Glad you like them! Lemme know if there's anything newer players would like to have elaborated.
@@SynodicScribe summarizing the class/hob quest storylines in ARR would be really helpful because it doesn't have quite the impact after you've cleared MSQ to have context of the world.
Summoner has always been an interesting FF class. FF8 for example.
Amazing lore video!
Thank you very much ^^
I thought Dark Knight seemed pretty cool but this honestly seems like the kind of class I'd really enjoy playing!
Go for it!
itll also level scholar for you while you play it.
...as a SMN main, DRK is my second favourite job, highly recommend both!
this is going to need to be updated when endwalker comes out
Yes and no. The concept is still the same, only the execution has been tweaked.
@@SynodicScribe it may be worth considering as the motive and process for a primal opting for tempering and how it happens was clarified further, and some parts retconned.
Just what I have been looking for
Happy to help ^^
Excellent job I hope this channel blows up! Also, will you cover more jobs? Looking forward to machinist dragoon and samurai the most!
Of course! I plan on covering all the jobs in time. So far I'm going in order that they appeared in Eorzean History. But everyone single one of them will get all the care and details they need!
I love this, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you like the other stuff I put together for you and everyone as well!
Ooooh finally RUclips recommends me something I want to see!
my kingdom for alt primal glamours for egis
It would be interesting if we would be able to choose the order we summon phoenix/bahamut/L-Bahamut in a future expansion as proof of our growing control over aether (similar to PvP lb or something)
Underrated channel. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
I didn't expect sumonners where that op in the lore
That's entirely reliant on the Primals they defeated (and created an Egi/Trance/etc. out of).
But in terms of raw destructive power, they're still second to Mhach's Black Mages.
@@elinfini true, but knowing all the primals we have faught, imagine having the power of Shinryuu or King Thordan
Not too long ago I got the crystal to become a summoner
How're you liking the job?
I have to say the potential explanation for the horn is plausible, but looking at the thing is always going to be perceived silly by a lot of people to put it mildly.
Summoner's Grimoire
FF14 needs more lore channels
Any chance we're going to get a series on the guilds of Hydaelyn?
I'm specifically wondering about the arcanist
Excellent lore recap, but you forgot two details:
1) In order to first manifest an Egi, a Summoner must perform a ritual called an "Austerity" in a location elementally compatible with the Primal they want to create an Egi out of (after being imbued with their residual essence, of course).
Then, the Summoner must defeat it in order to "tame" it.
2) Trance is an alternate form of summoning, relying on using a Primal's essence directly onto one self (instead of using it to create a separate construct).
"Demi-summons" are basically extensions of their respective Trances (Dreadwyrm Trance -> Demi-Bahamut and Firebird Trance -> Demi-Phoenix).
These were both mentioned in the video
@@GayLPer
I'm pretty sure I did _not_ hear them mentioning the "Austerity" ritual by name (let alone having to perform it in an elementally-compatible location).
Do you have a timestamp for it?
Is this video also going to get pulled and updated given the new lore on primals we got in Endwalker?
Summoner lore is pretty much the same still. What happened in Endwalker didn't change what happened in the Third Astral Era.
Glad you improved your sound quality down the line. This was nearly a whisper to me.
Considering the big gameplay changes made in Endwalker, do you think you'll remake any of these older videos?
Nothing in this video contradicts summoners as they are now - they are still wielding the same type of magic, they're just using it somewhat differently
By this logic i want a tsukiyomi demi/egi.
It's technically possible if the primal's aether was dense enough to partake of.
@@SynodicScribe ima need ur help tonight or whenever. Ima be makin a theoretically lore video as a live stream event to kinda talk about a possible future for endwalker and beyond. And it was ur lore videos that gave me this idea. I just want u to listen and then tell me by lores standard is it possible. Do u have a facebook page or someway for me to send the link to you?
@@Yun_Kurayami No facebook, but I have my channel discord and twitter! Sounds like fun, I love discussing lore with people.
So that's why there are no Shiva, Ramuh and Leviathan Egis?
They kinda explained in the job quests that a person's aetheric body can only hold so much extra aether and thus we are limited to what we can summon.
It's why we moved to bahamut.
Ymithra believes that at our current point its quality primals not quantity primals now.
I've not seen the lore reason why we have Phoenix but it's why we moved to bahamut instead of shiva, Levi, rah, odin ect
@@nervnerd Phoenix's aether was intertwined with Bahamut's. Our time in the First may have taught us to discern the difference
I feel like the summoner is very much influenced by the D&D sort of Necromancer or the WoW Warlock.
how so? ff3 was the first use of summoner
You could read the phonebook to me and I’d still be interested
You don't say. *goes to find a phone book*
@@SynodicScribe hahaha
So, if the Allagans had summoners, and we have summoners now, does that mean that we don’t need the Echo to survive a Primal? I’m asking for role playing purposes!
Interesting, I co-main Summoner for solo content, though we’ll see how it goes after Endwalker.
I use Scholar for group content as I really enjoy healing. I’m also a White Mage, yup I like healing.
But relearning the lore is fun.
Should go great. Even without knowing final potencies. It seems like current summoner but minus the filler phases of dots and ruin spam.
Now for a whole video about the summoner Dong.
I really have to say this but its most certainly pronounced E-JEYE and not EGGY. You make amazing videos and I love your channel I just couldn't help myself.
The summoner headpiece is actually the stick these Allagan heroes used to beat women away with. You can't save the empire if you're waste deep in batcaves all day, you see.
I have never liked that horn they wear. Still don't.
Don't call it a lesson.
Please, there's enough of that floating around out there.
But why am I able to use the book in the rain?
Cause it magical!
As an omnicrafter, those are no ordinary books.